Bad Traders


Bad Traders

Xeonite Canada BTRs29-Mar-2001
Status: active
Aliases: Xenonite
Email: removed
Address: 10-8716 Walnut Grove Drive, Langley BC, V1M 2K2, Canada
Reporter: CrOnO

probably the biggest liar and scam at UGTZ....i sent to this guy in January..still no package from his till this day, which is March 29, 2001....almost 3 full months now....he said that it got stuck in customs..then he said he sent another one out...yea right...here it all is people :

Fist i complained it didnt arrive after 2 months-


"This is getting unbelievable man. I am tracking it with Canada Post right
now. they told me it got held up at Customs and it should be on it's way. If
it doesn't reach you by Monday I will start harassing them again.
Sorry about all of this. It really sucks."
Robert

~

then i complained again..and here is what i got:


"Hey, listen man. I'm not the fudging post office alright! All I can do is listen to their half assed answers and pass them on to you. That's all I have! What the hell you want me to lie and say some crap about how it is being held up because of a bomb scare and it will be there in a few more days!?
I can't give you any "solid answers" because they haven't given me any. I am an excellent trader and my track record speaks for itself. I understand it sucks to wait but quite frankly you can take your questions about my credibility and shove them up your ass. I'm doing all I can man. Stop being an ass. I have been honest and up front with you on everything this far. if I was trying to rip you off I would have just told you your crap never showed. And I sure as hell would not have continued to keep you informed as to the state of our trade.

I have had packages held up for weeks and once I had my package in customs for a month and a half! It sucked ass but I never started being a fudging jerk and pointing fingers at the person I was trading with. Don't even bother emailing me again with your accusations without any basis of fact. You have no reason to believe I am a scammer trying to "take you" on this swap. I will not tolerate that crap again.

I am working with on this the best I can. You have to understand how hard it is to track a package, across country, without a tracking number. Why don't you start checking with your local postal outlet and see if they have anything in their system with your name on it? It might help me out a little here. Unless of coarse you would rather impede my ability to help you with this and just send me another ignorant ass hole email like the last one. That's really professional and I feel it really helps out this situation. "


Then it went on for that for like 5 emails...finally we reached common ground..and he agreed to send again :

"I'm biting the bullet here and re-sending. It will be out tomorrow or
Thursday.

Let me know as soon as it shows...or when either of them show for that
matter."


Soon after that, his friend disguised as a guy who thought he was being ripped off by Xenonite asked me what i thought about him and how our trade was goin.i simply stated that it wasnt going good and that i just wish the trade was over with...and that i was waiting for his second shipment...of course the guy told on me....Xenonite informed me that he would not send me my packages now and that he doesnt care that i didnt get the package..and that he wants nothing to do with me now....well folks.u have the whoel stor..u can email me if you wanna hear anything else..cause im sure i left out some stuff here.all i want is my packages..im just sick of these jokers online...

crono

gamegod_dante BTRs29-Mar-2001
Status: active
Aliases: Leo Winslow,Brandon Nordquist, Akuma_666, dtabcn_2
Email: gamegod_dante@hotmail.com
Emails: bcn_2k@hotmail.com , and I highly suspect dta_2k@hotmail.com (although not confirmed)
Address: 4106 NE Pacific Hwy Vancouver, WA 98662
Reporter: Chad

We agreed to trade my Tomb Raider 3 for his Smackdown! I sent mine off but did not receive his. Trade was conducted off-site prior to my joining gtz.

Saltman4u BTRs29-Mar-2001
Status: active
Aliases: saltman4u
Email: saltman4u@altavista.com
Address: korey dotson 4782 glyndon dr. bluefeild west virginia
Reporter: Sk8ter07

DONT TRADE WITH THIS GUY AT ALL EVERYONE

we made a trade for ps2 and he said he would be out and i sent it to this adresswithout knowing i sent him PSX, Dreamcast, THPS1 ANDTHPS 2(both psx), RE3, Blasto, 007 World IS Not Enough, Sonic Adv. Dreamcast and psx RFUS to korey dotson 1208 edenham ct#102 virginia beach va 2346. then i talk to him and he says i didnt get it and i tell him where i sent it and he says oh i well you might get your stuff back so i will take this off when he gives me his PS2.

ilovetoplay18dc BTRs25-Mar-2001
Status: active
Aliases: ilovetoplay18dc
Email: ilovetoplay18dc@buffalo.com
Emails: ilovetoplay18dc@buffalo.com
Address: 122 B. Cramer St. apt# 6, North Tanawanda, NY 14120
Reporter: Cro

I first started a trade with Andrey two weeks before Christmas, and It took Andrey 2 months to send me my money, If what Andrey said is true and the money got lost in the mail. I never saw it. So Andrey made up for it by sending me Street Fighter ex and Grandia. That was fine by me, but when they showed up they were in horrable condition, so I refused the offer and told Andrey this was unaceptable. Andrey was pretty pissed by this point and said to bad and the games were in excellent condition. Well they were not, on was not complete and both were all scratched up. So after a trade of bad trader reports we got it all worked out.
Yeah right, if we did you would not be reading this right now, anyway Andrey said that I will be getting Dragon Force complete and in very good condition for the 2 games back and Iron Storm in very good condition (but not complete) It has been a few weeks and no Dragon Force, So I e-mailed Andrey, but I did not get a reply, So I e-mailed Andrey again and no reply. So we will se if this will get Andrey's attention.

ilovetoplay18dc BTRs25-Mar-2001
Status: active
Aliases: ilovetoplay18dc, BrokenSystemsWanted, iBuyGames
Email: ilovetoplay18dc@buffalo.com
Emails: andrykrs.ny@netzero.net
Address: 122 B cramer ST. Apt#6 North Tonawanda NY 14120 OR 260 Sloan Grove Rd. Spartanburg, SC 29307
Reporter: Roms

We made a trade last December 2000 for my ST Key + PlayStation Laser Head unit (good condition) in exchange for his Fighters Megamix Sega Saturn game (US version, complete) + Dead or Alive 2 Strategy Guide but his end of the trade never arrived at my house. He has already received my end of the trade in record time and you can check it out yourselves by going to http://www.fedex.com and enter the online tracking number of the package I sent to Andrey Korsak. The FedEx tracking number is 810991020861. March 2001 is almost over and I just cannot put up with this crap any longer. I was very patient for your to produce your end of the trade Andrey because you were moving from New York to South Carolina....but enough is enough!!! Andrey, you better contact me if you ever want this BTR removed from your GTZ account! Below are the detailed conversations we had via email.

Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:30:13 -0500
From: "Andrey Korsik" <ilovetoplay18dc@Buffalo.com>
Reply-To: <ilovetoplay18dc@Buffalo.com>
X-Sender: <ilovetoplay18dc@mail.buffalo.com>
To: <auhunter@info.com.ph>
Subject: UGTZ
X-Mailer: <IMail v6.00>



Hi please send the PSX laser Disk and ST key for Saturn to :


Andrey Korsak
122 B cramer ST. Apt#6
North Tonawanda NY 14120


Tell # (716) 692-9823

Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:58:23 -0500
From: "Andrey Korsik" <ilovetoplay18dc@Buffalo.com>
Reply-To: <ilovetoplay18dc@Buffalo.com>
X-Sender: <ilovetoplay18dc@mail.buffalo.com>
To: ROMS <auhunter@mydestiny.net>
Subject: Re: UGTZ
X-Mailer: <IMail v6.00>




dude couldnt you use USPS priority mail , cause FedEx give me such a hard time getting my packages ... frown ... and will i have to pay something ?



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: ROMS <auhunter@mydestiny.net>
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:35:43 +0800


>Andrey,
>
> I have already sent the PSX Laser Head unit (no top cover and 3
>rubber pads included but in good conditon) and the Sega Saturn ST Key
>convertor (excellent conditon) to your place today via FedEx. You can track
>the package at http://www.fedex.com and enter this online tracking number :
>810991020861. You will know exactly where it is...and so will I. smile
>
>
>
>Harold Lim

Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 22:31:35 -0500
From: "Andrey Korsik" <ilovetoplay18dc@Buffalo.com>
Reply-To: <ilovetoplay18dc@Buffalo.com>
X-Sender: <ilovetoplay18dc@mail.buffalo.com>
To: roms <auhunter@info.com.ph>
Subject: Re: What's up?
X-Mailer: <IMail v6.00>




ok and im not trading away the st key it will go when my saturn is gone smile



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: roms <auhunter@info.com.ph>
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 07:59:00 +0800


> BTW.....please update your pending trade with me since you have already
>received the ST Key and PSX lens. I don't get it though....you are trading
>away the ST Key? Thanks.

Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 11:08:48 -0500
From: "Andrey Korsik" <ilovetoplay18dc@Buffalo.com>
Reply-To: <ilovetoplay18dc@Buffalo.com>
X-Sender: <ilovetoplay18dc@mail.buffalo.com>
To: <auhunter@info.com.ph>
Subject: UGTZ adress
X-Mailer: <IMail v6.00>



Hi i need you adress so i can send out the Fighters Megamix and DOA2 Strategy Guide .. Thanks man

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:19:31 -0500
From: "Andrey Korsik" <ilovetoplay18dc@Buffalo.com>
Reply-To: <ilovetoplay18dc@Buffalo.com>
X-Sender: <ilovetoplay18dc@mail.buffalo.com>
To: ROMS <auhunter@mydestiny.net>
Subject: Re: UGTZ adress
X-Mailer: <IMail v6.00>


I tryid to send yesturday but they told me i got to pay $19 for shiping because its going to Phillipines ??? why ? i mean its alot of money for shiping and i dont have that much right now because i had to pay lots of bills .





---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: ROMS <auhunter@mydestiny.net>
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 09:05:41 +0800


> Just wondering if you had shipped the items yet?
>
>At 11:08 AM 12/29/00 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>Hi i need you adress so i can send out the Fighters Megamix and DOA2
>>Strategy Guide .. Thanks man

Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 11:41:20 -0500
From: "Andrey Korsik" <ilovetoplay18dc@Buffalo.com>
Reply-To: <ilovetoplay18dc@Buffalo.com>
X-Sender: <ilovetoplay18dc@mail.buffalo.com>
To: ROMS <auhunter@mydestiny.net>
Subject: Re: UGTZ adress
X-Mailer: <IMail v6.00>


I will , i might send it in a week or two . Sorry dude but i didnt know that ill have to pay that much money frown





---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: ROMS <auhunter@mydestiny.net>
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 23:11:49 +0800


>Oh....bummer. Keep me posted when you do ship the items. frown



Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:34:44 -0500
From: "Andrey Korsik" <ilovetoplay18dc@Buffalo.com>
Reply-To: <ilovetoplay18dc@Buffalo.com>
X-Sender: <ilovetoplay18dc@mail.buffalo.com>
To: roms <auhunter@info.com.ph>
Subject: Re: UGTZ
X-Mailer: <IMail v6.00>



I will send it in a week or two i just have to wait for my check .

Delivered-To: mydestiny.net-auhunter@mydestiny.net
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:41:53 -0500
From: "Andrey Korsik" <ilovetoplay18dc@Buffalo.com>
Reply-To: <ilovetoplay18dc@Buffalo.com>
X-Sender: <ilovetoplay18dc@mail.buffalo.com>
To: ROMS <auhunter@mydestiny.net>
Subject: Re: UGTZ adress
X-Mailer: <IMail v6.00>


Hi , thank you for e-mailing me i will send it some time this week , i just moved to south carolina its i found a smaller box and the Shiping is $10 so i will be able to finaly ship it this week thank you . smile

Delivered-To: mydestiny.net-auhunter@mydestiny.net
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:07:42 -0500
From: "Andrey Korsik" <ilovetoplay18dc@Buffalo.com>
Reply-To: <ilovetoplay18dc@Buffalo.com>
X-Sender: <ilovetoplay18dc@mail.buffalo.com>
To: ROMS <auhunter@mydestiny.net>
Subject: Re: UGTZ adress
X-Mailer: <IMail v6.00>


Umm im sending by USPS is that ok ?





---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: ROMS <auhunter@mydestiny.net>
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 09:58:57 +0800


> Ok cool. Just put a small amount like US $ 10.00 on the package so
>I won't have trouble with the Philippine Post Office. Thanks!
>
>At 08:41 PM 2/3/01 -0500, you wrote:
>>Hi , thank you for e-mailing me i will send it some time this week , i
>>just moved to south carolina its i found a smaller box and the Shiping is
>>$10 so i will be able to finaly ship it this week thank you . smile
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>From: ROMS <auhunter@mydestiny.net>
>>Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 09:29:23 +0800
>>
>> > Hi. I need to know if you have already shipped your end of the
>> >trade via EMS. Thanks.
>> >
>> >Harold Lim
>> >
>> >At 11:41 AM 1/6/01 -0500, you wrote:
>> >>I will , i might send it in a week or two . Sorry dude but i didnt know
>> >>that ill have to pay that much money frown
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> >>From: ROMS <auhunter@mydestiny.net>
>> >>Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 23:11:49 +0800
>> >>
>> >> >Oh....bummer. Keep me posted when you do ship the items. frown

This message came from this loser when I posted an alarming message on the message boards about Andrey Korsak! I found out he was trading away my ST Key and his promised Fighters Megamix game (inculded in a Sega Saturn package for sale!) that he was supposed to be trading with me!

From: "andrykrs.ny" <andrykrs.ny@netzero.net>
To: <auhunter@info.com.ph>
Subject: [gametz]
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:14:59 -0800
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1


What the hell are you talkin about ??? remove that thing that you posted in forums ! Check my pending trades im getting another copy of FIGHTERS MEGAMIX !!! From a guy ? huh

Then I thought it was another game because I checked his trading activities and it found out it was supposed to be another Fighters Megamix game so I deleted my posts on the GTZ message board. Not long after that, my pending trade with Andrey got deleted by the system because his end of the trade did not arrive yet to my place. I posted another pending trade with him with the same items and emailed him to confirm that he has received my end of the trade. I never heard from him again nor did he confirm the 2nd posted trade. This is a fine example of a gold star trader gone bad so that means not all gold star traders WILL NOT RIP YOU OFF!!!