Bad Traders

Bad Trader Reports on Goku4

Goku4 BTRs1-Aug-2000
Status: active
Reporter: LongN

This guy is a total scam, he wanted my Virtua Tennis for his PS2 which is too good to be true. We agreed to send at the same time, but I had a good idea to wait to see the PS2 in real life then send overnight delivery. Well I never got the PS2. The point is this guy tried to rip me off and you should not trade with him!

Goku4 BTRs1-Aug-2000
Status: active
Reporter: SNK_4_Ever

Ok heres the deal this guy made me a trade that is almost EXACTLY the
same trade as Chris Parsons. I knew at the start it sounded fishy. 2 videogames for an unoponed PS2. But anyways I figured that well he cant really be a bad trader so I went ahead and Mailed him my Virtua Tennis and Perfect Dark. We had more stuff that would be traded later when I got the system. Well I first started to get suspicious when he would IM me 2 days in a row saying that he thinks I ripped him off when I have 32 excellent trades and he has 2. So he seems all nervous that I never sent . Then I get an IM from a guy claiming to be his friend. Well guess what this "friend" is actually himself using a different name. Dont belive me? Ask the other guy he ripped, he also saw this. Well to make a long story short he kept saying that his package was not there yet and neither was mine although he had told me that his father sent the PS2 UPS overnight delivery and this was on Last Friday. Well now it is Tuesday and I still have no system or anything. I am currently gonna work with Chris Parsons to try to get our stuff back from this guy and to make sure he cannot rip anyone else off again. DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TRADE WITH HIM. HE WILL STEAL FROM YOU AND LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING.

Goku4 BTRs1-Aug-2000
Status: active
Reporter: GameExchanger

Well, here is the story..... He came into the UGTZ chat and asked if anyone was interested in a Playstation 2, and I said I was so I AIM'ed him and we made an agreement (My Gundam and Time Stalkers for his Playstation 2). We agreed to send same day and I did but he didn't (Here's the Confirmation Number from where I sent (the 27th of July): 0310-2990-0006-2832-8243). He said his "Dad" sent (Am I the only one getting tired of little kids not sending and saying a sibling or parent did and that's why they don't have a Confirmation Number?). So I took his word for it (Supposedly it was sent Friday (28th of July). Well it never arrived Monday but I though I would give him the benefit of the doubt and allow another day for him to send me a Confirmation Number. Well it never arrived today, so I'm stuck with 3 PS2 games I purchased over the weekend to play on my PS2, I know he never sent. So I sent his name, address, AND phone number to the authorities and posted it all over newsgroups (as a bad trader) so people would not be screwed by this little kid again. If you want his phone number, E-mail me. This will come down when and if I receive the PS2.

Thanks,

--Chris--


UPDATE

Bill has just informed me this guy has 3 accounts: MakoShark, Neo42, and Axle191 all on the same computer! This guy has ripped me and a friend off and we each have his phone number, I will be posting his phone number in 1 hour. I'm putting this BTR on ALL of ihs accounts. My P. I. recently E-mailed Jon and said this:

Hello Jon, (08/02/00)

It has recently came to my attention that you ripped my friend Chris Parsons off. I am a Private Investigator, my name is Lawrence A. Osbourn. I am an expert in this field of work, what you did is a serious felony and Chris has all the documents of your conversations with him (And let me just say, you are rude and swear a lot), Emails, your address, and phone number (Yours and "Billy's.") So now we have enough information to start a case against you, actually, against your parents as I was told you are only 15.
We will be suing for the maximum aloud in this field of work. Also Mail Fraud has been filed and your parents could be sued for up to 59,000.00 and serve up to 30 years in prison. This is just to inform you of the upcoming events. Now that we have found you have ripped off other people as well, the case is even stronger against you and the stats I gave you could almost double. 2 counts of Mail Fraud in the first degree, and 2 cases for personal damages.
Now Chris has informed me this will be dropped if he receives a "Playstation 2" from you before (08/08/00) because after that the case will be in progress and nothing can be done to stop the hearings. You will receive a call soon after the 8th informing you when the hearings begin.

Thank you for reading,

Lawrence A. Osbourn
Head of Private Investigation Research

Oh and in case you have not read this:

Postal Inspection Service
Mail Fraud and Misrepresentation
Title 18, United States Code
Section 1341. Frauds and swindles

Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, or to sell, dispose of, loan, exchange, alter, give away, distribute, supply, or furnish or procure for unlawful use any counterfeit or spurious coin, obligation, security, or other article, or anything represented to be or intimated or held out to be such counterfeit or spurious article, for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice or attempting so to do, places in any post office or authorized depository for mail matter, any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by the Postal Service, or deposits or causes to be deposited any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by any private or commercial interstate carrier, or takes or receives therefrom, any such matter or thing, or knowingly causes to be delivered by mail or such carrier according to the direction thereon, or at the place at which it is directed to be delivered by the person to whom it is addressed, any such matter or thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. If the violation affects a financial institution, such person shall be fined not more than $ 1,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.

Here is the Email Bill sent me:


I took a look and found that this account:
Alex Horton
Username: Axle191

also used the same computer as Neo42 and Makoshark24.

I've suspended Makoshark24 as a bad trader.

You should still create another bad trader report for the Makoshark24
lionstud24@hotmail.com account. It helps alert people, just in case.

-bill







Goku4 BTRs5-Sep-1999
Status: active
Reporter: ENERGON

Hmm well we were supposed to trade my Bomberman 64,Battle Arena Toshinden,Street Fighter Alpha,Mortal Kombat Trilogy for his Mega Man X4,Mega Man Legends,Mega Man 8,Syphon Filter,Castlevania:Symphony of the Night I thought I was getting a good deal for my older games I guess it was too good to be true for I should have known I was gonna get ripped off when he askedme to put our trade as pending,but soon after I gotdone I found out it was confirmed.I asked him why he confirmed it and he said"because i know that we will both send and i needed 1 more confirmed trade".Sorry but I believe a confirmed trade should be a confirmed trade.About a week and a half after I sent I asked him if he recieved my games and he said "no not yet".That realy made me wonder if I was getting a raw deal.So I talked to one of his so called confirmed trades and found out it never went through.And I know I put the right address and return address,I wish I would have had delivery confirmation put on my package now.He also never asked once why my package had not shown up after weeks.Probably because he knew where it was at.This is warning to all traders who might want to deal with him DON'T he will rip you off,maybe he really has a confrmed trade but do you want to take the chance and get burned by him.John you can send my games out and admit you ripped me off and I'll take this down or you can be a scumbag and just keep my games.