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Topic   Any experience with Hackintosh-ing?

EB
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9-Nov(#1)
I am looking at making a cheap Hackintosh. From what I read, I can do a refurbished Dell Optiplex 780 with a Radeon HD5450 and at least run El Capitan (having Sierra/High Sierra would be nice, but doesn't really matter to me.) With a monitor as well, that would be a hackintosh for about $150, which I think is a very good price. Any thoughts? How difficult is it to undergo this process?


theJaw
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* 9-Nov(#2)
What does a hackintosh enable you to do?
tonymack21
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9-Nov(#3)
what can you do with it? if you are looking to make an emu box you can probably get an NVidia shield for about that price and it does other stuff too.

RagingShadow07
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9-Nov(#4)
I've done it on two systems. It's a lot of trouble if your hardware isn't on a list of stuff that works out of the box. You're going to want to set aside some time, and to ("Legally," in that it's against Apple's TOS but you're not pirating the software by going the legit way) get a copy of macOS you need a Mac to begin with.

SirConnery
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9-Nov(#5)
It's almost more cost effective buying a MacMini then paying to modify a pc. I paid $100 for mine, a Corei5 with 8GB ram. Added a SSD and a traditional drive. Runs High Sierra fine.

You can get them for a song since it's the first MacMini without an optical drive.
Noid
Gold Good Trader
9-Nov(#6)
Hackintosh-ing, eh?! Well, back in the day, I learned about it from neighborhood kids. But, I hear that, nowadays, it's actually a part of the school's curriculum. Oh, well; to each their own. smiley:::wink
RagingShadow07
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9-Nov(#7)
SirConnery wrote:
> It's almost more cost effective buying a MacMini then paying to modify a pc. I paid
> $100 for mine, a Corei5 with 8GB ram. Added a SSD and a traditional drive. Runs High
> Sierra fine.
>
> You can get them for a song since it's the first MacMini without an optical drive.

If you're just looking to play around with the OS this is by far the easier way to do it. You won't have to worry about updates bricking your system or iCloud services not working due to unrecognized hardware.
EB
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9-Nov(#8)
SirConnery wrote:
> It's almost more cost effective buying a MacMini then paying to modify a pc. I paid
> $100 for mine, a Corei5 with 8GB ram. Added a SSD and a traditional drive. Runs High
> Sierra fine.
>
> You can get them for a song since it's the first MacMini without an optical drive.

Could you point me in the direction of something like that? Or did you kind of get lucky?
SirConnery
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9-Nov(#9)
I got lucky but they're not too far out of reach. There's multiple upgradable MacMini models out there, but they newest models aren't user upgradable. First check out this page at EveryMac. You're looking for models inbetween the release of Mini's with no optical drive and current. https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/index-...

The first system is Mid 2011 Corei5. That's what I bought.
https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/specs/...

Late 2012 is the last fully user upgradable model. They had no 2013 releases. The 2014's have soldered ram and after 2014 they didn't release any new models since in the Mini line. There's rumors of a 2018 Mini but they may also scrap the entire line alltogether.

These are really easy to upgrade. Memory is SODIMM models like a laptop. Processor I haven't tried, but hard drives are easy too. You need a motherboard removal tool in order to slide the motherboard (logic board in mac lingo) out about in inch to install a second hard drive easier. It is a two pronged loop you pop into motherboard holes to pull it out. They're cheap. You will need a drive ribbon accessory to install a second drive.

I bought my parts from iFixit which also has tutorials for each of the models. https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Mac_Mini_Unibody
They sell the toolkit, motherboard tool and second drive ribbon for $27, but I've seen it cheaper on eBay and Amazon. All these Mini's have a bottom that unscrews to reveal the internals. If you need a copy of Mac OS Sierra/High Sierra, I can send you one. I make these regularly at work on USB flash drives. In my experience High Sierra runs best on this model with 8GB ram and a SSD. I have tried regular Sierra on a hard drive and I didn't like the speed feel. It works but the SSD really helps.

In my case I have it connected via HDMI to my TV and I'm making it into an emulation station.
SirConnery
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9-Nov(#10)
Late 2012 MacMini refurbished from a Mac seller (OWC of Illinois) $489 which is on the higher side:
https://eshop.macsales.com/item/Apple/E1D59XX2XXXC...

This eBay seller has them in quantity for $299 each:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Mac-Mini-Late-2012-...

And more 2011 models like mine:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0...

Don't bother with those models with the optical drive slot in them unless you can get it less then $75. They use Core 2 Duo processors and require more upgrades then what it's worth.
EB
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10-Nov(#11)
@SirConnery thank you so much! This was all really helpful, and I will definitely keep an eye out for that model. I think I would probably add Ram and SSD to it too. I really appreciate it!

SirConnery
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10-Nov(#12)
yes
SirConnery
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10-Nov(#13)
Another source, search for and contact "MacMini Colo" short for colocation. These are business hosting companies that only use MacMinis for servers. These companies regularly sell older units when they upgrade. Here's one but they currently don't have any listed: https://macminicolo.net/usedmacmini
EB
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader
11-Nov(#14)
Sweet thanks.

Topic   Any experience with Hackintosh-ing?