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Topic   Calling out on New Year's Eve

Jerry
Triple Gold Good Trader
* 31-Dec-2017(#1)
So I'm a manager at a grocery store and ever year we have at least 1-2 people call out on New Year's Eve when they close. Do they honestly think we believe they are sick?
SirConnery
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31-Dec-2017(#2)
Fire them?
Frank
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31-Dec-2017(#3)
Give them the craptiest of crapty shifts.

whitefire
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* 31-Dec-2017(#4)
When I worked in retail, the rule was, you called out on Christmas Eve, don't bother coming back in the day after Christmas either. I'm sure some businesses have a similar policy in regards to New Years Eve (restaurants, bars, etc.).

MaxRebo
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* 31-Dec-2017(#5)
You all call it "call out"? I've never heard that before. I've only ever heard it as "call off".

Edit:

Just Googled this and seems its a NY/NE thing.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=38.608...
RagingShadow07
Bronze Good Trader Has Written 17 Reviews
31-Dec-2017(#6)
At my job we have "critical business days." Since New Year's is a paid holiday, if you miss the day before or the day after (aforementioned critical business days) it you'd forfeit your pay for that day and be assessed double attendance remarks for it. Same goes for any other paid holiday.

whitefire
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31-Dec-2017(#7)
MaxRebo wrote:
> You all call it "call out"? I've never heard that before. I've only ever heard
> it as "call off".

That's because you've been eating too much Tillamook and blueberries.

whitefire
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31-Dec-2017(#8)
RagingShadow07 wrote:
> At my job we have "critical business days." Since New Year's is a paid holiday,
> if you miss the day before or the day after (aforementioned critical business days)
> it you'd forfeit your pay for that day and be assessed double attendance remarks
> for it. Same goes for any other paid holiday.
>
>

Forfeit as in you get paid salary, but you now won't get that day's worth portion of your salary? As in, they're basicaly blackout dates for PTO/sick time?

MaxRebo
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31-Dec-2017(#9)
whitefire wrote:
> MaxRebo wrote:
>> You all call it "call out"? I've never heard that before. I've only ever heard
>> it as "call off".
>
> That's because you've been eating too much Tillamook and blueberries.
>
>

Well, I've lived the majority of my life in the midwest. I actually don't know what they call it out here since I've only ever worked salaried jobs here.
whitefire
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31-Dec-2017(#10)
MaxRebo wrote:
> whitefire wrote:
>> MaxRebo wrote:
> |>> You all call it "call out"? I've never heard that before. I've only ever heard
> |>> it as "call off".
>>
>> That's because you've been eating too much Tillamook and blueberries.
>>
>>
>
> Well, I've lived the majority of my life in the midwest. I actually don't know what
> they call it out here since I've only ever worked salaried jobs here.

That's dissapointing. That was the only thing I could come up with out where you live, and it didn't even work out your situation.

RagingShadow07
Bronze Good Trader Has Written 17 Reviews
* 31-Dec-2017(#11)
whitefire wrote:
> RagingShadow07 wrote:
>> At my job we have "critical business days." Since New Year's is a paid holiday,
>> if you miss the day before or the day after (aforementioned critical business
> days)
>> it you'd forfeit your pay for that day and be assessed double attendance remarks
>> for it. Same goes for any other paid holiday.
>>
>>
>
> Forfeit as in you get paid salary, but you now won't get that day's worth portion
> of your salary? As in, they're basicaly blackout dates for PTO/sick time?
>
>

You can take them off but have to schedule way in advance (I'm a supervisor and can give you a day off two days from now if you want it, but you'd have to tell me a month in advance if you wanted one of the critical days).

If it's an hourly employee they'd lose 8 hours * hourly, and salary employees... probably wouldn't be very welcome there afterward since salary is all leadership.
dustin11
Double Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
31-Dec-2017(#12)
Schedule them early the next morning.
whitefire
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31-Dec-2017(#13)
dustin11 wrote:
> Schedule them early the next morning.

But then they get 1.5x pay.

whitefire
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31-Dec-2017(#14)
RagingShadow07 wrote:
> whitefire wrote:
>> RagingShadow07 wrote:
> |>> At my job we have "critical business days." Since New Year's is a paid
> holiday,
> |>> if you miss the day before or the day after (aforementioned critical business
>> days)
> |>> it you'd forfeit your pay for that day and be assessed double attendance remarks
> |>> for it. Same goes for any other paid holiday.
> |>>
> |>>
>>
>> Forfeit as in you get paid salary, but you now won't get that day's worth portion
>> of your salary? As in, they're basicaly blackout dates for PTO/sick time?
>>
>>
>
> You can take them off but have to schedule way in advance (I'm a supervisor and can
> give you a day off two days from now if you want it, but you'd have to tell me a
> month in advance if you wanted one of the critical days).
>
> If it's an hourly employee they'd lose 8 hours * hourly, and salary employees...
> probably wouldn't be very welcome there afterward since salary is all leadership.
>

So if they're hourly, and they don't work, they don't get paid. Gotcha.

reneeatworld
Double Gold Good Trader Has Written 20 Reviews
31-Dec-2017(#15)
MaxRebo wrote:
> You all call it "call out"? I've never heard that before. I've only ever heard
> it as "call off".
>
>

Many of us around here say "called in."


King_link
Bronze Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
31-Dec-2017(#16)
They don't care what you do at the Postal Service. No one ever gets fired.
whitefire
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31-Dec-2017(#17)
King_link wrote:
> They don't care what you do at the Postal Service. No one ever gets fired.

If you're a member of a certain group, it's damn near impossible to get a job at the PO around here. I've seen one, and he's like 60 years old, and he's probably been doing it since the 70's.

King_link
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1-Jan-2018(#18)
whitefire wrote:
> King_link wrote:
>> They don't care what you do at the Postal Service. No one ever gets fired.
>
> If you're a member of a certain group, it's damn near impossible to get a job at
> the PO around here. I've seen one, and he's like 60 years old, and he's probably
> been doing it since the 70's.
>
>


Processing plants, they will hire damn near anyone. The actual offices are pretty difficult to land a job in.


Happy New year to all!
whitefire
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1-Jan-2018(#19)
King_link wrote:
> whitefire wrote:
>> King_link wrote:
> |>> They don't care what you do at the Postal Service. No one ever gets fired.
>>
>> If you're a member of a certain group, it's damn near impossible to get a job
> at
>> the PO around here. I've seen one, and he's like 60 years old, and he's probably
>> been doing it since the 70's.
>>
>>
>
>
> Processing plants, they will hire damn near anyone. The actual offices are pretty
> difficult to land a job in.
>
>
> Happy New year to all!

Is the pay similar?

Uppercat
Double Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
1-Jan-2018(#20)
My company gives us off December 23rd through January 2nd so no need to call out.
King_link
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* 1-Jan-2018(#21)
I'm not 100% but I think it is around the same. Any new hire is considered a PSE (Postal Support Employee) or CCA (City Carrier Assistant) if you are a carrier. You work under that title for ever how long, I did 4 years as a PSE, until you are converted into a career employee and gain access to the perks you don't really get as a PSE.
theyrhere
Has Written 2 Reviews
1-Jan-2018(#22)
I didn't use any vacation days at my current job, so I took off all this past week. I'm sure my coworkers hate me lol.
Discgolfer123
Double Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
* 1-Jan-2018(#23)
I'll never forget back in 2008, my second job and I gas station clerk and if you worked a holiday, everyone got paid double time for it. Naturally, I was always the odd man out and never got scheduled on holidays while everyone else gobbled up the time. A few weeks before Christmas, I found a note that I wasn't supposed to see saying that I was going to be scheduled open to close on Christmas Day, so everyone else could have off. I put in my two week notice exactly two weeks before Christmas Eve, they weren't happy.

whitefire
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1-Jan-2018(#24)
Maybe the low man on the totem pole work on Christmas, that kind of sounds par for the course to me. Maybe I'm missing something though? Did they treat you like crap? Also, it sounds like you had Thanksgiving, Easter, and 4th of July off?

Discgolfer123
Double Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
1-Jan-2018(#25)
I was the low man, I was the only guy there as well. There was me and 3 other older ladies, probably in their 50's. They didn't treat me like crap or anything, just unfair when it came to holidays. It is supposed to be rotated but there was always some excuse as to why I wasn't able to work holidays. I didn't really mind it, but double time would have been really nice to have once in a while.
Prime
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1-Jan-2018(#26)
Man I have so many great getting fired/quitting stories. I should really compile them into something. Was glad to work tonight. Fun night to be taxi driver. Dude yuked in my cab. First time that's ever happened. I wonder if he called out of work tonight. We get a $50 service charge if you boot. The smell was horrendous. It's never happened so I always wondered how you could impose the penalty on someone if it was a cash call. Luckily the dude had nice friends and they paid it. Plus a $30 tip. (Fare was $80 from Floral Park to Farmingldale for 4 people). Called my dispatcher after and asked who the $50 goes to. He told me "put it in ya pocket, take that muhFudgea to tha caawaash an get da fudge back ta town it's faouckin jumpin".

Call was 70-10. 10 off the top for gas, 70 I split with the company 50/50 and they gave me 30 plus the 50. So 35, 10, 30, 50 minus 12 for the car wash brought me to $113 for me just on that one call.

I don't think before this year and last NYE that I ever worked on this date to have necessitated a call out.

Last year I dropped a car load of girls home sometime after 4am and I'm bullcrapting with them through 4 separate stops and the last girls was getting a little suggestive, slightly amorous and I'm not throwing anything back but when we pull up to the crib and do my usual 3/4 turn to collect the loot and she puts the money in my hand in a way that isn't creepy but if a dude did it, it would be. And as I go to turn back she's like "wait" and I can see in her face that a) she's wrecked and simultaimuosly b) that she was to consider this evening a failure if she didn't hmmm, handle a phallus. I could tell this because she was touching my thumb in a provocative manner. I looked her right in the face and said "you're very pretty but it's way too late and you're way too drunk for that, go on in. Happy New Year". She thanked me, told me I was sweet and went in.

Happy New Years ya filthy animals.
SilverOwl
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1-Jan-2018(#27)
reneeatworld wrote:
> MaxRebo wrote:
>> You all call it "call out"? I've never heard that before. I've only ever heard
>> it as "call off".
>>
>>
>
> Many of us around here say "called in."
>
>
>

We say called in.
But I also heard of called off, depending of context. I called off work. The cook called in, we need some help.... But I have also said that I called into work
darkslime
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* 1-Jan-2018(#28)
I blacked out and I guess did a bunch of whip its, and passed out in front of some party we were at. They were trying to move me out of the front yard and I spit on the house owners face and was calling people ice cream mans niggers and whores and I guess charging my friends full force who were trying to get me up, the uber drove away when he saw me. Woke up in my bed covered in vomit. Maybe i have an alcohol problem. I feel like total crap today.

And I used to call out every holiday whenI was a cook because there was a guy who always wanted to cover as many shifts as possible
dustin11
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1-Jan-2018(#29)
Well, at least you didn't pass out on your kitchen floor.
King_link
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1-Jan-2018(#30)
Damn man, get your crap together.
SirConnery
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1-Jan-2018(#31)
Prime wrote:
> hmmm, handle a phallus. I could tell this because she was touching my thumb in a
> provocative manner. I looked her right in the face and said "you're very pretty

Can I get a free cab ride if I touch your thumb in a provocative manner?
Prime
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2-Jan-2018(#32)
No freebies. Everyone pays.
Admiral
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2-Jan-2018(#33)
Eh, that's the nature of the business I think. Why should they worry about that crummy job when they can find another 100 crummy $10/hr jobs.

You can punish them a little, but things probably won't change for most employees. As the manager of a place like that (I once managed a restaurant, so I know what you are going through) - just expect a percentage of your employees to not care as much. If they suck at their job on top of that, get rid of them. If they are awesome and this is their only offense, maybe deal with it a little more softly.
SirConnery
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2-Jan-2018(#34)
Prime wrote:
> No freebies. Everyone pays.


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Prime
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* 2-Jan-2018(#35)
Doesnt mean we can't step out at the seafood restaurant after where I do hand stuff to you under the table then never call you again.
Admiral
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3-Jan-2018(#36)
lpeters82
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3-Jan-2018(#37)
Admiral wrote:
> Eh, that's the nature of the business I think. Why should they worry about that crummy
> job when they can find another 100 crummy $10/hr jobs.

As a manager I've been in situations where I'd have normally let staff go, but I simply couldn't find a replacement. It's a terrible situation when the options are bad employee or no employee.
Admiral
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3-Jan-2018(#38)
Yeah, good point.
HybridCRoW
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3-Jan-2018(#39)
In the context I have heard them, "call off" is past tense, "call in" is present / future tense.

My last job I had for the longest time was a full time temporary seasonal employee and the only holiday pay I got were the non-major holidays when the factory was not actually shut down. Thanksgiving and Christmas I did not get paid, mostly because the factory was shut down for at least a week, but by Christmas time, my season was done for about 6 months.

My current job of 7 years, I have sick time/vacation time, 401k, health insurance, and a variety of other benefits that have come in handy. New Year's Day, while it is a paid holiday, the department I work in (as it seems to be) does not consider it an actual holiday. If it is a scheduled work day (like for me), we have to work it unless we requested it off in advance. There is also a rule that only one person per shift can have times off, which they go by when requested, and then by seniority if requested at the same time. The reason was because of the call offs we got. Since they made that change, there really hasn't been any call offs for New Year's.
bonham2
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5-Jan-2018(#40)
I worked at a restaurant a few years ago as a second job. I made it clear in my interview that I could not work any holidays because I have kids. The manager agreed, but then he left the store. The new manager would schedule me every time, and I told her repeatedly I wasn't working. Thither calling out, I simply refused. I told her to fire knee if it was a problem. She never did.
Prime
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5-Jan-2018(#41)
I never worked holidays or my bday. But when I started working the graveyard tour 6pm-6am working on holidays didn't bother me because I could still see my family and friends and make it to work. Tips are always excellent on holidays. But if I didn't work this shift I'd be against it. But being me I wouldn't call out. I'd just say from the start I wouldn't be in that day. I never really worried about being fired. I was a waiter, a pizza delivery guy, a doorman. When you work in hospitality you can find another job in 6 seconds. One of the few industries left in America you can walk into ask who does the hiring, hand him/her the application and they'll say comeback Tuesday. If you go in Tuesday and do well they'll put you on the schedule. No endless waiting for a call back after you electronically submit your online application with 86,000 other jerks.
HybridCRoW
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5-Jan-2018(#42)
The "floating holiday" that we have is typically used on birthdays. I didn't use mine for my birthday this year. I used it as part of my time off.

Topic   Calling out on New Year's Eve