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Topic   Xbox One X Scorpio Preorders at Target - SOLD OUT

Porksta
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* 1-Nov(#1)
Got mine! Note - Target does charge your card upon order, even if it isn't released yet. I don't see any options to apply gift cards to your order except at payment input.


longhornsk57
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1-Nov(#2)
wish they took an Xbox One S trade in, since I have that redcard would be good to get 5% extra off...
Rocket
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1-Nov(#3)
Torn between grabbing this one or waiting until Black Friday and hoping for a deal on the regular edition with a free game or something.
dustin11
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2-Nov(#4)
I wonder how Target got ahold of these when everyone else has been sold out since like 15 minutes after they initially went up.
Porksta
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2-Nov(#5)
Yeah I am curious as well. They still have some!

dustin11
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2-Nov(#6)
I would half expect them to just ship you the regular edition, tbh. Or maybe they just didn't put their batch up for preorder with everyone else or something.
Porksta
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2-Nov(#7)
That's what I am thinking. I had thought all Scorpios were sold out about a month ago yet Target just seems to have a bunch. I better get the Scorpio.

dustin11
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2-Nov(#8)
Yeah, a bit odd for sure. I guess putting in an order wouldn't hurt for those who missed the preorder the first time around.
WithinTemptation
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2-Nov(#9)
Besides appearance, is Xbox One X and Xbox One X Scorpio the same thing?
Porksta
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2-Nov(#10)
Exactly the same. Scorpio is basically a "Day 1" edition. The differences are purely cosmetic, although even that is a stretch.

dustin11
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* 2-Nov(#11)
Scorpio Edition:
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Xbox One X
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Porksta
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2-Nov(#12)
gosh darn the Scorpio is so sexy.

dustin11
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* 2-Nov(#13)
I liked that they made that edition as a nod the fans who were following it since the rumors began to surface.

One important thing to note is that the Scorpio edition comes with the vertical stand to where the OG X does not.
Porksta
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2-Nov(#14)
Oh that's neat.

WithinTemptation
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2-Nov(#15)
Porksta wrote:
> Exactly the same. Scorpio is basically a "Day 1" edition. The differences are purely
> cosmetic, although even that is a stretch.
>
>

Good to know since I see a few places have the regular version still up for sale.
Porksta
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2-Nov(#16)
Oh, the regular version will be everywhere as it is the new standard. Scorpio is only for straight ballas like myself.

dustin11
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2-Nov(#17)
Porksta wrote:
> Oh, the regular version will be everywhere as it is the new standard. Scorpio is
> only for straight ballas like myself.
>
>

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Porksta
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2-Nov(#18)
That's actually my usual Friday night.

dustin11
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2-Nov(#19)
Porksta wrote:
> That's actually my usual Friday night.
>
>

That's my Monday - Sunday.
Porksta
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2-Nov(#20)
Fun facts:

Xbox One X preorders have run out. Scorpio? Still available.

Even though it isn't out yet, Scorpio has 14 reviews equating 4 stars.

dustin11
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2-Nov(#21)
Wheres it review at? Target?
Porksta
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2-Nov(#22)
Yes. User reviews.

dustin11
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2-Nov(#23)
User reviews should be disabled by default until the product launches.
six
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2-Nov(#24)
Be cautious alot of target preorders got canceled a few weeks back of the Scorpio
Porksta
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3-Nov(#25)
FWIW, Best Buy is also taking pre-orders. Maybe some new stock was released.

Rocket
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5-Nov(#26)
Mine shipped last night. Fingers crossed that it's actually the Project Scorpio edition.
dustin11
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5-Nov(#27)
Mine is still "preparing". My guess is it will get shipped out tomorrow.
Porksta
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5-Nov(#28)
Mine has shipped!

Porksta
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6-Nov(#29)
All gone, hope you ordered yours!

dustin11
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6-Nov(#30)
Freaking BB still hasn't shipped mine. I'm hoping they get it out today and overnight it to me or something. Still won't have my TV until Thursday, but I want to start to get those giant enhanced packs downloaded and the console setup to I'm ready to roll.
DarkLink
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6-Nov(#31)
Amazon has them back up now.

Porksta
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6-Nov(#32)
Well crap, should I buy on Amazon and then return the Target one? I have a little over $100 in Amazon GC that I would like to use instead of all cash. If Amazon was still tax free I would definitely do it...

six
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6-Nov(#33)
I miss tax free amazon so much lol
dustin11
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6-Nov(#34)
Mine just shipped and the delivery confirmation says I should have it tomorrow.

I would personally not buy it off of Amazon unless you don't care about when it shows up. I've had really bad luck with getting anything on time from them for the last few months.
DarkLink
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* 6-Nov(#35)
dustin11 wrote:
> Mine just shipped and the delivery confirmation says I should have it tomorrow.
>
> I would personally not buy it off of Amazon unless you don't care about when it shows
> up. I've had really bad luck with getting anything on time from them for the last
> few months.

I admit when it comes to games - I get them on time / release date.


I have had trouble couple times with Systems tho....

My favorite was when they made the PS3 God Of War Bundle edition (red system) They sent a invoice to UPS to let them know they are sending over this item for shipment...
didnt show up on release date... didnt show up the next day... Tracking number never updated - and Amazon said it must have got "Lost"

which I believe they forgot to send over the system... because they sent another one - one day shipping and it was here the next day lol



BUT after all that said and done.... I do miss the tax free amazon - but I would still always order off amazon if I can.
dustin11
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6-Nov(#36)
Tax free Amazon was good and I'm glad that tax free ebay still exists smiley:::smile. Saved me $140 on my TV.
EvilMrJingles
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7-Nov(#37)
Still available at amazon, what happened to limited availability and once preorders are sold they're gone forever?
Porksta
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7-Nov(#38)
I'm still wondering why I haven't gotten an email alert from Amazon that they are available. I set that email a few months ago.

Cymus
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11-Nov(#39)
Aren't there like, 3 exclusives that actually matter for this console? Gears, Forza, Halo? I'm trying to find a reason to keep my xbox one bc I don't play any of those 3.
dustin11
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11-Nov(#40)
Cymus wrote:
> Aren't there like, 3 exclusives that actually matter for this console? Gears, Forza,
> Halo? I'm trying to find a reason to keep my xbox one bc I don't play any of those
> 3.

No. That's only "true" if you listen to idiots that don't play the X1. Also, virtually every single 3rd party game will/doe, play better on the X than on any other console per Digital Foundry and the comparisons aren't even close.
Porksta
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11-Nov(#41)
My Target Scorpio arrived today. Box was absolutely mangled, but the console itself was fine. I printed out a receipt to return it, and noticed I have until March 5 to return in. That seems oddly long...

Finn
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11-Nov(#42)
Cymus wrote:
> Aren't there like, 3 exclusives that actually matter for this console? Gears, Forza,
> Halo? I'm trying to find a reason to keep my xbox one bc I don't play any of those
> 3.



I here yeah, anything else can also be played on PC. Going to build a rig after we have our wedding paid off. I miss my PC FPS's.


dustin11
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11-Nov(#43)
That can just about be said about just about all consoles other than the Switch. The PC ports of most, if not all, X1 games have had a ton of issues upon launch, so if you don't mind dealing with poorly launched and non optimized games plus needing to build a $1200 rig to play at the same graphical capability as the X then by all means.
Dustin
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11-Nov(#44)
PS4 has destroyed XB1 when it comes to exclusives. You can add that to the list with the switch.
six
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11-Nov(#45)
Honeslty I just like xbox for the eco system. I buy my games digitally and some come with a free pc copy, most of my 360 purchases work on the one and now original xbox games are being added too. Xbox has some nice exclusives not as much as ps4 though. Quatnum Break, state of decay, cuphead, sunset overdrive.
Dustin
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11-Nov(#46)
six wrote:
> Honeslty I just like xbox for the eco system. I buy my games digitally and some come
> with a free pc copy, most of my 360 purchases work on the one and now original xbox
> games are being added too. Xbox has some nice exclusives not as much as ps4 though.
> Quatnum Break, state of decay, cuphead, sunset overdrive.

Personally I prefer the xbone as well. I like the controller better and the UI feels more comfortable to me. Backwards compatibility is a huge plus as well. I was just pointing out that ps4 kills it when it comes to exclusives.
dustin11
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11-Nov(#47)
Depends on what you're into. If you like racing games and multiplayer shooters then X1 is the better platform. If you like JRPGs and single player 3rd person games then PS4 is better.
dracula
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12-Nov(#48)
dustin11 wrote:
> That can just about be said about just about all consoles other than the Switch.
> The PC ports of most, if not all, X1 games have had a ton of issues upon launch,
> so if you don't mind dealing with poorly launched and non optimized games plus needing
> to build a $1200 rig to play at the same graphical capability as the X then by all
> means.
>

More like 600, and that is if you are starting from scratch with no casing, no mobo, no nothing, not just upgrading your graphics card and cpu
dustin11
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12-Nov(#49)
Care to price me one out then? Remember, it has to be able to do games like Forza 7 on ultra settings at 4k and 60fps.
six
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12-Nov(#50)
Needs a keyboard mouse and os aswell.
dracula
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12-Nov(#51)
dustin11 wrote:
> Care to price me one out then? Remember, it has to be able to do games like Forza
> 7 on ultra settings at 4k and 60fps.

Never tried ultra settings. I just wanted to play witcher 3 without horrendous loadtimes

If you have microcenter in your town get their mobo and cpu combo.

Every month, tomshardware does a "build a cpu for $500, for 1000 for 2000" etc. They do not use microcenter deals in their builds because they are B&M only but are still a good guildline. I have no idea about ultra settings and 4k for forza but I can play witcher 3 without the hideous load times that are on the xbox one.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/how-to-build-a...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/how-to-build-a...

Let's say you already have the casing, ssd, ram, psu and just want to get a better cpu and graphics card, and have 500$ and want to shop on BF.


6 months ago, I got the i7 7700k + asus prime combo from microcenter for 400. If you don't need the mobo, they still have the i 7 7700k for under 300. Grab a graphics card on black friday.

If I were to get one today, I'd go with the i5 8600k (from newegg for 300$, probably slightly less at microcenter). It just came out last month. Get that and card on black friday, If you like intell, get a 1060 or 1070. I don't know as much about amd, but the ryzen is supposed to be good.

Here is a 1060 gtx 6 gig for 240$
https://slickdeals.net/f/10773135-newegg-black-fri...

or if you want to splurge get the 1070 for $400

https://slickdeals.net/f/10772739-newegg-black-fri...

Just because I like you, here are some ssd deals on black friday for 50% off
https://www.wiknix.com/best-ssd-black-friday-deals...

For things like a casing, ram, psu, you should only have to buy those items once in your life and then just upgrade the rest as needed.

dracula
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12-Nov(#52)
"why not just get an xbox one x for those prices?"

If you like playing games like the morrowind series or the fallout series, with good mods you will need a pc.
Dustin
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12-Nov(#53)
dustin11 wrote:
> Care to price me one out then? Remember, it has to be able to do games like Forza
> 7 on ultra settings at 4k and 60fps.

I think the correct answer to that one is, "you can't".
dustin11
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12-Nov(#54)
So the 1070 alone will set you back $400 and that the minimum card you need to have to run the game at 4k while maintaining 60fps. During the Digital Foundry test, the 1070 would start losing frames during scenes with 24 cars on screen when full weather effects were active while the X held a steady 60. If you're running with a 1060 your going to get in the low 40s before you have to turn the graphics settings down to maintain a steady frame rate. Then you got the case, CPU, MB, keyboard & mouse/controller, power supply, 4k Blu-ray drive, HDD, 8gb of additional ram (can't be ghetto RAM either, its got to match whats in the X1 which would need to be in the neighborhood of 8GB GDDR5 at 326gb/sec), and an OS. So after you throw in a 1070 you have $100 for all the other parts if you want to match the X.
Dustin
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12-Nov(#55)
#pcmasterrace
dustin11
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12-Nov(#56)
Dustin wrote:
> dustin11 wrote:
>> Care to price me one out then? Remember, it has to be able to do games like Forza
>> 7 on ultra settings at 4k and 60fps.
>
> I think the correct answer to that one is, "you can't".

Bingo. PCWorld (or perhaps it was PCGaming, one of the two) had a video on it saying that even their $750 build wasn't able to match the X and they would have needed closer to $1000 to build a spec for spec comparison but then also mentioned that the X will have games with better optimization and would there fore still run games better than the $1k machine. The X also dediates 9gb of their GRRD5 RAM for gaming which a PC wouldn't do if you just threw 12gb into the case because the OS would eat too much.
dracula
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12-Nov(#57)
I don't play on max settings. If you want max settings, open up your wallet and get a 1080 to truly give you "max settings". That is a bit like me saying "I have a $230 dollar graphics card, a 1060, I want to get identical results to a 1080, how do I accomplish this"?

I won't, and I'm totally ok with that. I could upgrade down the road in 5 or 10 years, but I never cared about ultra settings in the first place.
dracula
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12-Nov(#58)
How is the cpu on the x, what does it compare to? A lot of the open world sandbox games are cpu heavy, not so much on the gpu.

Here are some nerds that built a pc with identical components to the xbox one x, it cost about 720$

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3200767/gaming/xbo...

My only real complaint with the xbox(or ps4, or switch) is that it doesn't run all of the mods on the mod heavy games like skyrim.
dustin11
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12-Nov(#59)
So then you can't build a PC for $600 that is comparable to the X then and it would indeed cost around $1200, like what I was saying earlier.
dustin11
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12-Nov(#60)
dracula wrote:
> How is the cpu on the x, what does it compare to? A lot of the open world sandbox
> games are cpu heavy, not so much on the gpu.
>
> Here are some nerds that built a pc with identical components to the xbox one x,
> it cost about 720$
>
>
> My only real complaint with the xbox(or ps4, or switch) is that it doesn't run all
> of the mods on the mod heavy games like skyrim.

I don't think you read that entire article.....at all.

As for the "identical components:

"You can't do an exact 1:1 duplicate of an Xbox One X, thanks to a mix of Microsoft's custom hardware design and slow release of specs. This build is a fairly decent compromise between Xbox One X's main features and the cost of PC components. It runs games in 4K at a minimum of 30 fps on a Medium graphics setting, supports HDR, and plays optical discs."

--------------------------

As for their own conclusion of their $720 build:

"However, it's more expensive than an Xbox One X by $212 (or more, if you're bad about filing mail-in rebates). It lacks support for 4K UHD Blu-Ray discs. It uses a GPU that's still inflated in price, so currently you'll have to shell out more than MSRP or buy a graphics card with less memory. (For example, Nvidia's 6GB GTX 1060 instead of a 8GB Radeon RX 580.) It doesn't have built-in Wi-Fi support. It's not nearly as compact or small. And though I purposely left a controller off the build list (for PC gaming, a keyboard and mouse suffice just fine), you'll need to factor in another $15 to $60 if it's a must-have."

So yeah, 4k at medium settings, not quite ultra like what the majority of X games are running.

---------------

So lets bump that up to a $940 PC

"This upgraded rig nails the Xbox One X's main features: It should run games in 4K at a minimum of 30 fps on a Medium graphics setting, support HDR, and play 4K UHD optical discs.
However, like the first build in this article, it has its downsides. First of all, if you build this PC at this very moment, you'll pay an inflated cost for that RX 580 plus the RAM. This system is also much more expensive than the Xbox One X. At $940, you could buy the Xbox One X almost twice over."

Now we're close to $1000 for 4k guaranteed medium settings

------------------


Page 2 they show their builds trying to run games such as Gears 4 4k on ultra they couldn't even lock the frame rate at 30.

dracula
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12-Nov(#61)
I don't have an xbox one x(I have pc, xbox one, and switch). Are you really getting 60 frames/second on the cpu(or gpu) intensive games? how are the load times for games like witcher 3?
dustin11
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12-Nov(#62)
The devs typically choose 60fps or 4k, one of the only games that does 60fps @ 4k right now is Forza 7 and I think maybe one or two others, but the console has been out for less than a week so we'll probably end up seeing more in the future. I load all my games off a 7200rpm external, so I don't notice a difference either way but the UI is much faster now then with the OG X1's 5200rpm. I haven't played Witcher 3 yet so I can't comment on the load times. I read an article a few days back about the game hitting 60fps (or close to) on the X without a patch though, so I think the engine auto-scales to the hardware its being played on.
six
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12-Nov(#63)
dracula wrote:
> I don't have an xbox one x(I have pc, xbox one, and switch). Are you really getting
> 60 frames/second on the cpu(or gpu) intensive games? how are the load times for
> games like witcher 3?
The witcher 3 is like 30-45 seconds while before was like two minutes.
dracula
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12-Nov(#64)
six wrote:
> dracula wrote:
>> I don't have an xbox one x(I have pc, xbox one, and switch). Are you really getting
>> 60 frames/second on the cpu(or gpu) intensive games? how are the load times for
>> games like witcher 3?
> The witcher 3 is like 30-45 seconds while before was like two minutes.

That is a LOT better. That isn't bad at all. How do games like fallout 4 and witcher 3 play on ps4(either the new version or the old)?
proudtobelatino
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* 16-Nov(#65)
dracula wrote:
> I don't have an xbox one x(I have pc, xbox one, and switch). Are you really getting
> 60 frames/second on the cpu(or gpu) intensive games? how are the load times for
> games like witcher 3?

You know you don't need a xbox to play xbox exclusives right? you can play them on your PC.
dustin11
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16-Nov(#66)
Yeah, we went through that already a few posts above.
KrownKlown
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19-Nov(#67)
I saw both this and the switch (both colors) available in store. There were at least 3 of the at walmart. Maybe when they release the xbox one x slim I might pick it up, but Ill hold off for now.

Topic   Xbox One X Scorpio Preorders at Target - SOLD OUT