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Topic   Las Vegas Shooting @ Outdoor Concert

shadyfozzie
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2-Oct(#1)
This topic had many older posts which were moved here:

http://gametz.com/Politics/las-vegas-shooting-outd...


http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooter...


Dustin
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5-Oct(#2)
Fake news. People love us.
theJaw
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5-Oct(#3)
Scots wrote:
> HAHAHA - I don't accept your opinion, but I accept that you are wrong.
>
> You are by definition a bigot. I might be too. It's not a punchline - it's just a
> definition. It's all good!

Yah I'm intolerant to your crapty absolutes and baseless beliefs. Like people with an active thought process would be.

I'm not intolerant to people peacefully living their lives, doing nothing to you but offending your religious beliefs for wanting to be a girl when they're a boy. (Here comes a top notch 80s style girlboy joke, I can see it coming).
Feeb
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5-Oct(#4)
You guys are actually pretty fun.
theJaw
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5-Oct(#5)
Dustin wrote:
> Fake news. People love us.

Keep derailing the thread about gun control after the worst mass shooting in America for your LOL REAL FUNNY vanity jokes. You DEFINITELY seem like you care about the victims of this tragedy and not just about pushing the conversation as far away from the conservative ideals that aided in their deaths as possible! yes
Dustin
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5-Oct(#6)
Feeb wrote:
> You guys are actually pretty fun.

I enjoy your presence as well
Scots
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5-Oct(#7)
I, on the other hand, am tolerant of your feelings-based, ridiculous outlooks on certain things, and non-sensical opinions on other things.

I refuse to allow you to drag me into your hate game.
Feeb
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5-Oct(#8)
I feel a triggering is afoot. Eerbody drink a couple beers.
theJaw
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5-Oct(#9)
There should be better regulations on guns and the big ones should be taken back because people die an awful lot due to them.

You guys done jerking yourselves off with your deflections or...?
Dustin
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5-Oct(#10)
theJAwwww wrote:
> Dustin wrote:
>> Fake news. People love us.
>
> Keep derailing the thread about gun control after the worst mass shooting in America
> for your LOL REAL FUNNY vanity jokes. You DEFINITELY seem like you care about the
> victims of this tragedy and not just about pushing the conversation as far away from
> the conservative ideals that aided in their deaths as possible! yes

Now you're just being a dick. You know my stance on gun issues. We've talked about it many times. You also know I'm greatly in the minority amongst gun enthusiasts in the way that I too feel like increased measures need to be taken. So don't even try that bullcrap with me.
theJaw
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* 5-Oct(#11)
Dustin wrote:
> theJAwwww wrote:
>> Dustin wrote:
> |>> Fake news. People love us.
>>
>> Keep derailing the thread about gun control after the worst mass shooting in America
>> for your LOL REAL FUNNY vanity jokes. You DEFINITELY seem like you care about
> the
>> victims of this tragedy and not just about pushing the conversation as far away
> from
>> the conservative ideals that aided in their deaths as possible! yes
>
> Now you're just being a dick. You know my stance on gun issues. We've talked about
> it many times. You also know I'm greatly in the minority amongst gun enthusiasts
> in the way that I too feel like increased measures need to be taken. So don't even
> try that bullcrap with me.

Great. That doesn't change the fact that you're in the THREAD ABOUT IT, burying an actual discussion going on in the name of trolling. If you don't want to come off like a jackass, don't act like one.

"Dude you know I'll talk to you like a human in PM but im GOING to be the most bro'd out butt-hole and just start derailing the thread with jokes if you share your opinion, don't be a dick!"

It's not the situation to flex your funny muscle just to derail the conversation so that people will stop criticizing the state of the Conservative party. It's blatant deflection. If you feel strongly enough about this, speak up. Don't add to the crap show because the opinions hurt your right wing pride.
Scots
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5-Oct(#12)
lol
Dustin
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5-Oct(#13)
Ok sorry for derailing the thread. You can go back to insulting nines now. That'll get us somewhere.
theJaw
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* 5-Oct(#14)
Oh stop playing white knight, you're not acting like a dick because mean old Jaw was criticizing nines' opinions - you're just being a dick.

I didn't even insult nines, you're just offended because I criticized the baseless conservative bullcrap he posted. I referred to his content and the people who swear by it because propaganda (actual propaganda, not the actual facts you guys have been claiming as propaganda) deserves the critique. Also, him and I talked it out so you can stop being butthurt by proxy when you very obviously act just as crapty to anyone who disagrees with you on a fairly consistent basis.
Dustin
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5-Oct(#15)
yes
Scots
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5-Oct(#16)
bump
Feeb
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5-Oct(#17)
Lol.
Mexico
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5-Oct(#18)
Feeb wrote:
> To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily fromNarodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick and Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existencial catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools... how I pity them. 😂 And yes by the way, I DO have a Rick and Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

Wow
Feeb
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5-Oct(#19)
Woah. I DO NOT EVEN REMEMBER typing that. Never watched rick and Morty either.

Too much beer I guess.
Karaiya
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6-Oct(#20)
Dustin wrote:
> FACT - gender is biological
This is not correct.
Karaiya
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6-Oct(#21)
Scots wrote:
> It is just as reasonable to identify as Chinese if I'm not Chinese as it is to identify
> as a woman if I am a man.

Its not. You're making excuses.
Karaiya
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6-Oct(#22)
Im sad because I dont know who has dicks anymore!!!
Scots
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6-Oct(#23)
Karaiya wrote:
> Scots wrote:
>> It is just as reasonable to identify as Chinese if I'm not Chinese as it is to
> identify
>> as a woman if I am a man.
>
> Its not. You're making excuses.

Bigot
Karaiya
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* 6-Oct(#24)
Scots wrote:
> Karaiya wrote:
>> Scots wrote:
> |>> It is just as reasonable to identify as Chinese if I'm not Chinese as it is to
>> identify
> |>> as a woman if I am a man.
>>
>> Its not. You're making excuses.
>
> Bigot

Wah. I don't understand psychiatric diagnosis. Everyone is a bigot.
Scots
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6-Oct(#25)
Karaiya wrote:

> Everyone is a bigot.

Yes - common ground!
Karaiya
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6-Oct(#26)
Scots wrote:
> Karaiya wrote:
>
>> Everyone is a bigot.
>
> Yes - common ground!

*stomps feet* But I wanna be a minority too!!!!!
Feeb
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6-Oct(#27)
Did you know that female chickens can be phenotypically male?
DiamondDave
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6-Oct(#28)
DSM-5's never been wrong before!
Scots
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6-Oct(#29)
Karaiya wrote:
> Scots wrote:
>> Karaiya wrote:
>>
> |>> Everyone is a bigot.
>>
>> Yes - common ground!
>
> *stomps feet* But I wanna be a minority too!!!!!

We're all bigots AND minorities.
Dustin
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6-Oct(#30)
Karaiya wrote:
> Dustin wrote:
>> FACT - gender is biological
> This is not correct.

Yes huh.
Karaiya
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6-Oct(#31)
Scots wrote:
> Karaiya wrote:
>> Scots wrote:
> |>> Karaiya wrote:
> |>>
>> |>> Everyone is a bigot.
> |>>
> |>> Yes - common ground!
>>
>> *stomps feet* But I wanna be a minority too!!!!!
>
> We're all bigots AND minorities.

At this point, yes. Fudge it.
Dustin
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6-Oct(#32)
If you agree with the fact that gender is biological it automatically makes you a bigot against trans people. But if you agree with the non-fact that gender isn't biological then it automatically makes you a bigot against people who aren't trans.
Scots
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6-Oct(#33)
Karaiya wrote:
> Scots wrote:
>> Karaiya wrote:
> |>> Scots wrote:
>> |>> Karaiya wrote:
>> |>>
> |>> |>> Everyone is a bigot.
>> |>>
>> |>> Yes - common ground!
> |>>
> |>> *stomps feet* But I wanna be a minority too!!!!!
>>
>> We're all bigots AND minorities.
>
> At this point, yes. Fudge it.

image
DiamondDave
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6-Oct(#34)
image
hermaphrodites
Feeb
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6-Oct(#35)
Chickens know where to use the bathroom naturally.
Scots
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6-Oct(#36)
This is the image that CNN showed in the animation they published to demonstrate how bump stocks work. This is part of the problem when people want to have a legitimate discussion on guns. The media and gun control advocates make absolutely zero effort to be remotely accurate or knowledgeable about anything related. They just pump out scary looking stuff and look for the retweets to spread the message.

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Dustin
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6-Oct(#37)
lol, no bumpfire stock in sight.
Scots
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6-Oct(#38)
No, but at least they got the optics, suppressor, and grenade launcher.
DiamondDave
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6-Oct(#39)
lol, I was gonna say, how the fudge would the bullets transfer from ...the top chamber to the bottom, they're complete different sizes too, what do they fire out in a cone??
Mexico
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6-Oct(#40)
I agree with the award winning investigative journalist at cbs that we should ban automatic rounds

http://www.dailywire.com/news/21978/fake-news-cbs-...
DiamondDave
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6-Oct(#41)
loles
Feeb
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6-Oct(#42)
Scots wrote:
> This is the image that CNN showed in the animation they published to demonstrate
> how bump stocks work. This is part of the problem when people want to have a legitimate
> discussion on guns. The media and gun control advocates make absolutely zero effort
> to be remotely accurate or knowledgeable about anything related. They just pump out
> scary looking stuff and look for the retweets to spread the message.
>


That's funny. Take a trip to breitbart.com and check all the "gotcha" and fear mongering.

You're right. They want clicks and fear and anger sell them.
Karaiya
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7-Oct(#43)
#war
ft763
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* 7-Oct(#44)
Seems the stock can be seen here

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Scots
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7-Oct(#45)
Seems so.
reneeatworld
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* 7-Oct(#46)
Feeb wrote:
> Chickens know where to use the bathroom naturally.

I still don't know where to use the bathroom. Sometimes I use the toilet, sometimes my bed
tonymack21
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8-Oct(#47)
I've seen a lot of things say that's not actually a bump stock though. And that is purposely dressed out with lots of extra accessories to look extra "scary' and military. It's also mislabeled an assault rifle...AR is short for armalite not assault rifle..but the left continues to go with as it fits their agenda. Gun violence is also way down the list in terms of what kills people..even scissors are higher..but there is no agenda against them...you cant fight the government take over with scissors. There is no outcry from the left and Jimmy Kimmel's of the world to outlaw knives, cure or better treat diabetes, heart disease etc..and these all kill exponentially more people a year than other people who choose the gun as their tool. Yet these people surround themselves with guys with guns to protect them.

I love Liz, she makes a good point here. It's not a one size fits all argument..as many problems in our culture aren't.

https://youtu.be/3RsqOk_yj3Y



Karaiya
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8-Oct(#48)
Yes it is not a one size fits all kind of thing. There is mental health, the gun industry and in my opinion the culture of male violence.

Lets face it women suffer from most mental health issues and men usually steer cleat of mental health treatment. However, women are virtually never committing mass acts of violence. A serious discussion about male violence regardless of race needs to be had in the same way we discuss male propensity for rape and sexual assault.

I definitely believe that gun control is helpful but this is more than just being about guns. If we really believe "that guns dont kill people and people kill people" than lets talk about the people. Lets talk about men. We are violent and histpry and society has shown over and over that men commit atrocities like this one consistently. This is not a new phenomena it is how we raise men.

At least in America where violence is palatable and seen as entertainment. We all played with guns. I did as well as Lisa Frank stickers but Im queer but Im still masculine and I have had a penchant for violence too. We need to really come up with tools for parents to teach both young men and women about the reality of gun violence simultaneously with gun control laws that make sense and dont disenfranchise the working class folks in the rural areas that use them as tools for food and livelyhoods.

Feeb
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8-Oct(#49)
When you're arguing semantics you have no argument.
tonymack21
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8-Oct(#50)
i agree there definitely needs to be something done about the way men are being raised, which goes back sadly to many being raised in fatherless homes, without anyone showing them that you dont have to be violent and hateful to be a real man. the macho man thing is everywhere in our culture, and young boys are taught they are the only ones valued. they are the only ones women want and the only ones who seem to get anywhere. which is sad. there has long been an image that not being rambo means you are weak. i think in cultures where gun ownership is very common, and i can only use my area of texas and the south as an example as its the only place ive ever lived, that gun education is very high, and i dont know any gun owners who arent responsible and their kids are very knowledgeable about the dangers and realities.

there is a lot of evil out there sadly. males do commit the largest amount of sexual assaults but its still a small minority of the population overall, same as the ratio of gun owners to gun violence.

DiamondDave
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8-Oct(#51)
Yep, it's the single moms and not being forced to go to church and pray in school

Topic   Las Vegas Shooting @ Outdoor Concert