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Topic   USAF Academy Racism Hoax:Black Air Force cadet 'wrote race slurs' on dorm doors

dracula
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* 9-Nov(#1)
One of the cadets wrote "go home nigger" on his door and on the doors of the other black cadets to create a race hoax. This is the BLM playbook in a nutshell. Typical.

http://www.bbc.com/news/41909791

>The US Air Force Academy has said racial slurs scrawled on dormitory doors of five black cadets were by one of the supposedly targeted students.

An inquiry into the September incident found that one of the cadets admitted to writing "go home" with an epithet a dorm door, the school told US media.

The vandalism shook the campus and drew a stern rebuke from commanders.

The head of the academy drew national attention in a speech condemning the culprit's "horrible language".

Video of Lt Gen Jay Silveria scolding 1,500 students and staff was posted online after the incident and quickly went viral, drawing praise from former Vice-President Joe Biden and Senator John McCain.

"If you can't treat someone with dignity and respect," Silveria said at the time, "then get out."

On Tuesday, the Colorado school made the shocking announcement that the individual responsible for the messages was one of the students claiming to be victimised by them.

"We can confirm that one of the cadet candidates who was allegedly targeted by racist remarks written outside of their dorm room was actually responsible for the act," academy spokesman Lt Col Allen Herritage said in a statement.

"The individual admitted responsibility and this was validated by the investigation.

"Racism has no place at the academy, in any shape or form," the statement continued.

The student, who has not been identified, is no longer enrolled at the school, a source told the Colorado Springs Gazette.

The cadet "committed the act in a bizarre bid to get out of trouble he faced at the school for other misconduct", the newspaper reports.

Lt Gen Silveria, whose speech prompted calls for him to run for political office, said that despite the hoax, "those words were written, they were written, and that deserved to be addressed".

"You can never over-emphasise the need for a culture of dignity and respect - and those who don't understand those concepts, aren't welcome here."

ninesalone
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9-Nov(#2)
This happens very often and the SPLC will no doubt add it to their list to promote the false idea that this kind of racism is "prevalent."
dracula
Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 7 Reviews
* 9-Nov(#3)
Of course it happens all the time. Last year during the election cycle, a black church burned the letters "vote trump" in an arson attempt to try to say "look at how bad the racism is in america!"

They are sort of right, in that there is a huge amount of black racism(from black people).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp...

When the historic black church in Greenville, Miss., first burned last month, many, including the city mayor, speculated that the intentionally lit fire was a hate crime.

It was a particularly tense time in America, just a week before the bitterly divisive 2016 presidential election came to a close. Then-candidate and now President-elect Donald Trump campaigned on building a wall at the U.S.-Mexico border and banning Muslims from the United States -- or, at the very least, aggressively vetting Muslims seeking entry to the country. A prominent newspaper of the Ku Klux Klan offered a de facto endorsement of Trump and he secured the support of the KKK's former grand wizard, David Duke.

Among African Americans, Trump polled with low support.

All this led church and community leaders to believe that, when they found the words "Vote Trump" spray-painted on the outside of the charred, 111-year-old Hopewell Missionary Baptist Church, the fire was a political act.

[Black church torched in Mississippi, with 'Vote Trump' painted on wall]

"The animus of this election cycle combined with the potent racial history of burning black churches as a political symbol makes this event something we must not ignore," a GoFundMe page created at the time said.

But the Wednesday arrest of a man with a criminal record, 45-year-old Andrew McClinton, quickly dispelled those assumptions.

McClinton, church and law enforcement officials told the Associated Press, is an African American member of the burned church. According to authorities, the blaze was not motivated by the presidential race.

"We do not believe it was politically motivated," Mississippi Insurance Commissioner Mike Chaney, who is also the fire marshal, told the AP. "There may have been some efforts to make it appear politically motivated."

Authorities did not release a potential motive and said the investigation is ongoing.

As of now, McClinton has not been charged with a hate crime, Greenville city spokeswoman Kenya Collins told the Clarion-Ledger.

"The charges that he received today: It was not a hate crime but we do not know if the federal government will pursue that as such because we do not have a motive yet," Collins told the newspaper.

McClinton is being held at the Washington County Detention Center on a charge of first-degree arson of a place of worship, reported the Clarion-Ledger. He is scheduled to make an initial court appearance Thursday in Greenville, according to the AP. It is unclear if McClinton already has legal representation.

[The postelection hate spike: How long will it last?]

The 45-year-old man from Leland, Miss., lived about six miles away from the charred church, authorities told the Clarion-Ledger. The AP reported that McClinton's criminal record included a 1991 conviction for grand larceny, a 1997 conviction for attempted robbery and a 2004 conviction for armed robbery. For the last crime, he served eight years in prison and was released in 2012.

The Greenville church fire made national news when, on Nov. 1, authorities were called to the burning sanctuary and found the spray-painted message. Town officials, including the fire chief, the mayor and church leaders, expressed a heightened sense of grief at the sight of flames licking the building.

"I've seen a lot of things burn but when I arrived there on scene that night, it was just a different feeling," Greenville Fire Chief Rowan Brown told the Clarion-Ledger. "I'm used to seeing houses, cars. ... It was just a sad, sickening feeling because I understand how sacred a place of worship is and what it means for families to come together.

"It definitely hit a low note in my spirit when I saw it burn," he said.

[She claimed she was attacked by men who yelled 'Trump' and grabbed her hijab. Police say she lied.]

The possibility that the fire was strategically accompanied by a "Vote Trump" tag to inflame further political and racial divisiveness is not new. In recent months, alleged crimes have been committed in the name of Trump and Black Lives Matter, the victims claimed, sparking initial outrage only to be later deemed hoaxes by police.

These fabricated reports do little to advance the civil rights for which activists are fighting, they say, and instead undermine the cause.

"If you are having personal problems, want attention or need to raise awareness, crying wolf helps no one. In fact, it makes it worse," attorney and journalist Wajahat Ali wrote on Facebook after a Muslim woman in New York falsely reported that men screaming "Donald Trump!" called her a "f‑‑‑ing terrorist" and tried to rip off her hijab.

In Greenville, the circumstances were slightly different, but the swift and loud speculations of hateful motivations of a political or racial nature rocketed the story into the national spotlight, where many used the jarring details as proof that even in 2016, America still has a long way to go.

[Why racists target black churches]

A GoFundMe account raised more than $200,000 in two days, the Clarion-Ledger reported, but has since been taken down. The church was a total loss and has been demolished, authorities told the newspaper.

Two weeks after the fire, the fire chief told local media that samples taken from the burnt church were negative for flammable substances or an accelerant. Brown said it was unclear if the blaze started with a direct flame contact or from burning clothes or paper, but that it was still considered intentional in nature.

Since the fire, parishioners from Hopewell Missionary Baptist Church have been worshiping at the predominantly white First Baptist Church of Greenville, in a small chapel steps away from First Baptist's main sanctuary, reported the AP. First Baptist senior pastor James Nichols said he invited the Hopewell Missionary congregation to join his parishioners in combined worship, but bishop Clarence Green declined, hoping his 200-member congregation could maintain their own identity while their church is rebuilt.

"They opened their doors to us to stay as long as we want and do whatever we need there," Green told the AP a few weeks after the fire. "What God is doing -- it's not about race, creed or color. ... The God we serve is neither black nor white, Jew nor gentile."

[2 Mississippi churches transcend racial barriers after arson]

In an interview with the AP, both church leaders said that combining their parishioners 30 or 40 years ago may have been impossible, but that in 2016, according to Green, a "wall of hatred is being torn down through the spirit of love."

"It's been refreshing to see a new chapter in our American culture," Nichols added. "It's not just a Greenville thing."

Noid
Gold Good Trader
9-Nov(#4)
I once scribbled, "I hate you, Dad!" in chalk on my parents' front porch and tried to convince my father that my mother wrote it. In my defense, I was, like, six years old at the time. What're these guys excuses?! smiley:::dead face
dracula
Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 7 Reviews
9-Nov(#5)
These guys excuse is the race card, that is extent of it
Karaiya
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9-Nov(#6)
Devin, did we forget to tell you that its okay to be white for a 3rd day in a row?
dracula
Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 7 Reviews
9-Nov(#7)
Black lives matter Kara

I'm curious, how often do you pull these sorts of stunts in your life if ever? Do you see anything wrong with it, or do you consider making a race hoax to be "brave"?
DiamondDave
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10-Nov(#8)
Lt Gen Silveria did what he should have done. Shame that this sort of crap will, of course, absolutely discredit any actual racially-motivated attacks. And the kid who did this is a fudging retard, so it's good that he's out of the school.
Karaiya
Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
10-Nov(#9)
dracula wrote:
> Black lives matter Kara
>
> I'm curious, how often do you pull these sorts of stunts in your life if ever? Do
> you see anything wrong with it, or do you consider making a race hoax to be "brave"?

I've never done this. This is not something black folks and people of color do. And when it does, it happens less frequently than actual racist crap perpetrated by white people. Actually FBI statistics show that white people are the overwhelming perpetrators of hate crimes. This behavior is prevalent although Nines woulf like to close his eyes to it. What this Cadet did is wrong wont argue. Does nothing to help.

My question is why do you care? And if you don't, why have you made two topics discussing race recently.

Its a bit disingenuous to call me racist when I rarely make posts and discussions on the subject. I only offer counter points when the white guys bring the crap up here.
DiamondDave
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* 10-Nov(#10)
HEY, HE'S JUST ASKING QUESTIONS

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Noid
Gold Good Trader
10-Nov(#11)
DiamondDave wrote:
> HEY, HE'S JUST ASKING QUESTIONS
>

smiley:::grin laughing out loud
dracula
Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 7 Reviews
10-Nov(#12)
Karaiya wrote:
> dracula wrote:
>> Black lives matter Kara
>>
>> I'm curious, how often do you pull these sorts of stunts in your life if ever?
> Do
>> you see anything wrong with it, or do you consider making a race hoax to be "brave"?
>
> I've never done this. This is not something black folks and people of color do.
> And when it does, it happens less frequently than actual racist crap perpetrated
> by white people. Actually FBI statistics show that white people are the overwhelming
> perpetrators of hate crimes. This behavior is prevalent although Nines woulf like
> to close his eyes to it. What this Cadet did is wrong wont argue. Does nothing
> to help.
>
> My question is why do you care? And if you don't, why have you made two topics discussing
> race recently.
>
> Its a bit disingenuous to call me racist when I rarely make posts and discussions
> on the subject. I only offer counter points when the white guys bring the crap up
> here.

I just comment on the news cycle and what is going on currently, whether it is another race hoax, or sexual depravity in Hollywood.

In the past you have voiced support for BLM. As for the larger question of "why do I have a problem with BLM"? They are total racists: they ignore 90% of the problem(black people killing other black people in record numbers

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If I had come out to support an equally racist organization like the KKK, I would catch endless heat for it, and rightfully so.
Karaiya
Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
* 10-Nov(#13)
I think you are just ill-informed fam. Its all good though.
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MikeyWhoa
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11-Nov(#14)
"Equally racist organization like the KKK."

Bahahaha. Kek really does kill brain cells.

DiamondDave
GameTZ Subscriber 350 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
11-Nov(#15)
That's a pretty ridiculous statement. But it was fed to him, so you can't feel too bad.
dracula
Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 7 Reviews
11-Nov(#16)
I could have swore I already responded to this but I guess it didn't post.

We have plenty of BLM people saying we need to start killing white people. The KKK used to say that sort of thing about black people but stopped about 50 years ago. If you want to compare the KKK in 1950 to BLM in 2017, that is more of an accurate comparison, at that point, I'd say that KKK, in 1950 was more racist than BLM in 2017. The KKK in 2017 is talking about keeping confederate statues, not killing black people.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/james-di-fiore/black-...
DiamondDave
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* 11-Nov(#17)
You just linked to an article from someone who is down with BLM's objectives calling for the resignation of a head member with hateful, homicidal rhetoric. Did this somehow... escape your field of vision?

This is how it should be done. The movement BLM was simply to promote that "Black Lives Matter". The KKK movement was made to persecute, hate and kill people that did not belong to the white race. Giving the KKK a pat on the back for toning down the cross burning but not recognizing that BLM's objective is largely NOT to be racist but to bring their perceived grievances out to the forefront instead of being hidden and wanting radical elements pruned from the group seems a bit biased to me. Towards white supremacists. Huh!

BLM is not immune to criticism, but conflating them to be a hate group is, to me, pushing it. And putting them below the KKK is frankly insulting to everyone the KKK have killed in their wake, and you know it. You're just being inflammatory. But again, this isn't an original thought, you've co-opted it, it's obvious. "People don't have ideas, ideas have people." I stole that too, but gotta say, I like it more than yours.
Karaiya
Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
* 11-Nov(#18)
No need to extend yourself Dave. He is simultaneously defending the KKK with no understanding of their history and their present ideology and drawing comparisons to BLM with no understanding of their ideology and what their purpose is.

In short black activist standing for something he does not agree with equates to hate and racism. You can't logically argue with a person's who only understanding of race relations is a bar graph. He's already demonstrated inability to read thoroughly and know where is content is coming from and its focus.
dracula
Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 7 Reviews
11-Nov(#19)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fPGPTl0ipo

Not at all, I am saying the KKK was worst 60 years ago, when they actually were killing people. Now that BLM is killing people for being white, especially white officers, BLM is worse.
Karaiya
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11-Nov(#20)
^This has never happened.
DiamondDave
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* 11-Nov(#21)
dracula wrote:
>
> Not at all, I am saying the KKK was worst 60 years ago, when they actually were killing
> people. Now that BLM is killing people for being white, especially white officers,
> BLM is worse.

They're KILLING US

BLM isn't about killing cops or whites. It's not. Now repeat it until you're willing to consider it. Once you understand that, say "The KKK is not better than Black Lives Matter", and just let that circle around your head for a few moments, smell the air as if for the first time. Because right now it kinda looks like you're propping up what was designed as a hate group and vilifying what was designed as a nonviolent activist movement. It's not a good look. Not even a good think, really.

Now say, "I can criticize Black Lives Matter without propping up a hate group rooted in murder and terror" and we'll be getting somewhere. Just like how I can say "There are problem elements in the Catholic/Christian church who do terrible things in the name of God, but that does not make Christianity inherently evil or worse than the KKK". See?
dracula
Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 7 Reviews
11-Nov(#22)
Karaiya wrote:
> ^This has never happened.
>

I don't think you keep up with current events, like the shootings in Dallas last year, either that or you are just determined to believe that current events don't exist. They are pretty well documented, it isn't just coming from fox news and breitbart.com

No offense but you do this a lot, like the same as what you call your urge to ignore all of the links to homosexuality and pedophilia.
Karaiya
Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
11-Nov(#23)
Not sure what your talking about on the homosexuality thing and pedophilia. We should stick to one topic so you can keep up.

Secondly, the Dallas shooter was not a black lives matter member. His name was Micah Johnson and he didnt even like BLM and felt they weren't "radical" enough. But for an angry murderous killer social justice groups arent typicallu radical enough.
thatonedude
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* 11-Nov(#24)
Does this get you as hot and bothered Dracula?

https://www.propublica.org/article/white-supremaci...
DiamondDave
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* 11-Nov(#25)
dracula wrote:
> Karaiya wrote:
>> ^This has never happened.
>>
>
> I don't think you keep up with current events, like the shootings in Dallas last
> year, either that or you are just determined to believe that current events don't
> exist. They are pretty well documented, it isn't just coming from fox news and breitbart.com
>
> No offense but you do this a lot, like the same as what you call your urge to ignore
> all of the links to homosexuality and pedophilia.

What links? Let's run the numbers:

Gay to Straight (Men, General): 1:20
Girl vs Boy victims (General): 2:1
Boy-oriented vs Girl-oriented Pedophiles: 1:11

Assuming I ran the numbers correctly and allowing for the possibility that I made a mistake, no offense, but fudge (ha) the links. When confronting a pedophile (and of course not skewing the data in absurd ways to make your argument), gun to your head to call it, looks like 10 out of 11 times you're taking one to the dome, using your classifications on seuxality. That aside you're kinda ignoring the fact that someone attracted to small children has nothing to do with a homosexual OR heterosexual orientation, because homosexual males are into... MEN. Not kids.
Feeb
GameTZ Subscriber Double Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
11-Nov(#26)
The only gay pedos I've heard of are the ancient Greeks, Spacey and Milo. The rest of em seem to stick it anywhere it will fit.
Karaiya
Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
11-Nov(#27)
Hes convinced homosexuality and pedophilia or one and the same. That one is cause for the other and maybe results in the affliction of people being victims of the latter and turning into the former.

thatonedude
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11-Nov(#28)
We could ask ol' Dennis Hastert if being a pedo is connected to homosexuality.
Feeb
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11-Nov(#29)
Not to be confused with Mr. Belding.
dracula
Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 7 Reviews
13-Nov(#30)
DiamondDave wrote:
> dracula wrote:
>> Karaiya wrote:
> |>> ^This has never happened.
> |>>
>>
>> I don't think you keep up with current events, like the shootings in Dallas last
>> year, either that or you are just determined to believe that current events don't
>> exist. They are pretty well documented, it isn't just coming from fox news and
> breitbart.com
>>
>> No offense but you do this a lot, like the same as what you call your urge to
> ignore
>> all of the links to homosexuality and pedophilia.
>
> What links? Let's run the numbers:
>
> Gay to Straight (Men, General): 1:20
> Girl vs Boy victims (General): 2:1
> Boy-oriented vs Girl-oriented Pedophiles: 1:11
>
> Assuming I ran the numbers correctly and allowing for the possibility that I made
> a mistake, no offense, but fudge (ha) the links. When confronting a pedophile (and
> of course not skewing the data in absurd ways to make your argument), gun to your
> head to call it, looks like 10 out of 11 times you're taking one to the dome, using
> your classifications on seuxality.

Factor in that gays make of 3% of the population and if I am reading your numbers correctly, they are doing more than 3% of the molesting. no?

And where are you getting this? I dug around on the google for maybe 30 seconds just now but it is difficult to find anything that isn't heavily biased for one side or the other.

Topic   USAF Academy Racism Hoax:Black Air Force cadet 'wrote race slurs' on dorm doors