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Topic   Is the Switch worth it?

ft763
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26-Jan-2018(#1)
I'm in a quandary about getting it. How good is the battery life? I know it generally depends on the game graphics (GG with BotW or Skyrim or Doom etc but Minecraft has a CRAPLOAD of battery) so how long does it last with Monster Hunter? That's the main reason behind getting one...
Scott
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30-Jan-2018(#41)
I think it's totally reasonable for somebody who has chosen not to buy a Switch to share their perspective on why they haven't. But, it's also perfectly reasonable for others to offer counterpoints to that perspective.

dustin11
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30-Jan-2018(#42)
Dustin wrote:
> dustin11 wrote:
>> I guess the question is; does the OP own a Wii U?
>
> There's like 7 people that own a Wii U.

Exactly. For those who still own one, and have friends who still play regularly on it, then I could see the reservations of now being able to justify buying the Switch. But if you don't own a Wii U, then there are more than enough reasons to buy the Switch.
benstylus
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30-Jan-2018(#43)
i own a switch and a Wii U.

from my perspective, the Switch isn't a must-buy at the moment if you are worried about getting your money's worth.
A used Wii U plus all the relevant Wii U games either now on switch or being ported will cost about as much as just the switch console.

the only thing I think the switch has the advantage on right now is the portability, which is a non-issue for me.

sure if you buy the wii u, you don't get to play odyssey. But you have super mario 3d world, and galaxy 1 and 2 available, which are each every bit as good.
ft763
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* 30-Jan-2018(#44)
Seems there's a crapload of arguments started over the switch.

Anyways

dustin11 wrote:
> I guess the question is; does the OP own a Wii U?

I don't have one. But at EB games I was asking the counter if the switch was worth getting. Thus this topic.
benstylus
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30-Jan-2018(#45)
ft763 wrote:
> Seems there's a crapload of arguments started over the switch.
>
> Anyways
>
> dustin11 wrote:
>> I guess the question is; does the OP own a Wii U?
>
> I don't have one. But at EB games I was asking the counter if the switch was worth
> getting. Thus this topic.
>

In the end, whether it's worth it or not is a very personal thing.

For some people it will be the must have console of the ages, for others, they may not care one whit.

I do believe you have enough info in this thread to make an appropriate decision on whether it is right for you right now.
Heavyd814life
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30-Jan-2018(#46)
benstylus wrote:
> ft763 wrote:
>> Seems there's a crapload of arguments started over the switch.
>>
>> Anyways
>>
>> dustin11 wrote:
> |>> I guess the question is; does the OP own a Wii U?
>>
>> I don't have one. But at EB games I was asking the counter if the switch was worth
>> getting. Thus this topic.
>>
>
> In the end, whether it's worth it or not is a very personal thing.
>
> For some people it will be the must have console of the ages, for others, they may
> not care one whit.
>
> I do believe you have enough info in this thread to make an appropriate decision
> on whether it is right for you right now.

Yup.

dustin11
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30-Jan-2018(#47)
ft763 wrote:
> Seems there's a crapload of arguments started over the switch.
>
> Anyways
>
> dustin11 wrote:
>> I guess the question is; does the OP own a Wii U?
>
> I don't have one. But at EB games I was asking the counter if the switch was worth
> getting. Thus this topic.
>

Well, if you don't have a Wii U, and thus don't have access to MK8 or BotW, then I would say that the Switch is definitely worth it. The argument of the Switch not being worth it because you can play "X" game on the Wii U become invalid if you don't own said Wii U.
ft763
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30-Jan-2018(#48)
Well thank you so much. But in the first place I wasn't even stating that the switch isn't worth getting because I can play (insert game here) on the Wii U.
dustin11
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30-Jan-2018(#49)
I know you weren't, but that's one counter argument that I've seen as to why you can't add MK8 and BotW to the list of reasons to own a Switch.
ft763
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* 30-Jan-2018(#50)
Like I said, it's only the hefty price tag that makes me indecisive...

I DO adore games of that sort, thanks again. But the main problem is the hefty price tag...almost $500 AU.
MrBean
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30-Jan-2018(#51)
dustin11 wrote:
> Rabbids was one of the best games I played last year and probably the biggest surprise
> for me this decade. I thought it was going to be meh but it turned out to be terrific.
>

Agreed, loved it.
Admiral
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31-Jan-2018(#52)
benstylus wrote:
> A used Wii U plus all the relevant Wii U games either now on switch or being ported
> will cost about as much as just the switch console.

PLUS....IMO, get the Wii U now while the systems and games are still available and somewhat affordable. This was a poorly selling console (~14 mil....just slightly more than a TG16 and Master System!) when compared to other Nintendo systems - and we all know Nintendo systems are sought after, sometimes pricey, and harder to find as time goes on. Same goes for the games yes Even the N64, which sold 3x as much as the Wii U, can be

Not to mention, those tablets are going to break more and more as time passes.
dustin11
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31-Jan-2018(#53)
GCN is still easily bought for like $20-30. There are some Nintendo consoles that don't really fetch that much money. I would actually be willing to bet that if you buy the Wii U now then you're buying it at as much as its going to be from now on. N64 is cheap, GCN is cheap, Wii is cheap, etc..... Only one that fetches a high price is the Virtual Boy and possibly the GB Micro.
dustin11
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31-Jan-2018(#54)
Isn't the Switch region free? If so, couldn't you just buy a cheaper US model and have it shipped to you rather than paying the premium of buying it in your own country?
Admiral
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31-Jan-2018(#55)
dustin11 wrote:
> GCN is still easily bought for like $20-30. There are some Nintendo consoles that
> don't really fetch that much money. I would actually be willing to bet that if you
> buy the Wii U now then you're buying it at as much as its going to be from now on.
> N64 is cheap, GCN is cheap, Wii is cheap, etc..... Only one that fetches a high price
> is the Virtual Boy and possibly the GB Micro.

Ehhhhhh, you are probably right about the console itself. If Gamestop clearances them out, I can see the system dropping in price. But I can definitely see the games going up quickly once you can't find them in store.

The N64 is rising in price, and the GC/Wii are not really comparable IMO because they both had successors that were backwards compatible, which made those systems near worthless.

Similar to how PS2's are still worth a little bit, since many PS3's don't play PS2 games - but PS1's can be had for a song.
dustin11
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31-Jan-2018(#56)
LOL, PS2s are some of the cheapest consoles you can buy. I see them all the time for $40 with 10 games. They're practically free. DCs are cheap as well (~$40) and even Saturns only fetch $50-100. SNES still does okay though, around Saturn prices and PS1s are super cheap as well.

Heres what they're going for locally for me right now:

SNES: $55
N64: $50
GCN: $35
Wii: $30
Wii U: $140

PS1: $10
PS2: $30
PS3: $$60

Genesis: $20
Saturn: $70
Dreamcast $60

Consoles drop in price like crazy unless they're some weird kind of 1-off like the CDX or one of those rare colored variations. Wii U won't maintain its current price and will continue to drop.
Admiral
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31-Jan-2018(#57)
Keep in mind though that those other systems could be had for SUPER cheap in store at the end of their life. There is a hardcore Wii U base, and stores aren't lowering prices on anything yet. Isn't that a little strange?

I think the Wii U is a little different for some reason. It just doesn't seem like the same old "failure of a system being reduced to clear stock" situation like we normally see.
dustin11
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31-Jan-2018(#58)
That's because the Wii U costs Nintendo a ton of money to produce so it isn't cheap for the stores to buy them. Once its in the resale market then what it cost to produce no longer matters and rarity/desirability takes over, and if the Switch is getting most of the Wii U's library, as well as better versions of those games, then that makes the Wii U irradiant and not worth owning and a resulting price free fall soon follows. 14-15 million won't make it rare enough to maintain 2nd hand value, not for probably 20-30 years at least. Don't get me wrong, I'm not selling mine every, but spending the money right now at a high point rather than applying towards the Switch would be a little crazy.
Admiral
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31-Jan-2018(#59)
I'll agree with you to a certain extent if we're talking about the console...


but I think the Wii U games - especially the great ones that are cheap-ish - will be worth a good amount at some point. Kind of like the Dreamcast.

This IS a Nintendo system we're talking about.
dustin11
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31-Jan-2018(#60)
Admiral wrote:
> I'll agree with you to a certain extent if we're talking about the console...
>
>
> but I think the Wii U games - especially the great ones that are cheap-ish - will
> be worth a good amount at some point. Kind of like the Dreamcast.
>
> This IS a Nintendo system we're talking about.

Yup, I agree. Which is why I went out and bought a bunch of them new and am keeping them sealed smile

Starfox Zero and Tokyo Mirage Sessions were my previous two.
tonymack21
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31-Jan-2018(#61)
im thinking in the future the gamepads are going to be the problem with wii u? if that goes down you're hurting in a lot of games and at some point Nintendo may stop working on them? someone will work on them but imagine what they could charge.

dustin11
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31-Jan-2018(#62)
It will be like the N64 joysticks. Hopefully some 3rd party will make them, all though who knows how much they would have to charge if they're not making them in large enough numbers to keep the price reasonable.
Admiral
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31-Jan-2018(#63)
I actually still have a sealed Zelda Windwaker HD System bundle...It's going for $650ish on Amazon, so it's tempting me to sell it - but I think once these systems start breaking, people are going to be begging for a fresh new gamepad.
dustin11
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31-Jan-2018(#64)
That thing will skyrocket in price in a few years. A sealed Wii U Zelda console will continue to climb in value for a while.
ft763
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31-Jan-2018(#65)
dustin11 wrote:
> LOL, PS2s are some of the cheapest consoles you can buy. I see them all the time
> for $40 with 10 games. They're practically free. DCs are cheap as well (~$40) and
> even Saturns only fetch $50-100. SNES still does okay though, around Saturn prices
> and PS1s are super cheap as well.
>
> Heres what they're going for locally for me right now:
>
> SNES: $55
> N64: $50
> GCN: $35
> Wii: $30
> Wii U: $140
>
> PS1: $10
> PS2: $30
> PS3: $$60
>
> Genesis: $20
> Saturn: $70
> Dreamcast $60
>
> Consoles drop in price like crazy unless they're some weird kind of 1-off like the
> CDX or one of those rare colored variations. Wii U won't maintain its current price
> and will continue to drop.

What about a drop in the switch price? When do you estimate THAT will happen, if ever?
DiamondDave
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31-Jan-2018(#66)
tomorrow
dustin11
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31-Jan-2018(#67)
ft763 wrote:
> dustin11 wrote:
>> LOL, PS2s are some of the cheapest consoles you can buy. I see them all the time
>> for $40 with 10 games. They're practically free. DCs are cheap as well (~$40)
> and
>> even Saturns only fetch $50-100. SNES still does okay though, around Saturn prices
>> and PS1s are super cheap as well.
>>
>> Heres what they're going for locally for me right now:
>>
>> SNES: $55
>> N64: $50
>> GCN: $35
>> Wii: $30
>> Wii U: $140
>>
>> PS1: $10
>> PS2: $30
>> PS3: $$60
>>
>> Genesis: $20
>> Saturn: $70
>> Dreamcast $60
>>
>> Consoles drop in price like crazy unless they're some weird kind of 1-off like
> the
>> CDX or one of those rare colored variations. Wii U won't maintain its current
> price
>> and will continue to drop.
>
> What about a drop in the switch price? When do you estimate THAT will happen, if
> ever?

Hard to say. Wii U was an all around weird system and difficult to predict. Probably not until Game Stop isn't selling used consoles for $190 though.
ft763
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31-Jan-2018(#68)
Hmm yeah, I might just get it at full price despite the hefty cost.
dustin11
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31-Jan-2018(#69)
Wii U has a fantastic library. Very overlooked.
Admiral
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1-Feb-2018(#70)
For me, the Wii U blows away the N64. It's right up there with the Wii and Gamecube, maybe slightly behind them in terms of AA-AAA titles in it's library.

If not for nostalgia, I'd probably be close to putting it past the NES too TBH.

Nothing beats the SNES though.
dustin11
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1-Feb-2018(#71)
I would put it above the GCN. So many cool titles on the Wii U like Captain Toad that just had you playing with a huge stupid smile on your face.
Scott
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1-Feb-2018(#72)
Admiral wrote:
> For me, the Wii U blows away the N64. It's right up there with the Wii and Gamecube,
> maybe slightly behind them in terms of AA-AAA titles in it's library.
>
> If not for nostalgia, I'd probably be close to putting it past the NES too TBH.
>
> Nothing beats the SNES though.

Wii U is 2nd to only the SNES, for me.

SNES
Wii U
NES
GC
N64

The Switch is off to such a strong start, I imagine it will at least pass the Wii U when all is said and done, but maybe even SNES shock

dustin11
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1-Feb-2018(#73)
Wii U games are BOGO free at Target starting on the 4th of this month.
tonymack21
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* 1-Feb-2018(#74)
Scott wrote:
> Admiral wrote:
>> For me, the Wii U blows away the N64. It's right up there with the Wii and Gamecube,
>> maybe slightly behind them in terms of AA-AAA titles in it's library.
>>
>> If not for nostalgia, I'd probably be close to putting it past the NES too TBH.
>>
>> Nothing beats the SNES though.
>
> Wii U is 2nd to only the SNES, for me.
>
> SNES
> Wii U
> NES
> GC
> N64
>
> The Switch is off to such a strong start, I imagine it will at least pass the Wii
> U when all is said and done, but maybe even SNES shock
>
>
I think that would be my list too, though I do have some pretty strong childhood memories of the NES, and on some days would put it at 2 behind snes, the nostalgia is so strong, but the practice of playing nes games now is harder for me. but if we are talking quality and of the library especially I think id go with that list too, but switch def has the real potential more than anything since the snes to eclipse the snes.


Scott
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1-Feb-2018(#75)
Yeah, my ranking is mostly how good the libraries are now, but I suppose I give a small consideration for how good they were for their time.

tonymack21
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1-Feb-2018(#76)
ya at the time id probably rate nes a little higher but they were kinda the only game in town in its heyday more than the others were. my brother and I pulled the old nes out a few years back for an afternoon of childhood memories but much of it hadn't aged as well and weren't as grand as we'd remembered. ive played some snes over recent years and that one generation jump has helped the aging a lot. in a lot of ways I feel like 4th gen has aged a lot better than 5th, which is for the one that aged the worst.

dustin11
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1-Feb-2018(#77)
NES has aged terrible. I tried to play some of the games on the NES Classic and almost all of them were a lot worse than I remembered. The good ones were still Punchout and the Mario games, most of the others were pretty bad, granted I didn't play all of them. I also got that Disney Afternoon Collection thing and they were all bad with the exception of Duck Tales 1 & 2. Also, all the Mega Man games were still fantastic.
Scott
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1-Feb-2018(#78)
With the NES, I can still enjoy most of the games I enjoyed as a kid. However, I find it hard to get into an NES game I've never played before.

tonymack21
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1-Feb-2018(#79)
so much of it is so much slower than we remembered was one of our biggest observations, and modern controls will really spoil you.

dustin11
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1-Feb-2018(#80)
A lot of NES games were really short and relied on your playing enough times to memorize everything in order to complete it. That's was fine when I was a kid and had all the time it the world to play the same game over and over again, but as an adult with only limited gaming time its a pretty terrible gameplay model.
Admiral
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1-Feb-2018(#81)
Totally agree about the NES. Things like hit detection, landing on platforms, unfair difficulty, cheap hit, flickering, etc. RUIN games that maybe we would have forgiven back then.

I can't put the Wii U above the GC or Wii. Those two systems have SOOOO many amazing games. The Wii with Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 probably put it above the Wii U alone, but then you have Punchout, light gun games, RPG's, and more.

On the GC there are titles like F Zero GX, Rogue Squadron 2, Metroid Prime 1 and 2, Skies of Arcadia, Luigi's Mansion, Mario Sunshine, etc. Just not enough variety for me on the Wii U maybe? Not sure.

Topic   Is the Switch worth it?