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Topic   Xbox Series X/S Discussion Thread Microsoft Xbox Series X|S

bluemetal04
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18-Jul-2020(#1)
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Might as well get it started. Who's looking forward to it? I personally think that it could beat PS5, that is if they don't screw up. They need a basic UI, more first party titles, and focus only on gaming. They own the license to Rare games, we need to see new Conkers, Perfect Dark, Banjo Kazooie, etc. They did alright with Killer Instinct, I'll give them that, but they're sitting on a lot of games that needs remade, remastered, and sequels.
As far as I know, it's slightly more powerful than the PS5, which isn't a big deal. But what is a big deal is that it will come with more storage. XBSX will have 1TB, which I admit, is not much by today's standards. The PS5 will have 825GB, which is ridiculous. I'm guessing that the next gen games will be around 100gb or more in size on average. If that is the case, I expect the discs will be on 4k UHD blu-rays.
TalonJedi87
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14-Jan(#241)
Yeah the Gunk was pretty good. Def a game pass game tho. I couldn't see spending full price on it.
Slickriven
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14-Jan(#242)
Omno and Raji were both pretty good and short. Flynn is another solid title of shorter length.

Feeb
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14-Jan(#244)
Wendy's Twitter is pretty great.
John
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15-Jan(#245)
Indeed -- Wendy's twitter rules and that was a perfect roast. yes
Kommie
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15-Jan(#246)
I still feel like them not having co-op at launch is gonna set a precedent of releasing games half-finished/missing features and say "Hey, no one will actually buy it, they'll just GamePass it" so it'll just become normalized to release the full features later.
Feeb
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15-Jan(#247)
And the fact they've probably sold 10 million series S as next gen boxes... feels like a crap storm is brewing on the quality front.
Kommie
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15-Jan(#248)
Series S is a waste of money. Especially since they're bound to discontinue it from developers not being able to get stuff to work on it once they eventually release an actual current-gen only game.
Feeb
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15-Jan(#249)
That's definitely my concern. I only tried to play a few games on it and quickly realized I prefer the One x. It's great for what it is but a huge install base due to supply issues with other systems is mainstreaming it. Not sure that was intended.
Kommie
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15-Jan(#250)
Imagine Starfield on XsS looks like Cyberpunk did on base consoles.... What's the point?
Feeb
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15-Jan(#251)
Considering that's prolly two years away... there will be like 2-3 new models.
Kommie
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15-Jan(#252)
They'll just rush it out, but like all Bethesda games, it won't really be playable for over a year.
Archer
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15-Jan(#253)
Feeb wrote:
> Considering that's prolly two years away... there will be like 2-3 new models.

Starfield comes out this year. Guaranteed. They gave a date for it. And Bethesda does not delay games after a date is set. Its never happened. Not once. They don't announce dates until pretty late into the dev cycle. And they also don't give a fudge if a game launches broken. They've never missed a date they've given for a game.
Feeb
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15-Jan(#254)
That sounds bleak.
thatfootballguy
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16-Jan(#255)
I recently got a Series S, and it has exceeded my expectations. With the other consoles, I didn't need a disc drive, and the upscaling to 4K looks just as good as PS5. The system runs smooth with quick resume. I have no complaints. This could because I've skipped several Xbox generations, but I'm overwhelmed with good games to play on GamePass.
bonham2
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16-Jan(#256)
I agree. I just got the Series S for Game Pass, Quick Resume (which is awesome) and 1st party MS games. I have no need for a Series X at this point (maybe one day). I still intend on icing up a PS5 when I can, but for now, I'm happy with my choice.
TalonJedi87
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16-Jan(#257)
I'm about quick resume now too. It's great for older BC games too. Been using it a lot replaying the FEAR games.
SwiftJAB
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16-Jan(#258)
Glad y'all are enjoying your Series S. I really enjoyed mine. I think people will get really spoiled with quick resume.


Slickriven
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17-Jan(#259)
Here's an article with some dates of GamePass titles leaving the service. Nice to get some advance notice on these, I'll have to prioritize Outriders as it's leaving in April.

https://gamerant.com/xbox-game-pass-leak-leaving-w...

TalonJedi87
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17-Jan(#260)
Great find!
ErickRPG
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19-Jan(#261)
With blizzard/activision under Microsoft's belt. Do you think Call of Duty will show up on gamepass now? I generally enjoy shooters. But never want to pay $50+ bucks for the recent ones. I haven't played like the last 6 or 7 campaigns. That would be pretty exciting if I could play a bunch of COD campaigns without "buying" them.

Archer
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19-Jan(#262)
This wont happen for over a year. If it happens at all. It hasn't happened yet. Still has to pass approval, and they only agreed to buy them in the fiscal year of 2023. So if/when it actually happens, then probably yes, they will get added. But that wont be anytime soon.
SwiftJAB
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19-Jan(#263)
@Archer that's one opinion. On the other hand, MS & Activision/Blizzard could have good faith agreements in place that will allow them to introduce Activision/Blizzard owned titles to GP. I'm sure there are teams of people reading through contracts on already released titles that were available on any gen Xbox and PC to see what can be made available with little to no financial obligations to third parties. I suspect that there will be an announcement by June on titles that would be available on GamePass. It's possible that they also announce a slight increase in price on the subscription if they don't feel that the add-on/microtransaction revenue is enough to keep the margins where they want them.

Anxiouz
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19-Jan(#264)
It's about a year out but based on comments it sure sounds like COD is going to hit GP. The question is more about when the Activision/Blizzard titles will no longer be available on PS5.

Sony/Nintendo make their money off selling software, MS is betting big on a new approach: the subscription model. I don't know how they make that work but they now have 25M subscribers. Ignoring that people use codes and exploits to get more/free time, thats roughly 25M x $10 a month = $250M a month. Or $3B a year.

I for one won't have any issue at all paying $20-$25 a month for GP if the quality and volume of titles increases like it will with Bethesda and Activision/Blizzard. I'm paying about that for Netflix and Hulu each, and GP is saving me a helluva lot more money than those other services.
TalonJedi87
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19-Jan(#265)
Hey Microsoftivision! Bring back Tenchu.
MrBean
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19-Jan(#266)
Everyone is now chasing the reoccurring revenue model as it's clearly working with our modern age. Very few companies aren't actively trying to build this model. Microsoft is clearly leading the pack here on the gaming front, and I'm amazed the other two haven't caught up yet. Xbox ranks 3rd for me of the three systems; however, I think they have the better business model and future with what they're doing. Good chance Sony will catch up and as usual, Nintendo won't do anything --- and they have one of the best possible libraries to truly capture market share on this.

Also, I can't see a world in which MSFT turns COD into an exclusive game, there's too big of a market out there. By going exclusive, forcing others to buy Microsoft platforms, they may push those customers away. Still, on the same hand, it truly could attract them and get them to buy into their ecosystem. Random example that comes to mind is Stern going to Sirius. Massive explosion in subscribers as people will follow the content.

This is a big move, super curious to see how it plays out.
Feeb
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* 19-Jan(#267)
Definitely a big gamble on CoD on many fronts. Popularity, decreased quality, huge numbers on ps boxes, ps folks are loyal etc. Also the fact that Sony picked up lots of the talent involved in CoD as well. It's the only IP in the package that could literally make or break it. They already broke most of their other games.

Also there was a good point made here earlier- MS has got to start capturing the MSRP for their service. The loss they're likely taking on sub fee workarounds is substantial. That will be reflected in everyone's cost. Their strategy is to capture customers first but springing higher fees will likely happen.
TalonJedi87
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19-Jan(#268)
I can see them saying some corpo nonsense like "Activision games will be available on all platforms where Game Pass is accessible". Forcing Sony to become reluctant to have the Game Pass app incorporated onto the PS Store.
Feeb
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* 19-Jan(#269)
TalonJedi87 wrote:
> I can see them saying some corpo nonsense like "Activision games will be available
> on all platforms where Game Pass is accessible". Forcing Sony to become reluctant
> to have the Game Pass app incorporated onto the PS Store.

I agree. I think this is what they've been pushing for. I think the next move is lay it out and create the PS app then have talks- no go - make it public that it exists. That's putting the ball in Sony's court. So much still to hash out. I'll be honest- if an app with Xbox games existed with trophy support- huge- I'm in 100% They need to make it happen.
TalonJedi87
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19-Jan(#270)
I mean you can play Game Pass pretty much anywhere now with cloud gaming. On phones. On tablets. Heck even in Teslas
Finn
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19-Jan(#271)
Cloud gaming is ok, but even with MS behind it the lag for FPS's kind of suck. For me the point of Gamepass is the ability to download and play local. Cloud gaming is really just a feature that while there is something that might get used to show someone but then kind of forget about it. I think it is only a matter of time before there is a PS App or even a Nintendo App. Nintendo and Sony will probably end up getting a cut of the revenue all be it small.

Bleed_DukeBlue
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20-Jan(#272)
I'm all for Microsoft doing better so there's more competition in the marketplace, but buying up existing publishers with long-running titles and making them exclusive is the worst. First Starfield (which I had been looking forward to for some time now) and now probably both Elder Scrolls VI and Diablo IV (from two of my favorite franchises). Don't get me wrong. I'm still going to play them. I'm just annoyed that I have to play them on a platform I prefer less when they would have otherwise been multi-platform titles. At least Game Pass takes some of the sting out of it.
ErickRPG
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22-Jan(#273)
I like the Xbox Series X controllers so much, it makes me want to buy different colors, kind of like joycons. With these at least they are official special editions. I bought both of these.

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DarkFact
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22-Jan(#274)
That 20th Anniversary controller's hot.
MrBean
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22-Jan(#275)
If the Xbox controller was like 10% bigger, the halo elite controller would go down as my favorite controller of all time.
John
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22-Jan(#276)
I have two of that Forza controller brand new in the box... I meant to sell them off, but didn't get around to it. Dunno if they still have high value like they did for a while...
ErickRPG
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22-Jan(#277)
MrBean wrote:
> If the Xbox controller was like 10% bigger, the halo elite controller would go down
> as my favorite controller of all time.

The $200 one? Thing looks sexy, but man $200 for a controller

MrBean
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* 23-Jan(#278)
New Crash and Spyro for Xbox (potentially)

https://www.gamebyte.com/xbox-confirms-new-spyro-a...
ErickRPG
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23-Jan(#279)
If they are smart, and they've made some smart moves. COD will be multiplat, and they'll revive some oldies and put legit resources into them. And pluck a few key franchises as xbox exclusive. Crash and Spyro would be good for that.

Feeb
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23-Jan(#280)
MrBean wrote:
> New Crash and Spyro for Xbox (potentially)
>

As an "older" psx guy- lol @ crash and Spyro. I wanted FFVII and SotN. Not to be a douche- I am- but take that crap and go.
SwiftJAB
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23-Jan(#281)
Sounds like you're not a fan of platformers that might be geared towards a broader audience @feeb. That's fine. There's a ton of people that are fans and they wouldn't consider either of these series "crap".

Topic   Xbox Series X/S Discussion Thread Microsoft Xbox Series X|S