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Topic   OP Updated (4/26/2023) 2023 GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League

Heavyd814life
GameTZ Gold Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
* 4-Jan-2023(#1)
The 2023 GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League

1. HybridCRoW Current Total: 714


Top 10:
1. A Space for the Unbound - 85
2. Atomic Heart - 72
3. Dead Space - 89
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
5. Forspoken - 66
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82
8. Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened - 76
9. Story of Seasons: A Wonderful Life
10. Wild Hearts - 79

Alternates:
1. One Piece Odyssey - 74
2. SpongeBob SquarePants: The Cosmic Shake - 70


2. Archer Current Total: 568


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 72
2. Dead Island 2 - 75
3. Dead Space - 89
4. Diablo IV
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
8. Starfield
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy XVI
2. Oxenfree II: Lost Signals


3. Roko Current Total: 499


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 82
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Rise of the Ronin
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
8. Starfield
9. Tekken 8
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Pikmin 4
2. Street Fighter 6


4. SilverOwl Current Total: 490


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 72
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Forspoken - 66
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl
9. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
10. Starfield

Alternates:
1. Dead Island 2 - 75
2. Street Fighter 6


5. Best1989 Current Total: 436


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Pikmin 4
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Assassin's Creed Mirage
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82


6. Ryan Current Total: 431


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Forza Motorsport
3. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
4. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Redfall
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Street Fighter 6
2. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81


7. Heavyd814life Current Total: 430


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Final Fantasy XVI
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
5. Forza Motorsport
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Street Fighter 6
9. The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
2. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81


8. PizzaTheHutt Current Total: 429


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
5. Kerbal Space Program 2
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Street Fighter 6
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Alan Wake II
2. Skull and Bones


9. TalonJedi87 Current Total: 422


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 72
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
2. Starfield


10. Bleed_DukeBlue Current Total: 419


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 82
2. Baldur's Gate 3
3. Diablo IV
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
6. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82


11. Sailorneorune Current Total: 405


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 82
2. Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon - 80
3. Final Fantasy XVI
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
5. Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe - 80
6. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82
7. Master Detective Archives: Rain Code
8. Street Fighter 6
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
10. The Plucky Squire

Alternates:
1. Sea of Stars
2. WrestleQuest


12. Lunar Current Total: 398


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3
2. Fatal Frame: Mask of the Lunar Eclipse - 69
3. Final Fantasy XVI
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure - 83
8. The Legend of Heroes: Trails Into Reverie
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Dead Island 2 - 75
2. Wild Hearts - 79


13. SwiftJAB Current Total: 392


Top 10:
1. Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp - 82
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
3. Forspoken - 66
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
6. Kerbal Space Program 2
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
2. Dead Space - 89


14. Frank Current Total: 344


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
3. Forza Motorsport
4. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Resident Evil 4 - 93
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
8. Starfield
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
10. Unannounced Mario Movie Tie-In

Alternates:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 82
2. Theatrhythm Final Bar - 88


15. Tonymack21 Current Total: 333


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82
5. Like A Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
7. Pikmin 4
8. Starfield
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp - 82
2. Baldur's Gate 3


16. Bogo Current Total: 328


Top 10:
1. Assassin's Creed Mirage
2. Diablo IV
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
4. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
7. Metroid Prime 4
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
10. The Wolf Among Us 2

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
2. Starfield


17. BloodPuppetX Current Total: 322


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II
2. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 82
3. Dead Island 2 - 75
4. Diablo IV
5. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
6. Final Fantasy XVI
7. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Street Fighter 6
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
Alternates:
1. ONI: Road to the Mightiest Oni
2. Process of Elimination - 65


18. Boss Current Total: 266


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV
3. Final Fantasy XVI
4. Lies of P
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Resident Evil 4 - 93
7. Sea of Stars
8. Starfield
9. Street Fighter 6
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Hollow Knight: Silksong
2. Hogwarts Legacy - 84


19. EB Current Total: 263


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
4. Forza Motorsport
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Atomic Heart - 72
2. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86


20. Mattyg00013 Current Total: 263


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
6. Forza Motorsport
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
2. Pikmin 4


21. Incubus421 Current Total: 258


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV
2. Final Fantasy XVI
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Kerbal Space Program 2
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Pikmin 4
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
2. Starfield


22. Scott Current Total: 258


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV
2. Final Fantasy XVI
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
4. Forza Motorsport
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Hollow Knight: Silksong
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
8. Pikmin 4
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Sea of Stars
2. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86


23. Bonham2 Current Total: 254


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV
3. Final Fantasy XVI
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Pikmin 4
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
2. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League


24. Jbjz Current Total: 247


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II
2. Assassin's Creed Mirage
3. Diablo IV
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Hollow Knight: Silksong
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. SpongeBob SquarePants: The Cosmic Shake - 70
10. Street Fighter 6

Alternates:
1. Palworld
2. Paper Ghost Stories: Third Eye Open


25. Cevil Current Total: 235


Top 10:
1. Clive 'N' Wrench - 61
2. Diablo IV
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
6. Mina the Hollower
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Sea of Stars
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Forspoken - 66
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


26. Demonalcohol Current Total: 182


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Death Stranding 2
4. Diablo IV
5. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
6. Hades II
7. Hollow Knight: Silksong
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
2. Pikmin 4


27. 3hitcombo Current Total: 173


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV
2. Hades II
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe - 80
5. Pikmin 4
6. Redfall
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Starfield
9. Street Fighter 6
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Fitness Boxing Fist of the North Star
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


28. SupremeSarna Current Total: 170


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV
2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
3. Final Fantasy XVI
4. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Pikmin 4
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
8. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
10. The Lord of the Rings: Gollum

Alternates:
1. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
2. Street Fighter 6


29. Thatfootballguy Current Total: 170


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3
2. Diablo IV
3. Glitched
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Sea of Stars
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy XVI
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82


30. Shane12m Current Total: 168


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3
2. Final Fantasy XVI
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Sea of Stars
8. Starfield
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Resident Evil 4 - 93
2. Street Fighter 6


31. Sefjwm Current Total: 165


Top 10:
1. Animal Well
2. Baldur's Gate 3
3. Diablo IV
4. Forza Motorsport
5. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
7. Sea of Stars
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


32. benstylus Current Total: 0


Top 10:
1. 2D Metroid Remake
2. Legacy of Kain/Soul Reaver Remake
3. New Civilization Game
4. New Hyrule Warriors Game
5. New Lego Game Based on a Comic Book/Graphic Novel IP
6. New Rayman game
7. New Shantae game
8. New Tetris game
9. New Thunder Lotus Game (Creators of Spiritfarer)
10. New Wario game

Alternates:
1. New ARMS Game
2. New EA Sports Racing Game (Not F1 or WRC)


33. Metsfan718 Current Total: 0


Top 10:
1. Call of Duty: Warzone Mobile
2. Crash Team Rumble
3. Disney Illusion Island
4. MrWang And Love
5. Peppa Pig: World Adventures
6. Romancelvania
7. Star Trek: Resurgence
8. T-Rex Dinosaur Game
9. The Last Case of Benedict Fox
10. The Plucky Squire

Alternates:
1. Daydream: Forgotten Sorrow
2. Hollow Knight: Silksong



Upcoming Releases:


April:
Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - April 28

May:
Redfall - May 2
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of a Kingdom - May 12
Star Trek: Resurgence - May 23

June:
Street Fighter 6 - June 2
Diablo IV - June 6
Final Fantasy XVI - June 22
Story of Seasons: A Wonderful Life - June 27

July:
The Legend of Heroes: Trails Into Reverie - July 7
Oxenfree II: Lost Signals - July 12
Pikmin 4 - July 21

August:
Armored Core VI - August 25
Sea of Stars - August 29
Baldur’s Gate 3 - August 31

September:
Starfield - September 6



League Overview:


Welcome to Year 6 of the GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League! This is basically fantasy football with games. Each person picks 10 games and those 10 games make up your "team" for the year. The Metacritic scores for your 10 games are tallied up at the end of the year to determine your total. Highest overall score wins. You also get 2 alternate picks (these should be safe choices) just in case one of your picks gets delayed into 2024. So if you shoot for the moon with a game like Armored Core VI and it gets pushed into 2024, one of your alternates takes its place and you don't end up with 0 points for that game. The goal is to pick games that you think have a very good chance of releasing in 2023. Don't YOLO your way into a bunch of 0s lol.

The Rules:
1. No DLC or Expansions
2. No Ports or Remasters (full remakes are allowed)
3. Alternate picks can only replace games delayed into 2024. They cannot be used to replace games in your top 10 that review poorly.

The Prizes:
1st Place: A $50 Amazon Gift Card
2nd Place: A $20 Amazon Gift Card
3rd Place: A $10 Amazon Gift Card

The Participants:
1. Heavyd814life
2. DemonAlcohol
3. PizzaTheHutt
4. EB
5. TalonJedi87
6. benstylus
7. Sailorneorune
8. Bleed_DukeBlue
9. HybridCRoW
10. Incubus421
11. SwiftJAB
12. Roko
13. Thatfootballguy
14. SilverOwl
15. Shane12m
16. Frank
17. SupremeSarna
18. Cevil
19. BloodPuppetX
20. Sefjwm
21. Ryan
22. Bogo
23. Boss
24. Archer
25. Scott
26. Lunar
27. Tonymack21
28. Mattyg00013
29. Bonham2
30. Metsfan718
31. Best1989
32. 3hitcombo
33. Jbjz


Previous Winners:
2022: Heavyd814life
2021: Ryan
2020: Mattyg00013 and Roko
2019: Heavyd814life
2018: Heavyd814life

Submit Your Picks Here: https://tally.so/r/mKpOyK
Deadline: January 18, 2023 at 11:59pm




Frank
GameTZ Subscriber 800 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) Has Written 11 Reviews Secret Santa
24-Feb-2023(#241)
Cevil wrote:
> Welp, Clive N Wrench getting some bad scores. This is why I have trust issues, the
> game looked so good!

I've had it wishlisted for years! That's a real shame.
HybridCRoW
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
24-Feb-2023(#242)
I guess I shot my load early this time... I'm the only one with all but 2 titles released/scored already... everyone else has spread themselves out...

Not saying I didn't try to do that, I just didn't see any titles that piqued my interest.

Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
25-Feb-2023(#243)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> 3hitcombo wrote:
>> Geez all this over Kirby
>>
>>
>
> Lol nah. This happens every year.
>
>

Yeah it seems silly to me that if we removed remakes then great games like ff7 remake (an entire overhaul for a remake) and dead space wouldn’t count. I’m all for keeping remakes as an option but not allowing remasters.
Frank
GameTZ Subscriber 800 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) Has Written 11 Reviews Secret Santa
25-Feb-2023(#244)
HybridCRoW wrote:
> I guess I shot my load early this time... I'm the only one with all but 2 titles
> released/scored already... everyone else has spread themselves out...
>
> Not saying I didn't try to do that, I just didn't see any titles that piqued my interest.
>
>

Just enjoy your time in the top spot raspberry
Boss
GameTZ Gold Subscriber 700 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (8)
26-Feb-2023(#245)
Shane12m wrote:
> Heavyd814life wrote:
>> 3hitcombo wrote:
> |>> Geez all this over Kirby
> |>>
> |>>
>>
>> Lol nah. This happens every year.
>>
>>
>
> Yeah it seems silly to me that if we removed remakes then great games like ff7 remake
> (an entire overhaul for a remake) and dead space wouldn’t count. I’m all for
> keeping remakes as an option but not allowing remasters.


That's how it is now.
benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
* 26-Feb-2023(#246)
I just think it makes it a bit more complicated when determining what is a remake vs a remaster. Because people gonna argue.

If the goal is to get people to not load the list up with a bunch of proven winners, a simpler solution would be just instituting a limit of 1 or 2 remakes/remasters, and everything else has to be a brand new game.

Maybe even limit then to the alts

Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
26-Feb-2023(#247)
Boss wrote:
> Shane12m wrote:
>> Heavyd814life wrote:
> |>> 3hitcombo wrote:
>> |>> Geez all this over Kirby
>> |>>
>> |>>
> |>>
> |>> Lol nah. This happens every year.
> |>>
> |>>
>>
>> Yeah it seems silly to me that if we removed remakes then great games like ff7
> remake
>> (an entire overhaul for a remake) and dead space wouldn’t count. I’m all for
>> keeping remakes as an option but not allowing remasters.
>
>
> That's how it is now.

I know :)
Just saying we should keep it how it is
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Gold Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
27-Feb-2023(#248)
Just updated the OP with scores for Clive 'N' Wrench. It's currently at 61 on Metacritic from 7 reviews. Wanted to wait for a few more reviews before updating the OP, but I'm not sure how many reviews are going to come in for this one.

Next up sometime this week should be Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty.

Heavyd814life
GameTZ Gold Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
27-Feb-2023(#249)
benstylus wrote:
> I just think it makes it a bit more complicated when determining what is a remake
> vs a remaster. Because people gonna argue.
>
> If the goal is to get people to not load the list up with a bunch of proven winners,
> a simpler solution would be just instituting a limit of 1 or 2 remakes/remasters,
> and everything else has to be a brand new game.
>
> Maybe even limit then to the alts
>
>

See this is what I'd want to avoid. Adding more rules and qualifiers. I think that's what would make things more complicated.

As is, things are pretty clear. If a game is billed as a remake then it counts. You'll have cases like Kirby this year and Advance Wars which sparked this debate last year where the lines are blurred, but as long as a developer/publisher considers a game a remake then it qualifies under the rules.

Heavyd814life
GameTZ Gold Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
27-Feb-2023(#250)
HybridCRoW wrote:
> I guess I shot my load early this time... I'm the only one with all but 2 titles
> released/scored already... everyone else has spread themselves out...
>
> Not saying I didn't try to do that, I just didn't see any titles that piqued my interest.
>
>

Yeah, you're pretty much set. Even if your final two games get delayed, you have alts to take their place. Surprised you didn't have Zelda on your list, though. That seems like a lock to review really, really well.

Heavyd814life
GameTZ Gold Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
27-Feb-2023(#251)
Shane12m wrote:
> Heavyd814life wrote:
>> 3hitcombo wrote:
> |>> Geez all this over Kirby
> |>>
> |>>
>>
>> Lol nah. This happens every year.
>>
>>
>
> Yeah it seems silly to me that if we removed remakes then great games like ff7 remake
> (an entire overhaul for a remake) and dead space wouldn’t count. I’m all for
> keeping remakes as an option but not allowing remasters.

Yeah, this is where I am at. And it seems most people are fine with the way things are.

HybridCRoW
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
27-Feb-2023(#252)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> HybridCRoW wrote:
>> I guess I shot my load early this time... I'm the only one with all but 2 titles
>> released/scored already... everyone else has spread themselves out...
>>
>> Not saying I didn't try to do that, I just didn't see any titles that piqued my
> interest.
>>
>>
>
> Yeah, you're pretty much set. Even if your final two games get delayed, you have
> alts to take their place. Surprised you didn't have Zelda on your list, though. That
> seems like a lock to review really, really well.
>
>

I had this minor itch telling me not to put it on the list as it felt like it would be delayed again... Dunno why I didn't have that same itch about being delayed with the Sherlock Holmes one.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Gold Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
* 28-Feb-2023(#253)
Anyone else play the Wo Long demo? Just played it for about 30 mins and I have no idea how it’s going to review. I didn’t like it, but I think it’s because I’m kinda over the Nioh formula. It feels like a reskin of Nioh 2 is many ways (level design, UI, loot system, boring story, mute protagonist etc). The combat is solid, though. It feels like a mix between Nioh and Sekiro. But it’s way too easy and just doesn’t feel anywhere near as good to play as either Sekiro or the Nioh games do. Maybe I’m just a little jaded, but I think I’m gonna skip this and wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t crack 80 on Metacritic.

EDIT: Looks like it’ll be on Gamepass day 1 which is awesome for the Xbox peeps. You guys get to try it out without having to shell out $70.

Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
28-Feb-2023(#254)
Yeah, I regret adding it to my list after playing the demo.
Kommie
250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
28-Feb-2023(#255)
There was a demo awhile ago.... This is the second demo.
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
28-Feb-2023(#256)
Yeah I’m over the Nioh style myself too. If it’s just another Nioh clone it’ll be a hard pass for me.
sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
1-Mar-2023(#257)
Wolf Among Us 2 delayed into 2024, I thought I saw someone had that one.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Gold Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
1-Mar-2023(#258)
sefjwm wrote:
> Wolf Among Us 2 delayed into 2024, I thought I saw someone had that one.

Bummer. And yeah, @bogo has it on his list.

bogo
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2-Mar-2023(#259)
yeah, disappointed, but not shocked that its delayed
Shane12m
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2-Mar-2023(#260)
Wo Long currently sitting at 81 on metacritic.
Def worth a look on game pass I think
Heavyd814life
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* 2-Mar-2023(#261)
Shane12m wrote:
> Wo Long currently sitting at 81 on metacritic.
> Def worth a look on game pass I think

Yeah the fact that it's coming to Gamepass day one is pretty awesome! Glad it reviewed well. This is what I hoped for when I picked it as an alt, but I was worried after I played the demo which I didn't like.

OP is now up to date, guys. Wo Long is still at 81 from 48 reviews.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-5/wo-l...

Archer
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2-Mar-2023(#262)
I was expecting much lower based on that demo.
Kommie
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8-Mar-2023(#263)
Starfield delayed, again. Wonder if it's because of the XsS not being able to play it?
Kommie
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8-Mar-2023(#264)
So much for "all these games playable in the next months"

So, Silksong will not be this year it seems.
Archer
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8-Mar-2023(#265)
Kommie wrote:
> Starfield delayed, again. Wonder if it's because of the XsS not being able to play
> it?

Hogwarts didn't launch with an X1 or S version yet, but the X version is out. They seem to be relaxing on that rule. But then again, this is a first party title, so maybe that is the issue. Either way that is a stupid ass rule and from what a lot of devs has said its been a pain in the ass for a lot of them.
Kommie
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8-Mar-2023(#266)
Archer wrote:
> Kommie wrote:
>> Starfield delayed, again. Wonder if it's because of the XsS not being able to
> play
>> it?
>
> Hogwarts didn't launch with an X1 or S version yet, but the X version is out. They
> seem to be relaxing on that rule. But then again, this is a first party title, so
> maybe that is the issue. Either way that is a stupid ass rule and from what a lot
> of devs has said its been a pain in the ass for a lot of them.

Bethesda games aren't playable until 1-2+ years after launch anyway
TalonJedi87
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* 8-Mar-2023(#267)
Damn. They are getting the Cyberpunk treatment I see. Starfield is on my list as a back up. There goes that...did they say how long the delay was for? Into 2024 or late 2023?
Archer
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8-Mar-2023(#268)
Only a couple months, September.
But I'd bet it gets pushed into 2024 later in the year.
Kommie
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8-Mar-2023(#269)
They never had a release date, right? It was just "early 2023" I think
Archer
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8-Mar-2023(#270)
Kommie wrote:
> They never had a release date, right? It was just "early 2023" I think

On Xbox at least, the store said June 2023. But yeah I don't think they ever said an official date prior to today. Everyone just assumed June because of the Xbox store/app.
TalonJedi87
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8-Mar-2023(#271)
I just saw on IGN it says 9/6/23 is the new release date for Starfield...for now that is...
Bleed_DukeBlue
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8-Mar-2023(#272)
It originally had a release date of November 11, 2022. Then, it got delayed in May 2022 to "the first half of 2023" before this recent delay: https://twitter.com/bethesda/status/15247211327205...

Kommie wrote:
> They never had a release date, right? It was just "early 2023" I think
TalonJedi87
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8-Mar-2023(#273)
Yep, Starfield is now facing the Cyberpunk 2077 syndrome of delays.
Kommie
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8-Mar-2023(#274)
Was CP massively delayed? It certainly should have been
sefjwm
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8-Mar-2023(#275)
It was, until it wasn't and they released completely broken. Did have relatively high review scores though.
incubus421
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8-Mar-2023(#276)
Yea they delayed it like 3-4 times until the community got all up in arms about it, and then they released a broken game...and everyone got all up in arms about it...
TalonJedi87
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8-Mar-2023(#277)
And now over 2 years after its initial release it apparently plays like it should have at launch with patch 10.02828219299WTFBBQ?
Shane12m
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8-Mar-2023(#278)
I’m totally okay with a starfield September release. It’s nice to have a date now even if it’s later than anticipated. Plenty of awesome looking games coming out this year before September.

Why the comparisons to cyberpunk? Tons of games get delayed. I’m hoping that because they have Xbox money and time they are just letting the game really be special without rushing it and allowing things to be more polished
TalonJedi87
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* 8-Mar-2023(#279)
I mean let’s be real. I love Skyrim to pieces for example, but those Bethesda games are damn near by law are all buggy as heck at launch and sometimes months to years to come regardless of how many delays occur and that’s just fine. I’m sure it’ll still be fun to play like most of their games are. I’ll just be looking forward of those YouTube videos of all the funny glitches and bugs that happen post launch.
Heavyd814life
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9-Mar-2023(#280)
OP updated with scores for Fatal Frame: Mask of the Lunar Eclipse. It's currently at 69 on Metacritic from 16 reviews.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-5/fata...

sefjwm
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9-Mar-2023(#281)
Suicide Squad delayed to "later"

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