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Heavyd814life
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* 4-Jan-2023(#1)
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The 2023 GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League

Gold Star Shane12m Current Total: 893


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Sea of Stars - 88
8. Starfield - 83
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Resident Evil 4 - 93
2. Street Fighter 6 - 92


Silver Star Best1989 Current Total: 887


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Pikmin 4 - 87
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Assassin's Creed Mirage - 77
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81


Bronze Star Heavyd814life Current Total: 883


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Forza Motorsport - 85
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Street Fighter 6 - 92
9. The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure - 81
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
2. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81


4. PizzaTheHutt Current Total: 880


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
5. Kerbal Space Program 2
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Street Fighter 6 - 92
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Alan Wake II - 87
2. Skull and Bones


5. Boss Current Total: 878


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Lies of P - 80
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Resident Evil 4 - 93
7. Sea of Stars - 88
8. Starfield - 83
9. Street Fighter 6 - 92
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Hollow Knight: Silksong
2. Hogwarts Legacy - 84


6. Mattyg00013 Current Total: 876


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II - 87
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
6. Forza Motorsport - 85
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
2. Pikmin 4 - 87


6. Scott Current Total: 876


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
4. Forza Motorsport - 85
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Hollow Knight: Silksong
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Pikmin 4 - 87
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Sea of Stars - 88
2. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85


6. Thatfootballguy Current Total: 876


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Glitched
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Sea of Stars - 88
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81


7. Bleed_DukeBlue Current Total: 872


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
2. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
6. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81


7. Sefjwm Current Total: 872


Top 10:
1. Animal Well
2. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Forza Motorsport - 85
5. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Sea of Stars - 88
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


8. Frank Current Total: 869


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
3. Forza Motorsport - 85
4. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Resident Evil 4 - 93
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
8. Starfield - 83
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Unannounced Mario Movie Tie-In

Alternates:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
2. Theatrhythm Final Bar - 87


9. Bonham2 Current Total: 867


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Pikmin 4 - 87
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
2. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League


10. TalonJedi87 Current Total: 863


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 70
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon - 86
2. Starfield - 83


11. Tonymack21 Current Total: 861


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
5. Like A Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name - 78
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Pikmin 4 - 87
8. Starfield - 83
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp - 82
2. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96


12. EB Current Total: 857


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
4. Forza Motorsport - 85
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Atomic Heart - 70
2. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85


13. Roko Current Total: 853


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Rise of the Ronin
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
8. Starfield - 83
9. Tekken 8
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Pikmin 4 - 87
2. Street Fighter 6 - 92


14. Lunar Current Total: 844


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Fatal Frame: Mask of the Lunar Eclipse - 68
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure - 81
8. The Legend of Heroes: Trails Into Reverie - 81
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Dead Island 2 - 73
2. Wild Hearts - 79


15. Sailorneorune Current Total: 841


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
2. Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon - 81
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe - 79
6. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
7. Master Detective Archives: Rain Code - 77
8. Street Fighter 6 - 92
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. The Plucky Squire

Alternates:
1. Sea of Stars - 88
2. WrestleQuest - 69


16. Ryan Current Total: 840


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Forza Motorsport - 85
3. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
4. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Redfall - 56
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Street Fighter 6 - 92
2. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81


17. BloodPuppetX Current Total: 839


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II - 87
2. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
3. Dead Island 2 - 73
4. Diablo IV - 86
5. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
6. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
7. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Street Fighter 6 - 92
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. ONI: Road to the Mightiest Oni - 73
2. Process of Elimination - 70


18. SilverOwl Current Total: 833


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 70
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Forspoken - 64
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl
9. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
10. Starfield - 83

Alternates:
1. Dead Island 2 - 73
2. Street Fighter 6 - 92


19. Archer Current Total: 827


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 70
2. Dead Island 2 - 73
3. Dead Space - 89
4. Diablo IV - 86
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
8. Starfield - 83
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
2. Oxenfree II: Lost Signals - 73


20. 3hitcombo Current Total: 821


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Hades II
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe - 79
5. Pikmin 4 - 87
6. Redfall - 56
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Starfield - 83
9. Street Fighter 6 - 92
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Fitness Boxing Fist of the North Star - 65
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


21. Cevil Current Total: 813


Top 10:
1. Clive 'N' Wrench - 52
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
6. Mina the Hollower
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Sea of Stars - 88
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Forspoken - 64
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


22. Incubus421 Current Total: 786


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Kerbal Space Program 2
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Pikmin 4 - 87
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
2. Starfield - 83


23. HybridCRoW Current Total: 779


Top 10:
1. A Space for the Unbound - 85
2. Atomic Heart - 70
3. Dead Space - 89
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Forspoken - 64
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
8. Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened - 75
9. Story of Seasons: A Wonderful Life - 72
10. Wild Hearts - 79

Alternates:
1. One Piece Odyssey - 73
2. SpongeBob SquarePants: The Cosmic Shake - 70


24. Jbjz Current Total: 766


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II - 87
2. Assassin's Creed Mirage - 77
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Hollow Knight: Silksong
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. SpongeBob SquarePants: The Cosmic Shake - 70
10. Street Fighter 6 - 92

Alternates:
1. Palworld
2. Paper Ghost Stories: Third Eye Open


25. Bogo Current Total: 759


Top 10:
1. Assassin's Creed Mirage - 77
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
4. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
7. Metroid Prime 4
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. The Wolf Among Us 2

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
2. Starfield - 83


26. SupremeSarna Current Total: 731


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Pikmin 4 - 87
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
8. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. The Lord of the Rings: Gollum - 34

Alternates:
1. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
2. Street Fighter 6 - 92


27. Demonalcohol Current Total: 720


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Death Stranding 2
4. Diablo IV - 86
5. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
6. Hades II
7. Hollow Knight: Silksong
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
2. Pikmin 4 - 87


28. SwiftJAB Current Total: 664


Top 10:
1. Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp - 82
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
3. Forspoken - 64
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
6. Kerbal Space Program 2
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
2. Dead Space - 89


29. Metsfan718 Current Total: 466


Top 10:
1. Call of Duty: Warzone Mobile
2. Crash Team Rumble - 67
3. Disney Illusion Island - 73
4. MrWang And Love
5. Peppa Pig: World Adventures - 72
6. Romancelvania - 64
7. Star Trek: Resurgence - 71
8. T-Rex Dinosaur Game
9. The Last Case of Benedict Fox - 58
10. The Plucky Squire

Alternates:
1. Daydream: Forgotten Sorrow - 61
2. Hollow Knight: Silksong


30. benstylus Current Total: 75


Top 10:
1. 2D Metroid Remake
2. Legacy of Kain/Soul Reaver Remake
3. New Civilization Game
4. New Hyrule Warriors Game
5. New Lego Game Based on a Comic Book/Graphic Novel IP
6. New Rayman game
7. New Shantae game
8. New Tetris game
9. New Thunder Lotus Game (Creators of Spiritfarer)
10. WarioWare: Move It! - 75

Alternates:
1. New ARMS Game
2. New EA Sports Racing Game (Not F1 or WRC)



Upcoming Releases:




League Overview:


Welcome to Year 6 of the GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League! This is basically fantasy football with games. Each person picks 10 games and those 10 games make up your "team" for the year. The Metacritic scores for your 10 games are tallied up at the end of the year to determine your total. Highest overall score wins. You also get 2 alternate picks (these should be safe choices) just in case one of your picks gets delayed into 2024. So if you shoot for the moon with a game like Armored Core VI and it gets pushed into 2024, one of your alternates takes its place and you don't end up with 0 points for that game. The goal is to pick games that you think have a very good chance of releasing in 2023. Don't YOLO your way into a bunch of 0s lol.

The Rules:
1. No DLC or Expansions
2. No Ports or Remasters (full remakes are allowed)
3. Alternate picks can only replace games delayed into 2024. They cannot be used to replace games in your top 10 that review poorly.

The Prizes:
1st Place: A $50 Amazon Gift Card
2nd Place: A $20 Amazon Gift Card
3rd Place: A $10 Amazon Gift Card

The Participants:
1. Heavyd814life
2. DemonAlcohol
3. PizzaTheHutt
4. EB
5. TalonJedi87
6. benstylus
7. Sailorneorune
8. Bleed_DukeBlue
9. HybridCRoW
10. Incubus421
11. SwiftJAB
12. Roko
13. Thatfootballguy
14. SilverOwl
15. Shane12m
16. Frank
17. SupremeSarna
18. Cevil
19. BloodPuppetX
20. Sefjwm
21. Ryan
22. Bogo
23. Boss
24. Archer
25. Scott
26. Lunar
27. Tonymack21
28. Mattyg00013
29. Bonham2
30. Metsfan718
31. Best1989
32. 3hitcombo
33. Jbjz


Previous Winners:
2022: Heavyd814life
2021: Ryan
2020: Mattyg00013 and Roko
2019: Heavyd814life
2018: Heavyd814life

Submit Your Picks Here: https://tally.so/r/mKpOyK
Deadline: January 18, 2023 at 11:59pm




bonham2
600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
* 11-May-2023(#81)
It's currently sitting at a 97 with one rebel giving it a 6/10!

79 positive reviews with 1 mixed...way to go, dude looking for clicks
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
11-May-2023(#82)
bonham2 wrote:
> It's currently sitting at a 97 with one rebel giving it a 6/10!
>
> 79 positive reviews with 1 mixed...way to go, dude looking for clicks

Haha same as botw as well, that had a rebel 60 that fans flipped over
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
11-May-2023(#83)
If it’s not at a comfy Zelda 99, it’s dead to me.
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
11-May-2023(#84)
That 60 review is terrible. There always has to be one for clicks lol
incubus421
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* 11-May-2023(#85)
I don't know, the 6/10 full review seems to have merit. Although the writer does seem to contradict himself a time or two. Still, I've felt this way about Zelda since perhaps Twilight Princess/Skyward Sword/the DS games. That is to say that the Zelda formula has perhaps exhausted itself a bit after 35 years. I know BotW was a "return to form" for many, but I'm skeptical on how much fresh new content could be added to TotK. Being called 'Zelda' shouldn't automatically warrant a 95+ score. I mean almost every single Zelda title is rated that way upon release. Can you honestly say every Zelda game is a top contender for best game all time? Skyward Sword for example is at 93 on metacritic right now, and it was probably higher at its initial release. It's not only a weak Zelda game, it's just a weak game in general. The 81 that the HD remake has is telling and more in touch with what Skyward Sword should have received initially.

https://www.gfinityesports.com/reviews/zelda-tears...
Bleed_DukeBlue
Triple Gold Good Trader
11-May-2023(#86)
Agreed. I feel like Zelda games get a fair bit of grade inflation off the name.

incubus421 wrote:
> I don't know, the 6/10 full review seems to have merit. I've felt this way about
> Zelda since perhaps Twilight Princess/Skyward Sword/the DS games. That is to say
> that the Zelda formula has perhaps exhausted itself a bit after 35 years. I know
> BotW was a "return to form" for many, but I'm skeptical on how much fresh new content
> could be added to TotK. Being called 'Zelda' shouldn't automatically warrant a 95+
> score. I mean almost every single Zelda title is rated that way upon release. Can
> you honestly say every Zelda game is a top contender for best game all time? Skyward
> Sword for example is at 93 on metacritic right now, and it was probably higher at
> its initial release. It's not only a weak Zelda game, it's just a weak game in general.
>
bogo
Triple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
11-May-2023(#87)
that 6/10 review basically reads: "If you loved BotW, you'll love TotK. I did not love BotW, and this game is too similar"

fair point, but I loved BotW, so I genuinely don't care lol
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
11-May-2023(#88)
Agreed too. Skyward Sword for me was nowhere near a 93. That was a 7.5 for me at best.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Gold Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) This user is on the site NOW (2 minutes ago)
11-May-2023(#89)
TalonJedi87 wrote:
> Agreed too. Skyward Sword for me was nowhere near a 93. That was a 7.5 for me at
> best.

Hold up, someone really negged this? Like someone here actually believes Skyward Sword is worthy of a 93? It's one of the most egregious Metacritic scores of all time. Right up there with FF12 which has a 92 and MGSV which has a 93. I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting. And I freaking LOVE FF12 and MGSV, but there's no world where the consensus should be that those two games are all-time greats. Same with Skyward Sword. That game is a 7 at best.

Anyway, rant over lol. Just updated the OP with scores for Tears of the Kingdom. It's still at 96 on Metacritic from 83 reviews.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/the-legend-...

TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 11-May-2023(#90)
Agreed dude. Ppl get so butt hurt when someone appears to talk against Zelda it’s ridiculous. Like I don’t think there’s a bad Zelda game out there. Some are just GOOD, not great. G-O-O-D. Definition: Not bad. And while I’m not in total agreement with someone like say Jim Stephanie Sterling about BOTW being a 7/10, I think it’s about an 8/10 for me. If it wasn’t for those damn breakable weapons ruining the pacing I’d probably would have given it higher. And if those lord awful breakable weapons are present in Tears of the Kingdom, I’ll probably score it about the same as BOTW.
sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
15-May-2023(#91)
Humanity getting a surprisingly high score wow. Don't think anyone had that one though.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Gold Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) This user is on the site NOW (2 minutes ago)
* 22-May-2023(#92)
OP updated with scores for a bunch of metsfan718's very interesting choice of games. Wouldn't have even realized that some of them were already released if not for Star Trek Resurgence which I am oddly really excited about.

A few decent scores, actually but two of the games, T-REX Dinosaur Game and MrWang And Love, which both came out all the way back in January still have zero reviews lol. Those are probably going to be 0s at the end of the year.

Hey @Frank could you please let him know he's actually not doing that badly. It'll be interesting to see how high up the list he finishes if he gets 10 games out this year.

Bleed_DukeBlue
Triple Gold Good Trader
25-May-2023(#93)
Ooh. I know at least one person had The Lord of the Rings: Gollum, and it got absolutely wrecked. 38 Metacritic average so far. I’m really glad I cancelled my pre-order even though I got a price break on Amazon for it that would have saved me $10 (as it was originally listed at $49.99). I had a bad feeling about it even though I love LOTR.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Gold Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) This user is on the site NOW (2 minutes ago)
25-May-2023(#94)
Ouch! Just updated the OP. Still at 38 from 21 reviews. Didn't even realize this was coming out already.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-5/the-...

TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
25-May-2023(#95)
I had a feeling Gollum was gonna bomb. I smell it being added to Game Pass soon enough so I can at least try that mess first hand.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Gold Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) This user is on the site NOW (2 minutes ago)
25-May-2023(#96)
Such a waste of a great IP like LotR. Just look at the success of games like Hogwarts Legacy and Spider-Man. You can print money when it's done right. Who wanted a Gollum game anyway?

Scott
GameTZ Subscriber Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
25-May-2023(#97)
IIRC, Gollum was one of the last games I narrowed out as I was slimming my list down to just 12 games lol
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
25-May-2023(#98)
Yeah, I had it last year and removed it last second this year when I looked up one of the early game play trailers. The game I removed it for got a 72 (atomic heart). And I was regretting that choice. Now I am not, lol.
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
25-May-2023(#99)
Scott wrote:
> IIRC, Gollum was one of the last games I narrowed out as I was slimming my list down
> to just 12 games lol

Dang you dodged a bullet man.
Heavyd814life
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25-May-2023(#100)
Shane12m wrote:
> Scott wrote:
>> IIRC, Gollum was one of the last games I narrowed out as I was slimming my list
> down
>> to just 12 games lol
>
> Dang you dodged a bullet man.

Yeah, for real lol

The two games I regret not having on my list this year are Spider-Man 2 and Diablo IV. Just didn’t think either one would make it out for some reason. I don’t think I really have a shot to win this year because I expect they’ll both review really well.
Shane12m
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* 25-May-2023(#101)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> Shane12m wrote:
>> Scott wrote:
> |>> IIRC, Gollum was one of the last games I narrowed out as I was slimming my list
>> down
> |>> to just 12 games lol
>>
>> Dang you dodged a bullet man.
>
> Yeah, for real lol
>
> The two games I regret not having on my list this year are Spider-Man 2 and Diablo
> IV. Just didn’t think either one would make it out for some reason. I don’t think
> I really have a shot to win this year because I expect they’ll both review really
> well.
>

You have a very solid list. I think the only think holding you back is FE engage. The upcoming games on your list should all review very well. Forza is one I totally missed on and didn’t even know was coming out, but that’s because I don’t really follow the series or Xbox in general lol

Diablo IV, I missed on because blizzard seemed to be going down hill, but seems like it’s gonna be great and I’m excited for it.
Archer
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28-May-2023(#102)
Wow. Gollum has dropped to a 36. 20 points below Redfall. Now I'm curious about this thing.
Kommie
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28-May-2023(#103)
Archer wrote:
> Wow. Gollum has dropped to a 36. 20 points below Redfall. Now I'm curious about this
> thing.

$50 curious?
TalonJedi87
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28-May-2023(#104)
Give it a month or so. It’ll be on game pass in no time.
DemonAlcohol
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28-May-2023(#105)
Watched most of Gollum on twitch. It's mostly climbing and sneaking, the two things I dislike most in video games. Lots of glitches and bugs.
Archer
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28-May-2023(#106)
Kommie wrote:
> Archer wrote:
>> Wow. Gollum has dropped to a 36. 20 points below Redfall. Now I'm curious about
> this
>> thing.
>
> $50 curious?

Hell no.
Archer
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28-May-2023(#107)
DemonAlcohol wrote:
> Watched most of Gollum on twitch. It's mostly climbing and sneaking, the two things
> I dislike most in video games. Lots of glitches and bugs.

And now I'm no longer curious, lol.
Shane12m
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30-May-2023(#108)
Street Fighter 6 is at 92 with 59 reviews. Wow
Heavyd814life
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30-May-2023(#109)
Shane12m wrote:
> Street Fighter 6 is at 92 with 59 reviews. Wow
>

Thanks for the heads up. OP updated now. It's still at 92 from 59 reviews.

I don't follow fighting games closely, but when was the last time we had a fighting game score in the 90s? And Capcom...is there a better dev out there at the moment? They can't miss!

Shane12m
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30-May-2023(#110)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> Shane12m wrote:
>> Street Fighter 6 is at 92 with 59 reviews. Wow
>>
>
> Thanks for the heads up. OP updated now. It's still at 92 from 59 reviews.
>
> I don't follow fighting games closely, but when was the last time we had a fighting
> game score in the 90s? And Capcom...is there a better dev out there at the moment?
> They can't miss!
>
>

Yeah I’m not really interested in fighting games, but this has me wanting to get it lol. Yeah, Capcom has been absolutely killing it.
Lunar
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* 30-May-2023(#111)
I played a bit of the demo, actual fighting mechanics aside(in the demo fights were running at 30fps for some reason), the overworld is basically a Final Fight 3D/Yakuza-esque game.

Very excited to play when it drops.

Archer
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* 30-May-2023(#112)
Diablo 4 not coming in quit as hot as I thought it would. Not bad numbers. But I was expecting Street Fighter 6 level of numbers. But it still has time to get plenty more reviews in and bump it up a little. Early access is on the 1st. And the game doesn't official drop until the 6th.

Currently sitting at:
88 from 44 on PC
89 from 13 on PS5
92 from 10 on XboxSX

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/diablo-iv

Also, does anyone know why opencritic numbers are always slightly higher than metacritic? They also always have more reviews. So I'm assuming that. So I would also assume they are using a lesser known review sources to get those more review/higher scores? NEVERMIND, I see. They combined all platforms into one score. They don't break it down by system. So that makes sense. I actually like that better. Instead of each system having its own review score.
PizzaTheHutt
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30-May-2023(#113)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> Shane12m wrote:
>> Street Fighter 6 is at 92 with 59 reviews. Wow
>>
> I don't follow fighting games closely, but when was the last time we had a fighting
> game score in the 90s?


The Super Smash Bros. series does it pretty consistently, but other than that I can't think of any.
Lunar
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30-May-2023(#114)
If only SSB was a fighting series wink

Heavyd814life
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30-May-2023(#115)
Archer wrote:
> Diablo 4 not coming in quit as hot as I thought it would. Not bad numbers. But I
> was expecting Street Fighter 6 level of numbers. But it still has time to get plenty
> more reviews in and bump it up a little. Early access is on the 1st. And the game
> doesn't official drop until the 6th.
>
> Currently sitting at:
> 88 from 44 on PC
> 89 from 13 on PS5
> 92 from 10 on XboxSX
>
>
> Also, does anyone know why opencritic numbers are always slightly higher than metacritic?
> They also always have more reviews. So I'm assuming that. So I would also assume
> they are using a lesser known review sources to get those more review/higher scores?
> NEVERMIND, I see. They combined all platforms into one score. They don't break it
> down by system. So that makes sense. I actually like that better. Instead of each
> system having its own review score.
>

Umm...maybe we should switch to OpenCritic moving forward? I think I like the idea of combining all the platforms into one score. Plus Metacritic has that garbage weighted system that values big websites over smaller ones.

Also, I think 88 is great for Diablo IV. It's right in line with Diablo III. It's on 22 lists so I'll get to updating the OP now. Still can't believe I didn't pick it.

PizzaTheHutt
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30-May-2023(#116)
Lunar wrote:
> If only SSB was a fighting series wink


Yeah, I was gonna add something like that to my post but didn't. I view it more as a parody of fighting games, or it's a fighting game as much as Mario Kart is a racing sim.
Archer
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30-May-2023(#117)
Heavyd814life wrote:
>
> Umm...maybe we should switch to OpenCritic moving forward? I think I like the idea
> of combining all the platforms into one score. Plus Metacritic has that garbage weighted
> system that values big websites over smaller ones.
>


I think it makes sense to switch over to them next year. They seem to have a better setup overall in my opinion.
PizzaTheHutt
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30-May-2023(#118)
For the purpose of this thread, OpenCritic might be better. But if I'm looking to purchase a game I think I'd trust Metacritic more.

For OpenCritic I'm sure there must be examples where averaging review scores of all platforms might be dragged down because of one version performing worse than the rest? Take DOOM Eternal for example, on Metacritic it has an 80 on Switch, not bad by any means. But on PC and the other consoles it is closer to 90. But then again, maybe performance issues are a non-factor to most critics, judging by how they all seemed to ignore the issues that recent Star Wars game had at launch.
sefjwm
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8-Jun-2023(#119)
Spiderman 2 Oct 2 release date woo woo
TalonJedi87
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8-Jun-2023(#120)
Sweet. This Halloween is gonna be STACKED for new gaming. Mortal Kombat 1, Spider-Man 2, Alan Wake 2, Silent Hill 2. Weeeeeeee!!!
Kommie
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11-Jun-2023(#121)
Starfield will be a locked 30 FPS on console...

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