Thread Description This thread was originally created to encourage traders here at GTZ to do more trading, especially retro related stuff. It has turned into a lot more and I am so grateful to everyone who contributed to this thread and have kept it going for nearly 6 months now. I hope this thread will continue to thrive and everyone who reads/participates in this thread will gain some value or knowledge out of it.
We will still have Trade lists up here, though it's been a while since anyone updated. I encourage everyone to look over their lists and post updates. There is also a section for gorgeous pictures of game rooms that active participants of this thread have shared. Feel free to share some pics of your collection or game room. I will be adding another section for information regarding video quality of retro gaming systems on modern displays and how to improve them. There is rather some extensive discussion regarding how to improve the display quality of retro gaming systems and if you are new to this like I am, you will find it very informative.
Old Topic Description
GTZ has become a marketplace where the most commonly traded commodity is . I want to start an effort to get some trades going and to discuss some good games perhaps you never heard of or interested in but want to discover/know more of. For example, I just got intto shmups after years of ignoring the genre and I love to discover new(to me) and rediscover old ones(Sonic Wings comes to mind).
No pressure here. Feel free to discuss anything retro. Perhaps throw out some WTTF targets and what you have to offer. I am sick of browsing people's year old Available lists.
- WTTF/WTB/LF - What you think is awesome game/series/whatever - Potential games you have up for trade - Pics of what you have/what you would love to get/what you think is the bestest awesomest game ever - Show off your latest finds/adds to your collection
Sega CD - Lords of Thunder (2-3-17) Japanese PS2 - Mushihimesama (2-15-17) Japanese Saturn - X-Men vs. Street Fighter (2-17-17) Neo Geo CD - Sonic Wings 3 (4-17-17) Red Alert (5-16-2017) Seirei Senshi Spriggan (5-17-2017) Neo Geo Heroes: Ultimate Shooting (5-19-2017) Street Fighter Alpha (6-3-2017) w/Ryu on 4 Stars image Arcade Gears Wonder 3 (7-24-2017) Kamiko (7-30-2017) w/Yamato Kamiko (7-30-2017) w/Uzume Root Letter (7-31-2017) Crossing Paths Ending Kamiko (8-4-2017) w/Hinome Ghost Sweeper Mikami (8-7-2017) Final Fight (8-13-2017) Ninja Gaiden (8-14-2017) Clear Time - 1:27 Contra (8-18-2017) Bucky O'Hare (8-18-2017) Bust-A-Groove (8-25-2017) w/Heat Akumajou Dracula (9-10-2017) Shadow of the Ninja (9-15-2017) Ninja Gaiden II: The Dark Sword of Chaos (9-22-2017) Monster in my Pocket (10-6-2017) Rare Replay - Battletoads Arcade (12-2-2017) Ninja Gaiden III: The Ancient Ship of Doom (12-2-2017)
Retro Posters/Ads/Brochures - I love looking through these.
> It looks like people are scalping their one chip challenge chips for $50. And people
> are buying them. $50 for a potato chip. Makes Pulseman look reasonable.
Yeah but I'm talking about the ghost pepper chips.
And seriously sir if you wanted to pimp out anything you got going on YouTube that you want more views subscribers for buy that chip and take that challenge. I bought two bags today I'll send you my codes if you want to try to win a 50 dollar chip 😊
> I ate an entire bag of those ghost peppers chips. They're hot, but not THAT hot.
> The carolina reaper single chip challenge is a different story. That was rough.
For a normal person they are hot, hence the warning. Normally I've been trying to get a little bit hotter with things like the Indian curries I make at home BUT I like hotter curries. Different people can take different amounts of heat and different types of spices. Most Mexican salsas I prefer medium maybe a little hot depending on the pepper. But I'm recovering from some serious stomach and intestinal problems so the only bad thing I've been doing to myself is eating hot food. Usually I make it myself with packets so I can control the suffering I will go through later 😉
Also my homegirl who is Mexican American had ONE ghost pepper chip and it started burning in her sinuses. She absolutely wouldn't eat another. She couldn't believe I finished them (it took a few days) and wanted to buy another.
Just because you can eat a whole bag I still need to warn other people in case they know they will have a hard time. I ate 6 chips today in a sitting and I had to wash them down with spicy queso chips 😍 Which are also delicious. I would eat more but I have to be careful my insides will kill me if I'm not careful 😉
> (Also, I have every intention of going back and beating Castlevania and MMX when
> I have the time. Stream plans are a bit full up currently, but early next year seems
Also you did finish Ninja Gaiden which is a difficult game as well. And Monster in my Pocket which is easy but not too easy. That one took me like three hours and I had to play it 3 times to pass it. But yeah it was at least in one sitting.
I'm glad you're giving castlevania another chance you'll be really proud of yourself for passing it.
I beat Monster In My Pocket in about 3 hours as well, I died on the final boss on my second playthrough so had to start over but it wasn't too hard overall. Was Ninja Gaiden an actual let's play game? I got to 6-2 when I played it casually a couple of years ago, but haven't returned back to it recently.
> I beat Monster In My Pocket in about 3 hours as well, I died on the final boss on
> my second playthrough so had to start over but it wasn't too hard overall. Was Ninja
> Gaiden an actual let's play game? I got to 6-2 when I played it casually a couple
> of years ago, but haven't returned back to it recently.
Yeah it's an actual lets play game. It was August I think and then Castlevania was September. But 6-2 is surprisingly easy once you get the timing and patterns down. Mostly if you know exactly where things will spawn it's pretty easy to repeat. It's actually easier than 5-2 maybe ..... Maybe not.
I might try to go back and play the previous games, but I've beaten castlevania recently enough that I do not care to try again. MIMP and NG are both I'd be interested in; I've never played MIMP (I'd need to buy it, get the everdrive, or emulate), and NG I beat as a kid but not since I was about 9 years old (game genie)
Okay @sharif challenge was accepted and completed! I finished the bag of ghost pepper chips (in less than 3 hours)! I will probably be suffering well into tomorrow lol. I only mean internally but I think that different bags aren't as hot as others too this one was hot but not as hot as the other bag I got a couple weeks ago.
> I might try to go back and play the previous games, but I've beaten castlevania recently
> enough that I do not care to try again. MIMP and NG are both I'd be interested in;
> I've never played MIMP (I'd need to buy it, get the everdrive, or emulate), and NG
> I beat as a kid but not since I was about 9 years old (game genie)
MIMP is a little expensive to buy for a 3 hour playthrough. I got one from Prime for 35 that I will sell back to him whenever he wants. I like it though. But I definitely suggest watching a video at least before you try buying a copy.
I'm probably going to play it on the anyway because I don't feel much like either futzing with the Retron or turning benstylus' CDX into a modern art installation by sticking Pulseman and a Game Genie in it, plus trying to remember where I put that darn unlock code.
Lady and Gentlemen, start your Mega Drives (or X'Eye, Genny with Game Genie, Everdrive etc etc), i wonder who will finish first this month.
Tell me if you still like Mega Man better after you beat Pulse Man.
@DefaultGen, on a separate note, I think I am in love with NGIII's music. It's awesome of course but I think another big reason is that the music invokes a wave of nostalgia like no other, I wonder how much of NG3 I played as a kid to have this type of impact. I don't remember much of it except the familiarity of boss lighting up when hit and Ryu's big sword.
Spectrum is down in my area, my kids and wifey are asleep, I finally have the big screen TV to myself, I boot up Xbox One, load up Destiny, "You have to sign on to Xbox Live". Fudge it...let me play some....For Honor, "Critical error, the connection to Xbox Live has been lost"...
> Well, you did pick two online-centric titles. Honestly THESE are the times where
> you should be enjoying unconnected classic systems that don't rely on internet.
Basically I don't have the internet here on my phone and I just like watching Blu Rays or playing games like Tetris or Super Meat Boy on my Xbox One. They load up just fine without any connection. I can also play Mortal Kombat X offline.
But it is nice playing Mega Man X on a ps2 or almost anything else on a retron 😊 Or one of the many other random retro systems that I never played on the Internet aside from my 360 and Xbox One.
But honestly I may have NEVER had a gametz account if it wasn't for going online many years ago with my Dreamcast so I still see both online and offline gaming as very positive things.
Woot. Looks like I already have Pulse Man on Wii. With another 1700 points left. Gonna start a Wii Virtual Console thread, talk about the closing and what titles are worthy of downloading before the VC's closure.
The Pulseman rom on my everdrive would not boot, everything near it in then list worked fine and I changed some region setting in the everdrive menus but no luck. Going to have to download another one if i want tonplay it on oeiginal hardware. The same rom worked fine on my vita though, so I played through most of Japan. The controls definitely take some getting used to, and the Mario 3 style charging for your air dash and projectiles is interesting and unique, but it didn't exactly grab me as something I can't wait to get back to. I will probably play the full thing on vita rather than fudging with the everdrive, everything else I've tried on it works fine. Only probelm eith my vita is the game has some framerate and screen tearing issues, so maybe if I find time to mess with the e verdrive I'll go that route
> |>> Game Boy Classic, those are the words you're looking for.
>> No, a Portable NES
Why? I would actually love a portable Nes Classic! Possibly even with a different lineup of games? Omg what if they let you play wireless two player with two systems?!? Or made it like the Supa Boy where you could still hook it up to the tv and plug in a couple of controllers?
This is a great idea Lunar IF they made some changes to the game lineup that is.
> I've lost half my credits on the screen in stage 6 where you blindly fall into spikes.
> Super fun. If I game over I doubt I'm going to play this again. Great choice guys
The other choices were NOT any better. There was only 3 actual choices and I already knew what I was getting with the other two and wanted a chance at something I would like.
There's no reason to give up if you game over.
I should have mentioned the Genesis version of Toki or Fantasia ..... But it's too late now I gotta hook up the Genesis later this weekend MAYBE even tonight but I was still hoping to screw around with MMX and the try out at least MMX 2 first.
> |>> I've lost half my credits on the screen in stage 6 where you blindly fall into
> |>> Super fun. If I game over I doubt I'm going to play this again. Great choice
>> The other choices were NOT any better. There was only 3 actual choices and I already
>> knew what I was getting with the other two and wanted a chance at something I
> I pushed Shadow Dancer for a reason. It's actually pretty excellent.
I'm usually pretty open minded but I never liked Shinobi after playing Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2 I could give it a chance I mean I have access to it but I was way less forgiving as a kid if I didn't like something as much as something else I said well that's that.
It's nothing personal against you or anyone but Ninja Gaiden was just so much better than Shinobi to me. And I don't think I played shadow dancer anyways so maybe I'll check it out with an open mind.
> I gave up on CV64... because it wasn't fun I'm mostly grumpy because I'm on a
> water stage and we're playing this game directly after such a great action platform
> game in MMX.
To each their own castlevania 64 was one of my favorite Castlevanias possibly because it was the first I got to play since super castlevania besides symphony of the night. I love all the Castlevanias I've played I even liked the first one on gameboy.
To be fair mega man X is pretty good and it's a lot easier than some of the regular mega man Nes and 360 games but it's a little bit of a grind. But I really do like it and am still going to keep playing it. I want that Hadoken 😊
>> I can't beat it without dying to the act 7 timer. The timer is by far the hardest
>> part of the game. I haven't been trying lately though. I just play through the
>> for fun.
> Die to timer?!
You die if the timer runs out. It fully resets when you die, so you've probably never died to it. It isn't an issue except for act 7, the longest act in the entire trilogy, on top of having 3 boss fights at the end. Beating it in 250 seconds is crazy. I can beat it without dying besides a suicide halfway through act 7 for timer reasons though.
IGN reviewed the Virtual Console version of Pulseman, giving it a score of 8.0 out of 10, therefore receiving IGN's Editor's choice award. In the review, the author praises its graphics as "one of the cleanest, most crisp and most attractive platformers on the Genesis" and that the game "isn't just fun, it's electric."
> That would be the one and only Galford...and I abso-freakin'-lutely love
> that series.
Yeah I thought his name was something similar to that 😊
It's a good series. Though honestly I only remember playing the first two a lot as well as the one on 360 samurai showdown sen is it? I like that one but I had a harder time with the 3D aspect and the characters weren't as exciting to me. No little Cham Cham
Alrighty, I'm done with Pulseman. It sure is a lot faster going through the levels knowing about dashing to charge. Also figuring out you're entirely invincible while dashing, doing the up jumpy thing, and in Voltorb mode makes the game easier. I usually read the manual before playing a game
>> Alicia dragon would be been better than pulseman if we wanted to play that developers
>> work outside of the Pokemon era, imho
> Did the same people make Alisia Dragoon and Pulseman?
Alisia Dragoon was from Game Arts. Great game, but very hard. And the Japanese box art is gorgeous. (I own the US version.)
In addition to Pulseman, Game Freak also developed Mendel Palace and Smartball. But Pokémon was what both put them on the map and nearly did them in. GF was very nearly the victim of its own success as they worked to meet the demands of a template for Pokémon's future: a worldwide release, spin-off games, AND a sequel. Satoru Iwata did a LOT of the heavy lifting back in the day to not only make it possible for Gold and Silver to be finished, but also fixed some bugs and created tools to allow Red/Green to be localized. His team at HAL Laboratory made it possible for Pokémon Stadium and Snap to exist.
Games like HarmoKnight and Drill Dozer are likely made to allow "smaller" projects their time to shine and keep the Game Freak staff from getting burned out. It certainly helps that they're fun. (Recommended reading: Iwata Asks: HarmoKnight)
Back on topic...
I bought Pulseman as a delayed college graduation present to myself 11-12 years ago. It was $60 shipped from Singapore then. I had no idea that it would go through the roof like it has. I played the heck out of it on Sega Channel and still bought it on Virtual Console years later because I was glad it was put out there for more people to enjoy.
It's very accessible with iterations on the , , Virtual Console, and Classic Edition. It's hard as balls, especially with the double play-through, which means it shouldn't be finished too quickly. It's genuinely fun with a good amount of challenge.
Super Ghouls and Ghosts seems like a very good contender. I wouldn't mind Zombies Ate My Neighbors either. I'll have to think a bit about my choice but we will have next month's game picked out before the whole holiday rush.
I don't think it's illegal since I've been seeing that crap everywhere this year including as suggested posts on my Facebook feed.
But then again I'm not really sure since it could be something Nintendo could try to go after and make them shut it down. If they did I'm pretty sure Nintendo would win but I've been seeing a lot of them that look like Nes Classics this year.
I voted for Zombies Ate My Neighbors back in October as the Halloween game, so I'm down for that. I know I'm never going to beat Super Ghouls n Ghosts in the time allotted, so I don't even want to bother.
So that motherboard I ordered will only run on extremely high voltage, the processor I can't get to even work with other compatible mobos and of course the seller is treating me like I'm 5. I JUST WANT TO RETURN IT gosh darn IT.
> If it doesn't work, bypass the seller and submit a "significantly not as described"
> with ebay stating clearly that it doesn't work, and you should be able to return
Yeah I submitted a return request under not as described. Their last message they said they would process the return (like they have a choice) or do a partial refund and I said let's just do the return and I'm waiting to hear back.
...Yeah, that's worth selling a 3DS XL and a PS3 for.
Speaking of which, $125 shipped for a Link Between Worlds edition 3DS XL in VG condition, boxed and comes with LoZ: OOT 3D physical, Player's Choice. $5 discount and a free Club Nintendo game case with Namco Museum DS loose for taking pity on a fool and buying it today.
If I was in need of a system I'd definitely have went for it. The seller appears to know what they are doing and I can't imagine a SCDR2 working properly without repair at this point. The main thing they might not notice is the sound being low. Hopefully it's been washed and recapped.
What's your thoughts on the article above? Seriously considering buying quite a few Wii virtual console games on my Wii U. I packed it up since I really only play my switch but I might unpack it just for this.
I just got Dino Land for 20 bucks I'm not specifically collecting Renovation stuff though, I just like pinball and Gain Ground. Earlier this year you guys informed me a game called El Viento even existed. It's not an economical idea to collect from the Publisher du Jour.
> Make some suggestions! I'm about to drop $200 on Wii Virtual Console games. Guide
Bold titles are shooters you can skip if you're not a fan. Shooters in italics you should get anyways because they'll probably make you a fan of shooters. Left out the obvious picks for NES/N64, left out SNES entirely because Wii VC didn't sell many of the great games the system SHOULD be known for and I'm salty.
I dropped $50 on PC Engine Titles alone and I needed to add another $20 to keep myself from crying. This PC Engine list is $170 by itself and I'd want to get all of those.
NES Princess Tomato in the Salad Kingdom Bio Miracle Bokutte Upa Solomon's Key
N64 Sin & Punishment Bomberman Hero
PCE/TG16 Super Star soldier R-Type Soldier Blade New Adventure Island Splatterhouse Dragon's Curse Bonk's Adventure Bonk's Revenge Ninja Spirit Blazing Lazers Air Zonk Galaga '90 Neutopia Bonk 3: Bonk's Big Adventure Neutopia 2 Gate of Thunder Samurai Ghost The Dynastic Hero Monster Lair Lords of Thunder Psychosis YS Book I and II Final Soldier Gradius II: Gofer no Yabou Bomberman '94 Castlevania: Rondo of Blood
Neo Geo Magician Lord Metal Slug Metal Slug X The Last Blade/2 King of Fighters '99 Wiiware: Contra/Castlevania Rebirth
VC Arcade Altered Beast Shinobi Ghosts 'n Goblins 1942 Wonder Boy in Monster Land
This is my hot and totally clean and professional looking current state of playing old games that I mentioned a day or so ago. I hadn't even really had anything out after getting the projector and putting away my pvm and crt tv until just recently when I got the urge to play Rondo.
> @DefaultGen Look man. This has been sitting in my work desk because it won't
> fudging work. Stupid piece of crap that doesn't do what the fudge it was supposed
> to do
That's a shame cause someone ganked mine when I was a kid and I still haven't ever gotten another copy. I think I passed it but it was a really cool game with many secrets. Hopefully you can get a working copy someday.
There are fudging dozens of Mega Man platformers, not including spin offs. Mario is my favorite franchise of all time and I haven't even beaten every single Mario game. MM11 will probably be fine, but if I wanted to play a new Mega Man game the world is already my oyster.
> Okay, but really nothing to write home about, it's mostly just a rehash of X4, but
> with RNG and a timer shoehorned into the gameplay. X6 and X7 are garbage though don't
> ever try them
Ummm I have the X fever now (it's pretty mild nothing like my other gaming diseases) and a disc with all 7 MMX games on it. You're damn right I'm going to maybe one day if I have time after beating the first 5 try them sir 😊
Does anyone remember how crazy it was when Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory was released for free? A whole game released for free (even if it was basically a multiplayer spinoff of RTCW). Trackmania Nations was pretty special too. I used to play the craptiest, bootleg free games like Cube or a constant deluge of TRIBES and UT mods looking for anything good that was free. Now it feels like we get free, full retail games every week. Kids don't know how good they have it.
Yes, that's exactly why I paid zero attention to the well written dialogue and moving cutscenes. So a playthrough is needed for me to catch up to the storyline. Like when did Irene and Ryu get together? Was it after she shot him that Ryu fell in love with her? Why does Power Blade guy make a cameo in NG2 and did he survive?
The only legitimately good part of the story of NG1 was when Foster has his agents pick up Ryu after Smith dies in his arms, that was actually a fairly insidious, well-paced and written sequence, all the way through Foster's debriefing.
That gets an A+. The rest of the story in all the games is fairly throw-away crap, or so bad it's funny.
I am just about finishing up my "gamer space" redesign and will post up some pics for you guys tonight. Just have to finish wiring speakers and consoles in a manner which I can change easily should the need arise down the line. Moving the CRT was easily the worst part so far.
for not mounting the TV above the fireplace. I always feel like I'm craning my neck to see TVs mounted so high. I was going to say something about it in the other thread, then like 3 people in a row had TVs above the fireplace
> Nice Built -ins! But some bowing though. How do you have everything hooked up? Switcher?
> Team OSSC or FM?
Neither OSCC or FM, the CRT looks fine with Svideo/component/composite for now. Everything is stock, video quality is not tops but very playable and nostalgic. Svideo and component for everything that supports it stock, and composite for the rest. I have a 5 port switcher, and the receiver has 5 other inputs.
I currently take out the system I want to play, plug in the video from the always hooked up coord cluster in the cabinet below the tv, and then plug in AC next to it. Not much trouble, and I typically take one out and play it until I finish the game, then put it away. I rarely want to have two out at once, let alone switch between them.
The bowing sucks, I bought those 4 shelves from the shelving section since they have the plastic coating and look nice, but they don't support the weight, so that's why some of the boards are unfinished wood - they are sturdier and I plan on painting them down the road.
These modular wire shelves are kind of neat. Not cheap but not crazy, better than using up a giant IKEA cube for every tiny NES Toploader and Dreamcast. I can't really use them, but thought someone here might. Maybe I just like shelves too much.
I have one of those throw together bookshelves that comes in a box from wal mart, particle board, just needed something cheap, you know the stuff. it def cant handle a whole shelf of strat guides without bowing ive gotta reinforce it somehow, ive got some furring strips left over from some floor work, thinking I can maybe use a length of that across the bottom and screw in from the sides, or use a plate and attach at the sides so I don't lose the ability to reposition the shelves
Speaking of flawless. I am going to be listing some of my retro games in the vintage section. I do not want to hog all the room so I will likely only feature 1 or 2 at a time. So if you are after pristine games check vintage and even portable/console/classifieds for not quite retro stuff as well.
>> Speaking of flawless. I am going to be listing some of my retro games in the
>> section. I do not want to hog all the room so I will likely only feature 1 or
>> at a time. So if you are after pristine games check vintage and even portable/console/classifieds
>> for not quite retro stuff as well.
> Sounds good sir if you link it I will check it out. Any idea which systems you are
> purging or are you still processing what you might not need right now?
Just kinda figuring it out right now. Newer and handheld definitely are going to stay as I love handhelds. Right now thinking of purging 3DO, and WiiU + the few top Wii + WiiU games. As well as OG Xbox. Currently trying to sell 3 pristine more expensive games, Rayearth, Persona 4 vita solid gold, and Trails of the Sky Premium psp.
I definitely wanna pick up MKR at some point, but at its current going rate going to have to be some kind of partial trade to get me to ante up. I don't think I could stomach that much cash going out for one game! Not nearly on the scale of that time @Lunar picked up Keio though.
I need to sell a few things, I have spend way to much money lately. Let me know if anyone is interested in a Turbografx 16 or CDX. I will probably putting my 20" PVM up for sale but I will probably sell that locally.
> I almost added that when I replied to erickrpg earlier but I actually was interested
> in his games and didn't want to be all snarky about it 😉
First off, I've been told that snarkiness is one of my better features. Second off, my intent was to better publicize Gypsy's sale 'cause I know how much y'all like to buy ol' video games. Neverthess, I truly apologize for coming off as rude to Gypsy or anyone else in this thread; y'all are a pretty cool bunch of cats 'n' kittens.
I have a separate CRT for light gun games. No need to ruin my entire setup with inferior outdated technology when I could have that pixel precise, perfect rectangle, no scanlines, no convergence problems, bigger than 20" image at the cost of a few ms of input lag.
I prefer to not listen to my music on Youtube, for sure. I think Spotify uses Opus for audio streaming? When you kick it up to high quality it sounds very very good, and the music selection's basically like an instant digital library with JUST about everything you'd want and some really on-point music suggestions with the Weekly Mixes, great for discovering new artists or unknown favorites from ones you already knew. Deadmau5 - Polaris is probably my Crap Where Was This All My Life song of 2017, heard it balls deep (45hrs) into my Persona 5 playthrough (Great feature of the PS4 to be able to dump game music in lieu of Spotify when you need a break!)
I've never regretted paying for Spotify. It's a solid service to support, and if you don't mind ads even the free version's alright, you just have less control over what plays when (only so many skips per hour, etc)
Google Play's fine. I haven't busted the radio and don't know if they make any good weekly playlists based on what you're listening to, but I'm amazed at Spotify's ability to lead me to new, great music week after week after well that week sucked but then the week after THAT it's got 12 new tracks for my Go-To playlist.
I mean, unless you want 3 kids to blab about random crap for 27 minutes and then run out of things to talk about, I think one of the things podcasts do which you may not see unless you're behind the scenes is they have a structure with talking points that they try to move through. Moderation in this case isn't like "You're out of line, let's get back on topic!", it can be a thing, but mostly it's to have a good idea of where you're going in the discussions, and some vague idea of how long you want this to go on. A list of stories or questions.