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Topic   Still looking: Chibi-Robo Nintendo GameCube new games added 3/26

benstylus
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* 24-Feb(#1)
Looking to get Chibi-Robo on GameCube.

I know it's stupidly priced right now so just looking to trade. I have some relatively expensive items available, including such things as:

Agetec Arcade Stick (Dreamcast)
Fighting Vipers 2 (PAL Dreamcast, complete)
Grandia II (Dreamcast, complete)
Shenmue Limited Edition (Dreamcast, complete)
Shenmue II (PAL Dreamcast, complete)

Avalon Code (DS, Complete)
Zenses: Zen Garden (DS, Complete)

Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 (Game Boy Advance, cart only)

F-Zero GX (GameCube, complete)
Lost Kingdoms (GameCube, complete)
Lost Kingdoms 2 (GameCube, disc only)

Alisia Dragoon (Genesis, complete)
Michael Jackson's Moonwalker (Genesis, complete)
Revenge of Shinobi - original release with Batman boss (Genesis, complete)

Einhänder (PS1, complete)

Rez (PS2, complete)
Sakura Wars: So Long My Love - Premium Edition (PS2, complete)

Backup RAM Cartridge (Saturn, Sega brand, cart only)
Controller - Ascii Saturn Stick (Saturn, controller only)
Controller - Sega Mission Stick (Saturn, controller only)
Legend of Oasis (Saturn, complete)
Panzer Dragoon (Saturn, complete)
Panzer Dragoon Zwei (Saturn, complete)
Shining the Holy Ark (Saturn, complete)
Winter Heat (Saturn, complete)

Mickey Mania (Sega CD, complete)
Earthworm Jim: Special Edition (Sega CD, complete)

Rune Factory 4: Archival Edition (Switch, complete)

Godzilla Unleashed (Wii, complete)
Mario Kart Wii (Wii, complete)
Rhythm Heaven Fever (Wii, complete)
Sakura Wars: So Long My Love (Wii, complete)
Xenoblade Chronicles (Wii, complete)

Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games (Wii U, complete)
Nintendoland (Wii U, complete)
Nintendoland (Wii U, complete, another copy)
Nintendoland (Wii U, complete, a third copy)

Also have a good amount of anime dvds and blurays, as well as a number of hobby board games I'd be willing to (although for the board games, please keep in mind there will be a huge shipping cost difference compared to a GameCube game). If you have Chibi-Robo to trade and are interested in anime or board games, let me know and I'll put together a list.

Gypsy
GameTZ Subscriber 250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
24-Feb(#2)
Wow, feels like I sold this not too long ago for like $60 on here. Decent price at the time but this really jumped.
benstylus
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24-Feb(#3)
Yes, and it makes me sadstylus.
benstylus
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24-Feb(#4)
The reason I want it is because I recently went back and played the WiiWare game Snowpack Park from the same developer and had a lot of fun.
Gypsy
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24-Feb(#5)
Very fun game but $200 is yikes territory. Good luck hope you find a trade for it.
benstylus
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24-Feb(#6)
$200 appears to be the high end. $150 to $175 seems a bit more common, and there are even a few sub-$100 copies
Sun
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24-Feb(#7)
I know lots of retro games have spiked in price, but GameCube stuff?
benstylus
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24-Feb(#8)
Sun wrote:
> I know lots of retro games have spiked in price, but GameCube stuff?

Yup. Even some Wii games are cresting the triple digit mark now.
Gypsy
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24-Feb(#9)
Gamecube and PS2 spikes were a long time coming given the pricing on other things. Wouldn't want to start delving into either right now.
benstylus
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24-Feb(#10)
Gypsy wrote:
> Gamecube and PS2 spikes were a long time coming given the pricing on other things.
> Wouldn't want to start delving into either right now.

All my recent ps2 purchases have been on ps4

Nintendo needs to add GameCube games to the switch eshop smile
Sun
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24-Feb(#11)
benstylus wrote:
> Gypsy wrote:
>> Gamecube and PS2 spikes were a long time coming given the pricing on other things.
>> Wouldn't want to start delving into either right now.
>
> All my recent ps2 purchases have been on ps4
>
> Nintendo needs to add GameCube games to the switch eshop smile

My modded Wii has GameCube games on it (mostly the key import games that never released in the US), and man, 480p output is blah. Even Project M doesn't look great.
Sun
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24-Feb(#12)
I noticed that I have a handful of sealed GameCube games in my collection:
Baten Kaitos Origins
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
Geist
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Skies of Arcadia Legends
Star Fox Assault

I'll have to hold on to them for a while.
benstylus
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24-Feb(#13)
Pirating isn't an option for me, so stupid prices it is LOL
benstylus
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25-Feb(#14)
Bump
benstylus
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* 26-Feb(#15)
Added some more stupid priced Saturn stuff to tempt you into giving your Chibi Robo a new home
Gypsy
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26-Feb(#16)
Shenmues in the mix as well shock
benstylus
GameTZ Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
* 26-Feb(#17)
I got the collection on ps4 so I've got no need for the Dreamcast ones anymore
Admiral
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26-Feb(#18)
Ben, was one of your videos just used in a WatchMojo video?
benstylus
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26-Feb(#19)
I have no idea, I don't generally watch their videos. My old videos were pretty low res, though, so I imagine they would use someone else's.

Wouldn't be surprised if they were reusing videos from other channels though.

Go watch outside xbox/outside xtra instead.
JustDefend
Double Gold Good Trader
26-Feb(#20)
Are you looking for a complete copy? I think I have the game but not sure about case.

I'd mainly trade it for Magic Knight Rayearth, but that game is super high in price as well.
Lunar
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26-Feb(#21)
JustDefend wrote:
> Are you looking for a complete copy? I think I have the game but not sure about case.
>
>
> I'd mainly trade it for Magic Knight Rayearth, but that game is super high in price
> as well.

Brah, MKR is like $750+...


Lunar
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26-Feb(#22)
I don't have Chibi, but wish you had more wants cuz some of the stuff on the list is Firefox minus the fox. Can't believe we don't have a fire icon. C'mon bill

JustDefend
Double Gold Good Trader
26-Feb(#23)
Lunar wrote:
> JustDefend wrote:
>> Are you looking for a complete copy? I think I have the game but not sure about
> case.
>>
>>
>> I'd mainly trade it for Magic Knight Rayearth, but that game is super high in
> price
>> as well.
>
> Brah, MKR is like $750+...
>
>
>

I know, wasn't suggesting to trade it one for one. Just saying that was the only thing I'm interested in. Sorry for confusion.
benstylus
GameTZ Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
27-Feb(#24)
JustDefend wrote:
> Are you looking for a complete copy? I think I have the game but not sure about case.
>
>
> I'd mainly trade it for Magic Knight Rayearth, but that game is super high in price
> as well.

Ideally, yes I'd like a complete copy.

I don't have Rayearth anymore, haven't for many years. is it still on my collection list? I thought it was good but not great.
benstylus
GameTZ Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
* 27-Feb(#25)
Lunar wrote:
> I don't have Chibi, but wish you had more wants cuz some of the stuff on the list
> is Firefox minus the fox. Can't believe we don't have a fire icon. C'mon bill
>

There is plenty of other stuff I want, but most of it isn't in the pants-on-head price range. Feel free to let me know what you have though.

I would feel like a giant buttpie selling some of these games at their current prices based on what I paid for them, and I cringe at the idea of shelling out that kind of cash for a single game. But I'm ok trading stupidly high priced games for other stupidly high priced games because reasons. Even if it's basically the same thing just in one transaction instead of two.

benstylus
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28-Feb(#26)
Bump! Still looking
benstylus
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* 14-Mar(#27)
Bump. Chibi Robo is still want
benstylus
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* 17-Mar(#28)
Bump!

Added Einhander to the list of potential trade items (can't believe it's in the $200 range on eBay now!) Earthworm Jim for Sega CD (now in the $350 to $400 range, so you'll need to offer some other good stuff to even it out if you want this one) and another copy of the "rare" and "highly sought after" Nintendoland for Wii U. ($0.99 at gamestop how could I say no?)
ChronoLe
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
17-Mar(#29)
Bump. These prices are getting crazyyyyy.

Unrelated, you still have those Saturn games from our only trade from back in the day? Good luck on your Chibi hunt :)
JustDefend
Double Gold Good Trader
17-Mar(#30)
Nintendoland is a lot of fun. I'm shocked the price dropped as much as it did.
benstylus
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17-Mar(#31)
ChronoLe wrote:
> Bump. These prices are getting crazyyyyy.
>
> Unrelated, you still have those Saturn games from our only trade from back in the
> day? Good luck on your Chibi hunt :)

Sadly no.
I let most of my Saturn games go about 10 years ago to finance a move.


JustDefend wrote:
> Nintendoland is a lot of fun. I'm shocked the price dropped as much as it did.

I agree, it's one of my favorites. I think with so many of the top Wii U games getting Switch ports, interest in the Wii U itself has just tanked. And Nintendoland is sadly a casualty of that.
benstylus
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20-Mar(#32)
Bump! Added a third copy of Nintendoland I picked up at Gamestop today.
benstylus
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26-Mar(#33)
Bump! Today I added Rez (PS2), Mickey Mania (Sega CD), and arcade stick and flight stick controllers for the Saturn.
Admiral
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22-Apr(#34)
benstylus wrote:
> ChronoLe wrote:
>> Bump. These prices are getting crazyyyyy.
>>
>> Unrelated, you still have those Saturn games from our only trade from back in
> the
>> day? Good luck on your Chibi hunt :)
>
> Sadly no.
> I let most of my Saturn games go about 10 years ago to finance a move.
>
>

I feel your pain :( Back in the day, we tossed around Earthbounds, Panzer Sagas, Crusader of Centys, Magic Knight Rayearths, etc. like they were only $50-100. Oh wait, they were $50-100 (I had them all...but no longer).

It makes me very Sadmiral wink
ChronoLe
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
22-Apr(#35)
Any luck yet Benstylus? I find it rather challenging attempting to trade for higher end items these days, even when you have good stuff, like you do.

@Admiral, I'm sure it has been discussed ad nauseum, but I'm hardly on media. Any chance the market might stabilize to some middle ground between current prices and pre pandemic? These monthly jumps are just looking insane. I can't even find CIB Genesis on ebay without some 25-50% premium. Sadmiral indeed ;)
Gypsy
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22-Apr(#36)
I think the biggest issue is hardly anyone even has this game for trade which is the case with a lot of high value games. But yeah when people do look to get rid of a game, they typically just want to sell it.

I haven't had anyone message me about any Etrian Odyssey games from my other thread let alone Lunar EB.
benstylus
GameTZ Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
* 22-Apr(#37)
ChronoLe wrote:
> Any luck yet Benstylus? I find it rather challenging attempting to trade for higher
> end items these days, even when you have good stuff, like you do.
>
> @Admiral, I'm sure it has been discussed ad nauseum, but I'm hardly on media. Any
> chance the market might stabilize to some middle ground between current prices and
> pre pandemic? These monthly jumps are just looking insane. I can't even find CIB
> Genesis on ebay without some 25-50% premium. Sadmiral indeed ;)

No luck yet, the only person who approached me about it didn't find anything of sufficient value they wanted in return.

I honestly don't see the retro market going down much. People who grew up in that era are in their 30s and 40s, and many of them are making decent money. Some people's midlife crisis involves a motorcycle or a fancy sports car, others' involve spending hundreds or thousands of dollars on old game carts or discs. I think some of the mid tier games will go down slightly, but unless there's a huge exodus from gaming/collecting in general, some of these high prices are here to stay.

I think at this point my best option to not pay $200+ is to pray for a port, a remaster, or a remake. Sadly, even if Nintendo does listen to fans and start with the GameCube ports, the developer for Chibi Robo appears to have closed up shop, so it may be more trouble for N than it's worth.

And Gypsy, if I had any Etrian games I'd trade them, they are definitely too much work for me to enjoy.
Admiral
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26-Apr(#38)
ChronoLe wrote:

>
> @Admiral, I'm sure it has been discussed ad nauseum, but I'm hardly on media. Any
> chance the market might stabilize to some middle ground between current prices and
> pre pandemic? These monthly jumps are just looking insane. I can't even find CIB
> Genesis on ebay without some 25-50% premium. Sadmiral indeed ;)

That's a good question...I would THINK these things will stabilize once all of the old timers get the games they want, but it sure hasn't happened with any of them yet.
benstylus
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* 26-Apr(#39)
That's the thing - I'm not sure there enough copies of many titles in collector-acceptable condition for all the old timers. And as young'uns jump into the hobby and want to play some history (or the games their parents grew up with), that further increases demand.

A few months ago I was at a local shop that had a power base converter for sale, and some 14 year old kid was telling me about his favorite master system games.
sa330206
450 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
26-Apr(#40)
Admiral wrote:
> ChronoLe wrote:
>
>>
>> @Admiral, I'm sure it has been discussed ad nauseum, but I'm hardly on media.
> Any
>> chance the market might stabilize to some middle ground between current prices
> and
>> pre pandemic? These monthly jumps are just looking insane. I can't even find CIB
>> Genesis on ebay without some 25-50% premium. Sadmiral indeed ;)
>
> That's a good question...I would THINK these things will stabilize once all of the
> old timers get the games they want, but it sure hasn't happened with any of them
> yet.

I think Gamestop had something to do with this as well. IIRC they disposed of many cases/manuals for a lot of the older systems.
ChronoLe
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
27-Apr(#41)
benstylus wrote:
> ChronoLe wrote:
>> Bump. These prices are getting crazyyyyy.
>>
>> Unrelated, you still have those Saturn games from our only trade from back in
> the
>> day? Good luck on your Chibi hunt :)
>
> Sadly no.
> I let most of my Saturn games go about 10 years ago to finance a move.

That is wild. Just around this exact same time in 2011, I sold half my Saturn imports, all of my Dreamcast and PS2 imports, and a bunch of random games to buy my house during the bottom of the recession.

It ended up being the best thing I could have done. No way I could afford to pay the asking prices today in crazy California.

If I come across the game locally, I'll let you know.
benstylus
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27-Apr(#42)
sa330206 wrote:
>
> I think Gamestop had something to do with this as well. IIRC they disposed of many
> cases/manuals for a lot of the older systems.

I believe most of their case disposal was when the PS3, 360, and Wii were in full swing.

For the super dirt cheap previous gen PS2/Xbox/GC games no one was buying (sports games and shovelware that were 5 dollars or less), they switched to those paper envelopes to save shelf space. And I don't think anyone is worse off for that.

Then at one point during the 3DS' life, they made a companywide policy to do strip every single used original DS game and throw out the case and manual, because that really saved space! Some of my local stores kept cases for the really popular games like Pokémon, since they tended to sell quickly anyway, but I remember one of the store managers got chewed out by the district manager for doing so.

I think they've alleviated this problem somewhat now, because they have overall less used stock in general. Partly due to a year of pandemic hoarding, partly due to the rise of digital, but also partly due to not offering trade-ins on every game anymore - even on the current gen stuff. Last time I traded things in during one of their bonus credit deals, I had some switch games that they wouldn't take, even though I had bought them at that store previously. A couple they even had copies on the shelf for sale. And I'm talking US releases, not those play-asia special edition English language releases.
Lunar
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27-Apr(#43)
Collector condition games will never come back down. There's just less and less of them everyday,

Gypsy
GameTZ Subscriber 250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
27-Apr(#44)
The dumpster divers that save those cases/manuals are the real mvps.

Lunar wrote:
> Collector condition games will never come back down. There's just less and less of
> them everyday,
>
>

Lots of games are in pretty rough spots right now. Popful Mail is actually more buyable currently than Lunar Eternal Blue somehow.
Admiral
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27-Apr(#45)
I'm not the only one hoarding every single Wii U/Vita/3DS/PS3/360/PS4/Switch game hoping the same thing happens am I? raspberry
Lunar
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27-Apr(#46)
Yes, good idea. Hoard now, wait for another once in a century pandemic to accelerate the increase in value of mass produced product.

benstylus
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* 27-Apr(#47)
I just want it all to crash. I hate the fact that the only legal way to play so many amazing games is to shell out multiple hundreds of dollars.

Either that or a huge wave of digital classic releases would be ok by me. I'd be happy for everyone with a $10,000 physical game sealed graded and slabbed in an acid-free UV resistant archival quality spermicide-coated plastic case. As long as I can pay $10 for a digital copy to play.
Admiral
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27-Apr(#48)
Lunar wrote:
> Yes, good idea. Hoard now, wait for another once in a century pandemic to accelerate
> the increase in value of mass produced product.
>
>


Lol yeah it's ridiculous I know. But you don't honestly believe it's SIMPLY the pandemic doing this, and not everything is mass produced...sooooo...
Admiral
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27-Apr(#49)
benstylus wrote:
> I just want it all to crash. I hate the fact that the only legal way to play so many
> amazing games is to shell out multiple hundreds of dollars.
>
> Either that or a huge wave of digital classic releases would be ok by me. I'd be
> happy for everyone with a $10,000 physical game sealed graded and slabbed in an acid-free
> UV resistant archival quality spermicide-coated plastic case. As long as I can pay
> $10 for a digital copy to play.


Agreed. Because it isn't happening the way we want it to, there's an influx of chinese handhelds doing retro games galore. I don't mind copying roms for some of these things honestly.
Lunar
GameTZ Subscriber 900 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (7)
27-Apr(#50)
Admiral wrote:
> not everything is mass produced...sooooo...

Crap, you're right. LRG is soooo limited.


Lunar
GameTZ Subscriber 900 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (7)
27-Apr(#51)
In all seriousness, yes, it's the pandemic and the free government money.

It's those two things accelerating and pumping everything full of gas then setting them on fire.

I'm not saying it wouldn't have increased on its own, it would have taken another few decades.

Gypsy
GameTZ Subscriber 250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
27-Apr(#52)
Oh hey guys what's going on... Oh...
Gypsy
GameTZ Subscriber 250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
27-Apr(#53)
Lunar wrote:
> In all seriousness, yes, it's the pandemic and the free government money.
>
> It's those two things accelerating and pumping everything full of gas then setting
> them on fire.
>
> I'm not saying it wouldn't have increased on its own, it would have taken another
> few decades.
>
>

The free money definitely had an impact. We are seeing it everywhere after the 1400 stimmy especially.
Tj96
Triple Gold Good Trader
* 28-Apr(#54)
Traded mine, a nice minty cib, to frank at forgotten freshness in 2020.... granted I might have never played it but now I feel like I'm missing out. Also rhythm heaven for ds/wii??? Wtf
Gypsy
GameTZ Subscriber 250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
28-Apr(#55)
Tj96 wrote:
> Traded mine, a nice minty cib, to frank at forgotten freshness in 2020.... granted
> I might have never played it but now I feel like I'm missing out. Also rhythm heaven
> for ds/wii??? Wtf

It's all kind of "you win some you lose some" if you acquire but got rid of higher end or harder to find stuff before the boom. I definitely got rid of some stuff early but I also got Valkyrie Profile from FF for 140 credit as one example.
Tj96
Triple Gold Good Trader
* 28-Apr(#56)
Gypsy wrote:
> Tj96 wrote:
>> Traded mine, a nice minty cib, to frank at forgotten freshness in 2020.... granted
>> I might have never played it but now I feel like I'm missing out. Also rhythm
> heaven
>> for ds/wii??? Wtf
>
> It's all kind of "you win some you lose some" if you acquire but got rid of higher
> end or harder to find stuff before the boom. I definitely got rid of some stuff early
> but I also got Valkyrie Profile from FF for 140 credit as one example.
Yeah. I just wanted to add that in this case I don't truly mind or regret it. I kinda figured it would go up. I could have been greedy and held on. Frank had a customer looking for it. At the end of it all, I hadn't played it and it was just sitting around. So I'm happy someone else has it and has enjoyed playing it! I kinda wish there was a GTZ forum for undertraders who don't mind selling or trading below boom values. @benstylus if I had it still, I wouldn't mind putting a $100 value on it. We need to play and enjoy our games not just value them
Admiral
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28-Apr(#57)
Lunar wrote:
> Admiral wrote:
>> not everything is mass produced...sooooo...
>
> Crap, you're right. LRG is soooo limited.
>

More limited than most of the old games going for $500 - $1000 now....

Look, I'm not skipping my 401k for games raspberry I'm just saying, if some of us are collectors, I think there are some nice items to be had in today's gaming scene that are going to be worth some stuff at some point.
Gypsy
GameTZ Subscriber 250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
28-Apr(#58)
Tj96 wrote:
> Gypsy wrote:
>> Tj96 wrote:
> |>> Traded mine, a nice minty cib, to frank at forgotten freshness in 2020.... granted
> |>> I might have never played it but now I feel like I'm missing out. Also rhythm
>> heaven
> |>> for ds/wii??? Wtf
>>
>> It's all kind of "you win some you lose some" if you acquire but got rid of higher
>> end or harder to find stuff before the boom. I definitely got rid of some stuff
> early
>> but I also got Valkyrie Profile from FF for 140 credit as one example.
> Yeah. I just wanted to add that in this case I don't truly mind or regret it. I kinda
> figured it would go up. I could have been greedy and held on. Frank had a customer
> looking for it. At the end of it all, I hadn't played it and it was just sitting
> around. So I'm happy someone else has it and has enjoyed playing it! I kinda wish
> there was a GTZ forum for undertraders who don't mind selling or trading below boom
> values. @benstylus if I had it still, I wouldn't mind putting a $100 value on it.
> We need to play and enjoy our games not just value them

Yeah, I sold a Chibi Robo on here for not that much. I originally got it to hold on to iirc, but someone was looking for it. One of my recent deals with FF I sent him a game he was wanting personally and that a customer had wishlisted for that reason. Just a couple of PS3 games I hadn't touched in years. One I didn't even like but was just too lazy to sell. Went from $10 to $100 so what I'm saying here is clearly always be lazy lol.

Trading really is the best thing right now if you can do it. I'm probably just going to have to buy the Sega CD games I am after though.
Gypsy
GameTZ Subscriber 250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
28-Apr(#59)
RE LRG: Yeah some of them are valuable and by the numbers have low runs but also no one cares about those games in the same way as old games worth 500+. I can barely think of anything they released that I'd even want to play. Ys Origins is obviously great but I've got it on PC.
Admiral
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28-Apr(#60)
Gypsy wrote:
> RE LRG: Yeah some of them are valuable and by the numbers have low runs but also
> no one cares about those games in the same way as old games worth 500+. I can barely
> think of anything they released that I'd even want to play. Ys Origins is obviously
> great but I've got it on PC.

Totally agree about most of the LRG stuff. Alot of it is hype and playing on people's FOMO.

But, there is a Shantae game for Switch that's $500 for the regular version, and almost $900 for the Collector's edition already. This is a special case, and Shantae games tend to be collectible and desired. Also, Jak and Daxter Collectors Ed. for PS4 is around $500.

Nobody cares "NOW" about those LRG releases...but people didn't care as much about Crusader of Centy when I bought it for like $30 here Complete in Box 20 years ago surprise

I suppose I compare the state of limited releases in gaming to that of limited prints of sports cards. Some people are snatching everything up, and some people are missing out. Sure, things might start somewhat valuable and could taper off...but overall, I think they are going to remain collectible and hold/increase in value. I'm not in it for the MONEY, I just love collecting. Gamers hate to admit it, but the hobby is really turning into a business for collectors as well as fans. It's a tough time to get into the retro collecting because values are nuts, but I also think it's a good time to be into collecting current systems too. At worst, it's fun :)
Lunar
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28-Apr(#61)
Admiral wrote:
> Nobody cares "NOW" about those LRG releases...but people didn't care as much about
> Crusader of Centy when I bought it for like $30 here Complete in Box 20 years ago
> surprise

That's some high quality false equivalency here.

LRG is manufactured scarcity, Crusader of Centy is actual scarcity.

People didn't care about you buying Crusader of Centy for $30 some two decades ago like people didn't care someone bought 200 shares of Amazon for $30 some 20 years go.


Gypsy
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28-Apr(#62)
Yeah I think Shantae or anything with big brand recognition is a no brainer if you are looking to buy LRG stuff that will spike. I just quit being involved with any LRG stuff at all and haven't really regretted it. I think a lot of it is I really just don't like many new games.
Admiral
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28-Apr(#63)
Lunar wrote:
> Admiral wrote:
>> Nobody cares "NOW" about those LRG releases...but people didn't care as much about
>> Crusader of Centy when I bought it for like $30 here Complete in Box 20 years
> ago
>> surprise
>
> That's some high quality false equivalency here.
>
> LRG is manufactured scarcity, Crusader of Centy is actual scarcity.

In the end, does it matter how it became scarce? At some point, people are going to want a physical copy of Blazing Chrome. They are not going to think about how it became scarce, they are simply going to have to battle the other people who also want a physical copy, and then the price goes up.

>
> People didn't care about you buying Crusader of Centy for $30 some two decades ago
> like people didn't care someone bought 200 shares of Amazon for $30 some 20 years
> go.
>

Sure, back then - we didn't KNOW some of these games would skyrocket in value, while today some people are HOPING they do. But again - it's not about trying to equate the two situations I suppose...I'm just saying I like the colleting side of it, and I think things will continue to gain value.
Lunar
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* 28-Apr(#64)
Tomorrow, LRG can change their business model to "print-as-much-as-we-can-sell".

Basically it's a crap company that produces no real value, has terrible practices, at the expense of players.

They literally cater to scalpers. That's actually their target market. There are more unopened LRG games than opened out in the wild.

Admiral
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28-Apr(#65)
Lunar wrote:
> Tomorrow, LRG can change their model to "print-as-much-as-we-can-sell".
>
> Basically it's a crap company that produces no real value, has terrible practices,
> at the expense of players.
>
> They literally cater to scalpers. That's actually their target market. There are
> more unopened LRG games than opened out in the wild.
>
>

Well, I clearly see where you stand on it raspberry

I enjoy the titles they bring out and I like to collect. I haven't sold a single LRG game yet, although I do keep them sealed (I buy many of them digitally though, so I'm still playing the games and supporting the dev). There ARE people who do both - play AND buy LRG.

yes
Lunar
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28-Apr(#66)
Admiral wrote:
>
> Well, I clearly see where you stand on it raspberry
>
> I enjoy the titles they bring out and I like to collect. I haven't sold a single
> LRG game yet, although I do keep them sealed

My point!

> (I buy many of them digitally though, so I'm still playing the games and supporting the dev).

This has nothing to do with LRG, you can buy digital copy and support the dev without buying LRG.

> There ARE people who do both - play AND buy LRG.

Nope, just scalpers and people who thinks they are "investing".

Lunar
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28-Apr(#67)
I'll take this chance to rant some more about LRG.

I ordered Scott Pilgrim some months ago, and it's still not in my hands.

This business practice of let's collect money, send it to production once we get the money, and let people wait 4-6 months for their product is not a sustainable business strategy.

I hope nothing but the worst for LRG. And I will not be buying from them ever again.

sa330206
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28-Apr(#68)
Lunar wrote:
> I'll take this chance to rant some more about LRG.
>
> I ordered Scott Pilgrim some months ago, and it's still not in my hands.
>
> This business practice of let's collect money, send it to production once we get
> the money, and let people wait 4-6 months for their product is not a sustainable
> business strategy.
>
> I hope nothing but the worst for LRG. And I will not be buying from them ever again.
>
>

I understand the frusteration but the product page literally says "will take 4-5 months to ship." Thats like preordering a game months before release and getting upset when you dont get it in a few weeks. However i know there have been some games such as skullgirls that took way longer than they originally said.

Im not a huge LRG fan either due to their greed though. One example is charging nearly $6 to mail a game via slow UPS innovations when we all know a game can be mailed first class for $3-4. It was also super sketchy that they only have released the final 2 vita games in blind boxes. Lastly, i found it pretty dirty they will release a game like Panzer Dragoon on Switch and immediately after preorders close, they release it on a better system (ps4). They could have easily said up front it would be available on multiple systems.
Admiral
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28-Apr(#69)
Lunar wrote:
> Admiral wrote:
>>
>> Well, I clearly see where you stand on it raspberry
>>
>> I enjoy the titles they bring out and I like to collect. I haven't sold a single
>> LRG game yet, although I do keep them sealed
>
> My point!
>
>> (I buy many of them digitally though, so I'm still playing the games and supporting
> the dev).
>
> This has nothing to do with LRG, you can buy digital copy and support the dev without
> buying LRG.
>
>> There ARE people who do both - play AND buy LRG.
>
> Nope, just scalpers and people who thinks they are "investing".
>
>

The only issue I have with your gripes is that you are totally discounting the collecting aspect. There is nothing wrong with having an interest - whether it's shoes, stamps, coins, sports cards, video games, SEALED video games, etc - and keeping a collection of them for your own pleasure. You can judge all you want, but it's not all about what YOU think it is, just because YOU'RE not interested in it.

You can call LRG slimy or whatever, but they are providing something that was never provided before - games as physical media that were initially digital only. Many of their releases now have no limit on the print run, as long as you purchase it before the deadline.

Eh, it's all how you feel about it. But to assume EVERY person buying from LRG is a scalper or reseller is just silly.

yes good discussion
nonamesleft
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28-Apr(#70)
Lunar wrote:
> I'll take this chance to rant some more about LRG.
>
> I ordered Scott Pilgrim some months ago, and it's still not in my hands.
>
> This business practice of let's collect money, send it to production once we get
> the money, and let people wait 4-6 months for their product is not a sustainable
> business strategy.

This makes me think of a Kickstarter project I once backed that never came to fruition. The creators kept on having delay after delay, and then some. And in the end they didn't come through.

I know it's not the same, but you mentioning the concept of paying in advance for a product that hasn't even entered production brought that to mind.

Kickstarter, I want that watch! (Not going to happen)
Admiral
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28-Apr(#71)
nonamesleft wrote:
> Lunar wrote:
>> I'll take this chance to rant some more about LRG.
>>
>> I ordered Scott Pilgrim some months ago, and it's still not in my hands.
>>
>> This business practice of let's collect money, send it to production once we get
>> the money, and let people wait 4-6 months for their product is not a sustainable
>> business strategy.
>
> This makes me think of a Kickstarter project I once backed that never came to fruition.
> The creators kept on having delay after delay, and then some. And in the end they
> didn't come through.
>
> I know it's not the same, but you mentioning the concept of paying in advance for
> a product that hasn't even entered production brought that to mind.
>
> Kickstarter, I want that watch! (Not going to happen)


Yeah it's pretty insane how that crowdfunding sites work...you literally are NOT buying a product, even though it very much feels like you are preordering something. Especially on something like Indiegogo where you don't even need a prototype.
benstylus
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28-Apr(#72)
The way most project creators and backers treat it is like s preorder system, though.

So legally according to Kickstarter's terms you're not "buying" a product (to protect Kickstarter from lawsuits when projects go belly up), but for all practical purposes that's exactly what people are doing 99% of the time.
Admiral
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28-Apr(#73)
benstylus wrote:
> The way most project creators and backers treat it is like s preorder system, though.
>
>
> So legally according to Kickstarter's terms you're not "buying" a product (to protect
> Kickstarter from lawsuits when projects go belly up), but for all practical purposes
> that's exactly what people are doing 99% of the time.

Oh absolutely, I don't think TOO many Kickstarters end up not coming through with a product, but when/if it does happen, you really don't have an argument.
Gypsy
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28-Apr(#74)
I was thankfully pretty judicious with my kickstarter choices. Though for years now I've only been backing anime blu rays from reputable companies. Been awhile since I did a random game or other project.
benstylus
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28-Apr(#75)
Admiral wrote:
> benstylus wrote:
>> The way most project creators and backers treat it is like s preorder system,
> though.
>>
>>
>> So legally according to Kickstarter's terms you're not "buying" a product (to
> protect
>> Kickstarter from lawsuits when projects go belly up), but for all practical purposes
>> that's exactly what people are doing 99% of the time.
>
> Oh absolutely, I don't think TOO many Kickstarters end up not coming through with
> a product, but when/if it does happen, you really don't have an argument.

Maybe you do, maybe you don't. KS sure wants to make it clear that any promises of rewards from creators are between backers and creators only. I don't know if anyone's suffered a large enough loss from an undelivered project to try to include KS as part of a lawsuit for not enforcing their own rules, and allowing creators to run their campaigns like preorders.

It's probably a fools errand since the backer would have agreed to the KS terms of service, but stranger things have happened.
Admiral
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29-Apr(#76)
The only thing I ever backed was the Ouya surprise

I don't regret it one bit actually. I received the product, I emuated the CRAP out of everything on that liltle machine, and it was my first foray into using XBMC/Kodi. To be honest, I credit the Ouya for ushering in the Android TV / Microconsole era which has turned out to be pretty great. I definitely got my money's worth out of that thing.
Lunar
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29-Apr(#77)
Admiral wrote:
>To be honest, I credit the Ouya for ushering in the Android TV / Microconsole era
> which has turned out to be pretty great.

Why? Because Ouya sold so well and was deemed a commercial success?


Admiral
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29-Apr(#78)
Lunar wrote:
> Admiral wrote:
> |>To be honest, I credit the Ouya for ushering in the Android TV / Microconsole era
>> which has turned out to be pretty great.
>
> Why? Because Ouya sold so well and was deemed a commercial success?
>

I'm not sure if this is sarcastic or ....

What exactly are you asking here? raspberry
Lunar
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29-Apr(#79)
I'm asking why do you credit Ouya for the success of Android TV and Microconsoles?

Admiral
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30-Apr(#80)
Lunar wrote:
> I'm asking why do you credit Ouya for the success of Android TV and Microconsoles?
>
>

I don't think it primarily CAUSED the success of those things, but I do think it played a major role in getting the small console / streaming device craze off and running. Other than Roku and a few niche devices, what all existed before the Ouya?

I don't have scientific evidence to back it up other than a timeline of events...but check out the before/after of the Ouya below. This thing was immensely popular on Kickstarter with tons of hype. Everyone wanted in on it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_microconsole...

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