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Topic   In the market for a new PC.....

Kommie
Triple Gold Good Trader
23-Jan(#1)
It's been a long time since I got a new computer (2009) and I've been out of the loop for awhile. Can someone help me out with a build? Don't want anything too pricey, but don't want junk.+ I do like this Tower:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N...


Thanks for the help, hopefully!
Mir_wan
250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
23-Jan(#2)
your best bet would be to get a prebuilt one. graphics cards are skyrocketed due to mining craze.

do you plan on doing 1080p gaming or higher?
Kommie
Triple Gold Good Trader
23-Jan(#3)
At least 1080, where's a good place to find a pre made? Newegg?
RagingShadow07
GameTZ Subscriber Double Gold Good Trader Has Written 17 Reviews
23-Jan(#4)
Mir_wan wrote:
> your best bet would be to get a prebuilt one. graphics cards are skyrocketed due
> to mining craze.
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> do you plan on doing 1080p gaming or higher?

It absolutely kills me to say this, but that's totally accurate. Even Best Buy has some reasonable deals on RX 570/580 PCs. You'd almost spend as much on the card with jacked up prices as you would the entire build if you bought pre-built.
Kommie
Triple Gold Good Trader
23-Jan(#5)
Mining craze?
PlayYing
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader
23-Jan(#6)
Depending on your budget... You probably want to get a core i5 6th gen or newer (were on 8th gen now) or Ryzen equivalent 1500 or higher. GPU nvidia 1060 or better or amd 570/580 equivalent. 8 gigs of RAM minimum.

@DiamondDave just build one, ask him anything.

Mining craze = asphole miners driving up the price of GPUs for thier mining block chain stuffs
DiamondDave
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* 23-Jan(#7)
https://www.frys.com/product/9394030?site=sr:SEARC...

For the record, that's the case I just bought last month. Understated but still pretty, and I like seeing everything inside. Just ...count on replacing those three front fans, I've got 2/3 of them giving me crap, may or may not have something to do with being placed next to a cold window mid-winter.

Unfortunately with the cost of video cards where it is, I'd frankly tell you to keep your peepers open for rigs going up for sale on Facebook/Craigslist that already have GTX 970 or better/GTX 1060 or better, video cards are virtually nonexistent or so overpriced you shouldn't buy them. If you insist on putting one together yourself with new parts, my best suggestion to you would be to pick a price you're willing to pay for a graphics card retail, and just basically sit on your hands until you walk into Best Buy and WHOA, there's one on the shelf, pick it up, check out and THEN start building a PC around it. Because participating in the third market for video cards right now is ludicrous, and prebuild outfits are starting to bump up their prices. Even retailers are, but it's still not "$750 for a GTX 1060" bad on that end.

You've almost gotta take care of the graphics before you go any further. You may want to wait for the next line of cards to be released and hope you get to be an early adopter. You should NOT buy a used card stand-alone, and you should honestly not really participate in the aftermarket pricing games at all, as this just sustains this nasty situation.

I picked up a 1080 for $550 at Best Buy, out of sheer luck (maybe people were out of money after Christmas, but I had $250 in gift cards to blow), that card now goes for $800 on eBay. Not even 3 weeks later.
tonymack21
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23-Jan(#8)
I got a decent deal on Dell outlet.. but you gotta be careful the prices are really a good deal

RagingShadow07
GameTZ Subscriber Double Gold Good Trader Has Written 17 Reviews
23-Jan(#9)
The saving grace of buying a prebuilt is that it's usually a good foundation for upgrading down the line, especially if you get an AMD Ryzen based build. You can pop in a new CPU later (with an updated BIOS), update the graphics card, etc. Most of the iBuyPower stuff in Best Buy is effectively a pre-built using off-the-shelf parts (parts you can buy individually), so it's much less, if at all, proprietary.

Check Reddit's r/buildapcsales frequently. Right now with the mining craze killing GPU prices and RAM prices through the roof they post good deals on pre-builts every now and then.

Kommie
Triple Gold Good Trader
24-Jan(#10)
So, for something mid - range would this do, as well as be upgradeable:


https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-amd...

PlayYing
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader
24-Jan(#11)
Kommie wrote:
> So, for something mid - range would this do, as well as be upgradeable:
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Better here

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/7s...
Mir_wan
250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
24-Jan(#12)
Kommie wrote:
> So, for something mid - range would this do, as well as be upgradeable:
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Thats a little to much on the low end. I would try to get at least a 1050 ti. Possibly a Ryzen 3 if you can.
DiamondDave
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* 24-Jan(#13)
Yeah, GT cards are essentially throw-aways unless you're just watching Youtube, and even then you're capped at 1080p.

Try this one instead: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-omen-by-hp-desktop...

It's only a 3GB card but it's better than a kick in the ass. It'll get you started. If DDR4 wasn't so friggin' expensive I'd say just go 8th Gen Intel, those prices on CPUs and mobos are damn yummy. My hardest decision was deciding between a $250 board and a $100 board, and that's a good problem to have, but the RAM's almost as expensive as the fudging CPU.
Kommie
Triple Gold Good Trader
24-Jan(#14)
DiamondDave wrote:
> Yeah, GT cards are essentially throw-aways unless you're just watching Youtube, and
> even then you're capped at 1080p.
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> It's only a 3GB card but it's better than a kick in the ass. It'll get you started.
> If DDR4 wasn't so friggin' expensive I'd say just go 8th Gen Intel, those prices
> on CPUs and mobos are damn yummy. My hardest decision was deciding between a $250
> board and a $100 board, and that's a good problem to have, but the RAM's almost as
> expensive as the fudging CPU.


Is that upgradeable? Case looks kinda small in the pictures.
DiamondDave
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* 24-Jan(#15)
I'm sure it is. Looks like a normal mid tower. Worst case, strip it and toss the case, it's important to not be too attached to the nonessentials in these prebuilds
Kommie
Triple Gold Good Trader
24-Jan(#16)
Ah, OK. Might go to Best Buy at some point to look at it, it's a display model apparently
Ranchan
GameTZ Subscriber Double Gold Good Trader Has Written 9 Reviews
25-Jan(#17)
re: prebuilds w/ intention to upgrade. My bro bought me a cheap desktower (for 300 bucks) a while back and I was planning to upgrade the video card later. It turns out my system had a 300W power supply while the video cards I wanted need a 600 W supply to use. So be sure to check how much wattage the prebuilt's power supply uses. It's likely to be 300 W for a budget system.
Kommie
Triple Gold Good Trader
25-Jan(#18)
DiamondDave wrote:
> Yeah, GT cards are essentially throw-aways unless you're just watching Youtube, and
> even then you're capped at 1080p.
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> It's only a 3GB card but it's better than a kick in the ass. It'll get you started.
> If DDR4 wasn't so friggin' expensive I'd say just go 8th Gen Intel, those prices
> on CPUs and mobos are damn yummy. My hardest decision was deciding between a $250
> board and a $100 board, and that's a good problem to have, but the RAM's almost as
> expensive as the fudging CPU


What about this:


https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-ul...

Saw this in store as well as the other one. This tower is much bigger.

DiamondDave
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25-Jan(#19)
It is. Not sure how an RX 580 stacks up to a GTX 1060. Could be the way to go. yes
DiamondDave
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25-Jan(#20)
lol, newegg's attaching clearance items to cards to justify gross markups

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N...
Kommie
Triple Gold Good Trader
25-Jan(#21)
Think I may bite the bullet and put it on my Best Buy credit card that hasn't been used in over a year...
Kommie
Triple Gold Good Trader
26-Jan(#22)
Upgrading RAM, I only need to stay with the same specs, not necessarily the same BRAND, right?


DDR4 8gb 2400
DiamondDave
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* 26-Jan(#23)
Keep in mind, I believe all DDR4 RAM runs at the same frequency by default, it's whether your motherboard supports an XMP (overclock profile essentially) that can run it higher (unless you want to do the work manually which sounds tedious) so don't pay too much attention to the speed rating unless you're looking at your motherboard's XMP list and are shooting for a specific RAM speed. Not all motherboards will run all RAM identically out of the box. Figured that one out when I bought an "1800MHz DDR3" double stick kit that only ran at 1433 or something.

When running dual channel you should keep your make and model identical, so buy in at least pairs.
proudtobelatino
Quadruple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
* 26-Jan(#24)
I would stay away from brands like I buypower and cyberpower. They are not good quality and have bad warranty. Last I checked from Best Buy I thought Cybertron Desktops was the best option becuase of quality and price, atleast for the higher end cards like 1070+ Not sure about the rest.
proudtobelatino
Quadruple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
26-Jan(#25)
Also Watch out for sales Best Buy has a lot of pc sales, well atleast when I was shopping for a pc I kept seeing sales pop up. Micro center sometimes has some good PCs for a good price.

Topic   In the market for a new PC.....