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Topic   The Attomwaffen Division

MikeyWhoa
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31-Jan(#1)
Anybody aware of them? Just now learning about the latest trendy terrorist group. Already tied to 5 murders and a foiled bomb plot in the last 8 months.


Checked out their website for arguments sake. Not going to link it. They seem like a lovely bunch.

I imagine we'll be hearing more and more about them in the next few years as white supremacy continues to be empowered.


Dustin
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31-Jan(#2)
MikeyWhoa wrote:
> I imagine we'll be hearing more and more about them in the next few years as white
> supremacy continues to be empowered.
>
>

When you say things like this it takes away from any point you're trying to make.

This gang or whatever they are look like bad people. Don't know that anyone would empower them to do anything.
Feeb
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31-Jan(#3)
Fudge. The white supremacists are coming onto the national stage again for some reason. Denying this?
yankees7448
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31-Jan(#4)
According to Trump they won't become a real threat until one of them is caught eating Halal food.
MikeyWhoa
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Dustin wrote:
> MikeyWhoa wrote:
>> I imagine we'll be hearing more and more about them in the next few years as white
>> supremacy continues to be empowered.
>>
>>
>
> When you say things like this it takes away from any point you're trying to make.
>
> This gang or whatever they are look like bad people. Don't know that anyone would
> empower them to do anything.


It's just factual brother. Hate is back in business, and business is booming!

You're sort of putting words into my mouth. I never said that any one thing or person is empowering white supremacists. Just that they are empowered right now. They feel more comfortable out in the open again, and are gaining power in small doses because of that exposure.

We can go back and forth as to why that is, but that's not the issue at hand. The "Nazis" are blowing up brother. Whether you believe it or not.

Do you not believe that white supremacy is empowered and on the rise right now?
Dustin
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31-Jan(#6)
IMO exposure doesn't equal empowerment.
Feeb
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31-Jan(#7)
The O is the key.
MikeyWhoa
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31-Jan(#8)
And just as meaningful as F's anymore, I'm sorry to say.
Dustin
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31-Jan(#9)
Feeb wrote:
> The O is the key.

That's why I said it. Are you arguing otherwise? Exposure is equivalent to empowerment?

These hate groups have always existed. They just weren't talked about as much. They've been given no power.
MikeyWhoa
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1-Feb(#10)
Evidence and I disagree with you @Dustin.

But Jesus and I love you.
Feeb
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1-Feb(#11)
Absolutely. Being on television- any media exposure is empowerment. The old saying "any press is good press" means exactly that. Get your message out. Empowerment is simply getting the means to get closer to ones goals.

Very nearly the denotation of empowerment.

Feeb
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1-Feb(#12)
I don't think anyone has placed blame- probably shock you to know who I blame at this point.
MikeyWhoa
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1-Feb(#13)
I bet it's the Jews.
Feeb
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1-Feb(#14)
Worse.
ninesalone
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Feeb wrote:
> Absolutely. Being on television- any media exposure is empowerment. The old saying
> "any press is good press" means exactly that. Get your message out. Empowerment is
> simply getting the means to get closer to ones goals.
>
> Very nearly the denotation of empowerment.

Glad you see that it's the American press that is responsible for the division.

Because the media highlights what you called earlier, "outliers," in an attempt to smear the other side using guilt by association. Skinheads, Neo-Nazis, the KKK have NO institutional power. The KKK did in the past when it was the militant wing of the Democratic party. While nowadays they may gain a few idiots among their ranks with the media exposure, their views are rejected almost wholly by the side they're accused of representing.

I never heard of almost all of these fringe groups or their supposed leaders before they were blasted all over the media alongside average conservative commentators and the president. I have looked into some the media like to highlight the most, like Richard Spencer. After watching a long debate including people from all points of view, I've learned he isn't some monster promoting racial genocide. He's still very wrong in his ideas about ethnic nationalism. He's still extremely racist. His arguments are well rebutted by several on both sides.

My point is the media also misrepresents people it's at odds with. They make even the most fringe individuals even more fringe, even something to fear, to fight back with violence. It's not Donald Trump stoking hate and resentment. It's not Donald Trump 'empowering' these fringe elements.
Feeb
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1-Feb(#16)
Absolutely correct. Donald is here as a response. He didn't create this issue, but he does promote and allow for it. Creating distrust for the institution is an open door for fringe.

People like Spencer are not evil. Just naive and shallow. They truly believe what they espouse. Integrity is virtuous. But integrity cannot be stronger than your basis.

Bad apples and the bunch. They spoil it. But they also create it.
Dustin
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1-Feb(#17)
So how do we feel about this black nationalist movement?

I imagine we'll be hearing more and more about them in the next few years as black supremacy continues to be empowered.
MikeyWhoa
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1-Feb(#18)
Could you be more specific please? Including links to references would be helpful.
Dustin
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1-Feb(#19)
MikeyWhoa wrote:
> Could you be more specific please? Including links to references would be helpful.

You can google it pretty easily.
MikeyWhoa
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1-Feb(#20)
Sigh.

I was going to ask you a question, but getting an actual answer is futile.

Instead, as you read this, just ask yourself this question.

Why am I getting so defensive when someone mentions the re-emergence of very vocal white supremacist groups?
Dustin
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1-Feb(#21)
Feel free to ask any questions you want. Just don't ask those dumb rhetorical ones where you pretend you're curious but no one actually believes you. (though I do realize the above question is one of them as well)

You didn't mention emergence, you mentioned empowerment. There's a difference.

The defensiveness comes from the insinuation that Trump/conservatives are the ones empowering these hate groups. While you can play the "oh I never said that, don't put words in my mouth" card, your posting history would say otherwise.

These hate groups and the people in them are despicable, vile beings. Just because the liberal media wants to try and sway people to view all conservatives as part of these groups, doesn't make it remotely true.
MikeyWhoa
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* 1-Feb(#22)
Dustin wrote:
> Feel free to ask any questions you want. Just don't ask those dumb rhetorical ones
> where you pretend you're curious but no one actually believes you. (though I do realize
> the above question is one of them as well)


That's unfortunate. You're wrong, again. I don't understand this insistence that I'm always lying to you. Have I lied to you before? That you are sure of? Not just assuming I mean.


> You didn't mention emergence, you mentioned empowerment. There's a difference.
>
> The defensiveness comes from the insinuation that Trump/conservatives are the ones
> empowering these hate groups. While you can play the "oh I never said that, don't
> put words in my mouth" card, your posting history would say otherwise.


You're getting defensive about words I didn't say, and injecting your own thoughts and presumptions. I'm not a 14 year old girl brother. I'm a 35 year old father of two. I mean what I say. I know what I'm trying to convey, you don't. If there's confusion, then ask. Or just keep assuming wrong.


>
> These hate groups and the people in them are despicable, vile beings. Just because
> the liberal media wants to try and sway people to view all conservatives as part
> of these groups, doesn't make it remotely true.


I post info about a terrorist organization that I've never heard of, in the hopes a discussion would follow with hopefully more information so I can better understand them. I also happened to mention the FACT that they are empowered right now.

No mention of Trump.

No mention of Conservatives.

No one in this thread attacked either of them. No one in this thread accused all Conservatives of being a part of this group. You jumped to every one of those conclusions on your own, and started taking it personally. This isn't about you, or Conservatives, or Trump. It's about a white supremacist group that is murdering people.

Stop trying to be a fudging martyr and listen. Then perhaps we can carry on.
Osiris
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1-Feb(#23)
the Black Panther movie comes out this month, be like 1968 all over again!

Oh, wait, nobody was around for those days and events.
Dustin
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1-Feb(#24)
MikeyWhoa wrote:
> Dustin wrote:
>> Feel free to ask any questions you want. Just don't ask those dumb rhetorical
> ones
>> where you pretend you're curious but no one actually believes you. (though I do
> realize
>> the above question is one of them as well)
>
>
> That's unfortunate. You're wrong, again. I don't understand this insistence that
> I'm always lying to you. Have I lied to you before? That you are sure of? Not just
> assuming I mean.
>
>

I didn't mean that you lied. I meant that you ask stupid questions that have extremely simple answers. The only reasons someone would do that is either they're really dumb, or they're pretending to be curious to try and prove a point. Like I said before, I don't think you're dumb, so it would have to be the latter. Maybe I'm wrong though.

>> You didn't mention emergence, you mentioned empowerment. There's a difference.
>
>>
>> The defensiveness comes from the insinuation that Trump/conservatives are the
> ones
>> empowering these hate groups. While you can play the "oh I never said that, don't
>> put words in my mouth" card, your posting history would say otherwise.
>
>
> You're getting defensive about words I didn't say, and injecting your own thoughts
> and presumptions. I'm not a 14 year old girl brother. I'm a 35 year old father of
> two. I mean what I say. I know what I'm trying to convey, you don't. If there's confusion,
> then ask. Or just keep assuming wrong.

So you didn't mean that these groups are being empowered by Trump, his base or conservatives in general? If not, then I apologize. Who is empowering them then?

>
>
>>
>> These hate groups and the people in them are despicable, vile beings. Just because
>> the liberal media wants to try and sway people to view all conservatives as part
>> of these groups, doesn't make it remotely true.
>
>
> I post info about a terrorist organization that I've never heard of, in the hopes
> a discussion would follow with hopefully more information so I can better understand
> them. I also happened to mention the FACT that they are empowered right now.
>
>
> No mention of Trump.
>
> No mention of Conservatives.

Ok, empowered by who?

>
> No one in this thread attacked either of them. No one in this thread accused all
> Conservatives of being a part of this group. You jumped to every one of those conclusions
> on your own, and started taking it personally. This isn't about you, or Conservatives,
> or Trump. It's about a white supremacist group that is murdering people.
>

97% (roughly) of the posts you make here take a passive aggressive shot against Trump or conservatives. Sorry for jumping to conclusions based on previous posts.
Dustin
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1-Feb(#25)
Also if we're equating media coverage to empowerment, then black supremecy is being empowered as well, along with many other less than desirable groups/people. That's all I was saying.
Feeb
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* 1-Feb(#26)
Dustin wrote:
> So how do we feel about this black nationalist movement?
>
> I imagine we'll be hearing more and more about them in the next few years as black
> supremacy continues to be empowered.

You certainly will. There will be a massive pushback.

Seems more of an anarchist than a nationalist thing. Quite anti national.
MikeyWhoa
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* 1-Feb(#27)
@Dustin

To answer your "Who then" question.

Certainly the sensationalists in the media. Especially the 24 Networks desperate for a lead that bleeds. Add to the list:

Social Media in general
David Duke
Richard Spencer
Milo Yiannopoulos
Baked Alaska
Matthew Heimbach
Mike Enoch
Andrew "weev" Auernheimer
James Edwards and the Political Sesspool

Has Trump "empowered" the likes of The Attomwaffen Division and other groups? In short, no I don't believe so. He never tied himself directly to any of them, they tied themselves to him. However, I will say this, he's done very little to shake them off.

There is a rise in these groups, and this way of thinking. He needs to recognize that, and act accordingly. These are terrorists. (The Attomwaffen Division. Not my list of non-violent butt-holes who just preach and spread this nonsense.) The only differences between them and the likes of ISIS are their religious beliefs, and the fact that ISIS is diminishing, and these fudges are on the way up.
Feeb
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1-Feb(#28)
I'm surprised how quiet the Black Muslim community is these days. I guess being and black and Muslim these days is different than the 50s and 60s? How would I know.
Osiris
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Feeb wrote:
> IÂ'm surprised how quiet the Black Muslim community is these days. I guess being and
> black and Muslim these days is different than the 50s and 60s? How would I know.
>
a lot different from time of Ali, Kareem, Malcolm X and other high profile folks, in this environment you got 2 plus strikes for being black and Muslim, i can see keeping a low profile. So there are black activist orgs chanting for whitey to go back to Norway, Poland, et al? Chit!
Karaiya
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**Dustin wrote:*

>
> The defensiveness comes from the insinuation that Trump/conservatives are the ones
> empowering these hate groups. While you can play the "oh I never said that, don't
> put words in my mouth" card, your posting history would say otherwise.

They are. They are the most supportive part of his base Dustin. We know you're not one of them but don't deny that white supremacist extremist groups are right wing conservatives. This is isnt the media portraying this the FBI states this.

>
> These hate groups and the people in them are despicable, vile beings. Just because
> the liberal media wants to try and sway people to view all conservatives as part
> of these groups, doesn't make it remotely true.

Not all conservatives indeed. Everyone, has historically has a problem with kind of letting these kinds of fringe groups gain empowerment. Whether intentionally or not I think this administrations policies and rhetoric do empower these kinds of extremist on the right.

Karaiya
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Osiris wrote:
> Feeb wrote:
>> IÂ'm surprised how quiet the Black Muslim community is these days. I guess being
> and
>> black and Muslim these days is different than the 50s and 60s? How would I know.
>>
> a lot different from time of Ali, Kareem, Malcolm X and other high profile folks,
> in this environment you got 2 plus strikes for being black and Muslim, i can see
> keeping a low profile. So there are black activist orgs chanting for whitey to go
> back to Norway, Poland, et al? Chit!

Black Muslims as in NOI? (Nation of Islam) or black Muslims? They practice an almost completely different religion. Traditonal Muslims dont recognize the NOI.

The NOI still does a lot of activist work. They aren't quiet necessarily they work with Black Lives Matter and other Black liberation groups often. They just haven't been as picked up by media outlets recently.
Karaiya
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Dustin wrote:
> So how do we feel about this black nationalist movement?
>
> I imagine we'll be hearing more and more about them in the next few years as black
> supremacy continues to be empowered.

Dustin where in this country is there any black supremacy? This is not a reasonable response. I assume you are being sarcastic.
Feeb
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1-Feb(#33)
Karaiya wrote:
> Osiris wrote:
>> Feeb wrote:
> |>> IÂ'm surprised how quiet the Black Muslim community is these days. I guess being
>> and
> |>> black and Muslim these days is different than the 50s and 60s? How would I know.
> |>>
>> a lot different from time of Ali, Kareem, Malcolm X and other high profile folks,
>> in this environment you got 2 plus strikes for being black and Muslim, i can see
>> keeping a low profile. So there are black activist orgs chanting for whitey to
> go
>> back to Norway, Poland, et al? Chit!
>
> Black Muslims as in NOI? (Nation of Islam) or black Muslims? They practice an
> almost completely different religion. Traditonal Muslims dont recognize the NOI.
>
> The NOI still does a lot of activist work. They aren't quiet necessarily they work
> with Black Lives Matter and other Black liberation groups often. They just haven't
> been as picked up by media outlets recently.

I was referring to the collective nationalist type Muslims including the NoI. Just seems quiet on that front. Sorry to be muddy there.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Muslims

That's about all that know about it.
Karaiya
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You're right in the sense it has been quiet I think. But also, this administration dominates the news cycle like nothing I've ever seen so its probably why we don't hear alot about all the other crazy crap going. Flint, MI still doesn't have clean water.
Feeb
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Maybe nationalists are just happy all around right now.
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MikeyWhoa wrote:
> Dustin wrote:
>> MikeyWhoa wrote:
> |>> I imagine we'll be hearing more and more about them in the next few years as
> white
> |>> supremacy continues to be empowered.
> |>>
> |>>
>>
>> When you say things like this it takes away from any point you're trying to make.
>>
>> This gang or whatever they are look like bad people. Don't know that anyone would
>> empower them to do anything.
>
>
>
> You're sort of putting words into my mouth. I never said that any one thing or person
> is empowering white supremacists. Just that they are empowered right now. They feel
> more comfortable out in the open again, and are gaining power in small doses because
> of that exposure.
>
> We can go back and forth as to why that is, but that's not the issue at hand. The
> "Nazis" are blowing up brother. Whether you believe it or not.
>
> Do you not believe that white supremacy is empowered and on the rise right now?

@MikeyWhoa I have to wonder if you are deliberate in posting such intellectually dishonest drivel that is easily refuted, or if you genuinely don't know any better? I say this because you quote an article by cbsnews that uses the Southern Poverty Law Center as it's sole source. Here are a few sources on the veracity (dubious, deceitful, misleading, outright lying) claims of who constitutes a "hate-group" in America.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/08/s...

http://www.johntanton.org/answering_my_critics/sou...

http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/civil-rights-...

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/326191

http://www.wnd.com/2017/10/will-pro-splc-media-rob...

PS - Adding the line "It's just factual brother" doesn't really make it factual, for future reference.
MikeyWhoa
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Kblazer883 wrote:
> MikeyWhoa wrote:
>> Dustin wrote:
> |>> MikeyWhoa wrote:
>> |>> I imagine we'll be hearing more and more about them in the next few years
> as
>> white
>> |>> supremacy continues to be empowered.
>> |>>
>> |>>
> |>>
> |>> When you say things like this it takes away from any point you're trying to make.
> |>>
> |>> This gang or whatever they are look like bad people. Don't know that anyone would
> |>> empower them to do anything.
>>
>>
>>
>> You're sort of putting words into my mouth. I never said that any one thing or
> person
>> is empowering white supremacists. Just that they are empowered right now. They
> feel
>> more comfortable out in the open again, and are gaining power in small doses because
>> of that exposure.
>>
>> We can go back and forth as to why that is, but that's not the issue at hand.
> The
>> "Nazis" are blowing up brother. Whether you believe it or not.
>>
>> Do you not believe that white supremacy is empowered and on the rise right now?
>
> @MikeyWhoa I have to wonder if you are deliberate in posting such intellectually
> dishonest drivel that is easily refuted, or if you genuinely don't know any better?
> I say this because you quote an article by cbsnews that uses the Southern Poverty
> Law Center as it's sole source. Here are a few sources on the veracity (dubious,
> deceitful, misleading, outright lying) claims of who constitutes a "hate-group" in
> America.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> PS - Adding the line "It's just factual brother" doesn't really make it factual,
> for future reference.


It wasn't my sole source. It was merely the sole source I shared. I also went straight to the source, the website of this clearly despicable hate group. I just refused to link to their website to not encourage any more clicks. I mentioned this in the OP, which you conveniently left out of your quoted reply. It's right there if you'd like to read again and correct yourself.

Secondly, I understand your disdain for the SPLC, I just don't see why your bringing them up. Nobody here was concerned with them. This conversation was about the rise in violence from The Attomwaffen Division, clearly a White Supremacist hate group according to their website. I don't need the SPLC to see this. I didn't care about the source used in the CBSnews article. I studied the group myself.

I'm more than happy to discuss the SPLC, but it's best we start a different thread since is doesn't really have anything to do with this conversation. So as not to derail this conversation any further.

As to your links and sources, I checked them all, and didn't see one mention of The Attomwaffen Division. Just arguments about how the "SPLC 'Hate Map' Targets Christians, Pro-Family Groups". Certainly you're not suggesting that The Attomwaffen Division is a Christian Pro-Family group, right? Sorry to ruin your red pill attempt, but I don't see the point of your post.

What are your thoughts on the subject at hand? Do you have any opinions on the [re]rise of hate groups, specifically The Attomwaffen Division?

Lastly, I'd love to hear how "The Attomwaffen Division is a White Supremacist hate group" is not factual. I mean, their website clearly states at the bottom that it's "Powered by your local Nazis!"
Kblazer883
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MikeyWhoa wrote:
> Kblazer883 wrote:
>> MikeyWhoa wrote:
> |>> Dustin wrote:
>> |>> MikeyWhoa wrote:
> |>> |>> I imagine we'll be hearing more and more about them in the next few years
>> as
> |>> white
> |>> |>> supremacy continues to be empowered.
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>> When you say things like this it takes away from any point you're trying to
> make.
>> |>>
>> |>> This gang or whatever they are look like bad people. Don't know that anyone
> would
>> |>> empower them to do anything.
> |>>
> |>>
> |>>
> |>> You're sort of putting words into my mouth. I never said that any one thing or
>> person
> |>> is empowering white supremacists. Just that they are empowered right now. They
>> feel
> |>> more comfortable out in the open again, and are gaining power in small doses
> because
> |>> of that exposure.
> |>>
> |>> We can go back and forth as to why that is, but that's not the issue at hand.
>> The
> |>> "Nazis" are blowing up brother. Whether you believe it or not.
> |>>
> |>> Do you not believe that white supremacy is empowered and on the rise right now?
>>
>> @MikeyWhoa I have to wonder if you are deliberate in posting such intellectually
>> dishonest drivel that is easily refuted, or if you genuinely don't know any better?
>> I say this because you quote an article by cbsnews that uses the Southern Poverty
>> Law Center as it's sole source. Here are a few sources on the veracity (dubious,
>> deceitful, misleading, outright lying) claims of who constitutes a "hate-group"
> in
>> America.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> PS - Adding the line "It's just factual brother" doesn't really make it factual,
>> for future reference.
>
>
> It wasn't my sole source. It was merely the sole source I shared. I also went straight
> to the source, the website of this clearly despicable hate group. I just refused
> to link to their website to not encourage any more clicks. I mentioned this in the
> OP, which you conveniently left out of your quoted reply. It's right there if you'd
> like to read again and correct yourself.
>
> Secondly, I understand your disdain for the SPLC, I just don't see why your bringing
> them up. Nobody here was concerned with them. This conversation was about the rise
> in violence from The Attomwaffen Division, clearly a White Supremacist hate group
> according to their website. I don't need the SPLC to see this. I didn't care about
> the source used in the CBSnews article. I studied the group myself.
>
> I'm more than happy to discuss the SPLC, but it's best we start a different thread
> since is doesn't really have anything to do with this conversation. So as not to
> derail this conversation any further.
>
> As to your links and sources, I checked them all, and didn't see one mention of The
> Attomwaffen Division. Just arguments about how the "SPLC 'Hate Map' Targets Christians,
> Pro-Family Groups". Certainly you're not suggesting that The Attomwaffen Division
> is a Christian Pro-Family group, right? Sorry to ruin your red pill attempt, but
> I don't see the point of your post.
>
> What are your thoughts on the subject at hand? Do you have any opinions on the [re]rise
> of hate groups, specifically The Attomwaffen Division?
>
> Lastly, I'd love to hear how "The Attomwaffen Division is a White Supremacist hate
> group" is not factual. I mean, their website clearly states at the bottom that it's
> "Powered by your local Nazis!"

I know you don't see the point of my post because you didn't address it. You just tried to say that I argued that Atomwaffen Division is not a racist orgainization.

You did not cite more than 1 source in your comment that I responded to so I responded to you using only 1 source. I don't read minds and I am not doing any research for you (other than trying to help you make valid arguments rather than emotional pleas, ad hominem's, reduction to the absurd, etc etc [again see Chapter 7 of the book I told you about previously]).

I addressed your usage of SPLC as a source for who is designated as a hate group in the US. You obviously did not read any more of the articles I linked other than the first couple sentences.

You have this (liberal) habit of injecting things into my comments that I haven't said. Your brain seems to uncontrollably project additional things into what I say. You should stop doing that and simply address my comments. Since your mind reading powers are so powerful you should try to be an international mediator. Maybe you can clear things up between North Korea and the United States (reduction to the absurd argument).

Lastly, I have tried to help you out by pointing to a very good resource to help you make competent arguments. You don't seem to have a desire to do that. "It's not worthwhile to reason with people if they're irrational, Epstein, 2011, (p.29).
Feeb
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16-Feb(#39)
"I don't read minds..."

"...Your brain seems to uncontrollably project additional things into what I say..."

A little Protagorean misdirection.
MikeyWhoa
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16-Feb(#40)
Kblazer883 wrote:
> A bunch more unrelated nonsense.

Again, I did not use the SPLC as a source. CBS did. I linked it so people could read about the crimes The Attomwaffen Division is accused of. I used the official website of The Attomwaffen Division as a source to call them a hate group. It makes it abundantly clear. I just did not, and will not link it. It's very easy to find on your own. Why do you keep glancing over this fact?

Again, you went on another diatribe about how I (and liberals) are dumb, herp derp we are the only enlightened ones, without even mentioning the issue at hand. This thread is about a specific hate group. You haven't discussed them at all. If you'd like to start another conversation, please use a new thread.

Also, I have made no assumptions. I merely asked questions. You refuse to answer them. So I'll challenge you to them again.

What are your thoughts on the subject at hand? Do you have any opinions on the [re]rise of hate groups, specifically The Attomwaffen Division?

Lastly, I'd love to hear how "The Attomwaffen Division is a White Supremacist hate group" is not factual. I mean, their website clearly states at the bottom that it's "Powered by your local Nazis!"
Feeb
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* 28-Feb(#41)
Division called for race wars, YouTube banned.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/zmwknw/...


FYI: this is not contradictory to the first amendment.
Osiris
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28-Feb(#42)
ya know, Feeb I read here that there are only about 30 of these guys around, so no worries. Just nativism after all

Topic   The Attomwaffen Division