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Topic   Nintendo Labo is Coming

Boss
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17-Jan(#1)
https://youtu.be/P3Bd3HUMkyU
klusion
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* 17-Jan(#2)
Neat? And I don't say it like that to be a douche. I really don't get whether I should be excited or not.

tonymack21
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17-Jan(#3)
Seems dangerous for the joycons.?

I'd still rather have online to match the others and good virtual console :/

bonham2
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17-Jan(#4)
Seriously? Nintendo is just trolling us all hard right now. They're planning on selling Labo for $70 and the robot kit well be $80...for cardboard inserts.
DefaultGen
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17-Jan(#5)
Expensive cardboard Wii peripherals. No thanks. I get that it's aimed at kids. For $150 I'd rather have one nice peripheral than a bunch of cardboard ones.

tonymack21
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17-Jan(#6)
Definitely..and here I've been hyping switch to people telling them nintendo has ditched the gimmicks and focusing on games again.

DefaultGen
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17-Jan(#7)
So it looks like it makes a lot of use of their "eat the sandwich sensor" on the joycons. That's neat from a tech demo perspective. 1-2 Switch taught me not to buy joycon tech demos though.

Shane12m
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17-Jan(#8)
I have 3 year old and 1 year old. This looks like a lot of fun
KillerKlown
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17-Jan(#9)
I just wish it wasn't cardboard. From a collectors standpoint I'd never want to open it.
I guess I'll wait until I can get these for around $20.
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17-Jan(#10)
klusion
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17-Jan(#11)
https://www.polygon.com/2018/1/17/16903136/nintend...

seriously? this solves the problem? how bout not having trash peripherals? I think that solves the problem too.

Missile
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17-Jan(#12)
I never thought they would find a way to make rob worse, then they decided to make him out of cardboard and charge 80 dollars.
Shane12m
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* 17-Jan(#13)
PizzaTheHutt wrote:
> {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/jjkar7F.jpg 595 224{imgt}

Typical anti nintendo post. It's more then just cardboard. It looks awesome
tonymack21
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* 17-Jan(#14)
is it seriously 80 bucks!!!??? def not gonna spend that on cardboard controllers


Missile
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17-Jan(#15)
The one with cardboard "fudge you diy" rob is, otherwise it's 69.99.
NotCD
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* 17-Jan(#16)
Shane12m wrote:
> I have 3 year old and 1 year old. This looks like a lot of fun

I have the exact same.

My thought was FUN...for them to absolutely destroy that cardboard instantly...

annnnnnnnnd my one year old attempting to eat the scattered remains.
Karaiya
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17-Jan(#17)
I believe in everything this is.
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17-Jan(#18)
Poop.
Scott
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18-Jan(#19)
tonymack21 wrote:
> Definitely..and here I've been hyping switch to people telling them nintendo has
> ditched the gimmicks and focusing on games again.

One gimmick completely destroys that!

Boss
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18-Jan(#20)
It's priced to high. If it was $49.99 or lower I could see people buying it for their kids.
theJaw
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* 18-Jan(#21)
Nothing new to see here, been using Labo all year

image
klusion
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18-Jan(#22)
theJaw wrote:
> Nothing new to see here, been using Labo all year
>
> {imgt}http://i63.tinypic.com/t9wcyb.jpg 480 640{imgt}

laughing out loud yes

Admiral
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18-Jan(#23)
Labo? More like LaboR....amirite????/??
youllbejustfine
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18-Jan(#24)
I actually think it's brilliant: Cheap but strong material, teaches instructional building/mechanics/STEM skills, customizable, and is interactive!

And for all the people griping about cost- these are only a little bit more than a regular priced game, and they do come with software. That Robot Kit is "Project Giant Robot", and the Variety Kit comes with 5 interactive toys and a mini-game collection. Kids will eat this up.

And reality is, cardboard means that they can keep the cost down and be environmentally conscious (material and shipping). This is a good thing- plastic is destroying us. Look at all of of Guitar Hero guitars at thrift stores. Lets let our preciousness of the commodity die, and allow things to last as long as they're fun, then recycle them into something new.
youllbejustfine
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18-Jan(#25)
For anyone who wants to see what's included in each package:
https://labo.nintendo.com/kits/variety-kit/
https://labo.nintendo.com/kits/robot-kit/
theJaw
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* 18-Jan(#26)
I posted a silly photo but I do actually think Labo is cool. It'll probably come off a lot cooler for kids, but this really is a creative aspect of the Switch that I didn't see coming whatsoever.

Mass-producing cut-out cardboard pieces is a little... out of nowhere... but if it's easy enough to put together without being an engineer, Labo could actually be really neat to play around with.

$80 is too much for me - but if you have a kid interested in Labo, I don't think that's asking too much if it comes with all that's advertised. If it's a game with all the different programs built-in, and the set comes with ALL the pieces for each thing advertised, AND if the cardboard is a little stronger than your run-of-the-mill garbage, I don't think $80 is too rough.

Just can't wait to hear about this after someone buys it and it bends, or they spill water on it, or some other similar user error situation pops up, and they inevitably blame Nintendo for selling cardboard... that they willingly bought and couldn't take care of. yes
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* 18-Jan(#27)
To everyone crapting on the idea:

1. Yes, the fact that it's not Plastic is very cool, wake the fudge up.
2. Do you know... how long... how many tools... and how much engineering it would take to mock up that $80 kit to do what it does and look AND actually perform that solid? You'd be working slave wages to equal the cost; the package is ready to go and simple enough a kid can crack it open and start having fun with it and it doesn't look like ghetto trashbin crap, it actually looks nice. AND they get to use it to play a fudging video game. Go ahead, I'll wait for you to figure out how to code in Unity.

COULD you do this at a base level, just the apparatus, with Amazon boxes, enough of them? Probably, but that crap ain't free either, and it's also got their crap plastered all over it and has gone through all the hells entailed with UPS, FedEx, DHL and/or USPS transit. Would I buy it? Hell naw, but I can see the value because I'm not an butt-hole. That said, the jokes and memes are still hilarious.
theJaw
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18-Jan(#28)
DiamondDave wrote:
>
> COULD you do this with Amazon boxes, enough of them? Probably, but that crap ain't
> free either, and it's also got their crap plastered all over it.

Let's be real, most of the folks claiming they could "do the same thing with any box" would probably give up trying after 2 minutes without any guidelines. That alone makes this worth it for anyone actually interested in what Labo does - the guidelines that will help you assemble it. It's engineering, but because it isn't the most flashy gimmick, and doesn't create an even LARGER plastic output, it's immediately written off by the people who wouldn't even be interested in it to begin with.

I mean, honestly, if you look at this and say "THAT'S DUMB", you have your own issues. If you don't want it, do what I'm doing and don't buy it - but I really don't see the point in the people who are getting legit MAD about something that presents a little creativity past just game-playing. "Oh, this isn't something I personally think is cool? STUPID, DUMB NINTENDO. WHAT IDIOTS! THIS IS ROB THE ROBOT AGAIN (just, you know, mechanically upgraded in every single way) DUMB IDIOT NINTENDO!"

lpeters82
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18-Jan(#29)
Hmm...and I just repurchased NTDOY stock a few days ago.
darkslime
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* 18-Jan(#30)
All I know is pieces of cardboard are going to be a lot of money on ebay. How long til mad catz makes 3rd party cardboard that's really thin.

Either that or its going to tank horribly, but probably not because it's nintendo
theJaw
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18-Jan(#31)
I wonder if anyone on eBay would buy a lot of just some nice cardboard for $80 if someone slapped "PERFECT FOR NINTENDO LABO!" in the header.
Missile
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* 18-Jan(#32)
No, i don't think nintendo is particularly stupid. The people who look at Lucky Charms: Mario edition or a bunch of cardboard with a stupid app, and think "yeah, that's worth 12 bucks a box or 80 bucks to make my own rob" are, but i can't blame them for making money off idiots like everyone else does.

> COULD you do this with Amazon boxes, enough of them? Probably, but that crap ain't
> free either, and it's also got their crap plastered all over it and has gone through
> all the hells entailed with UPS, FedEx, DHL and/or USPS transit. Would I buy it?
> Hell naw, but I can see the value because I'm not an butt-hole. That said, the jokes
> and memes are still hilarious.
You could buy your own boxes from any walmart or whatever for pennies. Hell, if you were so inclined, you can go to your local post office and just take some priority mail boxes home for free, or just dig through the trash if you're THAT desperate for a box. Cardboard boxes are everywhere, anywhere, there's tons more options that are going to be better than just paying a company 70-80 bucks for specially branded cardboard
theJaw
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* 18-Jan(#33)
Missile wrote:
> No, i don't think nintendo is particularly stupid. The people who look at Lucky Charms:
> Mario edition or a bunch of cardboard with a stupid app, and think "yeah, that's
> worth 12 bucks a box or 80 bucks to make my own rob" are, but i can't blame them
> for making money off idiots like everyone else does.
>

If you can't recognize the incredible leap in engineering from ROB to Labo, then there's no convincing you haha. No need to judge people as "idiots" for having an interest in something you don't just because you want to continue comparing it to something completely different.


> You could buy your own boxes from any walmart or whatever for pennies. Hell, if you
> were so inclined, you can go to your local post office and just take some priority
> mail boxes home for free, or just dig through the trash if you're THAT desperate
> for a box. Cardboard boxes are everywhere, anywhere, there's tons more options that
> are going to be better than just paying a company 70-80 bucks for specially branded
> cardboard

You pay $60 for video games, I'd say an extra $20 to critically challenge children with a bit of true-to-form engineering is a good deal personally.

You're a little too hung up on it just being cardboard. Suggesting any normal joe would be able to do what Labo is offering with "just cardboard" is laughable. I want to see you post a tutorial on how to build a Labo model using just cardboard, with no guidelines or predetermined instructions. yes
tonymack21
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18-Jan(#34)
theJaw wrote:

> You pay $60 for video games, I'd say an extra $20 to critically challenge children
> with a bit of true-to-form engineering is a good deal personally.
>

i was thinking about this a bit ago realizing my initial response was a little kneejerk thinking 80 bucks for a cardboard kit omg, not thinking the game comes with it.


theJaw
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18-Jan(#35)
tonymack21 wrote:
> theJaw wrote:
>
>> You pay $60 for video games, I'd say an extra $20 to critically challenge children
>> with a bit of true-to-form engineering is a good deal personally.
>>
>
> i was thinking about this a bit ago realizing my initial response was a little kneejerk
> thinking 80 bucks for a cardboard kit omg, not thinking the game comes with it.
>
>
>

For sure. Think about all the not-even high-end paper model kits that cost $30+ just for paper and instructions.

If the actual game gives you fun stuff to do, and the cardboard is as tough as it looks, this could be a really fun time. Not for those who immediately write off things that don't interest them as idiot-fodder, of course, but I'd imagine most folks would get a kick out of it.
Scott
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18-Jan(#36)
The average person could not and would not create this stuff on their own out of random cardboard. It would hardly be worth the hassle anyway, driving around to stores/dumpsters looking for the right size boxes that aren't too thin and/or beat up, then cutting them to the right specifications.

darkslime
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18-Jan(#37)
theJaw wrote:
> I wonder if anyone on eBay would buy a lot of just some nice cardboard for $80 if
> someone slapped "PERFECT FOR NINTENDO LABO!" in the header.

I just made it maybe my account will get viral

https://www.ebay.com/itm/222801552503
theJaw
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18-Jan(#38)
darkslime wrote:
> theJaw wrote:
>> I wonder if anyone on eBay would buy a lot of just some nice cardboard for $80
> if
>> someone slapped "PERFECT FOR NINTENDO LABO!" in the header.
>
> I just made it maybe my account will get viral
>

hahah nice. I dunno about viral but I will be watching your auction like a hawk to see if it gets bids. I have my own stash of garbage cardboard I could unleash on the masses haha
Scott
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18-Jan(#39)
darkslime wrote:
> theJaw wrote:
>> I wonder if anyone on eBay would buy a lot of just some nice cardboard for $80
> if
>> someone slapped "PERFECT FOR NINTENDO LABO!" in the header.
>
> I just made it maybe my account will get viral
>

You forgot to mention it's coming from a cesspool.

darkslime
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18-Jan(#40)
theJaw wrote:
> darkslime wrote:
>> theJaw wrote:
> |>> I wonder if anyone on eBay would buy a lot of just some nice cardboard for $80
>> if
> |>> someone slapped "PERFECT FOR NINTENDO LABO!" in the header.
>>
>> I just made it maybe my account will get viral
>>
>
> hahah nice. I dunno about viral but I will be watching your auction like a hawk to
> see if it gets bids. I have my own stash of garbage cardboard I could unleash on
> the masses haha
There's a chance, its the first thing that comes up when you search nintendo lobo on ebay.
tonymack21
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* 18-Jan(#41)
darkslime wrote:
> theJaw wrote:
>> I wonder if anyone on eBay would buy a lot of just some nice cardboard for $80
> if
>> someone slapped "PERFECT FOR NINTENDO LABO!" in the header.
>
> I just made it maybe my account will get viral
>


omg im dying!!!! RARE L@@K lmao!!!


theJaw wrote:
> darkslime wrote:
>> theJaw wrote:
> |>> I wonder if anyone on eBay would buy a lot of just some nice cardboard for $80
>> if
> |>> someone slapped "PERFECT FOR NINTENDO LABO!" in the header.
>>
>> I just made it maybe my account will get viral
>>
>
> hahah nice. I dunno about viral but I will be watching your auction like a hawk to
> see if it gets bids. I have my own stash of garbage cardboard I could unleash on
> the masses haha

my grandmothers house is full of boxes, it will be on. lol


darkslime
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18-Jan(#42)
Someone just bought a game off me it might be working
darkslime
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18-Jan(#43)
It already has 50 views. More than a lot of my real listings get...
Admiral
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18-Jan(#44)
HAHAHAHAH positive
Admiral
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18-Jan(#45)
So the defense of this product is:

It's biodegradable
It would be hard to make this on your own
Kids can learn something from it.

Still doesn't sound like something I really give a crap to have NINTENDO make. They should work on another fudging Metroid, Kirby, F Zero, etc. instead of wasting their time with cardboard toys.

There are PLENTY of companies that produce educational toys/crafts/etc. Are they exactly like Labo? Maybe, Maybe not. But there is enough of it. That's my problem. I'm all for Innovation to SOME degree, but cardboard toys that you build in order to use them with the Switch???? It's the Playstation Wonderbook all over again. This thing will be in stores, clearanced, and gone in 6 months.
theJaw
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* 18-Jan(#46)
haha yah but I don't think anyone is tricking themselves into thinking these will be ever-lasting game-changers in the world of video games. They're toys that children will enjoy. That's what Nintendo makes. We as adults are just lucky to still enjoy this stuff as much as we do haha
Scott
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18-Jan(#47)
Admiral wrote:
> Still doesn't sound like something I really give a crap to have NINTENDO make. They
> should work on another fudging Metroid, Kirby, F Zero, etc. instead of wasting their
> time with cardboard toys.

Well, they are working on Metroid, and there's a new Kirby coming out soon lol

Scots
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18-Jan(#48)
If you buy the kit, do you get the game software with it? Or do you have to buy that separate?
TerrHeel
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18-Jan(#49)
I have no idea if I'll end up getting this, but I think the idea is fantastic. My son will just about be three when this comes out. Nintendo said themselves, it's for kids and those who are still kids at heart. All the people in this thread crapping all over it, go play GTA. You don't get Nintendo, and you're not their target audience for this.
dustin11
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18-Jan(#50)
It would be interesting to see someone here actually attempt to build that robot costume thing or piano with a box from Amazon and see how it comes out. Gohead.
Boss
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18-Jan(#51)
dustin11 wrote:
> It would be interesting to see someone here actually attempt to build that robot
> costume thing or piano with a box from Amazon and see how it comes out. Gohead.

I'd be interesting in seeing the Live Stream.

image
darkslime
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18-Jan(#52)
Are you kidding? It are you seriously trying to rip sometime off with a cardboard box? Please tell me your kidding.

Got that message lol
klusion
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18-Jan(#53)
darkslime wrote:
> Are you kidding? It are you seriously trying to rip sometime off with a cardboard
> box? Please tell me your kidding.
>
> Got that message lol

I'm impressed you have over 1500 feedback and still have a perfect rating. yes

dustin11
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18-Jan(#54)
Boss wrote:
> dustin11 wrote:
>> It would be interesting to see someone here actually attempt to build that robot
>> costume thing or piano with a box from Amazon and see how it comes out. Gohead.
>
>
> I'd be interesting in seeing the Live Stream.
>
> {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/mMUeb16.gif 352 198{imgt}

It would be 80 hours of swearing with this as the final result:

image
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* 18-Jan(#55)
Scots wrote:
> If you buy the kit, do you get the game software with it? Or do you have to buy that
> separate?

Comes with the game software. Looks like each kit is a different game too, since one's a collection of a bunch of stuff and one's a full bodything.
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18-Jan(#56)
I just want to remind people that nobody got this pissy when Google essentially did the same thing, but provided way less intuition in the end product and no software.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&lo...
dustin11
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18-Jan(#57)
Nintendo: So here's something we made targeted towards kids...

Mid-30s Internet Dweller: WTF Nintendo?! I dont want this so why even bother making these?

Nintendo:...........
Scott
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19-Jan(#58)
dustin11 wrote:
> Nintendo: So here's something we made targeted towards kids...
>
> Mid-30s Internet Dweller: WTF Nintendo?! I dont want this so why even bother making
> these?
>
> Nintendo:...........

laughing out loud

bonham2
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19-Jan(#59)
Scots wrote:
> If you buy the kit, do you get the game software with it? Or do you have to buy that
> separate?

Yeah, they basically said you are paying for the software, and they're providing you the cardboard for free. They're even going to post the blueprints online so people can make their own when (inevitably) their cardboard gets destroyed.
tonymack21
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19-Jan(#60)
dustin11 wrote:
> Nintendo: So here's something we made targeted towards kids...
>
> Mid-30s Internet Dweller: WTF Nintendo?! I dont want this so why even bother making
> these?
>
> Nintendo:...........

This is true.. I admit my own reaction was knee jerk as my first thought was this somehow detracted from getting us good virtual console and online.


NotCD
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19-Jan(#61)
You'll never convince me a kid will enjoy this for anything past 20 minutes tops after initial builds:



This is going to end up with the aforementioned Mid-30s internet Dweller dressed as a damn cardboard robot building inefficient remote control cars while doging it's not very good.
theJaw
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19-Jan(#62)
My nephew is psyched for Labo and plays with LEGO every day of his tiny life. I think he'll be into it for far more than 20 minutes.
Scott
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19-Jan(#63)
My kids can play with a couple sticks for more than 20 minutes. What a silly statement.

NotCD
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19-Jan(#64)
I'd argue sticks and legos bring more than cardboard cutouts with singular proprietary use.
Admiral
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19-Jan(#65)
My problem is that these are geared towards SOME kids (many kids don't want this stuff) and SOME parents (many parents won't pay $80 for cardboard toys).

So where does that leave the rest of the Nintendo fans? They are innovating with something that MANY MANY people don't care about.

I know they can still do great things for everyone else, but they really made it seem like it was going to be something for everyone to enjoy (Kids and adults alike!!!)...
dustin11
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19-Jan(#66)
Nintendo said prior to the show that this reveal was going to only be about interactive peripherals so I'm a little confused when I see people online mad that the announcement wasn't about VC and/or Smash Bros. and MP4 gameplay trailers.
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19-Jan(#67)
Admiral wrote:
> My problem is that these are geared towards SOME kids (many kids don't want this
> stuff) and SOME parents (many parents won't pay $80 for cardboard toys).
>
> So where does that leave the rest of the Nintendo fans? They are innovating with
> something that MANY MANY people don't care about.


And when they announced Bayonetta 3 its geared towards the older audience and not toward kids but I didn't see any gripping about that. They are trying to make something for everyone, mature games for the "mature" audience and interactive toys for the younger audience. They're trying to offer a diverse lineup that covers all ages and interests. I don't see a problem with that.
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19-Jan(#68)
Admiral wrote:
> My problem is that these are geared towards SOME kids (many kids don't want this
> stuff) and SOME parents (many parents won't pay $80 for cardboard toys).
>
> So where does that leave the rest of the Nintendo fans? They are innovating with
> something that MANY MANY people don't care about.

Are you so entitled that everything has to be interesting to you to be worthy of being made and produced?

Your expectations for Nintendo as a company are depressingly simple-minded. They're taking a risk on making an augmentation that goes beyond simple press a button and something happens on screen action and for some ineffable reason, people are taking offense and calling them out, which I don't understand. I don't understand WHY anyone looking at this would be like "That's dumb, Nintendo's dumb." Since when has Nintendo ever, EVER just stuck to bread and butter since they perfected it and ran at the top of their game around the SNES?

I feel like people are seeing the word "cardboard" and scoffing, jumping on the haters bandwagon because they're bored. At the end of the day, as they have demonstrated by saying when they demo this stuff publicly you ain't coming in unless you've actually got a kid, they don't give a fudge about you in regards to this product. So just let it go.
theJaw
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* 19-Jan(#69)
Admiral wrote:
> My problem is that these are geared towards SOME kids (many kids don't want this
> stuff) and SOME parents (many parents won't pay $80 for cardboard toys).
>
> So where does that leave the rest of the Nintendo fans? They are innovating with
> something that MANY MANY people don't care about.
>
> I know they can still do great things for everyone else, but they really made it
> seem like it was going to be something for everyone to enjoy (Kids and adults alike!!!)...

But this argument can be made about literally any toy. There will be some who want it, some who don't.

The Nintendo fans who don't want it... don't buy it.
Admiral
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19-Jan(#70)
theJaw wrote:
> Admiral wrote:
>> My problem is that these are geared towards SOME kids (many kids don't want this
>> stuff) and SOME parents (many parents won't pay $80 for cardboard toys).
>>
>> So where does that leave the rest of the Nintendo fans? They are innovating with
>> something that MANY MANY people don't care about.
>>
>> I know they can still do great things for everyone else, but they really made
> it
>> seem like it was going to be something for everyone to enjoy (Kids and adults
> alike!!!)...
>
> But this argument can be made about literally any toy. There will be some who want
> it, some who don't.
>
> The Nintendo fans who don't want it... don't buy it.

It's going to be a flop from Nintendo again then. Do we really want that for this company?
Admiral
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19-Jan(#71)
DiamondDave wrote:
> Admiral wrote:
>> My problem is that these are geared towards SOME kids (many kids don't want this
>> stuff) and SOME parents (many parents won't pay $80 for cardboard toys).
>>
>> So where does that leave the rest of the Nintendo fans? They are innovating with
>> something that MANY MANY people don't care about.
>
> Are you so entitled that everything has to be interesting to you to be worthy of
> being made and produced?
>
> Your expectations for Nintendo as a company are depressingly simple-minded. They're
> taking a risk on making an augmentation that goes beyond simple press a button and
> something happens on screen action and for some ineffable reason, people are taking
> offense and calling them out, which I don't understand. I don't understand WHY anyone
> looking at this would be like "That's dumb, Nintendo's dumb." Since when has Nintendo
> ever, EVER just stuck to bread and butter since they perfected it and ran at the
> top of their game around the SNES?
>
> I feel like people are seeing the word "cardboard" and scoffing, jumping on the haters
> bandwagon because they're bored. At the end of the day, as they have demonstrated
> by saying when they demo this stuff publicly you ain't coming in unless you've actually
> got a kid, they don't give a fudge about you in regards to this product. So just
> let it go.

It's a discussion. You're making your arguments, I'm making mine. Why do I have to let it go? Your lack of appreciation for someone else's views are depressingly simple-minded. Are you so entitled that people who aren't excited about this cardboard crap can't express THEIR views? Is that how you discuss things?

"I love it, I'll say I love it. Who wants to talk about it? Oh, you don't love it? FUDGE YOU SHUT UP"

Get over yourself.
DiamondDave
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* 19-Jan(#72)
You don't fudging know if it's going to be a flop. Nobody knows. The market seems to disagree with you, frankly, seeing as Nintendo added $1.2B to their stock eval after its announcement. I explicitly said I didn't love it, but I saw value in it. Most of your replies have the word "lol" in it, so I'm not sure what you're adding to the discussion other than injecting yourself in a product not designed for you, which is adorable.

I'll pull a JAWWW and say "no u". I'm not seeing how you're adding to the discussion, other than you wanting to be negative, and being visibly ruffled that you're not the target demographic for a Nintendo product. Again, adorable.
Admiral
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19-Jan(#73)
dustin11 wrote:
> Admiral wrote:
>> My problem is that these are geared towards SOME kids (many kids don't want this
>> stuff) and SOME parents (many parents won't pay $80 for cardboard toys).
>>
>> So where does that leave the rest of the Nintendo fans? They are innovating with
>> something that MANY MANY people don't care about.
>
>
> And when they announced Bayonetta 3 its geared towards the older audience and not
> toward kids but I didn't see any gripping about that. They are trying to make something
> for everyone, mature games for the "mature" audience and interactive toys for the
> younger audience. They're trying to offer a diverse lineup that covers all ages and
> interests. I don't see a problem with that.

Nintendo didn't create Bayonetta 3, for one.

For two...making one single game isn't the same as making a product line that requires resources outside of the normal production of hardware and games.

They can make whatever they want as long as they continue to create for everyone. Right now, as many people agree, the Switch is good for TWO games (Mario, Zelda). Many disagree, and that's fine too. I just don't want to see Nintendo turn the switch into a gimmicky, childish, shovelware system like they did the Wii and Wii U.

Being critical and weary of Nintendo, while severely unpopular with the Nintendo-boner people, is 100% justified.
Admiral
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19-Jan(#74)
DiamondDave wrote:
> You don't fudging know if it's going to be a flop. Nobody knows. The market
> seems to disagree with you, frankly, seeing as Nintendo added $1.2B to their stock
> eval after its announcement. I explicitly said I didn't love it, but I saw value
> in it. Most of your replies have the word "lol" in it, so I'm not sure what you're
> adding to the discussion other than injecting yourself in a product not designed
> for you, which is adorable.
>
> I'll pull a JAWWW and say "no u".

Oh, you don't like what I have to say? THEN MY WORDS AREN'T FOR YOU! I see how your line of thinking works now....
DiamondDave
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19-Jan(#75)
Whatever, man, lol. dog and whine about it all you want, I'm done. This is sad.
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Admiral
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19-Jan(#77)
If you see my talking points as doging and whining, then you're not doing a good job of chatting about it either.

Your tone and method of personally attacking someone is sad.

I'm done too.
DiamondDave
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* 19-Jan(#78)
Hit me up when you're 8 again, we'll continue the conversation when your opinion is relevant
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19-Jan(#79)
Admiral wrote:
> They can make whatever they want as long as they continue to create for everyone.
> Right now, as many people agree, the Switch is good for TWO games (Mario, Zelda).
> Many disagree, and that's fine too.

Put me in the "strongly disagree" group smile

> I just don't want to see Nintendo turn the switch
> into a gimmicky, childish, shovelware system like they did the Wii and Wii U.

I mean, it's one gimmick. Can we at least wait for the 2nd before we start worrying about that? They have plenty of good games on the way, I don't think there's cause for concern at this point.

> Being critical and weary of Nintendo, while severely unpopular with the Nintendo-boner
> people, is 100% justified.

It may be different in other parts of the internet, but I think nearly all of the Nintendo fans on this site are still willing to criticize them when necessary, and point out their shortcomings. Just my perspective though. My point is I don't see this as just Nintendo fanboys defending them no matter what.

dustin11
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19-Jan(#80)
Nintendo isn't aiming at these toward adults, I don't really see how hard that is to figure out. And even if these flop how much is that going to hurt Nitnendo? Not at all is the answer. The Switch is the best selling console selling at a healthy profit and the 3DS is selling even better and with a wider profit margin. Nintendo is in the position to put something fun like this and not have to worry about their company hinging on its success.

And I know that Nintendo didn't "make" Bayo3, but they are funding the project.......so.

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