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Topic   OP Updated (2/9/2021) 2021 GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League

Heavyd814life
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* 4-Jan(#1)
The 2021 GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League

1. BloodpuppetX Current Total: 328


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 2: Lost Legends and the Secret Fairy - 80
2. Bravely Default II
3. Cyber Shadow - 81
4. Disgaea 6: Defiance of Destiny
5. Hitman 3 - 87
6. Horizon Forbidden West
7. Monster Hunter Rise
8. Rune Factory 5
9. Shin Megami Tensei V
10. Ys IX: Monstrum Nox - 80

Alternates:
1. Balan Wonderworld
2. King's Bounty II


2. Boss Current Total: 315


Top 10:
1. Axiom Verge 2
2. Back 4 Blood
3. Bravely Default II
4. Ghosts 'n Goblins Resurrection - 74
5. Halo Infinite
6. Hitman 3 - 87
7. Little Nightmares II - 83
8. Monster Hunter Rise
9. Oddworld: Soulstorm
10. The Medium - 71

Alternates:
1. Cotton Reboot
2. King Arthur: Knight's Tale


3. MSU_Dawg87 Current Total: 247


Top 10:
1. Bravely Default II
2. Gran Turismo 7
3. Horizon Forbidden West
4. Lego Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga
5. Little Nightmares II - 83
6. Persona 5 Strikers - 84
7. Psychonauts 2
8. Resident Evil Village
9. The King of Fighters XV
10. Ys IX: Monstrum Nox - 80

Alternates:
1. Monster Hunter Rise
2. Returnal


4. Ryan Current Total: 171


Top 10:
1. Axiom Verge 2
2. Far Cry 6
3. Halo Infinite
4. Hitman 3 - 87
5. Monster Hunter Rise
6. Persona 5 Strikers - 84
7. Psychonauts 2
8. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
9. Resident Evil Village
10. Shin Megami Tensei V

Alternates:
1. Forza Horizon 2021
2. New Pokemon Snap


5. Apocram2222 Current Total: 165


Top 10:
1. Back 4 Blood
2. Baldur's Gate III
3. Cyber Shadow - 81
4. Ghostwire: Tokyo
5. Gotham Knights
6. Horizon Forbidden West
7. Monster Hunter Rise
8. Persona 5 Strikers - 84
9. Resident Evil Village
10. Returnal

Alternates:
1. Guilty Gear Strive
2. Psychonauts 2


6. Kommie Current Total: 165


Top 10:
1. Cyber Shadow - 81
2. Elden Ring
3. God of War: Ragnarok
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Horizon Forbidden West
6. Humankind
7. Monster Hunter Rise
8. Persona 5 Strikers - 84
9. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
10. Shin Megami Tensei V

Alternates:
1. Bravely Default II
2. Oddworld: Soulstorm


7. JD Current Total: 164


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 2: Lost Legends and the Secret Fairy - 80
2. Bravely Default II
3. Crimson Desert
4. Diablo IV
5. Gotham Knights
6. Hood: Outlaws & Legends
7. Monster Hunter Rise
8. NFL 2K 2021
9. Persona 5 Strikers - 84
10. Shin Megami Tensei

Alternates:
1. Resident Evil Village
2. Scarlet Nexus


8. Thatfootballguy Current Total: 164


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate III
2. Biomutant
3. Bravely Default II
4. Disgaea 6: Defiance of Destiny
5. Halo Infinite
6. Horizon Forbidden West
7. Persona 5 Strikers - 84
8. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
9. Shin Megami Tensei V
10. Ys IX: Monstrum Nox - 80

Alternates:
1. Cris Tales
2. Eastward


9. Frank Current Total: 87


Top 10:
1. Disgaea 6: Defiance of Destiny
2. God of War: Ragnarok
3. Gotham Knights
4. Halo Infinite
5. Hitman 3 - 87
6. Horizon Forbidden West
7. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
8. Resident Evil Village
9. Shin Megami Tensei V
10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2

Alternates:
1. Bravely Default II
2. Psychonauts 2


10. GamersLyf Current Total: 87


Top 10:
1. Deathloop
2. Dragon Age 4
3. Dying Light 2
4. Ghostwire: Tokyo
5. Hitman 3 - 87
6. Horizon Forbidden West
7. Hollow Knight: Silksong
8. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
9. Resident Evil Village
10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2

Alternates:
1. Evil Genius 2: World Domination
2. New Pokemon Snap


11. Best1989 Current Total: 84


Top 10:
1. Axiom Verge 2
2. Bravely Default II
3. Deathloop
4. God of War: Ragnarok
5. Gran Turismo 7
6. Horizon Forbidden West
7. Monster Hunter Rise
8. Persona 5 Strikers - 84
9. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
10. Shin Megami Tensei V

Alternates:
1. Kena: Bridge of Spirits
2. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time Remake


12. Bleed_DukeBlue Current Total: 84


Top 10:
1. Deathloop
2. Gotham Knights
3. God of War: Ragnarok
4. Halo Infinite
5. Horizon Forbidden West
6. Overwatch 2
7. Persona 5 Strikers - 84
8. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
9. Resident Evil Village
10. Returnal

Alternates:
1. Far Cry 6
2. Hitman 3 - 87


13. Jim269 Current Total: 84


Top 10:
1. Back 4 Blood
2. Ghostwire: Tokyo
3. God of War: Ragnarok
4. Horizon Forbidden West
5. Kena: Bridge of Spirits
6. Persona 5 Strikers - 84
7. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
8. Resident Evil Village
9. Shin Megami Tensei V
10. Vampire: The Masquerade -- Bloodlines 2

Alternates:
1. Balan Wonderworld
2. Hitman 3 - 87


14. Tonymack21 Current Total: 84


Top 10:
1. Deathloop
2. Elden Ring
3. Halo Infinite
4. Horizon Forbidden West
5. Monster Hunter Rise
6. Oddworld: Soulstorm
7. Persona 5 Strikers - 84
8. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
9. Resident Evil Village
10. Shin Megami Tensei V

Alternates:
1. Bravely Default II
2. No More Heroes III


15. SwiftJAB Current Total: 83


Top 10:
1. Bravely Default II
2. Deathloop
3. God of War: Ragnarok
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Horizon Forbidden West
6. Little Nightmares II - 83
7. Monster Hunter Rise
8. Outriders
9. Psychonauts 2
10. Resident Evil Village

Alternates:
1. Gran Turismo 7
2. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart


16. TerrHeel Current Total: 81


Top 10:
1. Axiom Verge 2
2. Cyber Shadow - 81
3. God of War: Ragnarok
4. Gran Turismo 7
5. Halo Infinite
6. Hollow Knight: Silksong
7. Horizon Forbidden West
8. Monster Hunter Rise
9. Psychonauts 2
10. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart

Alternates:
1. Disgaea 6: Defiance of Destiny
2. Season


17. TalonJedi87 Current Total: 71


Top 10:
1. Back 4 Blood
2. Black Myth: Wu Kong
3. Gotham Knights
4. Halo Infinite
5. Horizon Forbidden West
6. Psychonauts 2
7. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
8. Resident Evil Village
9. The Medium - 71
10. Vampire: The Masquerade -- Bloodlines 2

Alternates:
1. Babylon's Fall
2. God of War: Ragnarok


18. Archer Current Total: 0


Top 10:
1. 12 Minutes
2. Bravely Default II
3. Garden Story
4. Halo Infinite
5. Horizon Forbidden West
6. Humankind
7. Monster Hunter Rise
8. Ratchet & Clank; Rift Apart
9. Shin Megami Tensei V
10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2

Alternates:
1. Deathloop
2. Disgaea 6: Defiance of Destiny


19. Bogo Current Total: 0


Top 10:
1. Axiom Verge 2
2. Cris Tales
3. Elden Ring
4. God of War: Ragnarok
5. Halo Infinite
6. Hollow Knight: Silksong
7. Horizon Forbiden West
8. New Pokemon Snap
9. Shin Megami Tensei V
10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2

Alternates:
1. Bravely Default II
2. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart


20. Cevil Current Total: 0


Top 10:
1. Axiom Verge 2
2. Balan Wonderworld
3. Bayonetta 3
4. Bravely Default II
5. Halo Infinite
6. Hollow Knight: Silksong
7. Lego Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga
8. Monster Hunter Rise
9. New Pokemon Snap
10. Shin Megami Tensei V

Alternates:
1. Atelier Ryza 2: Lost Legends and the Secret Fairy - 80
2. Ys IX: Monstrum Nox - 80


21 Gypsy Current Total: 0


Top 10:
1. Elden Ring
2. Guilty Gear Strive
3. Horizon Forbidden West
4. Monster Hunter Rise
5. Overwatch 2
6. Psychonauts 2
7. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
8. Resident Evil Village
9. Shin Megami Tensei V
10. Vampire: The Masquerade -- Bloodlines 2

Alternates:
1. Deathloop
2. Kena: Bridge of Spirits


22. Heavyd814life Current Total: 0


Top 10:
1. Bravely Default II
2. Guilty Gear Strive
3. Horizon Forbidden West
4. Monster Hunter Rise
5. Oddworld: Soulstorm
6. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
7. Resident Evil Village
8. Returnal
9. Shin Megami Tensei V
10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2

Alternates:
1. Hitman 3 - 87
2. Ys IX: Monstrum Nox - 80


23. Mattyg00013 Current Total: 0


Top 10:
1. 12 Minutes
2. Elden Ring
3. God of War: Ragnarok
4. Halo Infinite
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Horizon Forbidden West
7. Kena: Bridge of Spirits
8. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
9. Resident Evil Village
10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2

Alternates:
1. Gotham Knights
2. Hitman 3 - 87


24. PizzaTheHutt Current Total: 0


Top 10:
1. Back 4 Blood
2. Bravely Default II
3. Dying Light 2
4. Halo Infinite
5. It Takes Two
6. Metroid Prime 4
7. Monster Hunter Rise
8. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
9. Resident Evil Village
10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2

Alternates:
1. Cyber Shadow - 81
2. Little Nightmares II - 83


25. Roko Current Total: 0


Top 10:
1. Age of Empires IV
2. Backbone
3. God of War: Ragnarok
4. Gran Turismo 7
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Horizon Forbidden West
7. Monster Hunter Rise
8. Oddworld: Soulstorm
9. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy XVI
2. Psychonauts 2


26. Scott Current Total: 0


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate III
2. Bayonetta 3
3. Elden Ring
4. God of War: Ragnarok
5. Gotham Knights
6. Halo Infinite
7. Horizon Forbidden West
8. Monster Hunter Rise
9. Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Remake
10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2

Alternates:
1. Axiom Verge 2
2. Hollow Knight: Silksong



Upcoming Releases


January:
Hitman 3 - January 20
Atelier Ryza 2: Lost Legends and the Secret Fairy - January 26
Cyber Shadow - January 26
The Medium - January 28

February:
Ys IX: Monstrum Nox - February 2
Little Nightmares II - February 11
Persona 5 Strikers - February 23
Ghosts 'n Goblins Resurrection - February 25
Bravely Default II - February 26

March:
Returnal - March 19
Balan Wonderworld - March 26
It Takes Two - March 26
Monster Hunter Rise - March 26

April:
Outriders - April 1
Guilty Gear Strive - April 9
Humankind - April 22

May:
Hood: Outlaws and Legends - May 7
Resident Evil Village - May 7
Deathloop - May 21
Biomutant - May 25

June:
Back 4 Blood - June 22



League Overview


Happy New Year, everyone! Welcome to Year 4 of the GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League. This is basically fantasy football with games. Each person picks 10 games and those 10 games make up your "team" for the year. The Metacritic scores for your 10 games are tallied up at the end of the year to determine your total. Highest overall score wins. You also get 2 alternate picks (these should be safe choices) just in case one of your picks gets delayed into 2022. So if you shoot for the moon with a game like The Elder Scrolls VI and it gets pushed into 2022, one of your alternates takes its place and you don't end up with 0 points for that game. The goal is to pick games that you think have a very good chance of releasing in 2021.

The Rules:
1. No DLC or Expansions
2. No Ports or Remasters (full remakes are allowed)
3. Alternate picks can only replace games delayed into 2022. They cannot be used to replace games in your top 10 that review poorly.

The Prize:
1st Place: A $50 Amazon Gift Card

The Participants:
1. Heavyd814life
2. Roko
3. Cevil
4. TalonJedi
5. SwiftJAB
6. Gypsy
7. PizzaTheHutt
8. JD
9. Bogo
10. Bleed_DukeBlue
11. Archer
12. Boss
13. Thatfootballguy
14. Scott
15. Jim269
16. Frank
17. GamersLyf
18. TerrHeel
19. Tonymack21
20. Kommie
21. MSU_Dawg87
22. Best1989
23. BloodPuppetX
24. Mattyg00013
25. Ryan
26. Apocram2222

Submit Your Picks Here: https://GameTZ.checkbox.com/5BD26BFD-B114-4603-A9C...
Deadline: January 16, 2021 at 11:59pm




Heavyd814life
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4-Jan(#2)
Let's go, guys!

@mattyg00013 @Roko @Ryan @tonymack21 @thatfootballguy @JD @TerrHeel @Best1989 @Bleed_DukeBlue @bogo @PizzaTheHutt @Archer @Gypsy @Boss @SwiftJAB @BloodPuppetX @ChrisKW1 @TalonJedi87 @Scott @GamersLyf @Frank

Roko
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader
4-Jan(#3)
Says survey hasn't been activated.
Heavyd814life
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4-Jan(#4)
Roko wrote:
> Says survey hasn't been activated.

Should be active now.

Roko
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader
4-Jan(#5)
Word. Got mine in.
Kommie
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4-Jan(#6)
Where do you guys go to lookup what's coming out?

Heavyd814life
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4-Jan(#7)
Kommie wrote:
> Where do you guys go to lookup what's coming out?
>
>

I use this Wiki page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_video_games

TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Double Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 4-Jan(#8)
Done! I went with the usual titles I'm personally looking forward to that I hope releases this year on my hit list I hope will do more than well. Not really a competitive guy, but I enjoy participating. Thanks!
Cevil
GameTZ Subscriber Silver Good Trader
4-Jan(#9)
Done!

Leaning on the Switch to carry me cuz I don't know much about the Xbox/Playstation scene. eep!
Kommie
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4-Jan(#10)
Bayonetta 3 should be a lock for everyone

Kommie
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4-Jan(#11)
PC games being ported from PC to console are a no go, right? For example Disco Elysium is being ported this year and its only been released on PC so far.

SwiftJAB
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4-Jan(#12)
Elden Ring FTW
Roko
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader
* 4-Jan(#13)
Kommie wrote:
> PC games being ported from PC to console are a no go, right? For example Disco Elysium
> is being ported this year and its only been released on PC so far.
>
>
Correct. Ports and remasters are a no-go. Remakes on the level of Final Fantasy VII or OddWorld or something are fine since that's effectively an entirely different game, though.
Gypsy
GameTZ Subscriber Quadruple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
4-Jan(#14)
Done. I have some ambitious picks.
Gypsy
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4-Jan(#15)
Kommie wrote:
> Bayonetta 3 should be a lock for everyone
>
>

Forgot about this ngl. Definitely should have had it in over SMT V. I'm personally super hyped for that game though.
Kommie
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4-Jan(#16)
Gypsy wrote:
> Kommie wrote:
>> Bayonetta 3 should be a lock for everyone
>>
>>
>
> Forgot about this ngl. Definitely should have had it in over SMT V. I'm personally
> super hyped for that game though.

I was joking. It was announced in 2017 and nothing has been said since.

Bleed_DukeBlue
GameTZ Gold Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader
4-Jan(#17)
Wanna talk about hope? I put Elden Ring on my list last year lol.

Kommie wrote:
> Gypsy wrote:
>> Kommie wrote:
> |>> Bayonetta 3 should be a lock for everyone
> |>>
> |>>
>>
>> Forgot about this ngl. Definitely should have had it in over SMT V. I'm personally
>> super hyped for that game though.
>
> I was joking. It was announced in 2017 and nothing has been said since.
>
>
Kommie
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4-Jan(#18)
It's going on my list. I don't care. It'll give me hope.


Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:
> Wanna talk about hope? I put Elden Ring on my list last year lol.
>
> Kommie wrote:
>> Gypsy wrote:
> |>> Kommie wrote:
>> |>> Bayonetta 3 should be a lock for everyone
>> |>>
>> |>>
> |>>
> |>> Forgot about this ngl. Definitely should have had it in over SMT V. I'm personally
> |>> super hyped for that game though.
>>
>> I was joking. It was announced in 2017 and nothing has been said since.
>>
>>


Bleed_DukeBlue
GameTZ Gold Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader
4-Jan(#19)
Nice. I'm considering doing it again. It's gotta happen sometime right? I've had it preordered for like 3 years :)

Kommie wrote:
> It's going on my list. I don't care. It'll give me hope.
>
>
> Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:
>> Wanna talk about hope? I put Elden Ring on my list last year lol.
>>
>> Kommie wrote:
> |>> Gypsy wrote:
>> |>> Kommie wrote:
> |>> |>> Bayonetta 3 should be a lock for everyone
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>> Forgot about this ngl. Definitely should have had it in over SMT V. I'm personally
>> |>> super hyped for that game though.
> |>>
> |>> I was joking. It was announced in 2017 and nothing has been said since.
> |>>
> |>>
>
>
>
Kommie
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4-Jan(#20)
From Software's development cycle isn't usually this long. Covid has definitely had an impact.

Gypsy
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4-Jan(#21)
Kommie wrote:
> From Software's development cycle isn't usually this long. Covid has definitely had
> an impact.
>
>

Yeah COVID has messed with a lot of games.
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Double Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
4-Jan(#22)
I was gonna put Bayonetta 3, Metroid Prime 4 and Elden Ring but those games are practically myths at this point.
Kommie
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4-Jan(#23)
There's gonna be a lot of pissed off people who buy Elden Ring cause GRRM's name is on it to then realize it's hard and there is no easy mode.

TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Double Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 4-Jan(#24)
I mean the show and books kinda never had an easy mode, IE The Red Wedding, so why should the Thronesverse expect a From Soft game to have one? If anything this may be the hardest most brutal and demoralizing game of all time.
Gypsy
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4-Jan(#25)
TalonJedi87 wrote:
> I mean the show and books kinda never had an easy mode, IE The Red Wedding, so why
> should the Thronesverse expect a From Soft game to have one? If anything this may
> be the hardest most brutal and demoralizing game of all time.

People will be mad. People were mad about Sekiro. I think Kommie is right in that it could draw more casual interest which could lead to more complaining.
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Double Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 4-Jan(#26)
Oh I'm sure it will. All those snowflakes out there are gonna have that whine with their cheese indeed. Even if Miyazaki-san and George Martin get on a mic at E3 or a big press conference and say "This game is going to be hard" quite plainly people will still hear what they wanna hear and complain.
Kommie
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4-Jan(#27)
Used copies will appear fast though.

JD
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4-Jan(#28)
Entered but pmed about certain title
Heavyd814life
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4-Jan(#29)
Hey guys so JD wants to include Phantasy Star Online 2: New Genesis as one of his picks. I can't make out what this game is. It seems like an expansion on the surface, but it also seems like a sequel because it has a new gameplay engine, overhauled visuals, new game mechanics, new zones, and basically everything else you'd expect from a real sequel.

I think it's fine but wanted to see what everyone else thinks. So...

positive for yea
negative for nay

Heavyd814life
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4-Jan(#30)
8 entries so far. Keep 'em coming, guys!

PizzaTheHutt
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4-Jan(#31)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> Hey guys so JD wants to include Phantasy Star Online 2: New Genesis as one of his
> picks. I can't make out what this game is. It seems like an expansion on the surface,
> but it also seems like a sequel because it has a new gameplay engine, overhauled
> visuals, new game mechanics, new zones, and basically everything else you'd expect
> from a real sequel.
>
> I think it's fine but wanted to see what everyone else thinks. So...
>
> positive for yea
> negative for nay


I'm not against letting it count, but will there even be enough reviews to bother? Looking at vanilla Phantasy Star Online 2 for PC and Xbox One on Metacritic, neither one got the minimum of 4 reviews required to be given an average score.
JD
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4-Jan(#32)
PizzaTheHutt wrote:
> Heavyd814life wrote:
>> Hey guys so JD wants to include Phantasy Star Online 2: New Genesis as one of
> his
>> picks. I can't make out what this game is. It seems like an expansion on the surface,
>> but it also seems like a sequel because it has a new gameplay engine, overhauled
>> visuals, new game mechanics, new zones, and basically everything else you'd expect
>> from a real sequel.
>>
>> I think it's fine but wanted to see what everyone else thinks. So...
>>
>> positive for yea
>> negative for nay
>
>
> I'm not against letting it count, but will there even be enough reviews to bother?
> Looking at vanilla Phantasy Star Online 2 for PC and Xbox One on Metacritic, neither
> one got the minimum of 4 reviews required to be given an average score.
>

Steam got 9/10 tho but i'll probably just have it changed to replacement pick which i already pmed while asking about PSO2
Archer
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4-Jan(#33)
I have to whittle my list down. I currently have 18 games I'm pondering over.
Boss
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5-Jan(#34)
Time to come in Last place again.
PizzaTheHutt
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5-Jan(#35)
I tried playing it safe this time. I expect almost everything on my list to be fairly common across everyone else's too, except I did pick a couple games that aren't actually confirmed for release in 2021 yet, but I expect they will. We'll see how that goes.
bogo
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5-Jan(#36)
just got mine in. couple that i'm not terribly sure about how they'll score, but i'm personally excited for them...so it's worth a shot!
Bleed_DukeBlue
GameTZ Gold Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader
* 5-Jan(#37)
Just submitted mine too. I took some chances. We'll see what happens!
Archer
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5-Jan(#38)
I'm having a really hard time making a list this year. I might just have to play some eny, meeny, miny, moe mo crap soon.
Archer
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5-Jan(#39)
Submitted my list. Here is to hoping my eny, meeny, miny, moe game is on point.
bogo
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5-Jan(#40)
yeah I initially had a list of about 20. Had to take out some games that I really didn't want to :/
Heavyd814life
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5-Jan(#41)
Some really nice lists so far, guys! There are two or three games that I'm kicking myself for forgetting about and a couple I hadn't even heard of but doing research now they seem like really solid picks. I had a harder time than usual this year putting my list together because there are so few games with concrete release dates and so many of the ones without release dates could hit 90 easily if they do come out.

Gypsy
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5-Jan(#42)
There were some games I wanted to pick but then looked at the review history of the franchises and they were surprisingly low.
Scott
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* 5-Jan(#43)
Submitted. I thought about playing it safe this year and only listing games I thought would definitely release. But...that just wasn't as fun, so I submitted a list with a ton of risks again, like last year lol
Archer
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5-Jan(#44)
Scott wrote:
> Submitted. I thought about playing it safe this year and only listing games I thought
> would definitely release this year. But...that just wasn't as fun, so I submitted
> a list with a ton of risks again, like last year lol

You don't make the shots you don't take.
Frank
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5-Jan(#45)
First time participating in one of these leagues. My picks are in. Excited to see how this plays out grin

Boss
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6-Jan(#46)
Scott wrote:
> Submitted. I thought about playing it safe this year and only listing games I thought
> would definitely release. But...that just wasn't as fun, so I submitted a list with
> a ton of risks again, like last year lol


Less risks more picks was my mindset this year. Probably put me in the middle of the pack though.
Archer
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6-Jan(#47)
Oh crap. I just remembered two games I forgot about. Ugh. One of which I think will score highly. SERENITY NOW!
tonymack21
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7-Jan(#48)
i'll get a list worked up in the next few days, its late right now and i need to look up whats even supposed to come out this year, its been so weird and so much potential for delay and stuff it will be interesting this year.

TerrHeel
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7-Jan(#49)
Just submitted my list. This is my year!
Ryan
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8-Jan(#50)
I'll join!
Kommie
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8-Jan(#51)
Games so far only released in Japan, but are to be localized soon, are these allowed? Technically reviews should exist for these games already.....

Heavyd814life
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8-Jan(#52)
Kommie wrote:
> Games so far only released in Japan, but are to be localized soon, are these allowed?
> Technically reviews should exist for these games already.....
>
>

These are fine.

Gypsy
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8-Jan(#53)
Japanese reviews are totally different. yes
JD
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8-Jan(#54)
Yeah madden was probably scored 1 or 0 there
Kommie
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8-Jan(#55)
There's actually some evidence of sorts that Elden Ring gets released this year.

Taken from Reddit:

u/Charred-Glass
46 minutes ago

a reputable italian journalist, francesco fossetti, stated that elden ring finished development and that its in the polishing phase, and that if it wasnt for covid it wouldve been done and out by now. bandai namco then warned him or something along those lines not to say anything else and sites this subreddit as example of leaking info which means he was right and struck down and we got some rat hunting to do

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/ktbjga...

TalonJedi87
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* 8-Jan(#56)
I just hope if Elden Ring does release this year it is optimized more so for PS5/XSX than last gen hardware. We do not need another Cyberbug fiasco. Although can From Soft games ever optimize their games? Even Sekiro running on a PS5/XSX I noticed had frame dips that struggled to stay at 60fps from a Digital Foundry video with the default hardware and no developer patch.
Archer
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8-Jan(#57)
I doubt it comes out this year personally. I've always figured it would be a 2022 game based off the info they provided in 2019. Saying it was in the early stages of development still.
Kommie
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8-Jan(#58)
Their games may not run at amazing FPS, but they don't release unfinished games with missing content and glitches galore. Aside from actual bug enemies, don't expect bugs on level with Cyberpunk 2077. I have no idea why people think Elden Ring will be a fiasco release like Cyberpunk.

TalonJedi87
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* 8-Jan(#59)
I just meant in regards to being optimized in FPS not bugs. From Soft has a good QC team unlike CDPR. They just need a sleeker graphics engine or programmer to optimize and tweak the performance on their games a bit better to run a little smoother and not rely on users with a PC users to make the game run better for them. Looking at you Bloodborne. But yeah I still love you Bloodborne. Don't serve me the divorce papers.
tonymack21
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9-Jan(#60)
submitted my list, decided to try for a couple of longshots but put alternates i thought would be solid backups in case they dont make it

Kommie
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9-Jan(#61)
my list is in

JD
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9-Jan(#62)
Forgot Suicide Squad game i doubt it'll release this year
TalonJedi87
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9-Jan(#63)
I think Suicide Squad is a 2022 release.
Heavyd814life
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9-Jan(#64)
JD wrote:
> Forgot Suicide Squad game i doubt it'll release this year

Yeah, Rocksteady has already said it's a 2022 game. And it looks like a GaaS game to me and those almost never review well. But it is Rocksteady and they have the pedigree so if anyone can pull it off, they can. It'll be interesting to see how many people have this game on their lists next year.

JD
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* 9-Jan(#65)
Yeah can't forget Gotham knights im hoping that one will be good, i'd kill for standalone robin game

Just looked up news on it they added coop to it
Frank
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9-Jan(#66)
I forgot about a few games. Oh well, it'll be fun to see how my list differs from others!

TalonJedi87
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9-Jan(#67)
Gotham Knights I hope makes coop games a return to form instead of this whole GAAS bullcrap.
Kommie
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9-Jan(#68)
Nah, it'll be more GAAS garbage even though that genre hasn't produced something successful since Destiny 2.

MSU_Dawg87
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11-Jan(#69)
Got my picks in. Since fantasy football wrapped up I'm glad I have another fantasy league to keep up with. Lol
TalonJedi87
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11-Jan(#70)
Thanks haha I saw 2021 and got confused. Deleting now
Heavyd814life
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13-Jan(#71)
Looks like Hogwarts Legacy has been delayed to 2022. I'll send those of you who have it on your lists a PM so you can pick a replacement.

https://www.gematsu.com/2021/01/hogwarts-legacy-de...

Kommie
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13-Jan(#72)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> Looks like Hogwarts Legacy has been delayed to 2022. I'll send those of you who have
> it on your lists a PM so you can pick a replacement.
>
>
>

isn't that what Alternate Picks are for?

Heavyd814life
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13-Jan(#73)
Kommie wrote:
> Heavyd814life wrote:
>> Looks like Hogwarts Legacy has been delayed to 2022. I'll send those of you who
> have
>> it on your lists a PM so you can pick a replacement.
>>
>>
>>
>
> isn't that what Alternate Picks are for?
>
>

Yeah, but signups are still open so it's all fair game. It's only once signups close and all picks are made public that lineups are locked for the year.

BloodPuppetX
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13-Jan(#74)
I completed mine. I was waiting to see if anything new would be announced over the past couple of weeks.
Heavyd814life
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16-Jan(#75)
A quick reminder that today is the final day to signup. Please submit your picks before midnight if you'd like to join us this year.

Heavyd814life
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* 17-Jan(#76)
Okay guys, we're all set! The OP has been updated with all 26 teams. Can't believe we got 26 people! Thanks for signing up, everyone. Should be a ton of fun keeping this updated all year.

There are some really great teams and I think I may have been a little too conservative with my picks, but games without a release date always make me nervous. Hell, I was even on the fence about picking Horizon Forbidden West. I'll probably end up regretting it if some of these heavy hitters make it out this year.

There are some great picks, some of which I hadn't even considered. I am kicking myself for forgetting about 12 Minutes and Baldur's Gate (each appearing on just 2 teams). I honestly wouldn't be shocked if they ended up being 2 of the best-reviewed games of the year.

We had a few people take a shot on Elden Ring. Love it! And Horizon Forbidden West appears on 21 teams making it the most popular pick of 2021. It's followed closely by Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart (19 teams) and Monster Hunter Rise (18 teams).

I think it's going to be a really close race again this year. Good luck, everyone!

Archer
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17-Jan(#77)
I thought we couldn't do games like Baldur's Gate III, because its technically already came out? Even though its in early access, its the full game and has reviews.
Bleed_DukeBlue
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17-Jan(#78)
It's not the full game. It's just Act I. There are two more acts coming out with the full release.

Archer wrote:
> I thought we couldn't do games like Baldur's Gate III, because its technically already
> came out? Even though its in early access, its the full game and has reviews.
Heavyd814life
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17-Jan(#79)
Yeah, no actual scores for Baldur's Gate III yet. I think a game like Baldur's Gate III is definitely fair game since it's still in development.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/baldurs-gate-3

JD
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17-Jan(#80)
I have 5 unique games on my list that no one have, hopefully diablo 4 release this year and NFL2K baby

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