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Heavyd814life
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* 4-Jan(#1)
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The 2023 GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League

1. HybridCRoW Current Total: 714


Top 10:
1. A Space for the Unbound - 85
2. Atomic Heart - 72
3. Dead Space - 89
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
5. Forspoken - 66
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82
8. Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened - 76
9. Story of Seasons: A Wonderful Life
10. Wild Hearts - 79

Alternates:
1. One Piece Odyssey - 74
2. SpongeBob SquarePants: The Cosmic Shake - 70


2. Archer Current Total: 664


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 72
2. Dead Island 2 - 75
3. Dead Space - 89
4. Diablo IV
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
8. Starfield
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy XVI
2. Oxenfree II: Lost Signals


3. Roko Current Total: 595


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 82
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Rise of the Ronin
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
8. Starfield
9. Tekken 8
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Pikmin 4
2. Street Fighter 6


4. Ryan Current Total: 591


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Forza Motorsport
3. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
4. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Redfall - 64
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Street Fighter 6
2. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81


5. Best1989 Current Total: 532


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Pikmin 4
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Assassin's Creed Mirage
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82


6. Heavyd814life Current Total: 526


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Final Fantasy XVI
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
5. Forza Motorsport
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Street Fighter 6
9. The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
2. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81


7. PizzaTheHutt Current Total: 525


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
5. Kerbal Space Program 2
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Street Fighter 6
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Alan Wake II
2. Skull and Bones


8. TalonJedi87 Current Total: 518


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 72
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
2. Starfield


9. Bleed_DukeBlue Current Total: 515


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 82
2. Baldur's Gate 3
3. Diablo IV
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
6. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82


10. Sailorneorune Current Total: 501


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 82
2. Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon - 80
3. Final Fantasy XVI
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
5. Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe - 80
6. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82
7. Master Detective Archives: Rain Code
8. Street Fighter 6
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. The Plucky Squire

Alternates:
1. Sea of Stars
2. WrestleQuest


11. Lunar Current Total: 494


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3
2. Fatal Frame: Mask of the Lunar Eclipse - 69
3. Final Fantasy XVI
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure - 83
8. The Legend of Heroes: Trails Into Reverie
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Dead Island 2 - 75
2. Wild Hearts - 79


12. SilverOwl Current Total: 490


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 72
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Forspoken - 66
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl
9. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
10. Starfield

Alternates:
1. Dead Island 2 - 75
2. Street Fighter 6


13. SwiftJAB Current Total: 488


Top 10:
1. Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp - 82
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
3. Forspoken - 66
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
6. Kerbal Space Program 2
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
2. Dead Space - 89


14. Frank Current Total: 440


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
3. Forza Motorsport
4. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Resident Evil 4 - 93
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
8. Starfield
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Unannounced Mario Movie Tie-In

Alternates:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 82
2. Theatrhythm Final Bar - 88


15. Tonymack21 Current Total: 429


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82
5. Like A Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
7. Pikmin 4
8. Starfield
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp - 82
2. Baldur's Gate 3


16. Bogo Current Total: 424


Top 10:
1. Assassin's Creed Mirage
2. Diablo IV
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
4. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
7. Metroid Prime 4
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. The Wolf Among Us 2

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
2. Starfield


17. BloodPuppetX Current Total: 418


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II
2. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 82
3. Dead Island 2 - 75
4. Diablo IV
5. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
6. Final Fantasy XVI
7. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Street Fighter 6
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. ONI: Road to the Mightiest Oni
2. Process of Elimination - 65


18. Boss Current Total: 362


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV
3. Final Fantasy XVI
4. Lies of P
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Resident Evil 4 - 93
7. Sea of Stars
8. Starfield
9. Street Fighter 6
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Hollow Knight: Silksong
2. Hogwarts Legacy - 84


19. EB Current Total: 359


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
4. Forza Motorsport
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Atomic Heart - 72
2. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86


20. Mattyg00013 Current Total: 359


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
6. Forza Motorsport
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
2. Pikmin 4


21. Incubus421 Current Total: 354


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV
2. Final Fantasy XVI
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Kerbal Space Program 2
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Pikmin 4
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
2. Starfield


22. Scott Current Total: 354


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV
2. Final Fantasy XVI
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
4. Forza Motorsport
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Hollow Knight: Silksong
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
8. Pikmin 4
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Sea of Stars
2. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86


23. Bonham2 Current Total: 350


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV
3. Final Fantasy XVI
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Pikmin 4
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
2. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League


24. 3hitcombo Current Total: 333


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV
2. Hades II
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe - 80
5. Pikmin 4
6. Redfall - 64
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Starfield
9. Street Fighter 6
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Fitness Boxing Fist of the North Star
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


25. Cevil Current Total: 331


Top 10:
1. Clive 'N' Wrench - 61
2. Diablo IV
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
6. Mina the Hollower
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Sea of Stars
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Forspoken - 66
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


26. SupremeSarna Current Total: 304


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV
2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
3. Final Fantasy XVI
4. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Pikmin 4
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
8. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. The Lord of the Rings: Gollum - https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-5/the-... 38

Alternates:
1. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
2. Street Fighter 6


27. Demonalcohol Current Total: 278


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Death Stranding 2
4. Diablo IV
5. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
6. Hades II
7. Hollow Knight: Silksong
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
2. Pikmin 4


28. Metsfan718 Current Total: 273


Top 10:
1. Call of Duty: Warzone Mobile
2. Crash Team Rumble
3. Disney Illusion Island
4. MrWang And Love
5. Peppa Pig: World Adventures - 72
6. Romancelvania - 64
7. Star Trek: Resurgence - 67
8. T-Rex Dinosaur Game
9. The Last Case of Benedict Fox - 70
10. The Plucky Squire

Alternates:
1. Daydream: Forgotten Sorrow
2. Hollow Knight: Silksong


29. Thatfootballguy Current Total: 266


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3
2. Diablo IV
3. Glitched
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Sea of Stars
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy XVI
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82


30. Shane12m Current Total: 264


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3
2. Final Fantasy XVI
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Sea of Stars
8. Starfield
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Resident Evil 4 - 93
2. Street Fighter 6


31. Sefjwm Current Total: 261


Top 10:
1. Animal Well
2. Baldur's Gate 3
3. Diablo IV
4. Forza Motorsport
5. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
7. Sea of Stars
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


32. Jbjz Current Total: 247


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II
2. Assassin's Creed Mirage
3. Diablo IV
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Hollow Knight: Silksong
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. SpongeBob SquarePants: The Cosmic Shake - 70
10. Street Fighter 6

Alternates:
1. Palworld
2. Paper Ghost Stories: Third Eye Open


33. benstylus Current Total: 0


Top 10:
1. 2D Metroid Remake
2. Legacy of Kain/Soul Reaver Remake
3. New Civilization Game
4. New Hyrule Warriors Game
5. New Lego Game Based on a Comic Book/Graphic Novel IP
6. New Rayman game
7. New Shantae game
8. New Tetris game
9. New Thunder Lotus Game (Creators of Spiritfarer)
10. New Wario game

Alternates:
1. New ARMS Game
2. New EA Sports Racing Game (Not F1 or WRC)



Upcoming Releases:


May:
Star Trek: Resurgence - May 23

June:
Street Fighter 6 - June 2
Diablo IV - June 6
Daydream: Forgotten Sorrow - June 14
Crash Team Rumble - June 20
Final Fantasy XVI - June 22
Story of Seasons: A Wonderful Life - June 27

July:
The Legend of Heroes: Trails Into Reverie - July 7
Oxenfree II: Lost Signals - July 12
Pikmin 4 - July 21
Disney Illusion Island - July 28

August:
Armored Core VI - August 25
Sea of Stars - August 29
Baldur’s Gate 3 - August 31

September:
Starfield - September 6



League Overview:


Welcome to Year 6 of the GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League! This is basically fantasy football with games. Each person picks 10 games and those 10 games make up your "team" for the year. The Metacritic scores for your 10 games are tallied up at the end of the year to determine your total. Highest overall score wins. You also get 2 alternate picks (these should be safe choices) just in case one of your picks gets delayed into 2024. So if you shoot for the moon with a game like Armored Core VI and it gets pushed into 2024, one of your alternates takes its place and you don't end up with 0 points for that game. The goal is to pick games that you think have a very good chance of releasing in 2023. Don't YOLO your way into a bunch of 0s lol.

The Rules:
1. No DLC or Expansions
2. No Ports or Remasters (full remakes are allowed)
3. Alternate picks can only replace games delayed into 2024. They cannot be used to replace games in your top 10 that review poorly.

The Prizes:
1st Place: A $50 Amazon Gift Card
2nd Place: A $20 Amazon Gift Card
3rd Place: A $10 Amazon Gift Card

The Participants:
1. Heavyd814life
2. DemonAlcohol
3. PizzaTheHutt
4. EB
5. TalonJedi87
6. benstylus
7. Sailorneorune
8. Bleed_DukeBlue
9. HybridCRoW
10. Incubus421
11. SwiftJAB
12. Roko
13. Thatfootballguy
14. SilverOwl
15. Shane12m
16. Frank
17. SupremeSarna
18. Cevil
19. BloodPuppetX
20. Sefjwm
21. Ryan
22. Bogo
23. Boss
24. Archer
25. Scott
26. Lunar
27. Tonymack21
28. Mattyg00013
29. Bonham2
30. Metsfan718
31. Best1989
32. 3hitcombo
33. Jbjz


Previous Winners:
2022: Heavyd814life
2021: Ryan
2020: Mattyg00013 and Roko
2019: Heavyd814life
2018: Heavyd814life

Submit Your Picks Here: https://tally.so/r/mKpOyK
Deadline: January 18, 2023 at 11:59pm




Bleed_DukeBlue
Triple Gold Good Trader
17-Mar(#2)
This is the exact same boat I’m in. I’ve never played RE4 and am wondering how long it will take for the VR version to be ready.

Shane12m wrote:
> TalonJedi87 wrote:
>> 93 tho...yipiee! I just watched ACG's review too and usually he titles his review
>> videos "Buy, Wait for Sale or Never Touch" but his RE4R review just says "Buy
> RE4"
>> haha and this is my all time #1 RE game which will be my 5th or 6th time playing
>> through it and I still can't wait!!!
>>
>
> He’s actually recently started tagging most of his videos this way lately by saying
> don’t buy or buy. But yeah, I’m debating if I wanna play when it comes out or
> wait for the PSVR2 version later. Never played re4 before either
PizzaTheHutt
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader Has Written 3 Reviews
* 17-Mar(#3)
I feel that way too, that's also why I haven't opened RE8 yet. But for RE4, it wasn't made clear if the full game would be playable in VR or not. Some are thinking it will just be a side-story mode added in. I'm hoping they are wrong.

TalonJedi87
Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
17-Mar(#4)
Man I wish I could go back in time and experience the greatness that is RE4 for the first time again. Y’all are in for a treat.
DemonAlcohol
GameTZ Gold Subscriber Quadruple Gold Good Trader Has Written 2 Reviews
17-Mar(#5)
I'm playing through RE4 right now and it's still a good game. Tank controls are rough though.
incubus421
450 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
17-Mar(#6)
Man, the gaming industry loves their RE4...
in spite of the things it got right (being an action shooter), the horror value is just way down on it. While I see it's greatness, it's not in the same realm as the other RE's I know and love.
SupremeSarna
GameTZ Subscriber Silver Good Trader
17-Mar(#7)
RE4 is the only RE game I cared enough to spend more than $3 on. It’s a dream with Wii motion controls.

Bleed_DukeBlue
Triple Gold Good Trader
23-Mar(#8)
Atelier Ryza 3 reviews are starting to come in, and they're pretty good (87 on PC, 84 on Switch, and 82 on PS5 so far).
Frank
GameTZ Subscriber 800 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) Has Written 11 Reviews Secret Santa
23-Mar(#9)
Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:
> Atelier Ryza 3 reviews are starting to come in, and they're pretty good (87 on PC,
> 84 on Switch, and 82 on PS5 so far).

Looks like only 4 of us were brave enough to add it to our lists raspberry
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
23-Mar(#10)
Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:
> Atelier Ryza 3 reviews are starting to come in, and they're pretty good (87 on PC,
> 84 on Switch, and 82 on PS5 so far).

Thanks for the heads up! OP should now be up to date. Ryza 3 is still at 82 from 13 reviews.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-5/atel...

Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
11-Apr(#11)
Hey guys. Just updated the OP with scores for Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened (76 on Metacritic) and Process of Elimination (65 on Metacritic).

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-5/sher...
https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/proc...

HybridCRoW
Triple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
11-Apr(#12)
Oh nice! Only one more and I get the full set of scores!!!
mattyg00013
400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
13-Apr(#13)
Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League has been Delayed to February 2024
Kommie
GameTZ Subscriber 250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
13-Apr(#14)
Gives people a chance to not use it next year. Looks awful
TalonJedi87
Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 13-Apr(#15)
mattyg00013 wrote:
> Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League has been Delayed to February 2024

Ugh. Was afraid of this. And yes WB Games is going to ruin this title that I’m sure Rocksteady put its blood sweat and tears into. Stupid corpos.
HybridCRoW
Triple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
13-Apr(#16)
I don't think I've ever played a good WB game in these latest generation of games....
TalonJedi87
Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
13-Apr(#17)
Same. The last great WB published games I remember playing was The Witcher 3 and Arkham Knight. Circa 2015.
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader This user is on the site NOW (5 minutes ago)
13-Apr(#18)
mattyg00013 wrote:
> Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League has been Delayed to February 2024

Thank goodness! Now it’s off my list and re4 replaces it :)
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
18-Apr(#19)
OP updated with scores for Dead Island 2. It's at 75 on Metacritic from 40 reviews.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-5/dead...

Kommie
GameTZ Subscriber 250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
18-Apr(#20)
Not shocking
PizzaTheHutt
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader Has Written 3 Reviews
* 18-Apr(#21)
I still intend to play it, but I'm glad I ended up not putting it on my list.
The only game on my list I'm worried about at this point is Kerbal Space Program 2. It hasn't been reviewing so well on Steam, but it's still only in Early Access.

TalonJedi87
Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
18-Apr(#22)
I really thought Dead Island 2 was gonna tank. I think I’ll wait for it to come to Game Pass tho or something since I still have Dying Light 2 to sift thru.
3hitcombo
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9)
18-Apr(#23)
Curious question, what if you have a game on your list that didn’t get enough reviews for a meta score?

Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader This user is on the site NOW (5 minutes ago)
18-Apr(#24)
3hitcombo wrote:
> Curious question, what if you have a game on your list that didn’t get enough reviews
> for a meta score?
>
>

I would guess that it wouldn’t qualify and you use one of your backups.
HybridCRoW
Triple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
18-Apr(#25)
I think Heavyd814life goes back through at the end of the year to adjust the points based on ratings change because you can expect more reviews later on in the year... so maybe a game doesn't get a Metacritic score now, but in October, it gets one.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
19-Apr(#26)
HybridCRoW wrote:
> I think Heavyd814life goes back through at the end of the year to adjust the points
> based on ratings change because you can expect more reviews later on in the year...
> so maybe a game doesn't get a Metacritic score now, but in October, it gets one.

Yup! And if for some reason a game only gets say 3 reviews, I'll just average out the scores for those 3 reviews. We've never had to do that, though. Even the most niche games end up with enough reviews to get a Metacritic score.

Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
* 19-Apr(#27)
OP updated with scores for Advance Wars 1 + 2: Re-Boot Camp. It's currently at 82 on Metacritic from 49 reviews. Very solid, but I actually thought it would score higher.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/advance-war...

thatfootballguy
Triple Gold Good Trader
19-Apr(#28)
Pre-ordered the deluxe edition of FF XVI after watching the State of Play. It looks amazing, and I'm sure it is a pick by many :)
Best1989
Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Peru
19-Apr(#29)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> OP updated with scores for Advance Wars 1 + 2: Re-Boot Camp. It's currently at 82
> on Metacritic from 49 reviews. Very solid, but I actually thought it would score
> higher.
>
>
>

I was also expecting it to be higher. I had it last year and for some reason I didn't include it this time.
3hitcombo
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9)
19-Apr(#30)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> HybridCRoW wrote:
>> I think Heavyd814life goes back through at the end of the year to adjust the points
>> based on ratings change because you can expect more reviews later on in the year...
>> so maybe a game doesn't get a Metacritic score now, but in October, it gets one.
>
> Yup! And if for some reason a game only gets say 3 reviews, I'll just average out
> the scores for those 3 reviews. We've never had to do that, though. Even the most
> niche games end up with enough reviews to get a Metacritic score.
>
>

Ah sweet thanks! This is my first year and I’ve never tracked metacritic scores so it’s all new to me!


bonham2
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21-Apr(#31)
Still really bitter about Advance Wars...
PizzaTheHutt
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24-Apr(#32)
So rewinding a few days back to the Dead Island 2 review scores last week

I'm kind of surprised by the scores. I haven't played it myself yet, but the game has already passed the 1 million sold mark in its first 3 days (who knows how many more copies it would've sold on the PC side had it not been exclusive to Epic Games Store because I know I'm not alone in that I only purchase PC games from Steam), and in this thread below nobody really has anything negative to say about it, they're all saying how fun it is and some even claiming it is their current GotY. A 74, while not technically a bad score, doesn't seem to reflect all the good things I'm seeing in this thread.

The 74 Metacritic score tells me to wait and see if it goes on sale during Black Friday, but now I might pick it up a little earlier. Just need to see if PS5 and PS4 versions can play together (this should be a requirement to state if this is supported or not in PlayStation Store listings) and whether or not my co-op friend wants to.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/dead-island-2-has...

Archer
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24-Apr(#33)
@PizzaTheHutt I image the issue with this game, just like the first one. Is that it is really fun and fresh in the first ~10 hours. But then after that its just a slog of open world crap to get through with bad mission design. And the fun factor of the combat wears off. And you start to see deeper into the cracks, and all the issues you glossed over in the first ~10 hours because you were having so much fun with the combat. Also reviewers should never be trusted.
PizzaTheHutt
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* 24-Apr(#34)
Archer wrote:
> Also reviewers should never be trusted.

For the most part I never base a purchase on a Metacritic average score. For a long time there was always one or two reviewers per website who I felt I could trust, but in that line of work jobs seem temporary and they're always leaving and going to work for some other site and I got tired of tryng to keep track of where they are. These days the ones I trust the most are only on YouTube and for whatever reason Metacritic won't include their scores. Several of them don't even give scores, which I like, you have to actually watch the review to hear what they like or don't like about the game.
Kommie
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24-Apr(#35)
You know what the worst YouTube review channel is? Gameranx. They never tell you not to buy a game and it's just non sensical rambling with no cohesive script to the review ever.
Bleed_DukeBlue
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25-Apr(#36)
Star Wars: Survivor review embargo ends tomorrow morning at 10:00am CST
Heavyd814life
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25-Apr(#37)
Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:
> Star Wars: Survivor review embargo ends tomorrow morning at 10:00am CST

Cool! Previews were really positive so this should hopefully review well. Mid 80s maybe?

TalonJedi87
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25-Apr(#38)
Jedi Survivor is on my list too. I can’t wait. I’m hoping high 80s.
PizzaTheHutt
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25-Apr(#39)
There's someone out there that managed to get an early copy. He seems to be enjoying it but says there are quite a few performance issues, like lots of screen tearing.

Shane12m
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26-Apr(#40)
Jedi Survivor currently sitting at an 86 with seventy two reviews in on open critic. Hype!
TalonJedi87
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26-Apr(#41)
Sweet. As I hoped high 80s!
Shane12m
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26-Apr(#42)
Metacritic finally updated. That was lagging behind lol
Heavyd814life
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26-Apr(#43)
Just updated the OP. Great score!

It's going to be super close at the top this year. Everyone brought their A-game!

Heavyd814life
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26-Apr(#44)
Shane12m wrote:
> Metacritic finally updated. That was lagging behind lol

Yeah, I've never seen it lag like this. On mobile it tells me there are 71 reviews, but on my laptop it says 59. So weird.

Archer
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26-Apr(#45)
83 reviews now. Still an 86. Figured this would fall through out the day. Because up until today I was only hearing negative things about it. About what a technical mess it is. And how it has so many issues. Not that I mind. Its on my list. But I expected a much lower score because of the last two days of leaks and bad mouthing.
Best1989
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26-Apr(#46)
Nice! This is one I really want to play. I'll give them some time to fix any big bugs it might have, though.
PizzaTheHutt
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26-Apr(#47)
Archer wrote:
> 83 reviews now. Still an 86. Figured this would fall through out the day. Because
> up until today I was only hearing negative things about it. About what a technical
> mess it is. And how it has so many issues. Not that I mind. Its on my list. But I
> expected a much lower score because of the last two days of leaks and bad mouthing.


Same. Did reviewers just ignore all the issues? Or did they have access to the day one patch that the others playing it early didn't?
HybridCRoW
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26-Apr(#48)
Interesting, I don't think I even saw that Star Wars game....
Scott
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27-Apr(#49)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> Just updated the OP. Great score!
>
> It's going to be super close at the top this year. Everyone brought their A-game!

It's looking like this may be the first year I actually have a full 10 games that release. I'm looking forward to seeing the final results!
Heavyd814life
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27-Apr(#50)
Armored Core VI launches August 25. I didn't think there was any chance of this one hitting this year. It's only on one list. Nice pick @TalonJedi87!

TalonJedi87
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* 27-Apr(#51)
Holy Toledo! I picked that one whim cause it was From Soft and when they say something they typically mean it and they said a 2023 launch! Can’t wait!!!
Kommie
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28-Apr(#52)
Apparently Star Wars is playing poorly on console and PC. If I bother I'll wait for sub $10
TalonJedi87
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28-Apr(#53)
I heard it’s getting bashed on Steam cause of the issues. And lord knows why it’s 140 something GB for the install. That’s just morbidly obese for no reason.
Archer
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* 28-Apr(#54)
Kommie wrote:
> Apparently Star Wars is playing poorly on console and PC. If I bother I'll wait for
> sub $10

The subreddit for this game is nothing but complaints about crashes, issues and bugs. No one has anything good to say in it. Wonder how all those review scores were what they were now. Because they played without the day one patch.
Kommie
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1-May(#55)
Redfall is getting bad previews as well
Archer
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1-May(#56)
For some reason I thought Redfall dropped today. But I guess its tomorrow. Its also never a good sign when reviews are embargoed until the actual release date. Not too many times do those reviews come in glowing.
Kommie
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1-May(#57)
They don't need to release good first-party games on GamePass, throw them out broken, and fix them later. No one's really buying them
TalonJedi87
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1-May(#58)
When I found out Redfall was more of a PVP game I immediately said meh. Not surprised it’s gonna get poor reviews. Let it get buried.
Bleed_DukeBlue
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* 1-May(#59)
It's not PVP. It's co-up (more like Borderlands or The Division), which I've always liked. I'm not saying it's going to be good, but I hope it's good. Arkane Austin has talent; I loved Dishonored 2.

TalonJedi87 wrote:
> When I found out Redfall was more of a PVP game I immediately said meh. Not surprised
> it’s gonna get poor reviews. Let it get buried.
Archer
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* 1-May(#60)
Kommie wrote:
> They don't need to release good first-party games on GamePass, throw them out broken,
> and fix them later. No one's really buying them

This isn't exclusive to gamepass. It seems like 90% of all games are released too soon and need major patching. When was the last time a major AAA title released in a great state?

not that I'm trying to say Redfall is a AAA title.
Kommie
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1-May(#61)
Archer wrote:
> Kommie wrote:
>> They don't need to release good first-party games on GamePass, throw them out
> broken,
>> and fix them later. No one's really buying them
>
> This isn't exclusive to gamepass. It seems like 90% of all games are released too
> soon and need major patching. When was the last time a major AAA title released in
> a great state?
>
> not that I'm trying to say Redfall is a AAA title.

It seems to be the norm for gamepass. Even ReR4 and Dead Space had minor issues... Not quite as bad as Star Wars though
Kommie
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1-May(#62)
I guess the ACG review came out early then was removed? He called it the worst game of the year.
Heavyd814life
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1-May(#63)
Kommie wrote:
> I guess the ACG review came out early then was removed? He called it the worst game
> of the year.

Whoa! This isn’t a game I’d ever play, but it looked solid enough from the footage I saw a couple of months ago.

I think the embargo is set for 8pm EST today so we’ll know soon enough.

Bleed_DukeBlue
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* 1-May(#64)
Yikes. ACG is usually pretty spot on. That’s unfortunate.

Kommie wrote:
> I guess the ACG review came out early then was removed? He called it the worst game
> of the year.
TalonJedi87
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1-May(#65)
Yeah. Love me some ACG. He calls it like it is. It’ll be entertaining to see his input.
Kommie
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1-May(#66)
Opencritic currently has it at 68....
TalonJedi87
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1-May(#67)
Here’s ACG’s review in progress. He still says it’s one of the worst, most unpolished games he’s played in a long time.

https://youtu.be/qOMP2aihNHE
Heavyd814life
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1-May(#68)
OP updated with scores for Redfall. It's currently at 64 on Metacritic from 27 reviews.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-series-x/redf...

sefjwm
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* 9-May(#69)
Redfall has dropped a ton ouch. Silksong delayed until later in 2023

https://twitter.com/griffinmatta/status/1656106351...
bogo
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10-May(#70)
technically, they said nothing about it coming out in 2023 at all.....just that it wouldn't be in the first half of 2023
Kommie
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10-May(#71)
The Xbox Direct showcase last year ( June) said all the games shown would be playable in the next year. Silksong was one of them.... And Starfield.
Scott
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10-May(#72)
I think I'll still be able to get a full 10 games even if Silksong doesn't come out this year.
bonham2
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10-May(#73)
Me too
PizzaTheHutt
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10-May(#74)
Review embargo for Zelda should be over around 8:00AM tomorrow.

Archer
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10-May(#75)
I'm guessing it will be a 92 with 60+ reviews.
TalonJedi87
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10-May(#76)
99.9999999 or GTFO says the Ninty fanboys and girls.
Archer
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10-May(#77)
TalonJedi87 wrote:
> 99.9999999 or GTFO says the Ninty fanboys and girls.

Genesis does what Nintendon't.
Shane12m
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10-May(#78)
Archer wrote:
> I'm guessing it will be a 92 with 60+ reviews.

That’s way too low.
TalonJedi87
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10-May(#79)
Yeah if the consensus is only a mere 92 for a new Zelda game the world may implode.
Boss
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10-May(#80)
96 prob

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