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Topic   PlayStation 5 Discussion Thread

Frank
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11-Jun-2020(#1)
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Let's discuss Sony's latest console, the PlayStation 5!


Feeb
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* 4-Dec(#2)
Xbox has had "dev mode" for a couple of generations which is double edge It pretty much makes it an open book for emulating but a PC as far as security goes. No MP cheating and profits from current softs seems to be the holy grail of most securities- which is expensive to keep up lapses at the end of a gen. for obvious reasons- player base down etc. PS3 has become a "haven" for MP hackers and Sony is pretty much rolling over on it. There is a large secondary market for user modification on consoles- so it would be silly to "crush" it. It doesn't directly lead to sales but we all know as collectors and retro gamers- it has a place and influences what stays on our shelves.
longhornsk57
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4-Dec(#3)
Not really. "Hacked" PS4s go for about the same as regular ones. "Dev" mode isn't the same thing as CFW.

PS3 is old as crap I'm not actually sure how that's relevant.

I'm not saying I don't have a modded PS3, I'm saying it's not relevant to the PSNow conversation.
Feeb
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* 4-Dec(#4)
I won't pay sub fees for any sub service to play games I can emulate or play many different ways. So it does for me.🤷🏻‍♂️If you're trying to market a back catalogue and it can already be accessed without paying- sure it's relevant. It's not legal yada yada- we're skirting the edges with everything already. Personally these sub services have always been very unappealing to me for quite a few reasons- backlog, time, comfortable buying a few exclusive titles at full price etc. Everyone thinking trading your cash for something you already have to get a few titles day one etc- why? I get it when we are able to have the service for literally nothing perpetually- but be honest- we're
already looking for ways to skip these fees.

Xbox is purposely making the ecosystem more emulator friendly. When you're playing the other guys stuff better than they do it- gonna be a mess.
Feeb
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4-Dec(#5)
I'm also acutely aware that guys like me aren't the market anymore. So my views are likely pretty much moot when you're talking about dollars. But you'd better believe when I was younger and poorer- I'd never pay for this stuff if I could work around it.
DarkFact
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4-Dec(#6)
To be fair this sort of service has never been geared towards people who had no intention of paying in the first place.
Feeb
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4-Dec(#7)
Right. As long as a base account remains free you won't have to. But how long until?
longhornsk57
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4-Dec(#8)
I'd rather pay a few bucks than pirate, but that's just me
Feeb
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4-Dec(#9)
100%. I'd also like to be able to play the decades of crap I already paid them for.
longhornsk57
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4-Dec(#10)
However you justify piracy is up to you, but the point here is that no you cannot just CFW a PS4 or PS5, and in my opinion PS Now and PS+ merge is a good idea and would rival game pass because even if the games aren't new they're better than the crap MS has.
Feeb
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* 4-Dec(#11)
That's what you got outta that ok. But it's pretty far off mark of the point.

"You'll never be able to download PS3 games unless they roll out a console emulator."

You can do that with CFW. That's where the idea came from. No one is saying just pirate your ass off here...
MrBean
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4-Dec(#12)
Finished GotG, definitely much better than anticipated. Had a great time playing it.
longhornsk57
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4-Dec(#13)
What CFW is available for PS4 or PS5?
Feeb
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* 4-Dec(#14)
longhornsk57 wrote:
> What CFW is available for PS4 or PS5?

The CFW on a PS3 can do that- DL PS3 games. Not sure where the idea that you can just put CFW on your PS4 / 5 came from. Not yet.
longhornsk57
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4-Dec(#15)
We're not talking about PS3, we're talking about PS Now which isn't even on PS3.

You can already play PS3 games on PS3. the whole point was not having an emulator to run local downloaded games.

So you start talking about CFW which on PS3 has nothing to do with the conversation
MrBean
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4-Dec(#16)
ErickRPG wrote:
> MrBean wrote:
>> MrBean wrote:
> |>> ErickRPG wrote:
>> |>> I'm thinking of doing a 1 year. For $55 to have game pass for one year is
> something
>> |>> I think I might want to do. Rededem the code first, make sure auto billing
> is
> |>> off.
>> |>> And then just sign up for the gamepass $1 trail? It will convert that you
> year
>> |>> of xbox live + gold to + gamepass also?
>> |>>
>> |>> Since I'm about to get an XSX I think I want to do this now.
>> |>>
>> |>>
> |>>
> |>> I haven't done it yet, setting up for Christmas ... tell me how it goes!
>>
>> @ErickRPG did you try it?
>
> Nope, not trying til I get my Xbox Series X in. Which will be shortly after Christmas.
>
>

Just a heads up, finally did it tonight, worked like a champ.
Feeb
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* 4-Dec(#17)
longhornsk57 wrote:
> We're not talking about PS3, we're talking about PS Now which isn't even on PS3.
>
> You can already play PS3 games on PS3. the whole point was not having an emulator
> to run local downloaded games.
>
> So you start talking about CFW which on PS3 has nothing to do with the conversation

Yeah. I was keeping up. Just read the post again. Sorry for the confusion.

longhornsk57
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4-Dec(#18)
Lol it's all good man, I think overall we're in agreement and my PS3 does run CFW
kevolones
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* 4-Dec(#19)
MrBean wrote:
> Finished GotG, definitely much better than anticipated. Had a great time playing
> it.

I just had a 2 hour session and I think its the most addictive game Ive played since I finished TLOU2.
MrBean
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4-Dec(#20)
Sooo, what's the appeal of Game Pass exactly? Why is it so much better than PS Now?

Have never had it, abandoned Xbox years ago ... just signed up, legit, nothing I am looking to play on here except maybe some old 360 games I haven't seen in years.

Kinda regret just spending $165 to get 3 years of XBL to do this $1 Ultimate GP thing. I was expecting a much larger library based on all the random raving of this service.
longhornsk57
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4-Dec(#21)
The thing that people like about gamepass is that it has brand new day one releases. So for instance Gears 5 was a day one Gamepass release, Halo Infinite, Forza Horizon 5, some other games like Back 4 Blood, Outer Worlds, Psychonauts 2, and any future Bethesda game wil probably be a day one gamepass game, so like any more fallout games, DOOM, Elder Scrolls.

Plus some good third party games like DOOM 2016, DOOM Eternal, etc.

Some cool PC games, like Age of Empires 4 that I have been enjoying. That's much better because PS Now just has a bunch of old crap, you can't get anything new.

The thing is though that GamePass for me got a little old, I mean I played the games I wanted now it's just there. And all of the really good "new" games are still on Playstation. Also, I have been enjoying the PS+ games a lot more. Control Ultimate Edition, Overcooked all you can eat, etc, like the free PS5 games some of them have been really good, whereas games with gold basically doesn't even exist anymore.

When PS+ and PSNow merge, I think it iwll be just as good as GamePass because the PS4/5 catalog is so much better. Imagine being able to play all of hte Uncharted games, Last of US 1 & 2, Spiderman and Miles Morales, God of War, both Ratchet and Clanks,etc.

But ya the gamepass appeal is brand new games, day one.
Feeb
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4-Dec(#22)
MrBean wrote:
> Sooo, what's the appeal of Game Pass exactly? Why is it so much better than PS Now?
>
> Have never had it, abandoned Xbox years ago ... just signed up, legit, nothing I
> am looking to play on here except maybe some old 360 games I haven't seen in years.
>
>
> Kinda regret just spending $165 to get 3 years of XBL to do this $1 Ultimate GP thing.
> I was expecting a much larger library based on all the random raving of this service.

I had a similar experience. Got the free month and was excited to play Deaths Door- wasn't on the pass. I played psychonauts 2 and Curse of the Dead Gods for maybe 10 hours. Let it lapse and boxed up the series s / sold it got a digital ps5. I have a huge ps digital library so it was a dumb move on my part anyway.

I was pretty confused as to why Now was around so long but suddenly gamepass is a brilliant new thing. These guys explained - streaming sucks and you get some stuff on launch day on the GP. I'm not the audience.
Bleed_DukeBlue
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* 5-Dec(#23)
As @longhornsk57 mentioned, the day one thing is big. If I know I'm not going for the platinum on a cross platform game and it's on Game Pass, then I'll go that route. (I recently did that with Back 4 Blood). Also, I use Game Pass to play all the MS exclusives I missed over the years as well as PC games not on PS systems. (I used it to play Fable, Halo, and, most recently, Ori and the Blind Forest. I'm planning on using it to play Age of Empires IV too after I finish replaying the first three.) Also, since it includes Games with Gold, it's a great way to build a digital 360 library, since you can keep the 360 games even if you unsubscribe (unlike the Xbox One games which you lose access too in a similar manner to how games on PS+ operate).

My PS5 is still my main, but Game Pass was a decent part of why I bought an Xbox One X and then a Series X.

MrBean wrote:
> Sooo, what's the appeal of Game Pass exactly? Why is it so much better than PS Now?
>
> Have never had it, abandoned Xbox years ago ... just signed up, legit, nothing I
> am looking to play on here except maybe some old 360 games I haven't seen in years.
>
>
> Kinda regret just spending $165 to get 3 years of XBL to do this $1 Ultimate GP thing.
> I was expecting a much larger library based on all the random raving of this service.
TalonJedi87
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5-Dec(#24)
Even if Sony merges PS+ and PS Now Xbox will still have the advantage of day one new game first party exclusives on Game Pass. Sony even said they couldn't do day one new first party releases included in a subscription pass because it could financially cripple them if they did that. They do not have as much free floating capital as Microsoft does to just toss free AAA first party titles around on day one like it ain't no thing.
Feeb
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* 5-Dec(#25)
It would be contradictory to their established business model to give away their cash cow. There was an article earlier this year about a possible technology that emulates previous gen titles and add trophy functions to them. I think there may be truth to this as well as an expanded trial / demo offering. If used properly it can definitely add to sales.

HARD PASS. Lol.

https://www.ign.com/articles/playstation-patents-t...

Nah seriously. Retro trophies would be incentive to hit the backlog / revisit.
Dasgessabel
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5-Dec(#26)
GamePass isn't even that great to me primarily because I don't care for most of Microsoft's first party titles right now. I do appreciate it is fantastic for a good bit of people, but many of its offerings I've either already played or own on pc, or don't care to own. It's good for trying games I didn't want to buy, but it wasn't good enough for me to hang onto series X. If Sony can find a way to compete with GamePass, I don't think it needs to offer their new IPs on the service right off - people will buy them either way. Just build a competent platform to play older titles and tie it in with PsPlus and I think they will get a good sub base.
Feeb
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5-Dec(#27)
It's like having access to hundreds of games I will never play because I have shelves full of dozens of games I have never played.
DrizzDrizzDrizz
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5-Dec(#28)
Feeb wrote:
> It's like having access to hundreds of games I will never play because I have shelves
> full of dozens of games I have never played.

sounds like a scrapped line from Alanis Morissette's Ironic
benstylus
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5-Dec(#29)
Ps4's overall attach rate through 2018 was just under 10 games per console sold (according to this site.

So let's assume based on those numbers the average person buys 2 games per year (10 games per console over 5 year. Shaky math, I know, but it's a generalization, and it works for this purpose)

If they charge $15 a month for PS+Pass, that's the equivalent of 3 game purchases per year per person (or 2.6 games if they continue to insist on that 70 dollar malarkey). So they would potentially be making more money on PS+Pass than they are with retail games.

How many first party titles does Sony release every year? 6 or 7?

In 2020 we got:
Dreams
Ghost of Tsushima
Last of Us Part II
MLB The Show 20
Sackboy: A Big Adventure
Spider-Man: Miles Morales

2021
Destruction All Stars (was already given away on PS+ on day 1)
Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut (an expanded rerelease from last year)
MLB The Show 21
Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
Returnal

Let me known if I missed any big ones. Considering the best selling games on that list are in the 6 to 7 million units range, and there are 40+ million current PS+ subscribers, they could surely do it and bring some third parties in as well.


longhornsk57
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5-Dec(#30)
Feeb wrote:
> It's like having access to hundreds of games I will never play because I have shelves
> full of dozens of games I have never played.

Man exactly right. I will admit I've played some games, but maybe 10 total. This is so dead on though how much crap do well all have that we're "going to play someday?"

DrizzDrizzDrizz wrote:

>
> sounds like a scrapped line from Alanis Morissette's Ironic

Ya this made me laugh.

TalonJedi87
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5-Dec(#31)
$15 for a PS+/Now service would be legit if they would allow new releases if not day 1 then perhaps like 60-90 days post launch this way there's something to look forward to in the not to distant future post release date.
ErickRPG
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5-Dec(#32)
yeah, the only reason I'm gonna do one year of gold and then game pass convert is because both FH5 and Halo Infinite are going to be available to play. There are a few other ones on the top of my list, and then several I already own physically.

DarkFact
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* 5-Dec(#33)
The miscellaneous titles on GPU are so good. I've found some of my favorite stuff from there; Cyber Shadow, Enter the Gungeon, Minecraft Dungeons, Dicey Dungeons is really good, Slay the Spire, and the value's just nutty for other obvious crap like the Microsoft first party titles, the Yakuza series, Dooms and Wolfensteins, San Andreas remake was day 1 so you could be disappointed for free!

I look at that and think of what Sony COULD do in regards to their previous library and it's just sad it took them this long to even consider it. I want a new Sony console to be like the PS3 where I keep it forever because it's just got too much good stuff from three generations packed into one package, and let alone game pass, they don't even really seem to want to let you buy old stuff at all the past two gens. So Xbox and Nintendo have been itching most of my scratches; I'll buy a Sony console to play through a Persona 5 and a Spider-Man and then sell the thing off because I don't have any permanent use for it, I've done it like four times now. Xbox, new or old, always a reason to come back to it for me, in one box.
Feeb
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* 5-Dec(#34)
Sony has been raking with remasters / HD collections etc. It's not that they're ignoring the requests for BC as much as they're doing fine selling the same thing repeatedly. It's hard to pin down anything great that isn't available to play in some form on extant gen boxes. IMHO the company that feels the best is likely the one you've invested in more softs wise- digital or physical it makes sense. Most of us don't want to jump into another ecosystem wholeheartedly these days- because they're really isn't too much exclusive stuff to warrant it. This is my situation at least. 3 gens of PSN stuff that really is not hard to access at all. My only gripe is I've definitely had to buy many things more than once to keep up. Fix this and it's fine.

With the Xbox ecosystem- it's always been outside of my main interests as far as their exclusives go- and I barely own anything digitally except movies. I was also a bit disappointed by the true nature of the BC aspect- it definitely was not just pop in your stuff and go so I moved on. I just keep my previous gen stuff honestly.
DarkFact
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* 5-Dec(#35)
Yeah, exclusives it's not even a contest, Sony still wins for me, but in the end that's like, less than 20 games over two generations (that I even bother to look at, to be clear, I'm sure there's probably others. Like Bugsnax!), and there's a LOT of games out there, so it comes down to performance and services. I couldn't ever justify a Playstation 4 for more than it took to get through the couple of exclusives I wanted to play, Xbox always seemed like the smarter place to invest time and money into. Zero regrets.
Feeb
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5-Dec(#36)
I think that's the bottom line. Don't try to justify having the other box or which is better. Use what you got and you're doing it right.
DarkFact
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5-Dec(#37)
Yep! Never regretted getting a Playstation to play through something, but when it's time to go, it's time to go. yes
Feeb
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* 5-Dec(#38)
What really irks me is the random really cool stuff that needs to be exclusive. Weird jrpgs with Sony. Shmups for Xbox, Witcher 2. There are so many damn fine shmups across the Microsoft family but often lots of other niche stuff skips. I'll never get rid of my 360 because of my shmup collection. What needs to happen? A universal trophy / achieve system. This will create diversity in gaming. Silly but 100% true. Invent this app you're rich.
DarkFact
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5-Dec(#39)
Or a platform where all games could reside... Hmmm...
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5-Dec(#40)
DarkFact wrote:
> Or a platform where all games could reside... Hmmm...

LOL, Nintendo will never put their stuff on PC.
Feeb
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5-Dec(#41)
DarkFact wrote:
> Or a platform where all games could reside... Hmmm...

That neither costs thousands for entry nor becomes obsolete every 2 years....
Feeb
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5-Dec(#42)
Kommie wrote:
> DarkFact wrote:
>> Or a platform where all games could reside... Hmmm...
>
> LOL, Nintendo will never put their stuff on PC.

Was looking for your input because this has gone full blown communism.
DarkFact
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5-Dec(#43)
Kommie wrote:
> DarkFact wrote:
>> Or a platform where all games could reside... Hmmm...
>
> LOL, Nintendo will never put their stuff on PC.

:(
Kommie
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5-Dec(#44)
Feeb wrote:
> Kommie wrote:
>> DarkFact wrote:
> |>> Or a platform where all games could reside... Hmmm...
>>
>> LOL, Nintendo will never put their stuff on PC.
>
> Was looking for your input because this has gone full blown communism.

Nintendo would probably prefer bankruptcy over releasing games on PC.
PizzaTheHutt
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5-Dec(#45)
Kommie wrote:
> Feeb wrote:
>> Kommie wrote:
> |>> DarkFact wrote:
>> |>> Or a platform where all games could reside... Hmmm...
> |>>
> |>> LOL, Nintendo will never put their stuff on PC.
>>
>> Was looking for your input because this has gone full blown communism.
>
> Nintendo would probably prefer bankruptcy over releasing games on PC.


They used to hate on Mobile too though.
Feeb
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* 5-Dec(#46)
Until they realized that like 50% of the Chinese gaming market is mobile crack games.
MrBean
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5-Dec(#47)
Started The Pathless. Surprised at how much fun I'm having with it.
TalonJedi87
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5-Dec(#48)
The Pathless is very good. You can easily just run around wandering exploring.
ErickRPG
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6-Dec(#51)
I'm still a console player, even if PC has more games now. They'll never take my switch games! I have all 3 consoles. And I'm glad Microsoft is getting smarter about exclusives this gen.

Finn
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* 6-Dec(#52)
Boss wrote:


Unfortunately this video is false... The guy doing it is a bit of a douche. His method was laughable. Digital foundry did a comparison and found very little difference, I believe the APU was cooler but memory a little warmer. However what they don't tell you is that it's still well within acceptable tolerances and still cooler the. The series X.


I mean, just because the exhaust is hotter does not mean the system is running warmer... It means the cooling system is more efficient at pulling heat... At least in this case it is.






Dasgessabel
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6-Dec(#53)
Finn wrote:
> Boss wrote:
>
>
> Unfortunately this video is false... The guy doing it is a bit of a douche. His method
> was laughable. Digital foundry did a comparison and found very little difference,
> I believe the APU was cooler but memory a little warmer. However what they don't
> tell you is that it's still well within acceptable tolerances and still cooler the.
> The series X.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Yeah he caught ALOT of flak for that after he had to roll it back.
DarkFact
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* 6-Dec(#54)
It always cracks me up when people look at exhaust and try to decide if a system is too hot or "better" than another SKU. Like, it's exhaust. It's SUPPOSED to exhaust, fans are SUPPOSED to spin to EXHAUST heat, if this is all happening then it is DOING ITS JOB. The system is specced to run under certain temperature situations; if your system isn't overheating and shutting down, it's alllllllllllllllllll doing its job. Period. Even your jet engine of a PS4 exhaust fan. The second they said it was worse because the smaller heat sink somehow equated to the exhaust put out more heat, I was like "More heat dissipation with less material, that's the opposite of bad"

Figured they were just switching to the new heatsink for the smaller die revision incoming anyways, so even if it were somehow suboptimal, it would be for a very short amount of time, and STILL tested to be within specs regardless of thermal performance differentials. But it was a slow week in gaming news so I get why people went for the dumb, incorrect clickbait headlines
DarkFact
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* 7-Dec(#55)
Ten bucks from Uncharted 4/Lost Legacy purchase nets you the PS5 upgrade digitally for the new collection. Not bad! I still prefer Xbox's model obviously (If you own it, you get the updated version at no cost)
longhornsk57
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7-Dec(#56)
DarkFact wrote:
> Ten bucks from Uncharted 4/Lost Legacy purchase nets you the PS5 upgrade digitally
> for the new collection. Not bad! I still prefer Xbox's model obviously (If you
> own it, you get the updated version at no cost)

The only issue is that Xbox doesn't any games as good as what Naughty Dog brings.
DarkFact
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* 7-Dec(#57)
Well yeah, I'm talking upgrades in general. The 99% of the rest of the library that's shared. Not once has anyone threatened or told anyone on Xbox that they'd have to pony up more money for the XSX version. I think there's been 2-3 "scares" from Sony since the PS5 launched
Archer
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7-Dec(#58)
Sony Interactive Entertainment senior VP "terminated" for alleged paedophilic activity.

https://kotaku.com/playstation-executive-fired-aft...
Groo
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7-Dec(#59)
DarkFact wrote:
> Ten bucks from Uncharted 4/Lost Legacy purchase nets you the PS5 upgrade digitally
> for the new collection. Not bad! I still prefer Xbox's model obviously (If you
> own it, you get the updated version at no cost)

$10 each? What about the first 3?

Why not update the Vita and add it in so people feel like they getting something for their $.

If its $10 for all 5 I am down but $10 each hard pass.

Groo
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7-Dec(#60)
and its easy to pass cause I still love 1-5 and dont see anything wrong with them

DarkFact
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7-Dec(#61)
I'm thinking since it's a bundle you'll get the whole thing for ten bucks. Hard to say until next year but assume the best.

No revamp for 1-3 as it's not a new product (yet), maybe they'll just patch and release?
longhornsk57
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* 7-Dec(#62)
DarkFact wrote:
> Well yeah, I'm talking upgrades in general. The 99% of the rest of the library that's
> shared. Not once has anyone threatened or told anyone on Xbox that they'd have to
> pony up more money for the XSX version. I think there's been 2-3 "scares" from Sony
> since the PS5 launched

Well 3rd party games like CoD still charge the $10 on Series X, so I assume you're talking about 1st party games in general. Sony has already stated their first party games will be $70 moving forward on PS5, and $60 for PS4.

We'll see if MS follows suit or not, so far they haven't but I mean my points still holds that Sony first party games are better than MS, so the consumer is happy to pay the extra $10. 3rd party games like CoD still charge the fee on both systems so ya.

DarkFact
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7-Dec(#63)
Archer wrote:
> Sony Interactive Entertainment senior VP "terminated" for alleged paedophilic activity.
>
>

Getting news outlets to cover this was like pulling teeth, and once they did it was a little blurb. People we're getting banned off Resetera because there weren't any "reputable sources", fudging incredible crap. You can cancel someone off a tweet but catch a Sony exec on camera trying to meet a fifteen year old boy in the middle of the night, wearing a PS5 shirt, let's not jump to conclusions here!
Feeb
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7-Dec(#64)
Maybe I'll actually do a full play through of uncharted 2-4. I really did not love that one. Too much collecting.
Boss
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7-Dec(#65)
Thanks for sharing the info about the fan. Sadly that guy has millions of followers and is spreading disinformation to the masses like wildfire.

Always appreciate this community coming in with knowledge from other sources so we all are better informed. yes
longhornsk57
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7-Dec(#66)
I didn't collect anything on any uncharted game, just played thru the stories they're all pretty linear
Feeb
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* 7-Dec(#67)
Maybe I'll do that with the rest of the series. First one had a trophy for finding tons of treasures and vita had many different types of collectibles. OCD need to get trophies.

Uncharted was one of- if not the very first -PS3 game to have a platinum so at launch that was a big deal.
longhornsk57
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7-Dec(#68)
Oh ya OK, I never cared about trophies, honestly that sounds kind of stressful and grind and would remove the fun and flow of just playing the game.

But ya I really like all 5 UC games, a really good series
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* 7-Dec(#69)
They have Hollywood level production values- kind of like gears of war / Indiana Jones hybrids. I'll definitely revisit.
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7-Dec(#70)
I got Deathloop, not sure what to think of it, really. Is getting permanent weapons a thing?
Archer
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7-Dec(#71)
Kommie wrote:
> I got Deathloop, not sure what to think of it, really. Is getting permanent weapons
> a thing?

You get to a point where you can use one of the currency to bind them and you start each loop with them in your mission inventory. But if you take it out in the field and drop it for something else, you lose it. But just for that loop. Once a new loop starts you get it back.
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7-Dec(#72)
Kommie wrote:
> I got Deathloop, not sure what to think of it, really. Is getting permanent weapons
> a thing?

You could eventually have ur entire loadout saved, including perks
Archer
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8-Dec(#73)
Supper annoyed at this version of godfall on PS+. It doesn't let you play the story mode.
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8-Dec(#74)
Archer wrote:
> Supper annoyed at this version of godfall on PS+. It doesn't let you play the story
> mode.

You're not missing much. I was disappointed with the game and gave up on it. Super repetitive.
kevolones
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8-Dec(#75)
Archer wrote:
> Supper annoyed at this version of godfall on PS+. It doesn't let you play the story
> mode.

Is that on purpose or just a bug?

I also saw that Mortal Shell is for the PS4. I guess you cant get the free ps5 upgrade with that version either.
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8-Dec(#76)
kevolones wrote:
> Archer wrote:
>> Supper annoyed at this version of godfall on PS+. It doesn't let you play the
> story
>> mode.
>
> Is that on purpose or just a bug?
>
> I also saw that Mortal Shell is for the PS4. I guess you cant get the free ps5 upgrade
> with that version either.

It's on purpose. No free upgrade is on par with last years FF7R release, no free upgrade.

Feeb
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8-Dec(#77)
PS plus is moving towards a "demo" service it seems.
longhornsk57
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8-Dec(#78)
Feeb wrote:
> PS plus is moving towards a "demo" service it seems.

That's not necessarily true. We did get overcooked all you can eat PS5, Control Ultimate Edition etc. Sometimes it hits really nice
Kommie
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8-Dec(#79)
Haven't had anything nice in awhile though, my PS+ expired last month and really nothing this month makes me want to re up.
Feeb
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8-Dec(#80)
longhornsk57 wrote:
> Feeb wrote:
>> PS plus is moving towards a "demo" service it seems.
>
> That's not necessarily true. We did get overcooked all you can eat PS5, Control
> Ultimate Edition etc. Sometimes it hits really nice

Yeah definitely some nice offerings.

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