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Topic   Is the Switch worth it?

ft763
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26-Jan-2018(#1)
I'm in a quandary about getting it. How good is the battery life? I know it generally depends on the game graphics (GG with BotW or Skyrim or Doom etc but Minecraft has a CRAPLOAD of battery) so how long does it last with Monster Hunter? That's the main reason behind getting one...
Dustin
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27-Jan-2018(#2)
I don't know about battery life but to answer your question, yes it's absolutely worth it.
egg
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27-Jan-2018(#3)
I just can't fathom that the system would be comfortable. No dpad and due to the controls being separate attachments you can bet they will bend when picking it up plus the L/R buttons won't extend far enough. And it weighs 1.5 pounds whereas the WiiU gamepad was still too heavy at 1 pound. (Though Switch is smaller which should help somewhat) But then again I never owned a Switch so I have no idea what I'm talking about.
whitefire
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27-Jan-2018(#4)
The battery life isn't that great, but just get a power bank and a Micro USB-c, and you're all good. I'd say it's 2.5-3 hours, in my experience.

The Switch is a great console, and the versatility factor makes it a must-buy in my opinion.

benstylus
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27-Jan-2018(#5)
I like it, but I pretty much exclusively play it docked, except for games like Voez that require the touch screen. Sailorneorune uses it on the go quite a lot though, so I know portability is a big draw for some. I usually don't have much time for serious gaming on the go. Maybe a quick round of riichi mahjong on my tablet if I'm waiting on someone.

It's got the Nintendo games, so if those are your thing, you need to get it.

For me, though, so far I don't feel it's a necessary system (but then I have a Wii U game and all the original versions of the games being rereleased on Switch). Mario Odyssey is great, although I prefer the Galaxy games.

Of the other exclusives, none of them are so amazing that you can't get a similar experience somewhere else.

If you don't have a Wii U though, a switch makes a lot of sense, with Zelda, Mario Kart, Hyrule Warriors, Bayonetta 2, Donkey Kong County, Pokken Tournament, etc. all having switch versions, some of which contain a new Funky mode.

Karaiya
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27-Jan-2018(#6)
Buy the fudging thing. The only people that will tell you no are the ones who Don't own one. The console is truly wonderful.
KCPenguins
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27-Jan-2018(#7)
Is any Monster Hunter confirmed for switch?
Karaiya
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27-Jan-2018(#8)
No. They said it was already in development before Switch was announced but you never know these days.
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27-Jan-2018(#9)
egg wrote:
> I just can't fathom that the system would be comfortable. No dpad and due to the
> controls being separate attachments you can bet they will bend when picking it up
> plus the L/R buttons won't extend far enough. And it weighs 1.5 pounds whereas the
> WiiU gamepad was still too heavy at 1 pound. (Though Switch is smaller which should
> help somewhat) But then again I never owned a Switch so I have no idea what I'm talking
> about.

Don't knock it til you've actually tried it, egg. I played Xenoblade Chronicles 2 in handheld mode for 100 hours and I can tell you that it's very comfortable and doesn't feel as bulky as the Wii U Gamepad does.

PizzaTheHutt
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27-Jan-2018(#10)
KCPenguins wrote:
> Is any Monster Hunter confirmed for switch?

Japan has one but Capcom have said they have no plans to release it here.
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27-Jan-2018(#11)
The fact that indie games can be ported to Switch fairly easily is making it a versatile system. Games like Super Meat Boy, Celeste, Axiom Verge, you usually never would have seen those on a Nintendo system.
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27-Jan-2018(#12)
ft763 wrote:
> I'm in a quandary about getting it. How good is the battery life? I know it generally
> depends on the game graphics (GG with BotW or Skyrim or Doom etc but Minecraft has
> a CRAPLOAD of battery) so how long does it last with Monster Hunter? That's the main
> reason behind getting one...

Battery life is fine as long as you charge it regularly. I have never run out of battery, but then again, I probably play it 90% docked. There is no Monster Hunter, and they have specifically said the next one is NOT coming to Switch. The answer to your original question is absolutely. Yes it is worth it. Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, Arms, Splatoon 2, Xenoblade, Mario & Rabbids, and tons of great eshop games. There is something for everybody, and it keeps getting better and better every day. Someone complained about the lack of D-Pad. The arrows are fine, but if you plan on playing a bunch of 2D stuff, the pro controller is the way to go. Honestly though, I never have a problem when I play in portable mode. As far as it being too heavy, that's ridiculous. It's awesome.
ft763
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28-Jan-2018(#13)
Thank you all, really appreciate the honesty.
sixteenvolt420
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29-Jan-2018(#14)
I always play mine docked and with the pro controller. Yes, it is worth it, even if it is my secondary console. I just can't get into playing it undocked, seems too big to be a handheld, imo.
dustin11
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29-Jan-2018(#15)
I play 100% hand held mode and it works out great. Battery life is pretty good, I think I've gotten a little over 4 hours with Zelda and I've found that using head phones extends the battery life by around 10% as the speakers don't drain the battery. Its a great console that easily has the best 1st hear line up of games in history. Definitely worth it if you ask me.
Admiral
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29-Jan-2018(#16)
Karaiya wrote:
> Buy the fudging thing. The only people that will tell you no are the ones who Don't
> own one. The console is truly wonderful.

I don't own one, so I guess your argument kinda holds true here.

But I can argue against buying one without owning one - if you own a Wii U (and even more so if you own something else PLUS the Wii U), there are very few top notch games currently in stores for the Switch that you can't get elsewhere. So, if you are like me and prefer your systems to have a larger library available before plunking $300+ on them, I'd say wait.

BUT - the system itself is probably just fine. If you adore Monster Hunter that much, you will probably be happy with it.
BloodPuppetX
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29-Jan-2018(#17)
Super Mario Odyssey
Arms
Splatoon 2
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Mario + Rabbids
Golf Story

All highly rated games that weren't released on any other system. Upcoming exclusives include Bayonetta 3, Metroid Prime 4, Mario Tennis: Aces, SMT 5, Octopath Traveler and whatever else I'm missing and whatever they announce at E3. This is a system that has only been out for 10 months. I'm very glad that I own one.

dustin11
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29-Jan-2018(#18)
Its 1st library is what everything else released from now on will be compared, its been incredible what we've gotten so far.
Finn
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29-Jan-2018(#19)
When I get one this November I am going to be set!

Mario Tennis Aces
Mario Odessy
Mario + Rabbids
Mario Kart
Splatoon 2
Arms

Never played Bayonetta so I am not sure about it. The first one was on ps3 and 360 correct? The 3rd party stuff I will get on PS4. I always buy my Nintendo consoles strictly for 1st party and it's looking like that alone will keep me more then entertained. Now I just need a Mario party game.






ft763
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* 29-Jan-2018(#20)
Admiral wrote:
> Karaiya wrote:
>> Buy the fudging thing. The only people that will tell you no are the ones who
> Don't
>> own one. The console is truly wonderful.
>
> I don't own one, so I guess your argument kinda holds true here.
>
> But I can argue against buying one without owning one - if you own a Wii U (and even
> more so if you own something else PLUS the Wii U), there are very few top notch games
> currently in stores for the Switch that you can't get elsewhere. So, if you are like
> me and prefer your systems to have a larger library available before plunking $300+
> on them, I'd say wait.
>
> BUT - the system itself is probably just fine. If you adore Monster Hunter that much,
> you will probably be happy with it.

I DO adore games of that sort, thanks again. But the main problem is the hefty price tag...almost $500 AU.
tonymack21
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29-Jan-2018(#21)
Finn wrote:

>
> Never played Bayonetta so I am not sure about it. The first one was on ps3 and 360
> correct?

yes, then bayo 2 was on wii u. bayo 1 and 2 collection is hitting switch with bayo 1 as a download. then bayo 3 will be out sometime.

im sure I would use mine more if the portable thing was a draw, but I don't go anywhere I can use that, so it doesn't go anywhere with me. the kids are addicted to fortnite right now, so they aren't using theirs much.
I have it because there are going to be enough good rpgs im going to want to play that wont be on anything else, like xenoblade 2, octopath, smt5, etc. but I didn't buy a ps4 pro, an OneX, and a fancy 4k tv to play high end multiplat games on it. its the best system Nintendo has done since the snes imo, so depending on what you want it for and what you are gonna do with it then its worth it.


dustin11
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29-Jan-2018(#22)
tonymack21 wrote:
> Finn wrote:

> im sure I would use mine more if the portable thing was a draw, but I don't go anywhere
> I can use that, so it doesn't go anywhere with me. the kids are addicted to fortnite
> right now, so they aren't using theirs much.
> I have it because there are going to be enough good rpgs im going to want to play
> that wont be on anything else, like xenoblade 2, octopath, smt5, etc. but I didn't
> buy a ps4 pro, an OneX, and a fancy 4k tv to play high end multiplat games on it.
> its the best system Nintendo has done since the snes imo, so depending on what
> you want it for and what you are gonna do with it then its worth it.
>
>
>

I'm in the same boat. I didn't drop the cash on an X1X and 4K OLED to play my multiplats on the Switch. Its got such a good 1st party lineup that its worth buying on that alone though and by its 4th year on the market it will more than likely have a vastly better library than the PS4 and X1 have right now combined.
tonymack21
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* 29-Jan-2018(#23)
I don't know about that for me personally, but no question lots of people are going to feel that way, as the witcher 3 and persona 5 are my number 1 and 2 games all time, and other games like nier automata, ff15, and others are top 20, and I expect dragon quest 11 and CP2077 to join that. some of the games coming to ps4 (and some to xbox) have the potential to be top 10 games on those systems, we may not have seen the 10/20 best games on these yet, as we certainly haven't on switch either it being so new, before its life is over they may blow away breath of the wild. Nintendo first party really isn't my big thing though, im in that section of gamer, so for me I don't think the library can eclipse the ps4, which for me is likely to be the best all time when its through, especially if persona 6(which maybe ps5, as it will be forever), FF7R and cp2077 also end up on my top 10 ever, along with other big things that have yet to come.

one thing is for sure though, we again have 3 amazing systems on the market, its the best time to be a gamer ever I think, at 36 ive been at this since I could hold an Atari stick, and I don't think we've seen a time as incredible as where we are. its really amazing, my kids don't get it, they've never known non high def gaming, Atari, nes, genesis, all that is novelty to them, they are amazed that it was at one time the pinnacle.

dustin11
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* 29-Jan-2018(#24)
I was pretty much talking true exclusives. If you take both PS4 and X1's true exclusives and combine them (can ONLY be played on that one particular console), then the list is incredibly small for 4+ year old consoles.
tonymack21
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* 29-Jan-2018(#25)
oh ya, they've definitely shot for really huge games and quality over quantity this gen, ps4's list is really big, but you have to count some niche stuff. I think we have seen a shift from the days of Nintendo and sega making the hardware and then making a lot of games to what we have now being more dependant on third party to round out the libraries. combined with really long dev times, and budgets pushing third parties to get on as many platforms as they can to maximize sales.


dustin11
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29-Jan-2018(#26)
yeah, for sure. I think big budget exclusives will become fewer and further between in the coming generations, they just cost too much money for a company to do that they can't expect one to sell 10 million copies on one console to break even. I think that Nintendo probably spends less on dev costs though, just because they don't chase games with big set pieces and high end graphics but rather games with more simplistic graphics (not simplistic in a bad way, though) which keeps costs down dramatically. Nintendo's 1st party attach rate is insane too. Far higher than anything MS or Sony have made this gen by a HUGE margin.
tonymack21
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* 29-Jan-2018(#27)
YES that's so true at one point they were claiming BOTW had as many copies sold as the console .

And ya i feel you on simplistic but not bad. Mario karts charm comes from its style ..if it looked like forza that would be a little odd


And ya I think multiplat for big budget titles will be more and more standard unless one of the console makers helps fund it as devs/pubs are gonna need max exposure to sell enough games.

KCPenguins
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29-Jan-2018(#28)
tonymack21 wrote:
> YES that's so true at one point they were claiming BOTW had as many copies sold as
> the console .
>
>
>

That's because you have consumers who are obsessive with the series and buy every version released.. looking @MrBean.
dustin11
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29-Jan-2018(#29)
I think Zelda on the Switch had an attach rate of 1.05:1 not too long after launch. Pretty insane. Splatoon also became the only 1st party game this decade to sell over 2 million in Japan. Their games sell ridiculous on their own consoles.
MrBean
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30-Jan-2018(#30)
KCPenguins wrote:
> tonymack21 wrote:
>> YES that's so true at one point they were claiming BOTW had as many copies sold
> as
>> the console .
>>
>>
>>
>
> That's because you have consumers who are obsessive with the series and buy every
> version released.. looking @MrBean.

Who, me? (hides 10 copies of FFXV)

Admiral
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30-Jan-2018(#31)
I assume you were replying to me, in which case I need to start with "UGH"....

Can I state an opinion about the Switch without someone coming in trying to prove ME wrong about my OPINION??? Well, time to refute I suppose.

BloodPuppetX wrote:
> Super Mario Odyssey

That's the only one.

> Arms

This will be totally forgotten in the near future.

> Splatoon 2

Don't give two craps about this, or other online multiplayer for that matter.

> Xenoblade Chronicles 2
> Mario + Rabbids

These reviewed fairly well, but aren't system sellers for me by ANY Stretch.

> Golf Story
>

I would love to have this on PS4, but again - not a system seller.

> Upcoming exclusives
> include Bayonetta 3, Metroid Prime 4, Mario Tennis: Aces, SMT 5, Octopath Traveler
> and whatever else I'm missing and whatever they announce at E3. This is a system
> that has only been out for 10 months. I'm very glad that I own one.

I don't buy a system for "upcoming" games. Ever. I buy them WHEN they have amazing games already out.
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30-Jan-2018(#32)
Admiral wrote:
> I assume you were replying to me, in which case I need to start with "UGH"....
>
> Can I state an opinion about the Switch without someone coming in trying to prove
> ME wrong about my OPINION??? Well, time to refute I suppose.
>
> BloodPuppetX wrote:
>> Super Mario Odyssey
>
> That's the only one.
>
>> Arms
>
> This will be totally forgotten in the near future.
>
>> Splatoon 2
>
> Don't give two craps about this, or other online multiplayer for that matter.
>
>> Xenoblade Chronicles 2
>> Mario + Rabbids
>
> These reviewed fairly well, but aren't system sellers for me by ANY Stretch.
>
>> Golf Story
>>
>
> I would love to have this on PS4, but again - not a system seller.
>
>> Upcoming exclusives
>> include Bayonetta 3, Metroid Prime 4, Mario Tennis: Aces, SMT 5, Octopath Traveler
>> and whatever else I'm missing and whatever they announce at E3. This is a system
>> that has only been out for 10 months. I'm very glad that I own one.
>
> I don't buy a system for "upcoming" games. Ever. I buy them WHEN they have amazing
> games already out.

When you advocate against someone buying something that you don't even have then you should expect to be called out on it. You're free to have your opinion as everyone is, but you should let people who actually own the thing give advice to someone considering buying one.
dustin11
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30-Jan-2018(#33)
Rabbids was one of the best games I played last year and probably the biggest surprise for me this decade. I thought it was going to be meh but it turned out to be terrific.
BloodPuppetX
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30-Jan-2018(#34)
I was replying to your post, @Admiral, but I wasn't trying to convince YOU to buy one. You told him (original poster) to wait until the system had a bigger library - when you said "I'd say wait" - before buying one. That deserved a response, because the system already has a large enough library to warrant a purchase, as far as some of us are concerned. If those games don't appeal to the guy who asked for input, then I agree that he should probably take your advice and wait.

That is actually what I always did myself prior to the Switch, btw. This is the first system I've ever bought in it's first year. (Well, also the New 3DS, but plenty of 3DS games were already available by that point.)

Admiral
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30-Jan-2018(#35)
Dustin wrote:
> When you advocate against someone buying something that you don't even have then
> you should expect to be called out on it.

My post was CLEARLY written to note that I don't own one - BUT, if he is a gamer similar to me, then this is how I feel. I didn't say definitively "YES!!!" or "NO!!!" (as another user did when they literally said FUDGING BUY ONE with no other reason other than it's wonderful). I actually gave legit reasons/opinions as to why someone LIKE ME wouldn't want to plunk $300 on one, and then right after it gave a legit reason/opinion why he SHOULD buy it.

There is no proving me wrong or calling me out here. If he has similar feelings about consoles as I do, then he might want to consider the same things that I consider when thinking about buying the Switch.


> You're free to have your opinion as everyone is, but you should let people who actually own the thing give advice to someone considering buying one.

No I shouldn't. People that own one can give their perspective as an owner, sure...but truly - these same people could be justifying their own purchase by claiming it's amazing, right? I would think some owners could be just as biased, or more, as I could be as a non-owner.

That being said, why can't I give perspective as a potential buyer who just isn't ready to pull the trigger? Maybe I have some thoughts that he didn't consider at the time?

Gotta be honest, the Nintendo Switch Fanboyism (of trying to convince everyone how amazing it is) is really over the top around here.

rolls eyes
Dustin
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30-Jan-2018(#36)
Your post doesn't read like an "in my opinion". It reads as you crapting on it for not having enough games, like you did in the other thread. You shouldn't advocate against someone owning something that you don't even own yourself. Don't you think people that actually own the product would be more equipped to speak about it than someone who doesn't? Your reasoning is that it doesn't have enough games that YOU PERSONALLY find appealing. That's a silly reason to tell someone not to buy something.
Admiral
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30-Jan-2018(#37)
BloodPuppetX wrote:
> I was replying to your post, @Admiral, but I wasn't trying to convince YOU to buy
> one. You told him (original poster) to wait until the system had a bigger library
> - when you said "I'd say wait" - before buying one. That deserved a response, because
> the system already has a large enough library to warrant a purchase, as far as some
> of us are concerned.

Then you and I a) disagree on which games are top notch (obviously) and b) disagree on how MANY games is enough to warrant a purchase. I'm a cheapassgamer, so I wait for games to get cheaper, and buy lots of them. This justifies my purchase more than having 4-6 titles available for a full price $300 system. To each his own. If he's more like you, he should listen to you.

> If those games don't appeal to the guy who asked for input,
> then I agree that he should probably take your advice and wait.

That's all I'm saying wink
Admiral
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* 30-Jan-2018(#38)
Dustin wrote:
> Your post doesn't read like an "in my opinion". It reads as you crapting on it for
> not having enough games, like you did in the other thread. You shouldn't advocate
> against someone owning something that you don't even own yourself. Don't you think
> people that actually own the product would be more equipped to speak about it than
> someone who doesn't? Your reasoning is that it doesn't have enough games that YOU
> PERSONALLY find appealing. That's a silly reason to tell someone not to buy something.

When I wrote "if you are like me" in that original post, he should take that as, in my opinion, he might want to look into how many games interest him on the system. I say there are very few AAA games making it worth owning. He should look into that if he wants a larger library than what is available.

If he's happy with what is out, then that's cool too. But there are plenty of people that think the Switch library isn't great yet, and it's a reason to not own one if a gamer feels that way.

Not sure how else I can say it. I didn't tell him explicitly to NOT purchase one.

I guess I'll just have to stay out of the Switch discussions until I actually own one...don't want to say anything negative and ruffle feathers.
dustin11
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30-Jan-2018(#39)
I guess the question is; does the OP own a Wii U?
Dustin
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30-Jan-2018(#40)
dustin11 wrote:
> I guess the question is; does the OP own a Wii U?

There's like 7 people that own a Wii U.
Scott
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30-Jan-2018(#41)
I think it's totally reasonable for somebody who has chosen not to buy a Switch to share their perspective on why they haven't. But, it's also perfectly reasonable for others to offer counterpoints to that perspective.

dustin11
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30-Jan-2018(#42)
Dustin wrote:
> dustin11 wrote:
>> I guess the question is; does the OP own a Wii U?
>
> There's like 7 people that own a Wii U.

Exactly. For those who still own one, and have friends who still play regularly on it, then I could see the reservations of now being able to justify buying the Switch. But if you don't own a Wii U, then there are more than enough reasons to buy the Switch.
benstylus
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30-Jan-2018(#43)
i own a switch and a Wii U.

from my perspective, the Switch isn't a must-buy at the moment if you are worried about getting your money's worth.
A used Wii U plus all the relevant Wii U games either now on switch or being ported will cost about as much as just the switch console.

the only thing I think the switch has the advantage on right now is the portability, which is a non-issue for me.

sure if you buy the wii u, you don't get to play odyssey. But you have super mario 3d world, and galaxy 1 and 2 available, which are each every bit as good.
ft763
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* 30-Jan-2018(#44)
Seems there's a crapload of arguments started over the switch.

Anyways

dustin11 wrote:
> I guess the question is; does the OP own a Wii U?

I don't have one. But at EB games I was asking the counter if the switch was worth getting. Thus this topic.
benstylus
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30-Jan-2018(#45)
ft763 wrote:
> Seems there's a crapload of arguments started over the switch.
>
> Anyways
>
> dustin11 wrote:
>> I guess the question is; does the OP own a Wii U?
>
> I don't have one. But at EB games I was asking the counter if the switch was worth
> getting. Thus this topic.
>

In the end, whether it's worth it or not is a very personal thing.

For some people it will be the must have console of the ages, for others, they may not care one whit.

I do believe you have enough info in this thread to make an appropriate decision on whether it is right for you right now.
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30-Jan-2018(#46)
benstylus wrote:
> ft763 wrote:
>> Seems there's a crapload of arguments started over the switch.
>>
>> Anyways
>>
>> dustin11 wrote:
> |>> I guess the question is; does the OP own a Wii U?
>>
>> I don't have one. But at EB games I was asking the counter if the switch was worth
>> getting. Thus this topic.
>>
>
> In the end, whether it's worth it or not is a very personal thing.
>
> For some people it will be the must have console of the ages, for others, they may
> not care one whit.
>
> I do believe you have enough info in this thread to make an appropriate decision
> on whether it is right for you right now.

Yup.

dustin11
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30-Jan-2018(#47)
ft763 wrote:
> Seems there's a crapload of arguments started over the switch.
>
> Anyways
>
> dustin11 wrote:
>> I guess the question is; does the OP own a Wii U?
>
> I don't have one. But at EB games I was asking the counter if the switch was worth
> getting. Thus this topic.
>

Well, if you don't have a Wii U, and thus don't have access to MK8 or BotW, then I would say that the Switch is definitely worth it. The argument of the Switch not being worth it because you can play "X" game on the Wii U become invalid if you don't own said Wii U.
ft763
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30-Jan-2018(#48)
Well thank you so much. But in the first place I wasn't even stating that the switch isn't worth getting because I can play (insert game here) on the Wii U.
dustin11
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30-Jan-2018(#49)
I know you weren't, but that's one counter argument that I've seen as to why you can't add MK8 and BotW to the list of reasons to own a Switch.
ft763
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* 30-Jan-2018(#50)
Like I said, it's only the hefty price tag that makes me indecisive...

I DO adore games of that sort, thanks again. But the main problem is the hefty price tag...almost $500 AU.
MrBean
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30-Jan-2018(#51)
dustin11 wrote:
> Rabbids was one of the best games I played last year and probably the biggest surprise
> for me this decade. I thought it was going to be meh but it turned out to be terrific.
>

Agreed, loved it.
Admiral
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31-Jan-2018(#52)
benstylus wrote:
> A used Wii U plus all the relevant Wii U games either now on switch or being ported
> will cost about as much as just the switch console.

PLUS....IMO, get the Wii U now while the systems and games are still available and somewhat affordable. This was a poorly selling console (~14 mil....just slightly more than a TG16 and Master System!) when compared to other Nintendo systems - and we all know Nintendo systems are sought after, sometimes pricey, and harder to find as time goes on. Same goes for the games yes Even the N64, which sold 3x as much as the Wii U, can be

Not to mention, those tablets are going to break more and more as time passes.
dustin11
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31-Jan-2018(#53)
GCN is still easily bought for like $20-30. There are some Nintendo consoles that don't really fetch that much money. I would actually be willing to bet that if you buy the Wii U now then you're buying it at as much as its going to be from now on. N64 is cheap, GCN is cheap, Wii is cheap, etc..... Only one that fetches a high price is the Virtual Boy and possibly the GB Micro.
dustin11
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31-Jan-2018(#54)
Isn't the Switch region free? If so, couldn't you just buy a cheaper US model and have it shipped to you rather than paying the premium of buying it in your own country?
Admiral
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31-Jan-2018(#55)
dustin11 wrote:
> GCN is still easily bought for like $20-30. There are some Nintendo consoles that
> don't really fetch that much money. I would actually be willing to bet that if you
> buy the Wii U now then you're buying it at as much as its going to be from now on.
> N64 is cheap, GCN is cheap, Wii is cheap, etc..... Only one that fetches a high price
> is the Virtual Boy and possibly the GB Micro.

Ehhhhhh, you are probably right about the console itself. If Gamestop clearances them out, I can see the system dropping in price. But I can definitely see the games going up quickly once you can't find them in store.

The N64 is rising in price, and the GC/Wii are not really comparable IMO because they both had successors that were backwards compatible, which made those systems near worthless.

Similar to how PS2's are still worth a little bit, since many PS3's don't play PS2 games - but PS1's can be had for a song.
dustin11
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31-Jan-2018(#56)
LOL, PS2s are some of the cheapest consoles you can buy. I see them all the time for $40 with 10 games. They're practically free. DCs are cheap as well (~$40) and even Saturns only fetch $50-100. SNES still does okay though, around Saturn prices and PS1s are super cheap as well.

Heres what they're going for locally for me right now:

SNES: $55
N64: $50
GCN: $35
Wii: $30
Wii U: $140

PS1: $10
PS2: $30
PS3: $$60

Genesis: $20
Saturn: $70
Dreamcast $60

Consoles drop in price like crazy unless they're some weird kind of 1-off like the CDX or one of those rare colored variations. Wii U won't maintain its current price and will continue to drop.
Admiral
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31-Jan-2018(#57)
Keep in mind though that those other systems could be had for SUPER cheap in store at the end of their life. There is a hardcore Wii U base, and stores aren't lowering prices on anything yet. Isn't that a little strange?

I think the Wii U is a little different for some reason. It just doesn't seem like the same old "failure of a system being reduced to clear stock" situation like we normally see.
dustin11
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31-Jan-2018(#58)
That's because the Wii U costs Nintendo a ton of money to produce so it isn't cheap for the stores to buy them. Once its in the resale market then what it cost to produce no longer matters and rarity/desirability takes over, and if the Switch is getting most of the Wii U's library, as well as better versions of those games, then that makes the Wii U irradiant and not worth owning and a resulting price free fall soon follows. 14-15 million won't make it rare enough to maintain 2nd hand value, not for probably 20-30 years at least. Don't get me wrong, I'm not selling mine every, but spending the money right now at a high point rather than applying towards the Switch would be a little crazy.
Admiral
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31-Jan-2018(#59)
I'll agree with you to a certain extent if we're talking about the console...


but I think the Wii U games - especially the great ones that are cheap-ish - will be worth a good amount at some point. Kind of like the Dreamcast.

This IS a Nintendo system we're talking about.
dustin11
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31-Jan-2018(#60)
Admiral wrote:
> I'll agree with you to a certain extent if we're talking about the console...
>
>
> but I think the Wii U games - especially the great ones that are cheap-ish - will
> be worth a good amount at some point. Kind of like the Dreamcast.
>
> This IS a Nintendo system we're talking about.

Yup, I agree. Which is why I went out and bought a bunch of them new and am keeping them sealed smile

Starfox Zero and Tokyo Mirage Sessions were my previous two.
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31-Jan-2018(#61)
im thinking in the future the gamepads are going to be the problem with wii u? if that goes down you're hurting in a lot of games and at some point Nintendo may stop working on them? someone will work on them but imagine what they could charge.

dustin11
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31-Jan-2018(#62)
It will be like the N64 joysticks. Hopefully some 3rd party will make them, all though who knows how much they would have to charge if they're not making them in large enough numbers to keep the price reasonable.
Admiral
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31-Jan-2018(#63)
I actually still have a sealed Zelda Windwaker HD System bundle...It's going for $650ish on Amazon, so it's tempting me to sell it - but I think once these systems start breaking, people are going to be begging for a fresh new gamepad.
dustin11
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31-Jan-2018(#64)
That thing will skyrocket in price in a few years. A sealed Wii U Zelda console will continue to climb in value for a while.
ft763
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31-Jan-2018(#65)
dustin11 wrote:
> LOL, PS2s are some of the cheapest consoles you can buy. I see them all the time
> for $40 with 10 games. They're practically free. DCs are cheap as well (~$40) and
> even Saturns only fetch $50-100. SNES still does okay though, around Saturn prices
> and PS1s are super cheap as well.
>
> Heres what they're going for locally for me right now:
>
> SNES: $55
> N64: $50
> GCN: $35
> Wii: $30
> Wii U: $140
>
> PS1: $10
> PS2: $30
> PS3: $$60
>
> Genesis: $20
> Saturn: $70
> Dreamcast $60
>
> Consoles drop in price like crazy unless they're some weird kind of 1-off like the
> CDX or one of those rare colored variations. Wii U won't maintain its current price
> and will continue to drop.

What about a drop in the switch price? When do you estimate THAT will happen, if ever?
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31-Jan-2018(#66)
tomorrow
dustin11
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31-Jan-2018(#67)
ft763 wrote:
> dustin11 wrote:
>> LOL, PS2s are some of the cheapest consoles you can buy. I see them all the time
>> for $40 with 10 games. They're practically free. DCs are cheap as well (~$40)
> and
>> even Saturns only fetch $50-100. SNES still does okay though, around Saturn prices
>> and PS1s are super cheap as well.
>>
>> Heres what they're going for locally for me right now:
>>
>> SNES: $55
>> N64: $50
>> GCN: $35
>> Wii: $30
>> Wii U: $140
>>
>> PS1: $10
>> PS2: $30
>> PS3: $$60
>>
>> Genesis: $20
>> Saturn: $70
>> Dreamcast $60
>>
>> Consoles drop in price like crazy unless they're some weird kind of 1-off like
> the
>> CDX or one of those rare colored variations. Wii U won't maintain its current
> price
>> and will continue to drop.
>
> What about a drop in the switch price? When do you estimate THAT will happen, if
> ever?

Hard to say. Wii U was an all around weird system and difficult to predict. Probably not until Game Stop isn't selling used consoles for $190 though.
ft763
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31-Jan-2018(#68)
Hmm yeah, I might just get it at full price despite the hefty cost.
dustin11
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31-Jan-2018(#69)
Wii U has a fantastic library. Very overlooked.
Admiral
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1-Feb-2018(#70)
For me, the Wii U blows away the N64. It's right up there with the Wii and Gamecube, maybe slightly behind them in terms of AA-AAA titles in it's library.

If not for nostalgia, I'd probably be close to putting it past the NES too TBH.

Nothing beats the SNES though.
dustin11
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1-Feb-2018(#71)
I would put it above the GCN. So many cool titles on the Wii U like Captain Toad that just had you playing with a huge stupid smile on your face.
Scott
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1-Feb-2018(#72)
Admiral wrote:
> For me, the Wii U blows away the N64. It's right up there with the Wii and Gamecube,
> maybe slightly behind them in terms of AA-AAA titles in it's library.
>
> If not for nostalgia, I'd probably be close to putting it past the NES too TBH.
>
> Nothing beats the SNES though.

Wii U is 2nd to only the SNES, for me.

SNES
Wii U
NES
GC
N64

The Switch is off to such a strong start, I imagine it will at least pass the Wii U when all is said and done, but maybe even SNES shock

dustin11
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1-Feb-2018(#73)
Wii U games are BOGO free at Target starting on the 4th of this month.
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* 1-Feb-2018(#74)
Scott wrote:
> Admiral wrote:
>> For me, the Wii U blows away the N64. It's right up there with the Wii and Gamecube,
>> maybe slightly behind them in terms of AA-AAA titles in it's library.
>>
>> If not for nostalgia, I'd probably be close to putting it past the NES too TBH.
>>
>> Nothing beats the SNES though.
>
> Wii U is 2nd to only the SNES, for me.
>
> SNES
> Wii U
> NES
> GC
> N64
>
> The Switch is off to such a strong start, I imagine it will at least pass the Wii
> U when all is said and done, but maybe even SNES shock
>
>
I think that would be my list too, though I do have some pretty strong childhood memories of the NES, and on some days would put it at 2 behind snes, the nostalgia is so strong, but the practice of playing nes games now is harder for me. but if we are talking quality and of the library especially I think id go with that list too, but switch def has the real potential more than anything since the snes to eclipse the snes.


Scott
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1-Feb-2018(#75)
Yeah, my ranking is mostly how good the libraries are now, but I suppose I give a small consideration for how good they were for their time.

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1-Feb-2018(#76)
ya at the time id probably rate nes a little higher but they were kinda the only game in town in its heyday more than the others were. my brother and I pulled the old nes out a few years back for an afternoon of childhood memories but much of it hadn't aged as well and weren't as grand as we'd remembered. ive played some snes over recent years and that one generation jump has helped the aging a lot. in a lot of ways I feel like 4th gen has aged a lot better than 5th, which is for the one that aged the worst.

dustin11
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1-Feb-2018(#77)
NES has aged terrible. I tried to play some of the games on the NES Classic and almost all of them were a lot worse than I remembered. The good ones were still Punchout and the Mario games, most of the others were pretty bad, granted I didn't play all of them. I also got that Disney Afternoon Collection thing and they were all bad with the exception of Duck Tales 1 & 2. Also, all the Mega Man games were still fantastic.
Scott
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1-Feb-2018(#78)
With the NES, I can still enjoy most of the games I enjoyed as a kid. However, I find it hard to get into an NES game I've never played before.

tonymack21
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1-Feb-2018(#79)
so much of it is so much slower than we remembered was one of our biggest observations, and modern controls will really spoil you.

dustin11
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1-Feb-2018(#80)
A lot of NES games were really short and relied on your playing enough times to memorize everything in order to complete it. That's was fine when I was a kid and had all the time it the world to play the same game over and over again, but as an adult with only limited gaming time its a pretty terrible gameplay model.

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