Bad Traders


Bad Traders

CrazyEights BTRs10-Sep-2007
Status: active
Email: lmcinvaille@yahoo.com
Address: lmcinvaille@yahoo.com
Reporter: Reed

Loaned him $38 a few months ago, never got repaid, filed claim with paypal, won, and was awarded $3 or something, lol. .

praeto72 BTRs5-Sep-2007
Status: active
Email: ripbirdlady@gmail.com
Address: 6610 Gateshead Ln. Apt. 2a,Indianapolis, IN - 46220
Reporter: fgwood

I have sent and he has confirmed that he received Madden 07. I contacted because I had not received Table Tennis Game. He apologized and promised to send it. Has not responded to messages and it has been several weeks since last contact. Please advise.

ccurcillo BTRs5-Sep-2007
Status: active
Email: ccurcillo@hotmail.com
Address: 230 Tar Heel Dr. Delaware OH 43015
Reporter: futureman

Ccurcillo agreed to trade The Collector's Edition of Atlantis: The Lost Empire 2 Disc DVD for The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time cart only for N64 on July 27th. In the trade it was stated that Zelda was cart only and ccurcillo wrote in Atlantis: The Lost Empire (DVD) and I asked and made sure it was the Collector's Edition. On his list he had Atlantis: The Lost Empire -- Collector's Edition DVD (condition: very good, box: yes). We agreed to send at the same time, yet ccurcillo didn't send until he received on August 2nd. He sent 2 DVDs and the cover art bent. I messaged ccurcillo and asked where the case was, he said that he never said he said he had the case even though when I asked he promptly deleted Atlantis from his list. His arguments from this point included that my game didn't come with a case, and a link for $10 cases that he said were .35. The mods got involved and he told them that no one should send cases to save on shipping, and as of September 5th a majority of his DVDs on his list state they include the case. I asked for Zelda back but he said that he didn't have it anymore, and he wouldn't say what happened to it, he should have gotten it at the same time, but he supposedly got rid of it before the trade was completed. If you look at his ratings you can see that he sometimes doesn't send what is agreed on or leaves out pertinent information. I would like $15 for Zelda, and money to ship the DVDs and cover art if he wants them back. I haven't heard from ccurcillo since August 8th, he never offered to send the case as he states in his comments and he is selling a copy of Zelda Ocarina of Time on half.com for 15.95 yet he thinks $15 for Zelda is unfair. Here is the link, the game has been on for at least 3 days as of September 9th. http://product.half.ebay.com/The-Legend-of-Zelda-O...

[ This Note Added by GameTZ Moderators 09/05/07 : We exchanged several emails with both ccurcillo and futureman over this situation. We even had to check backups to confirm that ccurcillo's original Atlantis: The Lost Empire DVD listing said "box: yes". Given that ccurcillo's listing said it had the box, it seems strongly implied that the trade included the box. When ccurcillo created the offer, he manually entered the DVD's name and excluded condition and box info by so doing (was this intentional?). He didn't mention he wasn't sending the DVD box anywhere. At best, this seems sneaky to us. At worst, it was deliberate "bait & switch" deception.

When we talked to ccurcillo about this, he told us, "I have just gotten in the practice of only sending inserts to save on shipping, figuring that if most people did this, everyone would have extra DVD cases on hand. And, if someone complains, I can offer to purchase them a DVD
case."

What?! I was shocked by this response. It's OK to do this, but if you're going to do it, you have to be clear about it. Simply not mentioning it, especially after you listing says it had a box, is deceptive. As futureman mentioned ccurcillo is still listing most of his items has having boxes, yet he apparently has no intention of sending boxes.

futureman is a collector who wanted a complete/original DVD. When he didn't get what he was expecting, ccurcillo was entirely unhelpful. He said, "I never said that my DVD included the case. I don't have your Zelda game anymore."

ccurcillo seems to feel he owes futureman $0.25 for doing this. We disagree, he owes futureman the chance to reverse the trade and get his stuff back or compensation ($15 is reasonable for N64 Zelda). ]
Response from Accused "Bad Trader": (5-Sep-2007)
The trade that was agreed upon DID NOT INCLUDE THE CASE? This trader DID NOT READ THE TRADE carefully. besides, everyone knows that you can purchase DVD cases for like $.50. If this person needs a case for the DVD, they can buy one. I even offered to send them the $.50 for one. The link that I sent him was $10 FOR 25 CASES. Again, THEY DIDN'T READ CAREFULLY. I think this is ridiculous to file a BTR over a $.50 DVD case, THAT WAS NEVER AGREED TO IN THE TRADE TO BEGIN W/.

I sincerely hope that the moderators will revoke this BTR, since it states that I didn't send something that was NEVER AGREED UPON IN THE TRADE. The fact that we allow BTR's to be filed over such trivial things as $.50 DVD cases is something that should be reconsidered.

squirtanen BTRs30-Aug-2007
Status: active
Email: squirt1330@msn.com
Address: 10 Kangas Rd. Esko,MN 55733
Reporter: hockeyman17

On July 17th, Zach and I agreed to a deal in which I sold him 4 PSP UMD movies for $12 via money order. I sent first since at the time he had more feedback and no BTRs. I shipped via USPS First Class mail and it was delivered on July 21st (USPS confirmation #9101 1288 8230 0957 2016 41). It's been over a month and a half and he has not sent payment yet. He continues to make excuses and has already had another user file a BTR against him. The latest message he sent me read, "srry for not sending by wednesday i couldnt u prob have a gay life and do nuthing i have a life and couldnt get to the post office today i cant either i might be able to send friday." He is a bad trader and I still have not received payment for my items.

squirtanen BTRs27-Aug-2007
Status: active
Email: squirt1330@msn.com
Address: 10 Kangas Rd. Esko,MN 55733
Reporter: themainsoybean

i sent my guitar hero 2 w controllerwith 40.00 over a month ago and he received it but then he said after he received that the game wouldnt work right which i dont beleive because i played it two nights before i sent it but in spite of that we agreed that he didnt have to send his side of the deal but he would have to send me my game backand the money he asked if he could keep 20.00 outta my 40.00 to shippe it back which i acceptted it has been three weeks barely heard two words from him needless to say i am a little po rite now ... TRADERS BEWARE



it has been a few weeks since he claimed he would shipp my game back to me and yet still no package i am extremely upset this trader is not only a bad trader. but i suspect a con artist
Response from Accused "Bad Trader": (28-Aug-2007)
srry u didnt play that game really well then cause it freezes completely after ure 2 levels in to it and im srry for not sending i will get it in the mail by this week