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Topic   Baldur’s Gate III

Bleed_DukeBlue
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* 4-Aug-2023(#1)
Anyone else playing this? It’s still early, but I’m already pretty sure this will not only be my game of the year but also one of my favorite games of all time. Larian impressed me a lot with Divinity: Original Sin, but this is just a masterpiece so far. Also, it has cross save, so you can play on PC and then move up to five saves over to PS5 via the cloud when that version comes out (although you have to buy both versions to do that).
Feeb
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* 14-Nov-2023(#121)
Of course not. FF is washed up niche franchise- truth be told- And XV was possibly the worst received of all of them. It’s still not apples to apples making this comparison. People don’t understand that FF and jrpgs in general - are niche.
justin_credible
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* 14-Nov-2023(#122)
1 Pokémon 1996 440,000,000 [1]
2 Final Fantasy 1987 180,000,000 [2]
3 Monster Hunter 2004 92,000,000 [3]
4 Soulsborne 2009 91,628,551 [4]
5 Dragon Quest 1986 88,000,000 [2]
6 Borderlands 2009 72,000,000 [5]
7 The Witcher 2007 65,000,000 [6]
8 The Elder Scrolls 1994 58,623,000 [7]
9 Lineage 1998 43,000,000
10 Fallout 1997 38,000,000

180 million sales for Final Fantasy all time, that's for any rpg series in any region. Second most behind Pokemon. That is anything but niche. But I do agree they're washed up because they're trying to pander to non-rpg gamers to sell more copies. They've been doing so since 13.

Feeb
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* 14-Nov-2023(#123)
That’s the whole series. The games as a single entry do not generally perform that well compared to the industry best. And take FF VII out of there it would look pretty different I bet. Jrpgs as a whole are definitely niche. It’s still not likely to make sales like this these days if you’re not on pc.

Pokémon is a different beast. As is any Nintendo nut cult product. Compare these to games like AC, GTA, Etc.
justin_credible
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* 14-Nov-2023(#124)
Yes my point was originally about the series as a whole and how it's gone stale because they aren't making the games like they were back in the day when they were selling gangbusters. You might can say jrpgs as a whole are niche but Final Fantasy is NOT niche. Nothing niche can be sold 180 MILLION times. I don't care how long the time period is again 2nd most sales all time for an rpg series of any region.

niche denoting products, services, or interests that appeal to a small, specialized section of the population.

Final Fantasy is one of the few rpgs that has mass appeal, but they're losing it due to making bad games that don't appeal to rpg gamers, that was my point.

I'll let you reply and I won't bother reading it because obviously you just want to disagree even if I say the sky is blue, and this is getting off topic from BG3.

Feeb
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* 14-Nov-2023(#125)
Yes- that is exactly what niche means. Even the best of all jrpgs in the west is niche. FF, DQ, Persona- it’s a simple fact. I think you’re correct about the direction of FF-especially XVI- even the creators say it is not an RPG- because- they want it to sell better than RPGs they know the west wouldn’t buy it like other genres. It’s not a turn based thing / strategy thing. They’ve thrown everything they have at the west - TO, FFT, remakes, FM etc. low sales.

BG 3 sold like hot cakes because it is a WRPG / CRPG and major pc release. Comparing it to a single plat release JRPG it should crush it. MOSTLY because it’s install base is pc- Back on topic.
MrBean
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16-Nov-2023(#126)
Pre-order deluxe edition

https://box.baldursgate3.game/
Kommie
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* 16-Nov-2023(#127)
MrBean wrote:
> Pre-order deluxe edition
>

Has Euro pricing, bound to be more expensive. I'm sure a US version is coming
Kommie
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16-Nov-2023(#128)
Oof, $20 shipping with the US version
Kommie
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16-Nov-2023(#129)
Three discs...
Feeb
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* 16-Nov-2023(#130)
The physical stuff seems to be just a map and box, discs, soundtrack, poster. Was hoping for some more books or art.
MrBean
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16-Nov-2023(#131)
Archer
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16-Nov-2023(#132)
I only ever bought special editions for the statues/figures. This one seems like a hard pass. Also noticed it wont be shipping until Q1 2024. So anyone who has held out for a physical version to play the game has to wait another 2-4 months.
Feeb
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16-Nov-2023(#133)
Silver lining is larian stuff is usually rare and an easy flip if you don’t want it. This may be the one they decide to mass produce.
Heavyd814life
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16-Nov-2023(#134)
$100 after shipping is wild. I’ll just stick with the JP version I ordered from Play-Asia.

thenadz
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* 16-Nov-2023(#135)
I want to get the JP version from Playasia but don’t like when games are censored in other regions. Debating grabbing the EU copy or holding off for a NTSC physical release (if that’s even within the realm of possibility)
Archer
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16-Nov-2023(#136)
thenadz wrote:
> I want to get the JP version from Playasia but don’t like when games are censored
> in other regions. Debating grabbing the EU copy or holding off for a NTSC physical
> release (if that’s even within the realm of possibility)

They will be shipping NTSC copies to American regain orders via the US shop. But as they are a European based company, all the art work on their site shows PAL versions. There are images floating around with ESRB ratings on them as well. However, the version of the disc doesn't matter anymore. Your console will play any region.
Bleed_DukeBlue
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16-Nov-2023(#137)
Thanks for the heads up. I went ahead and cancelled my Play Asia order and got this instead.

MrBean wrote:
> Pre-order deluxe edition
>
Sun
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16-Nov-2023(#138)
I'll just wait until a regular US physical release.
Archer
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16-Nov-2023(#139)
I thought I was going to go into this second evil durge run and speed through just to see the different/evil stuff. But uh, that didn't happen. I'm taking my sweet time, playing like its the first. Over 30+ hours and still in act 1 still. Doing everything again. The game is just that good. It also helps that there is so much, and so many different ways things can go. And an astounding amount of dialogue variations all based on how you are approaching things.
Archer
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* 17-Nov-2023(#140)
Larian can just not win with these patches and hotfixes lately. They put out hotfix #11 today. And its apparently broken the PC Steam deck version just as bad as Patch #4 broke the PS5 version. And some people are saying the PS5 version is now just as broken in Act 2 like it is in Act 3. But some people are saying Act 3 is fixed for them on PS5. I haven't tested yet on my end. Hoping its fixed. And that Act 2 isn't borked, because I'll be there soon on my new playthrough.
Feeb
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17-Nov-2023(#141)
I just ended act 2 on my durge tactician run. It was fine last night.
Archer
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17-Nov-2023(#142)
Feeb wrote:
> It was fine last night.

The hotfix that 'supposedly' broke it released a few hours ago...

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Heavyd814life
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17-Nov-2023(#143)
Looks like the update didn’t affect act 1. I’ve been playing for a couple of hours now and all good here thankfully. This durge run is something else. The dialogue options are wild! Got to the first real thing that happens on this route and it was a hard nope for me. Thankfully there’s a workaround. Also the Warlock build is kinda meh in this game. It seems to be Eldritch Blast and not much else. I think I’ll have to multiclass with Sorcerer to get more options.

Feeb
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17-Nov-2023(#144)
Uh oh. Just in time to crush my game and make me step away for another month.
Feeb
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* 17-Nov-2023(#145)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> Looks like the update didn’t affect act 1. I’ve been playing for a couple of
> hours now and all good here thankfully. This durge run is something else. The dialogue
> options are wild! Got to the first real thing that happens on this route and it was
> a hard nope for me. Thankfully there’s a workaround. Also the Warlock build is
> kinda meh in this game. It seems to be Eldritch Blast and not much else. I think
> I’ll have to multiclass with Sorcerer to get more options.
>
>

Lock takes a few levels to be worthwhile.maybe 3? And definitely I need another class for most of the core offense- but the EBARB / blast with repelling and hunger of hadar is very nasty CC.
Archer
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17-Nov-2023(#146)
Yeah I found warlock to be underwhelming as well. Like Feeb said it takes a few levels for it to get somewhat decent. But even then it still underwhelming. It really needs to be paired with fighter for a few levels to get better melee. And you need to also dip into sorc or wizard to get better spells. So it ends up needing too many class splits and its just not worth it. Its why I found Wyll so underwhelming. And in my first playthrough stopped using him until the party was higher level so I could spec him properly.

I went arcane archer this time, which is not a real class in this game, so its cobbled together. 3 levels of sorc and about to be 4 levels of ranger (gloomstalker). And its amazing. I have 3 attacks on the opening round without haste or bloodlust. I have powerful bow shots. And even more powerful shots with the special arrows. And decent spells for attack, buffs and cc. Its so strong I could probably solo with this setup on this tactician run. It just takes most of the first act to fully come together. But starting as the ranger was surprisingly really good too. Normally in DnD video games rangers are not this strong.
Feeb
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17-Nov-2023(#147)
You gotta get that 3 rogue / thief dip for the actions too.
Archer
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17-Nov-2023(#148)
That extra bonus action is super nice. Especially on a monk who has a bonus action for a double attack. Having two of those is just.. *chefs kiss*
Feeb
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17-Nov-2023(#149)
I’ve also been enjoying the one level light cleric reaction warding flare. Pretty nasty for a one dipper.
sinnie
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17-Nov-2023(#150)
UV printer came in at work. The first thing we printed was Astarion, lol

Sorry for the glare, but people checking out with their groceries should see it.

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Archer
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17-Nov-2023(#151)
Act 2 seems fine to me so far. A few instances of potato graphics, but that has been the case for me the whole time. Where the late texture pop-in never occurs so the persons face looks really fudgeed up like their skin melted off. Seems to happen to random npcs. I tried to load my Act 3 character, but every time I do the game crashes. So that sucks. I assume the saves are corrupted somehow.
Feeb
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18-Nov-2023(#152)
Act 2 boss on tactician was quite a bit more challenging. First really hard encounter yet.
Archer
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18-Nov-2023(#153)
Feeb wrote:
> Act 2 boss on tactician was quite a bit more challenging. First really hard encounter
> yet.


I'm assuming it was probably harder than it needed to be because you didn't free Nightsong, and handed her over to him? If you do that she doesn't help you in the fight. If you set her free she helps you fight him. And does way more damage to him than anyone in your party could.

Frank
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18-Nov-2023(#154)
Debating on picking up the $50 Japanese physical version. The only thing holding me back is Japan's censorship in games. I would much prefer to play the unedited version.

The other option is the physical deluxe edition, but that's $30 more. raspberry

Feeb
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* 18-Nov-2023(#155)
Archer wrote:
> Feeb wrote:
>> Act 2 boss on tactician was quite a bit more challenging. First really hard encounter
>> yet.
>
> ...


I freed her. Her damage is negligible and she has very low HP. He one / 2 shots her and the debuff constantly covers her so she’s basically a constant corpse and at best a few hit sponge. She’s actually a liability if the mindflayer dominates her first turn- that’s a restart. I actually got the achievement because you almost have to to beat him. You have to basically plan for phase two before it starts and position to snipe the hatching dudes- they give him back 40-50 / pop etc. it’s a lot a first but manageable with good range.

Archer
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* 18-Nov-2023(#156)
Feeb wrote:
> Archer wrote:
>> Feeb wrote:
> |>> Act 2 boss on tactician was quite a bit more challenging. First really hard encounter
> |>> yet.
>>
>> ...
>
> ...


EDIT: wait, did you send someone over to her to free her from the debuff zone? You need to send someone over to "help" her, and then she flys directly to him.

Sounds like she gets a big nerf in tactician then. In normal she hits him for like 60 damage per shot. And has something like 125 health. So knowing this will change my plan on this playthrough. I might barelmancy it, lol.

Feeb
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* 18-Nov-2023(#157)
Yeah. She hits for 10 max and usually 2. I sent a single toon over there just to get the flayer off my party. His conal hits for 40-60 each toon. Nasty. The debuff zone is most of the center plat where phase 2 spawns. Almost have to stay off of that platform altogether
Feeb
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19-Nov-2023(#158)
Act 3 is a buggy mess. Just got a spell rot curse bugged on my team. Nice.
Archer
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19-Nov-2023(#159)
I'm not looking forward to getting back to act 3. Hoping they send out a patch to fix it soon.
Kommie
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20-Nov-2023(#160)
Playstation added a Baldur's Gate 3 trial. Good thing I find character creators a waste of time. Only 2 hours though
sinnie
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* 20-Nov-2023(#161)
The character creator isn't even that vast though. Fallout 4/Skyrim had more detailed ones. Doesn't take much time at all to make a nice character. I might be a weirdo who blasts through it though, lol. It is a bit annoying that I can choose my genitals but not my boob size.

Topic   Baldur’s Gate III