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Topic   Nintendo discussion

citizen_zane
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20-Oct-2016(#1)
This topic had many older posts which were moved here:

https://gametz.com/VideoGame_Discussion/nintendo-d...


Originally created to share Nintendo friend codes and talk about the Nintendo Switch, this topic has now been broadened to the discussion of all things Nintendo. I'm still keeping the list updated here, so if you want to be added or make any changes, please PM me and I'll adjust the list.



Updated 10/27/21

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Otaku100
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30-Oct-2023(#161)
3D World is one of my favorite Mario games. I know it isn't very creative, but I also highly enjoyed NSMBU, and thought it was quite a bit better than any of the other NSMB games.
benstylus
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30-Oct-2023(#162)
Galaxy is still the best Mario game, 2D or 3D.

I think Wonder does a great job of capturing some of that creativity with the one-off stuff they do with the wonder flowers, but I think there's still a lot of the same old 2D Mario tropes filling in between those.

Though you can't play as Daisy in Galaxy... maybe she needs her own game. I would buy Super Daisy Galaxy

Scott
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30-Oct-2023(#163)
I still hope we get Galaxy 3.
KCPenguins
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* 30-Oct-2023(#164)
Who was mister list man, theJaw? Should ask people to post their lists (or tiers) for mainline Mario. Tiers makes the most sense imo, and use whatever criteria you want (favorite, best, historic, nostalgia, etc). (Copied the list from a website, not sure why there are two dates for 3 and World. I don't think they were released that far apart in Japan/USA.)

Super Mario Bros. (1985)
Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels (1986)
Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA, 1988)
Super Mario Land (1989)
Super Mario Bros. 3 (1988, 1990)
Super Mario World (1990, 1991)
Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins (1992)
Super Mario 64 (1996)
Super Mario Sunshine (2002)
New Super Mario Bros. (2006)
Super Mario Galaxy (2007)
New Super Mario Bros. Wii (2009)
Super Mario Galaxy 2 (2010)
Super Mario 3D Land (2011)
New Super Mario Bros. 2 (2012)
New Super Mario Bros. U (2012)
Super Mario 3D World (2013)
Super Mario Odyssey (2017)
Bowser's Fury (2021)
Super Mario Bros. Wonder (2023)
KCPenguins
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* 30-Oct-2023(#165)
My Tiers:



The Top of the Flagpole
(This is Mario to me)
Super Mario Bros. (1985)
Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA, 1988)
Super Mario Bros. 3 (1988, 1990)
Super Mario World (1990, 1991)
Super Mario Galaxy (2007)
Super Mario Galaxy 2 (2010)
New Super Mario Bros. U (2012)
Super Mario 3D World (2013)

The 1-Ups
(Borderline Flagpole)
Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins (1992)
Bowser's Fury (2021)

The Fire Flowers
(Enjoyable)
Super Mario Sunshine (2002)
New Super Mario Bros. Wii (2009)
Super Mario Bros. Wonder (2023)

The Super Mushrooms
(Solid entry, but not my cup of tea)
New Super Mario Bros. (2006)
Super Mario Odyssey (2017)

A Coin
(Meh)
Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels (1986)
Super Mario 64 (1996)
New Super Mario Bros. 2 (2012)

That First Goomba
(Stubs a Toe)
Super Mario 3D Land (2011)

The Poison Mushroom
(Says it all)
Super Mario Land (1989)

PizzaTheHutt
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30-Oct-2023(#166)
Super Mario 3D Land was so good. I didn't like Super Mario 3D World as much. I still enjoyed it and I'm not saying it was a bad game at all, but for a while it was my least favorite 3D Mario (that is until they released Super Mario 3D All-stars and I revisited SM64 and Sunshine and saw how poorly they aged).

I think what disappointed me was the emphasis on co-op and in 2013 they still didn't think there should have been an option for it to be online. I'm a huge fan of co-op games, but the people I enjoy playing them with the most are all over the world, making local co-op play impossible.
In addition to that, nothing really felt like the game was designed for co-op, and by that I mean every collectible could be reached in single player, you never needed anyone else's help to get them, nor were there any secret levels that could only be accessed in co-op. Like the NSMB games it was built first as a standard single player Mario title, co-op was just an option to make things more hectic. I'm fine with that, but I feel Sackboy did co-op better.

I still have not completed Champions Road and I need to do that one of these days. Maybe I'll make that one of my gaming goals of 2024. I've spent many hours on difficult levels in Super Mario Maker, sometimes over an hour on each level failing and failing and failing some more, because I was determined not to give up until I complete them, I don't know why I never felt the same desire to complete this one level, but I need to finally do it.
Scott
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* 30-Oct-2023(#167)
I prefer to split mine up between 2D and 3D.

Edit: This is mostly based on how much I enjoy them today, not how good they were for their time. Nostalgia definitely factors in though.

2D
Super Mario Bros. 3 (1988, 1990)
Super Mario World (1990, 1991)
Super Mario Bros. Wonder (2023)
New Super Mario Bros. U (2012)
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New Super Mario Bros. Wii (2009)
New Super Mario Bros. 2 (2012)
New Super Mario Bros. (2006)
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Super Mario Bros. (1985)
Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels (1986)
Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA, 1988)
Super Mario Land (1989)
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Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins (1992)

I'm very tempted to put Wonder first. But, I don't think that would be fair, since I haven't even completed the game yet. All 4 games in the top tier are very close, as are the 3 in the middle tier. I enjoy all of the games in the 3rd tier, but each has a major shortcoming that holds it back (SMB1 and SMB:LL have awful controls, SML is too short, and SMB2 just has an oddness to it that I don't quite like). I'm not much of a fan of 6 Golden Coins at all. I know people will hate me for that, but I just don't like the style of that game.

3D
Super Mario 3D World (2013)
Super Mario Odyssey (2017)
Super Mario Galaxy (2007)
Super Mario Galaxy 2 (2010)
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Super Mario 64 (1996)
Super Mario 3D Land (2011)
Bowser's Fury (2021)
---
Super Mario Sunshine (2002)

All 4 games in my top tier are EXTREMELY close. I could honestly see ranking any one of them as my #1. I tend to put 3D World and Odyssey at the top, and a lot of that is due to the huge amount of nostalgia I have from playing them with my kids when they were little. Bowser's Fury could be higher, but it's too short. I've tried Sunshine two different times in my life and have not been able to get into it. I plan to give it one more chance, on the Switch. I hope to at least be able to finish it this time, but I doubt it's going to improve enough that I rank it higher than any of the other 3D games.
KCPenguins
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30-Oct-2023(#168)
I understand opinions, but I'm curious why Super Mario Land (1989) over Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins (1992)?
benstylus
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30-Oct-2023(#169)
KCPenguins wrote:
> I understand opinions, but I'm curious why Super Mario Land (1989) over Super Mario
> Land 2: 6 Golden Coins (1992)?

OH! DAISY!

BloodPuppetX
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30-Oct-2023(#170)
Mario Tier
SMB 3
SMB 1
Super Mario World
Super Mario Wonder
Super Mario 3D World & Land
Odyssey

Luigi Tier
SMB 2
Galaxy
NSMB 1 & Wii
Mario Land 2

Peach Tier
SM64
Sunshine
NSMB2
Lost Levels

Waluigi Tier
Mario Land 1 (It's ok but very short)

I haven't played NSMB U (or Luigi U) enough to rate it. Still haven't played Galaxy 2 at all.
bonham2
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* 30-Oct-2023(#171)
I like this. My list is very similar to KCPenguins' list.

Cape Tier
SMB 1
SMB 3
Super Mario World
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Super Mario 3D World
New Super Mario Bros U & Luigi U
Super Mario Odyssey

Tanooki Tier
Bowser's Fury
Super Mario Sunshine
NSMB Wii
Super Mario 3D Land

Helicopter Hat Tier
SMB2
Mario 64
NSMB
Super Mario Wonder (maybe this moves up by the time I'm done, but I'm very unimpressed as of now)
Super Mario Land 2

Frog Suit on a Non-Water Level Tier
NSMB2
Super Mario Land
SMB The Lost Levels
theJaw
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30-Oct-2023(#172)
Think this is mine. It could all change except for my #1.

Super Mario World (1990, 1991)
Super Mario Bros. 3 (1988, 1990)
Super Mario Sunshine (2002)
Super Mario Galaxy (2007)
Super Mario Bros. Wonder (2023)
Super Mario 64 (1996)
Super Mario Galaxy 2 (2010)
Super Mario Bros. (1985)
Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA, 1988)
Super Mario Odyssey (2017)
Super Mario 3D World (2013)
Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins (1992)
Bowser's Fury (2021)
Super Mario 3D Land (2011)
New Super Mario Bros. U (2012)
Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels (1986)
Super Mario Land (1989)
New Super Mario Bros. (2006)
New Super Mario Bros. Wii (2009)
New Super Mario Bros. 2 (2012)
BloodPuppetX
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30-Oct-2023(#173)
Castlevania Legends added to NSO:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=curf8onLZ7I&ab_chann...

Neat, I've never played that one.
Shane12m
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30-Oct-2023(#174)
ErickRPG wrote:
> I like SM3DL better, but that's because at that time, the 3D effect was so impressive
> and well done. Looking back at it, it still has incredible level design and fun
> quick levels. 3D world was a step down IMO.
>
>

Yes! Idk if it was the coolness of the 3d effect but 3d land was such an amazing game. Top 3 Mario game for me for sure
ErickRPG
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31-Oct-2023(#175)
Shane12m wrote:
> ErickRPG wrote:
>> I like SM3DL better, but that's because at that time, the 3D effect was so impressive
>> and well done. Looking back at it, it still has incredible level design and fun
>> quick levels. 3D world was a step down IMO.
>>
>>
>
> Yes! Idk if it was the coolness of the 3d effect but 3d land was such an amazing
> game. Top 3 Mario game for me for sure

The game was designed for 3D. And when Nintendo designs something specifically for some gimmick, their magic shines. I felt like I was looking into a tiny little 3D soapbox. Those water levels especially. The 3D is super important for that game especially. It still works as a great mario game without it. But the 3D effect brings it to masterpiece level, IMO. Deifnitely a reason to not just emulate the game, you need a 3DS to experience it.

benstylus
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31-Oct-2023(#176)
ErickRPG wrote:
> Shane12m wrote:
>> ErickRPG wrote:
> |>> I like SM3DL better, but that's because at that time, the 3D effect was so impressive
> |>> and well done. Looking back at it, it still has incredible level design and
> fun
> |>> quick levels. 3D world was a step down IMO.
> |>>
> |>>
>>
>> Yes! Idk if it was the coolness of the 3d effect but 3d land was such an amazing
>> game. Top 3 Mario game for me for sure
>
> The game was designed for 3D. And when Nintendo designs something specifically for
> some gimmick, their magic shines. I felt like I was looking into a tiny little 3D
> soapbox. Those water levels especially. The 3D is super important for that game
> especially. It still works as a great mario game without it. But the 3D effect
> brings it to masterpiece level, IMO. Deifnitely a reason to not just emulate the
> game, you need a 3DS to experience it.


I felt the little trick rooms were stupid in 3d land.
The ones where the camera angle was set so that if you were using 3D, you could see thst a platform was out front correctly, but if you were in 2d mode it blended in with the platforms in the background. Like Nintendo going SEE? SEE? THIS INCREDIBLE GAMEPLAY POSSIBLE ON ONE OF THOSE CRAPTY 2D SYSTEMS!

Except those rooms weren't incredible gameplay, they were little gotcha gimmicks for Nintendo to pat themselves on the back about how clever they were.

That to me was the epitome of the 3D experience on 3DS. Little "that was kind of a neat effect" moments followed immediately by turning the 3D slider off again because the games played better without it.

There's a reason so many late games simply left the 3D aspect out entirely. 99% of the time it didn't really affect gameplay, and of the few times it did, it almost always felt like a cheap gimmick.

For the record, I like 3D land a lot. Just not the 3D gimmick.

ErickRPG
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1-Nov-2023(#177)
the reason late games were not 3D is laziness. Whatever I'm not gonna agree with your take. I absolutely love 3D.

benstylus
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* 1-Nov-2023(#178)
ErickRPG wrote:
> the reason late games were not 3D is laziness. Whatever I'm not gonna agree with
> your take. I absolutely love 3D.

You can call it laziness. I will call it developers realizing 3D was not really a selling point for the vast majority of 3DS owners. Why put the effort into something nobody cares about?

Even Nintendo stopped using it on a number of their releases.

Scott
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1-Nov-2023(#179)
KCPenguins wrote:
> I understand opinions, but I'm curious why Super Mario Land (1989) over Super Mario
> Land 2: 6 Golden Coins (1992)?

I actually like SML quite a bit, and it would be rated higher if it weren't so short. The reason I like it is because it takes place away from the mushroom kingdom and features unique enemies and landscapes. This is something they need to explore much more in the 2D games. Wonder takes places in a new kingdom, and does have new enemies, but let's face it, it still looks like the mushroom kingdom.

As for SML2, idk, I just don't like it. I don't like the graphics, but mainly, I don't like the non-linear level design.

Scott
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1-Nov-2023(#180)
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass Wave 6 trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-kASUEEXn8

Looks pretty solid. I'm super bummed that after 6 waves, they still haven't added N64 Wario Stadium. It's the only MK64 track that hasn't been remade in a newer MK game.
KCPenguins
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1-Nov-2023(#181)
Scott wrote:
> Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass Wave 6 trailer:
>
>
> Looks pretty solid. I'm super bummed that after 6 waves, they still haven't added
> N64 Wario Stadium. It's the only MK64 track that hasn't been remade in a newer MK
> game.


Available 11/9



Wii Daisy Circuit was previously announced in a Nintendo Direct. On top of that, the latest wave includes Wii Rainbow Road, Tour Madrid Drive, GCK DK Mountain, Piranha Plant Cove, SNES Bowser Castle 3, Tour Rome Avanti, and 3DS Rosalina’s Ice World. Also don’t forget that Funky Kong from Mario Kart Wii plus Pauline and Peachette



Excited for the tracks in bold.
Anxiouz
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2-Nov-2023(#182)
Hard to believe that we're still talking about a nearly-10 year old game. It's cool to see this kind of support for so long but at least for me personally I've had my fill and have been ready for MK9 and something fresh for a few years now.
PizzaTheHutt
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2-Nov-2023(#183)
Anxiouz wrote:
> Hard to believe that we're still talking about a nearly-10 year old game. It's cool
> to see this kind of support for so long but at least for me personally I've had my
> fill and have been ready for MK9 and something fresh for a few years now.


Absolutely. I was originally on the "this DLC makes more sense than a new game because the game has already sold so many copies" side, and then I went ahead and paid for the Booster Course Pass on day one but really I have barely played it since the first batch of tracks dropped. I feel like it's a fresh coat of paint to cover up the "we've been playing this game for so long now, how about something new?" and maybe once the final tracks drop I'll play it more, but I'm really ready for a new entry in the series with some new mechanics to change things up.

For years I've been hoping they'd do a "Mario Kart Ultimate" type thing like they did with Super Smash Bros., with all characters and tracks from the series' history. This is probably the closest we'll get to it now.
PizzaTheHutt
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2-Nov-2023(#184)
Alien Hominid has a sequel that just released yesterday, and alongside it they remastered the original game too. The original game already looked good in SD on GameCube and the little GBA screen, I'm sure it looks great now. They bundled them together for $25 (it would be $32 to buy them separately) and since the sequel has online co-op for up to 4 players I kinda wanna check it out. No reviews on Metacritic yet though.
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/alien-h...
BloodPuppetX
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6-Nov-2023(#185)
Smash Bros OLED and Super Mario Party joy con bundle available soon:

https://www.nintendo.com/us/retail-offers/
MrBean
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6-Nov-2023(#186)
BloodPuppetX wrote:
> Smash Bros OLED and Super Mario Party joy con bundle available soon:
>

Nintendo is just so lazy with their special editions. If they just went back to the N64 translucent days, they'd move so many consoles.
BloodPuppetX
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6-Nov-2023(#187)
True. They could have done something with the Smash Bros dock, like they did previously.
SwiftJAB
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6-Nov-2023(#188)
I wonder why they went with blue and red in the Super Mario Party bundle. It was originally released with green and yellow. Are they just not selling as many systems with blue and red bundled?

PizzaTheHutt
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6-Nov-2023(#189)
Why would they do Super Mario Party and not Mario Party Superstars?

PizzaTheHutt
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6-Nov-2023(#190)
I was browsing the eShop and came across this game called Air Twister that reminded me of Space Harrier, one of my childhood favorites. Turns out it is from Yu Suzuki and is kind of a spiritual successor to that, and now I might have to check it out. It releases on Friday. Not sure I want to drop $25 on it, but I've spent much more on worse games.

https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/air-twi...
BloodPuppetX
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6-Nov-2023(#191)
I played that on Apple Arcade. Can't remember how far I went in it. ININ has a physical for $30, so I might get that eventually.
Anxiouz
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* 6-Nov-2023(#192)
If it's fun I'm interested, but man it looks really, really rough. This is one of their highlighted screenshots on their site...what is even happening with these reflections?

image
PizzaTheHutt
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6-Nov-2023(#193)
I watched a review. The soundtrack is all progrock which is kinda weird. But I still wanna play it. I've put it in my Steam wishlist and will wait for a sale or see if it eventually ends up in a Humble Bundle.

Groo
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6-Nov-2023(#194)
PizzaTheHutt wrote:
> Why would they do Super Mario Party and not Mario Party Superstars?
>
>

It should be Superstars, helps that is online too.

Groo
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6-Nov-2023(#195)
SwiftJAB wrote:
> I wonder why they went with blue and red in the Super Mario Party bundle. It was
> originally released with green and yellow. Are they just not selling as many systems
> with blue and red bundled?
>
>

Well it isnt the Neon Blue/Red. More the Mario Red and Blue from the Yellow/Blue Bundle.

Groo
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6-Nov-2023(#196)
BloodPuppetX wrote:
> True. They could have done something with the Smash Bros dock, like they did previously.

Think they went cheap on the dock cause it comes with the game and 3 months. Still at normal MSRP OLED model. Been better if it didnt come with the 3 months and came with the full game + all the DLC

BloodPuppetX
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7-Nov-2023(#197)
Live action Zelda movie in development:

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/corporate/release/en/20...
theJaw
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7-Nov-2023(#198)
BloodPuppetX wrote:
> Live action Zelda movie in development:
>
>

Avi Arad does not inspire hope. Save for a few bangers under his belt, the dude is responsible for some truly awful crap. The Sony Spider-man villain spin off movies, for example.
Kommie
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7-Nov-2023(#199)
To be fair all the Sony Spider Man movies are bad too
KCPenguins
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7-Nov-2023(#200)
BloodPuppetX wrote:
> Live action Zelda movie in development:
>
>


As Jaw said, this does not sound promising. After the Mario movie, they should've just gone back to Illumination and said "What's next?".
SwiftJAB
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7-Nov-2023(#201)
KCPenguins wrote:
> BloodPuppetX wrote:
>> Live action Zelda movie in development:
>>
>>
>
>
> As Jaw said, this does not sound promising. After the Mario movie, they should've
> just gone back to Illumination and said "What's next?".

Seriously. Live action is not the way to go here.

Topic   Nintendo discussion