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Topic   OP Updated (4/26/2023) 2023 GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League

Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
* 4-Jan-2023(#1)
The 2023 GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League

1. HybridCRoW Current Total: 714


Top 10:
1. A Space for the Unbound - 85
2. Atomic Heart - 72
3. Dead Space - 89
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
5. Forspoken - 66
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82
8. Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened - 76
9. Story of Seasons: A Wonderful Life
10. Wild Hearts - 79

Alternates:
1. One Piece Odyssey - 74
2. SpongeBob SquarePants: The Cosmic Shake - 70


2. Archer Current Total: 568


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 72
2. Dead Island 2 - 75
3. Dead Space - 89
4. Diablo IV
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
8. Starfield
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy XVI
2. Oxenfree II: Lost Signals


3. Roko Current Total: 499


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 82
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Rise of the Ronin
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
8. Starfield
9. Tekken 8
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Pikmin 4
2. Street Fighter 6


4. SilverOwl Current Total: 490


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 72
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Forspoken - 66
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl
9. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
10. Starfield

Alternates:
1. Dead Island 2 - 75
2. Street Fighter 6


5. Best1989 Current Total: 436


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Pikmin 4
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Assassin's Creed Mirage
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82


6. Ryan Current Total: 431


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Forza Motorsport
3. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
4. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Redfall
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Street Fighter 6
2. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81


7. Heavyd814life Current Total: 430


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Final Fantasy XVI
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
5. Forza Motorsport
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Street Fighter 6
9. The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
2. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81


8. PizzaTheHutt Current Total: 429


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
5. Kerbal Space Program 2
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Street Fighter 6
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Alan Wake II
2. Skull and Bones


9. TalonJedi87 Current Total: 422


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 72
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
2. Starfield


10. Bleed_DukeBlue Current Total: 419


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 82
2. Baldur's Gate 3
3. Diablo IV
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
6. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82


11. Sailorneorune Current Total: 405


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 82
2. Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon - 80
3. Final Fantasy XVI
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
5. Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe - 80
6. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82
7. Master Detective Archives: Rain Code
8. Street Fighter 6
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
10. The Plucky Squire

Alternates:
1. Sea of Stars
2. WrestleQuest


12. Lunar Current Total: 398


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3
2. Fatal Frame: Mask of the Lunar Eclipse - 69
3. Final Fantasy XVI
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure - 83
8. The Legend of Heroes: Trails Into Reverie
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Dead Island 2 - 75
2. Wild Hearts - 79


13. SwiftJAB Current Total: 392


Top 10:
1. Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp - 82
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
3. Forspoken - 66
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
6. Kerbal Space Program 2
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
2. Dead Space - 89


14. Frank Current Total: 344


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
3. Forza Motorsport
4. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Resident Evil 4 - 93
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
8. Starfield
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
10. Unannounced Mario Movie Tie-In

Alternates:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 82
2. Theatrhythm Final Bar - 88


15. Tonymack21 Current Total: 333


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82
5. Like A Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
7. Pikmin 4
8. Starfield
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp - 82
2. Baldur's Gate 3


16. Bogo Current Total: 328


Top 10:
1. Assassin's Creed Mirage
2. Diablo IV
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
4. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
7. Metroid Prime 4
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
10. The Wolf Among Us 2

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
2. Starfield


17. BloodPuppetX Current Total: 322


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II
2. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 82
3. Dead Island 2 - 75
4. Diablo IV
5. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
6. Final Fantasy XVI
7. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Street Fighter 6
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
Alternates:
1. ONI: Road to the Mightiest Oni
2. Process of Elimination - 65


18. Boss Current Total: 266


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV
3. Final Fantasy XVI
4. Lies of P
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Resident Evil 4 - 93
7. Sea of Stars
8. Starfield
9. Street Fighter 6
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Hollow Knight: Silksong
2. Hogwarts Legacy - 84


19. EB Current Total: 263


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
4. Forza Motorsport
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Atomic Heart - 72
2. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86


20. Mattyg00013 Current Total: 263


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
6. Forza Motorsport
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
2. Pikmin 4


21. Incubus421 Current Total: 258


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV
2. Final Fantasy XVI
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Kerbal Space Program 2
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Pikmin 4
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
2. Starfield


22. Scott Current Total: 258


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV
2. Final Fantasy XVI
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
4. Forza Motorsport
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Hollow Knight: Silksong
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
8. Pikmin 4
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Sea of Stars
2. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86


23. Bonham2 Current Total: 254


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV
3. Final Fantasy XVI
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Pikmin 4
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
2. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League


24. Jbjz Current Total: 247


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II
2. Assassin's Creed Mirage
3. Diablo IV
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Hollow Knight: Silksong
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. SpongeBob SquarePants: The Cosmic Shake - 70
10. Street Fighter 6

Alternates:
1. Palworld
2. Paper Ghost Stories: Third Eye Open


25. Cevil Current Total: 235


Top 10:
1. Clive 'N' Wrench - 61
2. Diablo IV
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
6. Mina the Hollower
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Sea of Stars
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Forspoken - 66
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


26. Demonalcohol Current Total: 182


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Death Stranding 2
4. Diablo IV
5. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
6. Hades II
7. Hollow Knight: Silksong
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
2. Pikmin 4


27. 3hitcombo Current Total: 173


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV
2. Hades II
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe - 80
5. Pikmin 4
6. Redfall
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Starfield
9. Street Fighter 6
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Fitness Boxing Fist of the North Star
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


28. SupremeSarna Current Total: 170


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV
2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
3. Final Fantasy XVI
4. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Pikmin 4
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
8. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
10. The Lord of the Rings: Gollum

Alternates:
1. Fire Emblem Engage - 81
2. Street Fighter 6


29. Thatfootballguy Current Total: 170


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3
2. Diablo IV
3. Glitched
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Sea of Stars
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy XVI
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 82


30. Shane12m Current Total: 168


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3
2. Final Fantasy XVI
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Sea of Stars
8. Starfield
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Resident Evil 4 - 93
2. Street Fighter 6


31. Sefjwm Current Total: 165


Top 10:
1. Animal Well
2. Baldur's Gate 3
3. Diablo IV
4. Forza Motorsport
5. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2
7. Sea of Stars
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 86
9. Starfield
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

Alternates:
1. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


32. benstylus Current Total: 0


Top 10:
1. 2D Metroid Remake
2. Legacy of Kain/Soul Reaver Remake
3. New Civilization Game
4. New Hyrule Warriors Game
5. New Lego Game Based on a Comic Book/Graphic Novel IP
6. New Rayman game
7. New Shantae game
8. New Tetris game
9. New Thunder Lotus Game (Creators of Spiritfarer)
10. New Wario game

Alternates:
1. New ARMS Game
2. New EA Sports Racing Game (Not F1 or WRC)


33. Metsfan718 Current Total: 0


Top 10:
1. Call of Duty: Warzone Mobile
2. Crash Team Rumble
3. Disney Illusion Island
4. MrWang And Love
5. Peppa Pig: World Adventures
6. Romancelvania
7. Star Trek: Resurgence
8. T-Rex Dinosaur Game
9. The Last Case of Benedict Fox
10. The Plucky Squire

Alternates:
1. Daydream: Forgotten Sorrow
2. Hollow Knight: Silksong



Upcoming Releases:


April:
Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - April 28

May:
Redfall - May 2
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of a Kingdom - May 12
Star Trek: Resurgence - May 23

June:
Street Fighter 6 - June 2
Diablo IV - June 6
Final Fantasy XVI - June 22
Story of Seasons: A Wonderful Life - June 27

July:
The Legend of Heroes: Trails Into Reverie - July 7
Oxenfree II: Lost Signals - July 12
Pikmin 4 - July 21

August:
Armored Core VI - August 25
Sea of Stars - August 29
Baldur’s Gate 3 - August 31

September:
Starfield - September 6



League Overview:


Welcome to Year 6 of the GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League! This is basically fantasy football with games. Each person picks 10 games and those 10 games make up your "team" for the year. The Metacritic scores for your 10 games are tallied up at the end of the year to determine your total. Highest overall score wins. You also get 2 alternate picks (these should be safe choices) just in case one of your picks gets delayed into 2024. So if you shoot for the moon with a game like Armored Core VI and it gets pushed into 2024, one of your alternates takes its place and you don't end up with 0 points for that game. The goal is to pick games that you think have a very good chance of releasing in 2023. Don't YOLO your way into a bunch of 0s lol.

The Rules:
1. No DLC or Expansions
2. No Ports or Remasters (full remakes are allowed)
3. Alternate picks can only replace games delayed into 2024. They cannot be used to replace games in your top 10 that review poorly.

The Prizes:
1st Place: A $50 Amazon Gift Card
2nd Place: A $20 Amazon Gift Card
3rd Place: A $10 Amazon Gift Card

The Participants:
1. Heavyd814life
2. DemonAlcohol
3. PizzaTheHutt
4. EB
5. TalonJedi87
6. benstylus
7. Sailorneorune
8. Bleed_DukeBlue
9. HybridCRoW
10. Incubus421
11. SwiftJAB
12. Roko
13. Thatfootballguy
14. SilverOwl
15. Shane12m
16. Frank
17. SupremeSarna
18. Cevil
19. BloodPuppetX
20. Sefjwm
21. Ryan
22. Bogo
23. Boss
24. Archer
25. Scott
26. Lunar
27. Tonymack21
28. Mattyg00013
29. Bonham2
30. Metsfan718
31. Best1989
32. 3hitcombo
33. Jbjz


Previous Winners:
2022: Heavyd814life
2021: Ryan
2020: Mattyg00013 and Roko
2019: Heavyd814life
2018: Heavyd814life

Submit Your Picks Here: https://tally.so/r/mKpOyK
Deadline: January 18, 2023 at 11:59pm




Frank
GameTZ Subscriber 800 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) Has Written 11 Reviews Secret Santa
15-Feb-2023(#181)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> OP updated with the score for Theatrhythm Final Bar Line. It's currently at 87 on
> Metacritic from 21 reviews. Did not see this coming at all. Only @frank has it on
> his list and only as an alternate.
>
>
>

That was actually my safe bet backup for the "bold" Mario prediction laughing out loud


Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
16-Feb-2023(#182)
Horizon reviews are coming in. Currently at 79 on metacritic
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
16-Feb-2023(#183)
Reviews for Wild Hearts also coming in. It's currently at 80 on Metacritic. Gonna give it a couple of hours so a few more reviews can come in for both before updating the OP.

Bleed_DukeBlue
Triple Gold Good Trader
16-Feb-2023(#184)
I’m still excited to play it, but that’s a little disappointing. I thought it would be higher.

Shane12m wrote:
> Horizon reviews are coming in. Currently at 79 on metacritic
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
16-Feb-2023(#185)
Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:
> I’m still excited to play it, but that’s a little disappointing. I thought it would
> be higher.
>
> Shane12m wrote:
>> Horizon reviews are coming in. Currently at 79 on metacritic

Yeah I am still excited to play it and it still has some really high praise for it.
sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
16-Feb-2023(#186)
Shane12m wrote:
> Horizon reviews are coming in. Currently at 79 on metacritic

RIP my list xD
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 16-Feb-2023(#187)
2 more games on my list are due out next week:

Like a Dragon: Ishin
Atomic Heart

I’m predicting Like a Dragon to be low 80s. Atomic Heart is the wild card one. No idea how that’s gonna go but I’m hoping for low 80s as well.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
16-Feb-2023(#188)
sefjwm wrote:
> Shane12m wrote:
>> Horizon reviews are coming in. Currently at 79 on metacritic
>
> RIP my list xD
>

Nah, you're good. 79 isn't a death sentence at all. I had F1 2022 on my list last year (also a 79) and won and the year before that, @Ryan had two games in the 70s and won.

Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
16-Feb-2023(#189)
TalonJedi87 wrote:
> 2 more games on my list are due out next week:
>
> Like a Dragon: Ishin
> Atomic Heart
>
> I’m predicting Like a Dragon to be low 80s. Atomic Heart is the wild card one. No
> idea how that’s gonna go but I’m hoping for low 80s as well.

Atomic Heart looks rad! I hadn't even heard of it until I saw it on a few lists here. It looks like a cross between BioShock and Wolfenstein and could definitely be in the 80s.

benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
* 16-Feb-2023(#190)
I think nearly every game except Zelda will struggle this year. Last year was super strong at the top with Elden Ring, Ragnarok, and Gran Turismo 7, all of which have been anticipated for years.

This year's games seem to be a lot more likely tk be mid to low-80 material.

I guess that means people with a few more esoteric picks still have a decent chance to compete with those who went full mainstream.

Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
16-Feb-2023(#191)
benstylus wrote:
> I think nearly every game except Zelda will struggle this year. Last year was super
> strong at the top with Elden Ring, Ragnarok, and Gran Turismo 7, all of which have
> been anticipated for years.
>
> This year's games seem to be a lot more likely tk be mid to low-80 material.
>
> I guess that means people with a few more esoteric picks still have a decent chance
> to compete with those who went full mainstream.
>
>

That's fair, but I think there's more depth this year. More games with a chance to be in the mid-80s. But the potential to join Zelda in the 90s is there for games like RE4, Diablo 4, Spider-Man, and BG3 if they all make it out this year.

Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
16-Feb-2023(#192)
Ok guys I just updated the OP with scores for Horizon Call of the Mountain and Wild Hearts. Both are at 79 on Metacritic. Solid scores. About what I expected for Wild Hearts, but definitely a little lower than I expected for the PSVR 2's first-party system seller. The game still pretty rad tho and I'll definitely give it a try when I finally get my hands on the headset.

benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
* 16-Feb-2023(#193)
Other than maybe RE, I really don't see any of the other non-zelda's breaking 90.

Reviewers seem to be getting a little more critical because there aren't really many new ideas happening right now.

TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 16-Feb-2023(#194)
The one I’m really concerned with on my list is suicide squad kill the justice league. The more I read about that about how it might be targeted as a live service, and have live service elements similar to how Gotham Knights appeared to be set up before they changed it, worries the crap out of me because I hold Rocksteady in such high esteem and to see them bend the knee to their corporate overlords would make me a very sad panda.
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
16-Feb-2023(#195)
TalonJedi87 wrote:
> The one I’m really concerned with on my list is suicide squad kill the justice league.
> The more I read about that about how it might be targeted as a live service, and
> have live service elements similar to how Gotham Knights appeared to be set up before
> they changed it, worries the crap out of me because I hold Rocksteady in such high
> esteem and to see them bend the knee to their corporate overlords would make me a
> very sad panda.

Yeah I’m feeling the same way. I picked it because of it being made by rocksteady but that live service stuff has me bummed
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
17-Feb-2023(#196)
Reviews are in early for Octopath Traveler II. It's currently at 86 on Metacrtitic from 23 reviews. OP should be up to date!

https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/octopath-tr...

bonham2
600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
* 17-Feb-2023(#197)
I put Suicide Squad as an alternate due to it being developed by Rocksteady.

I'm hearing some bad things about some others I expected to be good (Diablo IV, Redfall, etc). This life be a rough year for some of our lists.
bonham2
600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
17-Feb-2023(#198)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> Reviews are in early for Octopath Traveler II. It's currently at 86 on Metacrtitic
> from 23 reviews. OP should be up to date!
>
>
>

Woohoo, I forgot I picked this one.
Boss
GameTZ Gold Subscriber 700 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (8)
17-Feb-2023(#199)
bonham2 wrote:
> I put Suicide Squad as an alternate due to it being developed by Rocksteady.
>
> I'm hearing some bad things about some others I expected to be good (Diablo IV, Redfall,
> etc). This life be a rough year for some of our lists.


Between your list and mine we have like a 3 game difference.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
17-Feb-2023(#200)
Okay folks, just updated the OP with scores for Like a Dragon: Ishin! It's currently at 82 on Metacritic from 41 reviews.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-5/like...

TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
17-Feb-2023(#201)
Sweet! Exactly what I was predicting for Like a Dragon too. Nice!!!
HybridCRoW
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
17-Feb-2023(#202)
If only I had looked into the Sherlock Holmes remake more and saw it is being done by a company in the Ukraine... Stupid political agendas messing w/ video games!!

On the positive note, this is interesting.
sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
20-Feb-2023(#203)
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That's not a good sign
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
20-Feb-2023(#204)
Oh wow. Definitely not a good sign. I think the embargo was a few mins ago. We should have reviews coming in shortly.

Kommie
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20-Feb-2023(#205)
Open Critic is at 72% with 60% of critics recommending it.... Not looking great.
Heavyd814life
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20-Feb-2023(#206)
OP updated with scores for Atomic Heart. It's currently at 75 on Metacritic from 22 reviews. Honestly not too bad. I expected way worse after that PowerPyx post.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-5/atom...

bogo
Triple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
20-Feb-2023(#207)
Yikes, that made my final short list... Dodged a bullet there
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 20-Feb-2023(#208)
Crap I was afraid of that. Still 75 isn’t terrible for Atomic Heart. I was expecting 80s but I’ll settle for a 75. I’m glad it’s on Game Pass though since I do not feature on spending full price for it since it sounds like a clusterbang.
Archer
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20-Feb-2023(#209)
I just realized I forgot to put Lies of P on my list.
Kommie
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20-Feb-2023(#210)
Archer wrote:
> I just realized I forgot to put Lies of P on my list.

I'm not expecting it to do that great, outside of From Software those games usually don't score that high
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
20-Feb-2023(#211)
Kommie wrote:
> Archer wrote:
>> I just realized I forgot to put Lies of P on my list.
>
> I'm not expecting it to do that great, outside of From Software those games usually
> don't score that high

I'm just exited to play Bloodborne 2.0 I guess. It might not review well. But damn does it look great based on the gameplay footage from the other day.
Heavyd814life
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20-Feb-2023(#212)
I hadn't even heard of Lies of P until I saw it on a couple of lists. Couldn't find any footage that really did much for me, but I'll have to check out whatever they posted recently because Bloodborne 2.0 is...whoa!

Also looks like Company of Heroes 3 is reviewing well. No one has it, but It's currently at 84 from 20 reviews. I had it on my shortlist but it didn't make the final cut.

Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
20-Feb-2023(#213)
This one has the strongest BB vibes from the combat. Plus it looks like it as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yDx7Px6yMU
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
20-Feb-2023(#214)
I think Lies of P is another Game Pass title at launch too. It doesn't look that amazing to me like Bloodborne, the king of kings, but I may check it out on GP.
sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
20-Feb-2023(#215)
Reviewing surprisingly better than those initial reports.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
22-Feb-2023(#216)
OP updated with scores for Kirby’s Return To Dream Land Deluxe. It's currently at 80 on Metacritic from 57 reviews.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/kirbys-retu...

SupremeSarna
Silver Good Trader
23-Feb-2023(#217)
I thought the rules prohibited remakes and remasters.

Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
23-Feb-2023(#218)
SupremeSarna wrote:
> I thought the rules prohibited remakes and remasters.
>
>

Remakes are allowed. Remasters and ports are not.
PizzaTheHutt
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader Has Written 3 Reviews
23-Feb-2023(#219)
Which category does Kirby fit into, though? I know it has a bit of new content, but more of those reviews call it a remaster than a remake. I personally thought it was the former. I'm fine with it counting though and either way I'll be skipping it because they couldn't even be bothered to add in online co-op like how they did for the Super Mario 3D World port.

Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
23-Feb-2023(#220)
Its a remake.
benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
23-Feb-2023(#221)
Personally I think it's a little silly to have to distinguish between the two for the fantasy league.

Do remasters typically score as high as the original? Or does the passage of time mean the gameplay is beginning to show its age so they typically score lower?

Unless remasters are consistently high scorers, it seems like including one on your list would be a "safe" 75+ pick rather than a good 85+ one.

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