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#65 and #66 down: Twisted Metal and Twisted Metal II (played on PS5 via PS+ premium). These two clears get me the Mass Destruction badge. 5 more to go! I never played the Twisted Metal games back in the day, and they are harder than I expected mostly because the controls are terrible. However, there's definitely fun to be had for sure even with them being rough around the edges.

@SupremeSarna if Twisted Metal counts towards Mass Destruction, would Wreckfest also count towards that?

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:

The controls are terrible, and the AI opponents are cheating jerks. Still a blast, though.

It’s the weirdest thing. If I played almost any other game with such bad controls, I wouldn’t be able to get past it, but, somehow, it still is fun.

Renaissance2K wrote:

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:

I think the wacky physics and the controls go hand in hand. Part of the reason the franchise - hell, the entire genre - didn't have very long legs is because it was displaced by shooters that required a lot more cover and precision. A game where you're essentially driving an exploding bathtub on wheels is going to have a hard time competing in that space.

I remember when the Windows port was released, and a PC Gamer review of it said something like "The controls are weird, and the physics don't make sense." That's the damn point, fools.

(They said the same thing about the PC port of Destruction Derby 2.)

Slickriven wrote:

I believe so. Any kind of demolition derby-themed game would count.

SupremeSarna wrote:

Good to know, I had counted it personally towards the Outrun/racing badge but might switch that up, if/when I beat another game that would count towards either badge.

I beat WWE2K23 on the xbox1

#17 Pokemon Shield

67:02 time, 313 Pokedex. More than had my fill by the conclusion of the story, didn't stick around for the post-game content. There were some quality of life things that were nice regarding move effectiveness and fast travel. Still, these things just equate to making games easier to expand their audience reach. The lack of secret areas/paths/Pokemon was disappointing. Possibly the most linear Pokemon game I've played. Still, I played a majority of this with my kids and we had a good time with it. We just ordered the Scarlet/Violet double pack to play through and even busted out some old PTCG decks.

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I beat Club Nintendo Picross , nabbing me the Localize Mother 3 badge. I wouldn't normally pirate a game, but this Club Nintendo Japan-exclusive game was never sold for legal tender and has absolutely no chance of returning on future hardware.
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It's the picross you'd expect with Nintendo-themed puzzles, a few of which you might not expect--Tamagon from Devil World is a puzzle! I had two massively long cartrips on Saturday, so I beat the whole game in 24 hours. Good stuff, good stuff. I appreciate the lack of Mega Picross, since that mode usually stinks.

How many repetitive cycles of Rampage do I have to finish before I can call the game done? It has 128 rounds altogether, but they don't really add more mechanics or setpieces after the third round. I'm on round 43, for the record.

I gave up on Stage 65, exactly halfway through the game. Do you think that’s sufficient for a long, repetitive experience?

once your bored. lol.

If no one objects to me counting Rampage as beaten after 64 rounds, I’ll do just that. And it will earn me the cake badge back since I played it on .

@SupremeSarna Does Three Wonders count as three games or one? It's three distinct games that each take about 45-60 minutes to complete, but they only exist as a "bundle" of games in a single arcade cabinet.

If it released as a single game cabinet, I'd be inclined to call it just one game with three distinct sections, though beating just one of them would count for beating the whole thing. In this odd case, however, I'd let you call the shots on it.

After a long break from the Mario vs. DK series, I came back with Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis . I've got things to say about it.
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This was the game that broke MvDK away from its roots, transforming it into a Lemmings-esque puzzler. The games that followed made smart changes that made the series shine, even without the Arcade DK vibe. This game had a lot of growing pains. For one, it's much too long, having eight worlds with nine stages each. Given how tricky these stages can be, that many stages can become a chore. The stages can be daunting, but they're mostly well-designed. In fact, I discovered that you can often miss coins, even big ones, and still get a gold star rank if you excel at getting the other bonuses. So coins that put your Minis in jeopardy can be ignored entirely if it gives you peace of mind.

One mechanic I'm thankful they scrapped later was the overuse of the stylus. You have to swipe the Mini Marios to make them move in a direction or flick up to jump. Worst of all, tapping makes them stop in place. Doing this negates your Nonstop bonus, which is essential for getting a gold star on most stages. Compounding this is the issue that swiping the Mini Marios occasionally registers as tapping them, so you'll lose your bonus through no fault of your own and have to restart.

Then there's the bosses. Good gracious, why did they make them like this? You turn a crank with the stylus to move/angle a cannon and fire Minis at Donkey Kong. You usually need to trickshot them off the walls to avoid DK entirely, landing them atop the ceiling, causing them to knock down toward the ape. Others require you to smack DK with the Minis while dodging the projectiles he drops on you. The latter can be okay, the former are aggravating. Losing even one Mini from a misaligned shot can cost you the gold star. The Floor 8 boss is especially brutal.

It's decent enough, I guess, but I'm prepared to call it the worst MvDK game. Mini-Land Mayhem will surely be better! Fingers crossed.

@Renaissance2K I'll put your Three Wonders clear as a single game for now. If you'd like me to split it into three, just say the word.

SupremeSarna wrote:

I reject, you need to beat all levels, twice and backwards too - especially since it's on another console.
But I see you and I'm maybe coming for you... I've actually been sort of sucked into Halo Infinite's story, but am around 75% I believe and I've got an game in the works for when I finish up Halo or maybe a bit sooner.

I'm finishing arcade games faster than I can post updates about them. Here's a big update with seven new arcade clears.

Number: 36
Full Title: Three Wonders
Platform Played: Arcade
Collection: N/A
Native Platform: Arcade
Original Platforms: Arcade
Applicable Badge: Heavy Machine Gun (already earned), Destroy the Core (2/2), Brain Teaser (1/2)

When I logged this game into my Backloggery, I was surprised to see that I played through this three-game collection on PSP many moons ago. Three Wonders packages a fantasy run-and-gun named Midnight Wanderers, a shoot-em-up named Chariot that re-uses some characters and assets, and a totally-unrelated Bomberman/Lolo puzzle hybrid called Don't Pull. All three games stand on their own, but Midnight Wanderers was clearly the most polished, and I had a lot of fun with Don't Pull, at least until the halfway point when the enemy aggression went through the roof.

Number: 37
Full Title: Fantasy Zone
Platform Played: Arcade
Collection: N/A
Native Platform: Arcade
Original Platforms: Arcade
Applicable Badge: Destroy the Core (already earned), Grown-Ass Man (2/2)

Oh lordy, Fantasy Zone nearly broke me.

Despite the cartoonish, brightly-covered exterior, Fantasy Zone turns from a "fun, cutesy, lighthearted romp" to an animated Gremlins movie. I discovered too much about the game's economy - notably, how upgrades get more expensive each time you make a repeat purchase - leaving me at a point where the only way I could beat the final boss was with a weapon that was too expensive for me to purchase. After seven grueling levels, each with its own annoying boss, it was pretty disheartening to have to start all over, but fortunately, the second run went a lot more smoothly.

Number: 38
Full Title: Final Fight
Platform Played: Arcade
Collection: N/A
Native Platform: Arcade
Original Platforms: Arcade
Applicable Badge: Pile Drivin' (already earned)

I played through this on the Capcom Beat 'em Up collection. In the time since, the MiSTer Project dropped a CPS-1 core (the arcade system used by Final Fight and a bunch of other 90s Capcom games), and I'd been looking for an excuse to play through it again on more accurate hardware with a real arcade stick. I don't know what it was about the playthrough, but I had such a blast. Playing it on a real screen with real buttons and the music blasting was just a lot of fun. As much as I love having so many great games on the go, playing games at home definitely strikes a different note.

Number: 39
Full Title: Mortal Kombat II
Platform Played: Arcade
Collection: N/A
Native Platform: Arcade
Original Platforms: Arcade
Applicable Badge: Street Fightin' (already earned)

Every time I've played through the original arcade release of Mortal Kombat II, it's been as part of a poorly-emulated collection. Though we're still months away from a MiSTer port, I decided to load the game up on MAME and see those gigantic digitized sprites in all their glory. The game is every bit of a quarter muncher as it is on consoles, even with the difficulty set to "Very Easy", but nothing could have prepared me for the nightmare of Kintaro. It took dozens of dozens of attempts before I was able to lock the ugly multi-limbed bastard into submission with a combination of sai throws and jump kicks, and even then, it was a learning process. Shao Khan was a breeze in comparion.

Number: 40
Full Title: Sega Ages: OutRun
Platform Played: Switch
Collection: N/A
Native Platform: Arcade
Original Platforms: Arcade
Applicable Badge: Race Drivin' (2/2)

In 1991, when I was seven years old, my extended family had a huge reunion that will live forever in my memory because (a) I had my first (unintentional) sip of black coffee, and it turned me off from the stuff for all eternity; and (b) we rented arcade machines for Street Fighter II and OutRun, on which I bounced back and forth nearly all day. I wasted hours timing out on OutRun before realizing that the car goes considerably faster if you shift it into high gear. "Passing Breeze" will forever be associated with that Game Over screen as a result.

I've been eyeing OutRun in the Retro Talkshop Thread backlog for quite a while, but Arcade August was the perfect opportunity to dig into it a little bit. It's not an easy game, and while I have a real racing wheel with which to control the game, I never convinced myself that I had set it up properly on either the MiSTer or MAME, so I gave up and booted the Sega Ages version on Switch, which had analog control, at least. It took a lot of trial and error and plenty of pattern memorization before I finally got the hang of the last segments of the course and crossed the finish line.

Number: 41
Full Title: Vampire Savior: The Lord of Vampire
Platform Played: Windows
Collection: Capcom Arcade Stadium 2
Native Platform: Arcade
Original Platforms: Arcade
Applicable Badge: Street Fightin' (already earned)

I played through Darkstalkers 3 and all its ports on nearly (or absolutely?) every supported platform two years ago when it became the Retro Talkshop Thread Game of the Month, covering all characters and secrets. Since then, it dropped as part of the Capcom Arcade Stadium 2, where I picked it up for two playthroughs with Talbain and Morrigan. The experience on the Steam Deck didn't feel very different from that on the MiSTer, but most of the latter's beta graphical issues were resolved here, and I desperately missed having a true six-button layout.

Number: 42
Full Title: Burgertime
Platform Played: Arcade
Collection: N/A
Native Platform: Arcade
Original Platforms: Arcade
Applicable Badge: Quarter Muncher (2/2)

Rounding off this giant post and the last of the Front Room arcade games, I did a loop of Burgertime this morning. I revisited the game back in 2020 Year of Replays because of the soft place I have for it in my heart (it was one of the first NES games I ever owned, and my dad and I would play it together) though I fared much better this time around, making it to the end of the fifth level and then stretching things until Level 3 of the second loop. Those pickles never knew what hit them.

I've been playing arcade games in the morning while I wait for my son to wake up and playing Final Fantasy XVI in the evening when I have some time to myself. So far, that's been working out pretty well, though it's getting harder and harder to pick up arcade games when I'm in Clive's shoes.

@Renaissance2K You beat Fantasy Zone in two runs?! Insane if so!
You should always be buying Laser Beams unless you’re up against Poppoos, when a 7-Way Shot would be the most beneficial.

In the Master System version, if you buy all engine upgrades and a special weapon, you get unlimited use of that weapon until you die once. Makes that version far more fun imo.

@Renaissance2K

That's an impressive post. Nice.

SupremeSarna wrote:

I guess a "run" in that context meant "making it to the boss". Both of those "runs" took a whole lot of tries and failures.

#67 down: Circus Electrique on PS5. This (alongside my previous clear of Card Hog) gives me the The Best Offense badge. Four badges left! I was playing Baldur's Gate 3 (and trying to convince myself to finish Final Fantasy XVI somehow along the way) when I stumbled upon something about Circus Electrique being available on PS+ premium. I gave it a whirl and got sucked in for the last few days. I ended up playing it until I finally beat it tonight, and it was a lot of fun. You recruit circus performers who you then can send off to heal, use to spy (revealing information about the maps you travel on), assign them to put on a circus show (which takes 1-4 days and takes into account various synergies between the performers and requires certain stats from them to complete successfully, resulting in some combination of experience for the performers, money, and experience for your circus overall. You can level up characters, giving them stronger abilities and better stats, assign them different artifacts, etc. Then, on the maps, you fight enemies, play shell games where you wager money and follow the ball (with 3 successful attempts in a row revealing a new path on the map), charity events, go to bars, and all sorts of other events. Then, when you engage in combat, it's similar to Darkest Dungeon with position impacting what actions you can perform and every character death being permanent. The characters have a health bar and a blue bar that's kind of like stamina, and, if it runs out, the character runs away (not forever but from that particular battle, putting you at a disadvantage). It's a game that's easy to pick up and harder to master, and the last boss was a pain in the neck before I realized how to properly use robot bears. (Yes, you can use robot bears!) I recommend this one. It probably took me about 15 hours to beat.

2nd in Aug, 57th overall, 3rd Mame
S.P.Y. Special Project Y
Badge - Can this count towards the Quarter Muncher? If not it really could be a candidate for You're Winner - your call Sarna

Thanks to Ren2k's RTT GotM's arcade focus I've put some time into my mame setup and decided to play this SPY game and it was not good. It has 5 platform like levels with 4 others where you're pushing into the background - reminded me of a Contra knockoff with 1 stage feeling a lot like Space Harrier (I think). In the platform style levels you punch and kick scores of enemies largely 1-hit killing them besides a few tougher guys and some bosses, you can also get some weapons like pistols, shotguns or machine guns. Then in the into-the-screen levels you always have a weapon and get more drops of others and can take out guys if you get close as well. But what was the most lame aspect is you reach the boss and he says 'ha you can't get me' and flies off and you cycle back to the first level again... which threw me at first, but you run through the whole set of levels, with really no changes, to reach him again and he takes 3 hits to kill... and the 2nd set of levels really didn't feel any more challenging, dumb.

Octopath Traveller 2 -
Played Castii as my main character. So stuck with Apothecary this game as well. Pretty good game, I THINK I liked part 1 better? But it might be nostalgia as the first game was like a breath of fresh air with it's HD/2D graphics. But both great games either way.
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New Super Mario Bros. 2 -
Just like another poster recently, I felt like beating this before Wonder. But for me, I had to buy it again. As I rebuild a few of my small collections. I got as pretty good deal on a sealed copy so I went for it, a good 2D mario. The 3D is pretty good too, the higher you put the 3D the further the background stretches. Pretty cool.
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Resistance Fall of Man -
I think this is my first clear on my new PS3? I figured in order to not get burnt out, might as well play part 1 of a series where there are 3 games. I'll get back to this series after a bit of a break. It's not bad. Not one of the reasons you GET a PS3 but if you like shooters, it's a good exclusive
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I beat Sonic Origins on story mode. This is basically 4 games in total, but you can just put it as Sonic Origins.

I beat Dead Island Riptide on the xbox1

Number: 18
Full Title: The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
Platform Played:
Collection: N/A
Native Platform:
Original Platform:
Applicable Badge: Days Gone By (1/2)

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This game led to both my prolonged absence and my triumphant return. As I mentioned in the game's thread, I believe this is the best game released since Half-Life: Alyx, though there is an important caveat that I have not yet played Elden Ring. I got all the shrines and lightroots but decided to wrap rather than wasting time on Koroks or upgrading gear. I greatly appreciated that this one was both darker and more challenging than BotW.

@SupremeSarna Would Final Fantasy XVI count for the Vault Boy badge? I’m not finished with it yet, but I was just wondering since I read that they made it to appeal to a Western audience.

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:

I’d be willing to count it.

Sarna I just beat Shock Troopers for the 5th time. This time I went largely with the 2nd dude, but ended up switching to the 2nd woman and completing it with her. I started on the river path and switched to the mountain one, taking on the 1 train level to change paths. I also beat it on hard and in some ways found that easier, or maybe after 4x times already I was a bit better (seems likely). But on hard I did better against most bosses, beating a few without even losing a life. This earns me the Gamer's Day badge. I beat it this time via the Amazon Games sourced PC port. All in I beat the NeoGeo ROM 3x times, 1 each on each path and not sure there's any difficulty settings, seems unlikely, then I beat it twice via the PC port, both times starting on 1 path and switching when given the chance, with my 1st run on normal and 2nd on hard (that version had easy, normal, hard and insane).

Also beat another Mame game: Match It
3rd in Aug, 58th overall
Badge: If SPY can be credited for Quarter Muncher, then for sure this one can and it earns the badge for me

They give you boards of tiles to match and you have to be able to draw a line with normally only 2 turns to get the match. For example, think of a 3x3 grid of numbers on a phone/keyboard and you can match 1 with 2,3 (straight line) and 4,7 (via out, turn, up, turn back in) but not 5,6,8,9 b/c they would require more than 2 turns. Obviously the layouts were more complicated than that. It was alright, limiting you on time and such.

Also beat another Mame game: The Simpsons
4th in Aug, 59th overall
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Beat this for RTT GotM. I don't really recall ever seeing and certainly not playing this arcade cabinet as a kid, not that I was as big into games as a kid, nor had many places near me even with machines where I lived. Was an alright beat em up I suppose. I'm not the biggest fan of that series anyhow.

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Updated! Correct me if I got anything wrong.

Number: 19
Full Title: Super Contra
Platform Played:
Collection: Contra Anniversary Collection
Native Platform:
Original Platform:
Applicable Badge: N/A

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I greatly prefer the behind the character stages from the original over the overhead stages from this one, but I do enjoy the more horizontal approach to the normal stages over the more vertical ones in the original. Also, holy crap is the laser a pain to aim in this one.

5th in Aug, 60th overall, 16th
Halo Infinite
Already have Badge

I started playing this a few weeks ago and really it was pretty solid. It's the first Halo campaign I've played solo as I normally played with my former college roommate and best friend, but he wasn't too interested after he said he tried it before the co-op finally became available. Surely the switch to an open world was pretty different from past games in the series, but I liked it. That said, playing solo did make parts the game a touch more challenging without someone else to especially take on the several times the game threw 2x Hunters at you. The normal soldiers that you could rescue and could come along were somewhat helpful, but a bit understandably would perish swiftly.

There were some challenging sections including the final phase of the final boss b/c their attack would drop my shield and they zipped around the arena erratically. But playing solo meant I could explore more and I did, and experienced the story better too, which was nice. I did nearly every optional task in the open world, except for finding and destroying all of the propaganda towers which I still got a good percentage of, but they didn't seem to pop as well on the map. I even found 4 skulls, which I think might be the first ones I've ever found in the whole series, since playing co-op we'd play it at a more push forward pace, vs. exploring/looking for stuff.

I will say that after the game has been out as long as it has, I was surprised by 2-3 odd things: 1- that some of the death ragdoll-ing from the Chief was a bit funny, just seemed odd and a few times enemies would shoot off like rockets on death. 2- I would get like magma red or a lime green flashes on the screen at times, only like 1 layer of maybe smoke or the background and it would only appear for a handful of frames, so well under a second. It was just stark and easy to spot as most times it spanned a good part of the screen. 3- The game struggled a touch with Quick Resume, but some games do, especially ones where they like you to connect to servers. It wasn't too bad and I learned as long as I didn't leave it for too many days, it was fine.

For a good while I've been thinking about revisiting the Halo and Gears (also played entirely co-op with my friend) series and playing them solo and this might push me to. Maybe I'll focus on Halo Combat Evolved and Gears 1 since both were essentially/effectively remastered, though both 2nd games in their series were understandably better games.

I beat call of duty black ops on the xbox360 (beating this and call of duty 2 gets me the 2nd ammendment badge)

#68 down: Final Fantasy XVI on PS5. I'd like to count this clear toward the Vault Boy badge as per @SupremeSarna's previous OK. (Thanks!) This was everything I was hoping it would be. It has legitimately next gen graphics, a decent story, and fun gameplay. It's one of the most cinematic games I've ever played (which I recognize is a con for some people but is a pro for me). It gets a bit cheesy at times. (The voice acting is unintentionally hilarious when Clive is upset about something I won't say to avoid spoilers at the end of the game.) However, it's still a great game and definitely worth playing. It would probably be the best game of the year some years (although I wouldn't give it the nod this year just because of how ridiculously steep the competition is this year). It was an interesting thing playing FFI and FFXVI for the first time in the same year. It's incredible how far the series has come.

Maybe 6th in Aug, #61 overall, 1st
Cel Damage
@SupremeSarna you tell me if this can count, if so it earns me a piece of your cake and the Mass Destruction badge (with Wreckfest)

There are 4 regions in this chaotic, fast paced, humorous and largely 1-hit kill/death car carnage game. The regions are old west, swamp, graveyard and outer space. Within each region are 3 maps/arenas and initially there are just 2 game types on offer, of which I beat all 24 events. The first type is a challenge to reach 500 hits on foes the fastest. You are spread around the arena and so are some environmental hazards and weapon pickups. You toss a weak item as well and each weapon pickup has a usage bar - you really want a weapon 90% of the time. Simply beat on the 6 other opponents until someone, preferably me, exceeds 500 hits. You can select from 6 characters that have different traits in their rides and each region has an additional character so each event will have 7. I found that certain folks seemed to better in different areans and game types. I did pretty well with this game type and found 1 dude was really good here if I drove around less and used his unique weapon more. I won the final event with him by over 200 points. Generally I would win by closer to 50, but I for sure lost a number of times including once by like 2 points.

The 2nd type is a gate race, where 2 gates are placed on the map and you need to drive through them 1 and then the other, winner crowned after the 20th gate. This could be tough as I very rarely would get more than 1 gate ahead and I lost a LOT of these before completing all 12. Again certain characters were better here, like that blond lady in the pink Caddy. She was fast, handled well and her unique weapon seemed to home in on opponents better and get the kill. Her attack is a dynamite stick flung by a crossbow. So for the original offering, I have beat all 24 events and lost many more than I'd care to count. But after you beat just 4 in either type, a 3rd type becomes available and while all modes could frustrate, the 3rd, and maybe the game overall is starting to wear me down.

The 3rd type is called flag rush and there are at least 4 flags in the arena that run around on their own two legs and were frustratingly erratic themselves. At times they drop more, but I think they also can escape or something, b/c a recent attempt I for sure saw like 8 and then back down near 4 after nobody won. So you need to collect 4 flags and then reach a goal marker to win but if you get hit by a smaller attack you'll likely lose at least 1 and of course death means they all are lost again. I beat all 3 of these in the old west region and unlocked that region's unique character. I also beat I think just 1 more in the graveyard region, but after trying the first space region I might be done.

You need to win each event in each region in order as the later stages don't open for that game type until you do, so I can't try the 3rd space or swamp arena for example. The first space was a royal pain as it's a round-like arena where once you get all 4, I found you needed to use a teleporter to reach the elevated outer rim and drive 1/3 of the way around to the goal. Twice I had all 4 and was on said rim only to get blown up. That stage was crazy chaotic and I really noticed there that the flags were difficult to drive over and collect, but I was using mainly the strong and slower dozer character, so maybe the pink Caddy lady would be better.

I suppose to really count this, I should get all 36 events completed and not the 28 that I'm stuck at currently - <sigh> I spent like 30 mins trying to get that first space arena just now with 1 attempt surely lasting a good 10+ mins. According to HowLong2Beat, they listed either 4 or 5 hours, but I'm up over 7.5 already and have around 20% remaining. I don't really think I'm doing too poorly, but it seems like 1- I really need to pick the correct vehicle/character for each event and arena combo, 2- I need to be sure of how to get to the goal once I have all 4 flags and 3- I need some luck. There are over 2 dozen weapons and some are more desirable and effective vs. others and some I basically avoid picking up. The controls and feel are WAY into the arcadey/floaty realm, though I've got pretty used to them, except of the geeky guy in the hovercraft, I tried him just once and that thing was too hard to corner in. I suppose this shouldn't be counted yet. Maybe I'll push to get at least 32 event wins before calling it, b/c at this point, I fell like luck is a big factor, though maybe more so in the races... while this flag rush might just be perseverance and frustration suppression.

@Slickriven I don't see why it wouldn't count. But beware: The cake is a lie.

@SupremeSarna I technically didn't beat it yet, really. I mean there are 36 events to beat and I only beat 28 so far. I don't think it should be counted. I also expect to see credits after beating the 36th event.

Alternatively maybe I could count Burgertime that I set the 2nd and 3rd best times on recently for the RTT GotM. I was thinking about not counting it, but eh, why not.

@Slickriven I missed that part. If you haven't actually gotten to the end, it isn't really beaten, is it? Update me when you've finished it adequately.