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Yep. I think it's a fantastic idea, and IIRC, there's a comic with that premise, but I just couldn't find any real sources that prove it's real.

I had absolutely no interest in this show until this trailer. They redeemed Kingpin's shoddy presentation from Hawkeye within the first 10 seconds. This feels like a true continuation of the Netflix Daredevil series... the tone seems to be way more violent and gritty than most MCU shows.

I'm in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFUKnherhuw&ab_cha...

Also very in for more Apes...

HAIL CAESAR!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ_HvTBaFoo&ab_cha...

theJaw wrote:

Same, that trailer was awesome. Can't believe how dark and violent it looks though, just feels weird for the MCU.

Scott wrote:

Imo they need to start stretching their muscles into other genres besides the bright and fun stuff they're best known for. Especially with Daredevil still being developed. In no world do I want to see a whole show with silly Daredevil from She-Hulk, even if I thought his appearances there were fun enough. Ya don't bring back Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio unless you intend to keep the tone from the Netflix series.

theJaw wrote:

Well.

This has completely killed any interest I still had in the MCU.

How the hell could they miss the point of Kingpin so hard... Where's the smart, scheming Kingpin from the comics I really like? He'd never do that to the ice cream man. At least, not directly. Blergh. Just. Bah.

@Foxhack Huh? One of the Kingpin’s defining traits both in the comics and the Netflix series (and the 2003 movie but we don’t need to talk about that) is that he does indeed get physical very often. He’s so untouchable that he knows that he’ll get away with anything. That’s his entire character.

@theJaw Comic book Kingpin is a smart, manipulative man who uses his enormous strength and physique to intimidate people. He can fudge you up physically, but he'd rather not get his hands dirty. Especially in a way that's just out there in the open. And he's always planning ahead.

MCU Kingpin seems to focus more on making him a giant baby who throws tantrums at the slightest irritation, who can't control his emotions, and who spends more time screaming internally than actually scheming how to screw you, your family, and your descendants in a way that can't be traced back to him.

D'Onofrio was wasted on such a crap interpretation of the character. Meh.

Edit: Also, is this a retcon? I remember him visiting Maya, but he wasn't the Kingpin yet, he visited the place where she lived in more civilian clothing, not his fancy Kingpin getup.

Comic book Kingpin absolutely got/gets physical. All the time. Yah he planned and manipulated, but again, one of the MAJOR primary factors of his comic character is that he's not afraid to also get physical. He does so in a way that illustrates how little he cares about being seen AS the Kingpin. Though to be fair, Born Again is the major example of him being more manipulative, fudging with Murdock psychologically as opposed to physically.

D'Onofrio was wasted in Hawkeye 100%, totally agreed. THAT take on Kingpin was absolute trash. But this Echo trailer seems to paint him much closer to the Netflix Daredevil version. And Netflix Daredevil is still the most faithful, and just genuinely best TV show to be born of the MCU (even if it's not 100% canon).

As a person who hasn't read any of the comics and barely knows who Kingpin is, I'm in the group like several above: I had no interest in this until that trailer. Now I'm interested.

While Kingpin can get physical in the comics, it's rarely in public like that. He'll beat the hell out of Spider-Man or Daredevil when it's in his own offices or secret lab or whatever. He's not killing people out on the streets of New York.

Grenadier wrote:

Most of his fights with Spider-Man or Daredevil are in public. Killing a guy in an alley for what he perceives to be a slight is not out of character whatsoever for Kingpin. Especially not Netflix's Kingpin.

I've read so many Kingpin stories. I love that character. Those trailer moments are very Kingpin.

Terminator anime

https://youtu.be/KedFX1pn2kA

Madame Web Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLHqWIKm_TY

Looks very bad. Like a B-tier Blumhouse movie... Happy Death Day's superhero cousin or something along those lines.

Neat to see the spider-people costumes, although I do feel like they're a bait-and-switch for the trailer. Like they'll show up for a scene in the movie as a flash to the future or something, but won't amount to much more than that.

I like Dakota Johnson though, she usually brings quality to whatever she works on. So there's that at least.

Dune part 2 Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ft5NdtQfjU

So Final Destination meets Spiderman eh?

shadyfozzie wrote:

Rule of thumb: if you see "Screen Culture," the trailer isn't real. They post "concept" trailers reusing footage that's already been released and sometimes take shots from other movies to flesh them out. Admittedly usually well-edited, but not legit.

Madame Web looks ok. As a comment in the video said, early 2000s vibes.

What if... Season 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiEVqZ2Bc_c

That's really cool, ngl. I really liked the first season, so it's nice to see we will get another one soon.

Is that... Michael Douglas as a young Hank Pym?

They should've gotten a different actor - he's great, but his older voice does not fit a younger Hank at all.

The trailer for Lady Ballers just dropped. Looks pretty funny.

Porksta wrote:

Just watched the trailer.. that was 2+ minutes of my life I will never get back.

Is that by one of those right wing Christian filmmakers? It’s got that cast.

Feeb wrote:

The Daily Wire made it, so basically yes

Kommie wrote:

I thought it seemed a bit hyperbolically ignorant.

Quiet Place: Day One..
Looks AWESOME!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPY7J-flzE8&pp=ygU...

Looks pretty good. Lupita Nyong'o will carry it as she does anytime she's in a movie.

I don't feel like either Quiet Place movie is spectacular... I feel like the series as a whole is a bit overrated. But I do think I preferred Part 2 over the first one, even if it feels incomplete. I'll give this one a go.

Yeah, I'm going to need to know beforehand if the cat makes it. I'll be checking https://www.doesthedogdie.com/ before I watch...

theJaw wrote:

Yeah, I really enjoyed both movies, but I agree that neither is spectacular, and both are overrated. I think Blunt and Krasinksi being so well-liked has at least something to do with it. It was a very unique concept for a movie though, which is always welcome.

Deadpool & Wolverine
https://youtu.be/uJMCNJP2ipI?si=gTlwCgeMHD3-GboV

Entertaining trailer but was hoping more would be revealed.

Looks fudging awesome.

Super stoked, as is everyone. Finally a reason to be excited again like we were years ago.

Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtFI7SNtVpY&ab_cha...

Twisters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdok0rZdmx4&ab_cha...

Wicked Part One:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1dvX9Vs0ns&ab_cha...

Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes: Fudge yah, love those new Apes movies. I'll watch it.

Twisters: Who the fudge asked for this? I'll watch it.

Wicked: The wife loves the musical, and I generally love musicals. I'll watch it.

back4more wrote:

M-SHE-U's last chance

Everyone’s saying that, but I don’t see it that way. There have been a few bad projects recently… but there were some bad projects in phases 1-3 too. I feel like the post-Endgame MCU backlash is a bit overblown.

That said, Deadpool & Wolverine looks like it’s gonna be awesome and probably a step above other recent MCU movies.

theJaw wrote:

It's extremely overblown. Phase 4 and 5 (so far) have been solid overall, the films at least. There were some misses, but also some really great movies, then a few in between that you'd think were absolutely terrible if you never saw any of them and just read the loudest comments online. The shows haven't been as solid overall, but I've enjoyed most of them. It's not like you're spending $50+ to take your family to see those though, it's a few bucks for a month subscription to Disney, I think we need to lower the expectations for these shows a wee bit.


Yeah, I'm so excited for this one. It's nice to feel like there's an overall hype for an MCU project again, it's been a while. The last time I remember there being this much hype was for No Way Home and Multiverse of Madness. Since then it's just sour grapes from all the haters all the time.

EclipseLion wrote:
"MCU's last chance" 😂