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Probably. Still better than the Devil angle payoff though.

Big false. Logical stories are cooler than doing the same lame bullcrap over and over. Plus you wouldn’t know, not watching the shows and all.

Lol Slim Jim dropping sponsorship until something’s done about Vince. Ya love to see it.

Triple H and Stephanie were also leading the charge into the 2022 investigation but coincidentally never reached out the victim in question. They have to face some ramifications for that too, I’d think.

Man, of all the theme music these Def Rebel jabronis have farted out over the past few years, Carlito's has got to be among the worst. Big mistake to let the CFO$ guys go, they've made the ones fans like singing along to.

Yah the new themes do not hit like the old ones.

Funny how you say no one reached out to her, but someone who was on the WWE board said they did. I’ll trust the one who was there. Look up the guy Jeff Speed. He was on the board.

https://x.com/BrandonThurston/status/1750978385419...

You like what you like. I like what I like. I don’t need to watch AEW because their YouTube clips are more than enough, if I want to see anything at all. Don’t know what the wink means, though…?

Vince officially gone
https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1751055804...

Fudge yeah!

I even enabled scoring long enough to plus you for that. It’s back to being hidden/disabled now though.

BucketofJustice wrote:

Not sure why you’re getting so defensive lately but you can jog off with that crap.

Jeff Speed is covering his own ass because he was involved with the investigation that, you know, never interviewed the victim in question. All he’s saying is that he’s “confident” their investigation was thorough. What the fudge else is he supposed to say?

You believe ol’ Speed, I’ll trust the victim.


Yes, I like what I like… which is literally all of pro wrestling. Hence why I watch whatever show I have the time to and don’t just assume I’m getting a full picture of shows I don’t watch solely because I’m too cool watch them, thus relying on Youtube clips to convey entire stories. And considering how lost you seem to be whenever discussing the AEW stories, I question whether you even watch clips or are just saying you do.

The wink is me being sarcastic toward you. Obviously. Though you’ll note that you’re the one who brought up AEW solely because you saw someone dare criticize Roman Reigns matches.

Truly not sure where this hostility is coming from but let’s take it down a notch.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

Good. That sack of crap should’ve been gone a long time ago.

You’re right. I apologize. I went back and re-read some stuff I posted and I was wrong. Not to make an excuse, but I have some things happening IRL and it boiled over. I deleted what I posted because I shouldn’t have posted it at all. I was wrong. I’ll try to be better at checking myself. Wrestling isn’t worth any of the aggravation I may have caused. I’m sorry.

Still not a liar though haha

BucketofJustice wrote:

No hard feelings at all brother, I appreciate ya. Apologies for being a dickhead as well, certainly capable of it. Hope all is well on your end my man.

I appreciate that. Thanks for being cool about it. We’ll see what happens with IRL stuff.

After Vince's resignation last night, Slim Jim is already back as a sponsor.

Over the last year or so Wade Keller has been on top of Vince and Stephanie's relationship. But today he revealed that Vince is rarely allowed to see his granddaughters now.

That isn’t a surprise. I’m curious how Wade would know that, but hey I don’t blame her a bit.

This year has been nuts already and we aren’t even out of January. We’re not even past the Royal Rumble.

Alright, some mumbo jumbo in one more post so I don't gotta split it all up into more multi-posts.

- Raj Giri says there will be a debut tonight. Is this Jade Cargill? I expect Andrade in the men's Rumble, but I don't know if that counts as a debut more than a return.

- Raj also gives a hint to potential surprises tonight, saying "The WWE/TNA relationship is reaching new levels"


I still have so many questions about this stuff with Vince. Like, how "clean" are Kevin Dunn and Bruce Prichard in all of this? Were they involved but just haven't been named yet?

Guys like Chris Jericho and John Cena, they were/are very close to Vince, just as much as Brock is currently, if not more. How much of this stuff did they know was going on?

Not to make excuses for Vince but he has been open about his childhood abuse, and people who go through that often end up hypersexual and in some cases grow up to become the monster that they hated.

I know what the TNA/WWE surprise is. I won’t spoil it. I accidentally tapped on something on PWInsider and it was that. I’d be surprised if Jade didn’t appear. Unsure about Andrade. I hope Andrade is more like he was in NXT than he was in WWE the first time. I don’t know where he fits in unless it’s in the LWO/LDP stuff, like most of the rest of the Hispanic main roster guys. They need to be spread out more.

I thought about the Vince thing too. I believe the victim 1000000% but I also believe that Jeff Speed guy did all he could with the investigation. I think something came out in the investigation and that’s why Speed and a couple others found themselves out when Vince bullied his way back in. I don’t know what anyone else knew or helped with or whatever, but everyone that was involved needs to be held accountable. Period.

Brock also can’t appear tonight. While I’m glad the Jericho thing was baseless? I think so since it seems it died out as quick and it appeared? At any rate, the issues that I read about at Worlds End would be 100x worse if Brock shows up tonight. I think WWE will be smart to keep him off the show while AEW didn’t have time to pivot from Jericho from that show.

Vince went through some crap as a kid. Doesn’t absolve him of any responsibility or guilt.

Gonna be hard to scrub the past of Vince like they did Benoit but you have to imagine they will remove some of the more sexual angles. I think this is the tip of the iceberg and once he’s dead we will get the bigger story. These don’t come out of no where and he was doing these things when he was arguably in a lower position than he was at his height.

I have no idea how they’d completely scrub Vince. They couldn’t completely scrub Benoit. I’d think they do with Vince what they did with Benoit and never mention him and make him unsearchable on the Network/Peacock/whatever streaming service they have. They’re not against scrubbing really bad stuff, so you’re probably right that the worst stuff will be gone.

I waffle on scrubbing material. I don’t know if I’d be totally in favor of the scrubbing of any of the material, McMahon or Benoit or otherwise, because someone somewhere will be dumb enough to repeat it. It should be an option for a filter for sure, but it happened and everyone knows it happened and you can’t run for it. Certainly don’t glorify it or anything, but it happened. I also don’t want anyone to have to relive any trauma or anything like that.

I also wish someone would pay for all the music that all the companies used so I didn’t have to hear crapty cover 48479202 when watching an old ECW show, but it is what it is.

I'm not in favor of scrubbing anything. I didn't like when they did it for Chris Benoit on the old WWE 24/7 OnDemand service either.

Not a fan of it either. But there’s a near 0 chance they at least don’t add some sort of warning or something.

R-Truth is a national treasure.

Pretty darn fun women’s Rumble right there. Cargill looked like a million bucks. Cool to see Grace and Naomi in there too. Right lady won.

Agreed. R-Truth is still a national treasure too.

Triple H claims he didn't even read the lawsuit. I don't know if I believe that. But if he's under an NDA and can't talk about it, he should have just said that.

It was either gonna be what they did or the whole ‘we don’t comment on pending litigation’ thing companies throw around. Seems like there’s NDAs for days, though.

Vince is also still Triple H’s father in law, and I wonder what Haitch really did or didn’t know and for how long. Might not have wanted to open that up for various reasons.

I dislike the 'scrubbing', whether it's Chris Benoit, Vince McMahon, The General Lee, statues of previous presidents, or Adolph HItler. It's history of varying significance and should be looked at and learned from, not hidden. History doesn't have to be liked to still be what it is. I'm sure much worse stuff goes on in Hollywood and the music industry. Besides, based on the texts, it doesn't look like she was against what was going on so long as it benefitted her.

I thought the Rumble was ok. It was weird seeing Reigns actually win a match for the first time in 3 years. Highly disappointed to see guys like McAfee put in for zero benefit when guys like Gable and Mahal were sitting in the back.....not to mention Orton, Knight, and Styles.

I decided to watch the 2014 Rumble last night...the last one Punk was in. It's fun to note Punk was #1. #2 was Rollins. #4 was Cody Rhodes.


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I don't know how true it is, but McAfee claims he didn't even know he was given a spot in the Royal Rumble. I guess that explains the slight delay before he realized that was his own theme music playing.

This is definitely true. I was watching the Rumble with my nephew and pointed this out every time the buzzer would sound and he'd be like "who is this?" even though he watches almost every week and should know these themes by now, they're just not memorable enough.

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Apparently CM Punk tore his tricep during the Rumble match and needs surgery, with a 3-6 month window for recovery/physical therapy.

If true and not just a random work, that makes 3 major injuries in a year and a half.

Rough.

The guy is snakebit in big matches lately. I wonder if it’s the same arm that he messed up last time.

Bummer he won’t be able to do Mania this year. I was looking forward to him and Seth.

If I didn’t know any better, that MEGA goody two shoes promo and the fact that they put Punk’s arm in direct risk smells awfully “worky” to me. In a world where Punk isn’t really injured, I could see a Zayn vs McIntyre match ending in a Punk heel turn.

I hate every second of that. No way they should turn Punk this soon.

Maybe I'm wrong but isn't the Raw after the Royal Rumble when they usually start announcing Hall Of Fame inductees? Are there even any rumored names? I'm still hoping for Heyman or anyone that will show some love to ECW in Philly. But I digress...

I think they’ve held off until around the February PPV to start announcing due to them going to 5 or so inductees a year the past few years. But yeah they used to announce them a whole lot earlier.

BucketofJustice wrote:

Imo he needs to be heel. He sucks as a face right now. He was even acting sorta heelish in the Rumble. But (having not seen any segment of Raw other than that opening promo) I’m convinced he’s legit injured so I was probably just reading into it too much.

I think he’s better as a heel too. But, he can be a heel later. He’s had 1 match on TV since he returned after 10 years. Give him the babyface run and they can find a way for him to organically turn later on. Since he’s injured it obviously pushes stuff back but it’s too soon even if he was healthy.

I dunno, Punk has been a great face in the past. Similar to SCSA, Punk is the best as a face when he's playing an "anti-hero" role. His face run since returning has been awful mainly because he comes off as a legitimate parody of his past self. If you were to ask for "the opposite of CM Punk" at anytime between 2003-2013 (and then 2021-2023 by default), it's 2024 CM Punk -- matches or not. It's the character. He's acting the exact way that he had been criticizing his entire career until November 2023. It would, in my opinion, only be worth it if this whole thing was revealed as a (kayfabe) ruse -- that he was just playing the crowd/management the entire time to get his spot back.

Punk is the ONE guy who could have returned to WWE as the "angel of death" type heel and believably make it work. WWE has thus far booked his character to feel like satire. It hasn't been good, at least to me.

I say in 6 months time, book Cody (who will be WWE champion by this point) to beat Drew. Have Drew beat down Cody post-match. Punk returns, makes it seem like he's making good on his promise to gun for Drew first, but then turn on Cody. Set that crap up for WM41, with Cody the clear babyface and CM Punk the "devil," who would have played the greatest trick: convincing the world he didn’t exist. And I know that Baudelaire quote from one single CM Punk ROH promo has been done to death... but it would still make more narrative sense than the whole "glad-handing nonsensical douchebag yes-man" gimmick that he's currently parading for ol' Triple H.

I kinda question if it's a legit injury based on Drew stomping him the other day. These things aren't new for WWE, with even recently, Rollins was wrestling with a 'broken back'. I recall a time when a title holder would drop their title right away after 'losing their smile'.

It seems ok to see Andrade back in WWE. Hopefully they do something with him. His last bit of time in AEW was very good, but mostly forgettable/almost non-existent before that. Apparently Malakai Black and Buddy Matthews intend to return to WWE, as well. Matthews hasn't done a thing in AEW, and, honestly, nothing amazing in WWE, either....but the guy can definitely put on an amazing match. Black started off hot there but went into obscurity as soon as Cody left.

Is it just me or does Kairi Saine not seem too 'into' her role and matches in WWE? She seemed much better before and NJPW in the stuff I saw her in. Asuka seems to have lost a lot of momentum lately, too. Is Iyo still alive?

AEW's been doing some cool stuff with a few performers over there. I stick by my earlier comment that they need more TV time to showcase some of the others. This whole 'hot for a few weeks' then disappearing act for months is exhausting...but the storylines have improved a bit....a bit more cohesiveness would be nice.

Luchasaurus/Killswitch (both stupid names) needs a makeover. Excellent ring work. He seemed ok in a tag team.....even though his partner kinda sucked.....but the dinosaur thing screams mental illness more than cool. It might be fun to see him and Brian Cage as a team with a strong mouthpiece and just stomp everyone. Brian Cage kinda seems like he could be the lovechild of Animal and Hawk.

The 'other' Cage in AEW has been doing the best stuff of his career lately. It seems like a wiser decision for Copeland to join Cage than the other way around. Copeland's stuff in AEW (and his last WWE run)....absolutely boring.