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Welp fudge that guy and props to the police lady who killed him.

Yep, it's all over the news. People are crazy anymore

Obviously the only solution is to ban knives. They should have a knife buyback program.

Knew it wouldn’t be long until someone popped in with that strawman.

Single shot to the chest, huh

Either Australians are good shots or we are bad.

Porksta wrote:

Imagine if he had a AR...

A lone female cop killed him with a single shot..because he only had a knife.

If this was the US there would be protests over excessive force. Kudos to the cop. Rot in hell dirt bag. Prayers to the actual victims. Heart breaking to read about the mom losing her life trying to save her infant.

KCPenguins wrote:

A cop shooting someone who is on a murder spree and already killed six people? You are out of your mind if you think there would be protests in the US over that.

They absolutely would. Remember, step one is to have a social worker attempt to talk the person down. You can't just go straight to deadly force.



/s (if it wasn't obvious)

Porksta wrote:

Sorry but no. If it's a hostage situation that's one thing but it someone is actively murdering people, I'm pretty sure every armed first responder is trained that unless you are at an elementary school in Texas, the absolute first priority is to neutralize the threat.

And 99.9% of America would be totally OK with this.

Porksta wrote:

It wasn't straight to deadly force. He murdered people and lunged at the officer. The officer took one shot and ended it, all on camera.

These sorts of exaggerated suggestions -- that exist solely to "stick it" to people sick of mass shootings -- truly only work to make this sort of argument hold even less weight than it already did. Nonsensical and entirely unnecessary.

@Porksta Isn't negotiation only a part of the procedure if there's like a gunman holding many hostages? Rather than this kinda random madman impaling people...

I think that previous users pretty much pointed out the same thing. Lethal force is the FIRST thing if there's a psycho like Ghostface in the vicinity. Persuading him not to do it is OUT OF THE QUESTION!

Damn, wasn't even sure if the /s on my post was necessary. I put it just in case and just got three posts in a row that overlooked it lol.

The comment was a joke referencing how a couple years ago much of America thought social workers should be used in place of police officers.

Porksta wrote:

We saw it (I did anyway). I ignored it because it didn't change the intent of your post.


Most situations where police currently get involved aren't active murder sites. So in many situations, I think a social worker or a mental health professional would probably do more good than a police officer, based on my perception of their relative training and skillsets.

benstylus wrote:

there sure as hell wasn't when a guy i knew shot up my town and two others before he offed himself

Porksta wrote:

I didn’t overlook it, your post was just on par with opinions you’ve shared in the past. Just pointless cynicism. Your explanation sorta backs that up considering the idea wasn’t suggesting to outright “replace” police officers with social workers in all instances across the board, you just chose to take it that way.

benstylus wrote:

What makes you say that a 'mental health pro' is somehow more effective than a negotiator? Isthere evidence? Curious...

ft763 wrote:

I would say a trained crisis negotiator would be appropriate if it's a high risk situation. (As a side note, they would more then likely have quite a bit of mental health training as well).

But most interactions currently handled by police in the US are far more mundane than active murderers, hostage situations, or other scenarios where the likelihood of life-threatening violence is high.

Here's a story out of Denver about using mental health people for nonviolent emergency calls.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/denvers-menta...

Thank you, much appreciated

Mental health is a strawman. This is a knife problem.

KCPenguins wrote:

It's sarcasm like this that makes me want to stab the internet.

"What are you going to do, Stab me"?

Yeah this wasn't excessive force. Sometimes there is no other choice but to take someone down by any means necessary.

benstylus wrote:


I'd rather unplug it.

'...you wanna know why I like to use knives?....in their last moments, people show you their TRUE colours!'

The Dark Knight?

👍

Maybe that's why that psycho loves impaling people...who knows??

Ugh

Let's work on morality. Be good to people. If they need help, don't be a dick. I've seen it so many times that people with mental conditions are ignored or admonished. It's really sad. Help each other.

KCPenguins wrote:

Hell yeah. Goes without saying, for most level-headed folks. Working with my sister’s mentally challenged son has helped me really understand the spectrum. It’s sad, but can be very triumphant on the good days. He’s a great fudgein kid. However, he shouldn’t be dragged into this.

Regulate guns properly so that those who aren’t mentally equipped, here — in our country — don’t get access to them. Truly not too much to ask. That is definitively where the shooting issues begin. Mental health issues exist everywhere, America isn’t special.

Two issues can exist at the same time. It’s here, in the US where the two issues at hand compound one another. At some point, something’s gotta give and we can’t keep burying our heads forever.

Regardless, this wasn’t a conversation about guns until it became an easy potshot. Let’s send out good vibes to the families of folks who lost their loved ones in this wild bullcrap. I’ll accept the negs if they translate to a positive thought for those grieving. Also, love you folks & hope you’re doing well.

@Jaw makes absolute sense to ban guns if people are mentally unwell. At least for those who are psycho.

Hell you know what we need? Thing that REALLY works is that technology in Sky fall. Bonds pistol NEVER fires unless it's HIS finger print on the handle.

I realise it's gonna cost an absurd amount, but if the government employs the same finger print scanning system, only police force members and armed forces would be able to use their weapons without fear of other unauthorised psychopaths turning the firearms against their ORIGINAL user.

Random trivia: this technology is also what is used in Alex Rider novel 'Scorpia', employed by security guards who are assigned to Mrs Jones apartment.

Yet another knife attack. Australia needs to implement some common sense knife control.

Ya and it seems that he had carefully made plots for this...https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/crime/joe...

Yo listen up a SECOND mass attack happened at a religious gathering! https://au.yahoo.com/news/bishop-allegedly-stabbed...

Porksta wrote:

Yah, after two! Imagine if they happened every day for years!? Would be CRAZY!

Positive thoughts for the victims here. This crap is awful.

ft763 wrote:

The problem is a lot of cops shouldn’t have guns either

...so are you saying that police members are ALSO 'psycho'??

ft763 wrote:

Absolutely there are a goodly number of cops who are in it for the power trip

Ya didn't realise that too. Thanks for pointing that out
I would say ticket inspectors in Victoria are definite douchebags!

Bet they literally get a farkin' orgasm from issuing penalties to innocent customers

A few bad apples... The police by and large are good and try to do the right thing. I've never had a bad interaction even when pulled over under false pretenses, but then again I don't act like a lunatic or idiot in those circumstances and I don't have anything else to hide. Some people just don't have common sense.

The entitlement of saying that it doesn't happen to me so therefore the problem doesn't exist..