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Been playing for awhile now probably about 6 hours. I can't get over how much this feels like D3 to me. There are some differences for sure, I like how you can be playing and there is a bunch of people in your game instead of creating parties like in past games, it feels very MMO lite. I think D3 did a few things better for example how it plays on a console, D3 felt smoother and took almost no time to get used to the controls. D4 does however feel more fleshed out if you will and I am really liking it! Also has anyone noticed that it kinda feels like some of the smaller dungeons are assets taken right from D3? Kind of like how COD used to reuse assets from game to game... My only real gripe with the the game right now is the crazy talent tree.. It feels overly complex for no reason.

Complex talent trees went away a decade ago… and they’re trying again. It’s cumbersome.

And I think D3 was much more fun on consoles so far. It was Diablo arcade for sure.

I am enjoying D4, There are elements I really like and I fully feel like this game was worth the price take (so far), it however does make me me appreciate D3 a little more even though I did not mind it to begin with.. never really understood the hate.

That reminds me, I started out on PC with D3, then one day for a game night, a bunch of us couch co-op D3 on the Xbox... It was kind of fun doing that, playing co-op with others in person. I don't remember how far we got but I think we got pretty far.

I haven't played D3 more since I restarted it, mostly because of my adult life, but I'm definitely going to play more of it.

Does D4 take place after events of D3 or is this separate??

I like the versatility of the talent tree but the UI is just awful. Was really hoping that'd see some tlc post beta. Give some damn rows and columns... Not a scrolling turd.

HybridCRoW wrote:

They're more or less in sequential order. 4 follows 3 follows 2 follows 1. They lightly reference D1/D2 moving forward but 3 feels very detached from the mythos in general, the only thing that stuck is that (far in as I've been) Cain's still dead. No references to the Nephalem yet, I guess they fudgeed off!

DarkFact wrote:
Diablo Immortal also has Cain. which is inbetween 2 and 3.

Diablo 4 takes place decades after the events of Reaper of Souls. Though Malthael's plans were foiled, the Angel of Death exacted a terrible toll on humanity. Sanctuary suffered great devestation. Entire populations were decimated, cities ravaged, and Heaven itself suffered great losses, causing them to shutter their gates. You can imagine what that does to people -- religious schisms, famine, war... basically humanity left to its own devices. It's against this backdrop of despair when Lilith returns.

Got the Collectors Box today. Bigger and heavier than anticipated. At $100, overall, I'd say it's worth it. The candle is pretty cool!

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That Lilith statue is pretty badass. But I bet its cheap as plastic though isn't it. They always give you the cheapest thing they can make for CE statues. That use to piss me off when I use to buy them.

Archer wrote:

No, it's insanely well made ... and like 25lbs. It's one of my favorites.

Ok, Light Sorc after overflowing energy ... is just insanely op'd with AoE and stuns/cooldowns.

MrBean wrote:

Nice.

MrBean wrote:

That super melts bosses in seconds once you get their stun bar filled. It just hits with so much in such short amount of time.
EDIT: NEVER MIND. I thought you meant unstable currents, the super skill.

Archer wrote:

Oh yeah, unstable is insane ... but the combo of static discharge, shocking impact, overflowing energy, and unstable ... is just ... almost silly. Game just insanely easy (for now). I just stun everything while walking around, recasting lighting spear, and proc'ing additional spears. It's, bonkers.

Once you get later into the game you will want (actually its mandatory for WT3 and 4) the defensive ice skill, frost nova. It is the most powerful sorc skill in the game. And its a defensive skill. It absolutely destroys. It sends out a massive ice blast around you freezing everything. And making things that you don't shatter with your lightening vulnerable for 3 seconds. Vulnerable CC enemies take 20%x damage. Its also the only source of vulnerable for sorc that is consistent. And vulnerable is a must in higher world tiers. Its the only debuff (crowd control ailment) enemies don't have a 40% resistance too.

Archer wrote:
I always find these games are problematic for that reason. Only certain builds work on the highest difficulty making everything else irrelevant. Necromancer summons are worthless making bone based builds better. Rogue's ranged abilities are decent but melee builds have better DPS. Barb shouts help party mates and whirlwind is strong. Etc. I would prefer if all builds are viable even if some are stronger then others.

ued222 wrote:

Not just the skills, but the unique and the gear drops all funnel you into specific play styles in the later game as well. Like they only want you to play that way. Its bizarre.

Played everything enough to understand the mechanics and get the class trophies. I want to main rogue to 100 and hardcore the sorcerer. It is just unfair how much damage mitigation that sorcerer has. And that fire wall enchantment is prolly best skill in game- prevents a death every 2 minutes. Wow. Rogue is the most fun for me. Necromancer is ridiculous.

Ahhhh, the mount makes this so much better!

Feeb wrote:

I have tried necro yet. Ridiculous in a good or bad way?

Shane12m wrote:

He’s a dirty rockstar with a horde of groupies - and there can be a silly number of them following. Also the siphon move and bone spear are so OP for quite awhile. It looks cool but feels very shallow to me. I named him Stankonia.

I have not seen many Druids... It may not be the best but I am having fun with it. Again I have to touch on the main story is roughly 35hours long. I feel like this is the biggest improvement to be honest. Its right up there with D2's main story ( 30 hours I believe) of course this is not the time it would take to 100% everything... Just a Huge leap IMO over D3. I still can't believe I have roughly 6-7 hours in the game and I am not out of Act 1... I am very close but dang. in D3 I could get out of Act 1 at lvl 17... I am right now lvl 22 I think I will probably hit 25 by the time it's done.

Looking at the trophies I think I will get my plat on this, I doubt it's going to give me Diablo burnout like 3 did... The biggest thing with it is I don't see I have to max lvl every character out and one in hardcore. D4 basically needs me to max lvl 1 character in normal and Hardcore and just a bunch of class type ones that you could get while lvling but not hitting max... I believe I am going to look at it again now.

Also do the enemies scale with your lvl? I had to go back to the starting area and noticed that they all were at or around my lvl, this is pretty cool if that is the case.

MrBean wrote:

Its dumb how far into the story its gated to get it honestly.

Finn wrote:

Yes, every enemy scales to a certain point. Which is locked by area location and world tier. But they will always be with in a couple levels of you, or right at your level.

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