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Nothing hard about remembering patterns. It’s just persistence and discipline. These games are not difficult.

Feeb wrote:

Agreed. They have their moments, but the only real difficulty is understanding the story and side quests.

It’s all about being methodical and memorizing enemy patterns, yup. I think I’m gonna invest in a sorcery build on my NG+. Right now I’m quality. My INT is already 20 though so I might as well dump more points into it and mind once I hit NG+. Especially since I already got the best sorcery swords and staff in the game.

New update today nerfs Bloodhound Step, Corpse Piler, and a few other skills. It also allows progression through Varre's quest completely offline along with a few other odds and ends. Full patch notes:

https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden...

Gypsy wrote:

Fully leveled ultra great sword build with high strength interrupts them on each hit. 2x jumping R2 = staggered, then crit attack them in the face when they are staggered, and then any hit will finish them off. If I had a few more points in strength they would die after the crit. Flame of the Redmane also staggers them after 2 hits I believe. Eazy peazy, though it honestly gets boring after awhile.

Normal mobs are pretty easy with this build, but the bosses are generally a female dog since you can't stagger them so easily.

I wish there was more robust PVP elements to this game as that's where I have the most fun. I hope the DLC enhances this. After the 500th time you invade people it kind of gets boring and predictable.

Note: invading people right before boss fights while they are sitting around trying to summon 2 people, particular in boss fights where people are in a corridor.. and then spamming flame of the redmane to 1 shot or 2 shot almost every body is good for some cheap fun. >:D

Would be cool to do true team based pvp, like 3 on 3.

Or imagine having like 10 invaders and 10 protectors and 1 host who is a helpless 'civilian' with no armor or weapons (maybe just a mediocre shield) -- and protectors must escort the host to the end point. Chaos and hilarity would ensue.

Snappy wrote:

Flame of the Redmanes can be tricky sometimes because the first hit doesn't bother them. I've used that to stagger all sorts of enemies, though, and it's still fun to me because of how absurd it is. Crucibles just get caught in the pre-patch Corpse Piler buzzsaw now, so they aren't really an issue for me anymore. I get that the game is tuned for PVP, but I'm going to miss my OP weapon. After 120 hours I'm kind of done baiting enemies out one at a time and just want to mow them down and move on.

I stopped that AUTO update

Need another Dragon Somber for my Dual Weld Rivers of Blood.

Forgot the swords I last used to keep it fun but they had fun jump attack animation. Aided with jumping + bleed talisman and crow armor.

Used Tree Crucible Armor for the Elden Beast.

I personally liked changing up my builds to find the right mix for me. Tried near all the sorcery and incantations, didnt care to have sorcery as my main.

Have not played since I beat it a 2nd time, didnt go NG+ (3) I skipped a bunch 2nd rd so when I go back will clean all that up.

Bring on the DLC!

What's the advantage of a dual RoB? I thought weapon art spam is the main dps source.

Orlandu wrote:

You can only use the weapon art from main hand, correct. But if you have two identical weapons you can power stance them in dual wield (L1, LB) for special move sets combos on regular attacks.

I guess my question was why RoB versus another arcane scaled katana, since it's a split damage weapon.

Archer wrote:

Yes, but they don’t have to be identical weapons just the same weapon type :)

Scavengers curved sword was the last ones i was dual welding, Bloodhound step and Raptors of the Mist Ashes.

@Orlandu Pretty sure I was dual welding ROB for the attack power and looks. Once you level up and I was on my 2nd play through, looks play a part in picking weapons and armor.

I have all the katanas leveled up most all the way and played around with them all. Used Uchigatana Unsheath 1st game 1st half just to survive LOL, so I needed to try other stuff. Dualed it with Nagakiba

I feel like the only one that always has a shield in the off hand. I do try to dodge everything, but I always have my shield up in case I don't catch a few of the surprises. Probably saved a ton of deaths and is the only reason I got Moonveil.

Bloodborne ruined me on shields.

Orlandu wrote:

I tried shield but I may be the worst at parring. Even with think it was called golden parry ash. Parry is an easy way to deal with crucible knights is why I tried but I just never worked for me.

Moonveil I enjoyed used around the time I was using Bloodhound fang and I just kept going back to Bloodhound Fang for the power and move set.

I know its not the same as a shield but Raptor of the Mist is pretty slick.

I was never good at parrying either. Half the time I forget the retaliation attack that you can do after a block. I just used a 100% physical block shield (inverted hawk heater I think was the name) and put the "no skill" ash on it so it didn't interfere with my weapon ash of war. Raptor of the Mists sounds really useful for nulling a big attack, though.

I may have to try a Bloodhound Fang run since I kept my system offline for that patch. Unfortunately I missed the patch the carries over the smithing stone bells so I'll have to stock up a bit before going to the next cycle.

I suck at parrying too. I carry a shield on my back only for the carrion perk that repels spell projectiles but any time I have to fight a crucible knight if I go for the parry’s I get my ass handed to my most of the time unless I 2 hand my bloodhound fang and give him the business.

After 140ish hours (and some save-scumming for endings) I finally Platinumed this game. Pretty neat final boss, but the fight itself was a little underwhelming. I used 3 defensive talismans (physical, holy, and elemental) and the one that boosts skill damage by 15%. I also used the Uplifting Aromatic and kept re-applying it between major hits. I never used perfumes before this fight, but wow are they useful. This was by far the most enjoyable entry in the Souls series for me, warts and all.

Orlandu wrote:

Nice. Well done. You had a plan that worked.

Feeb wrote:

Thank you! Usually I muddle through or fail spectacularly on the first fight. I guess that "final boss" label made me prepare a bit more than normal.

It's pretty neat when the Mimic Tear decides to use the perfume, too.

Full str build in DS3 ... has been a dream, way easier than casting.

I get to the first DLC (which I've never played before), holy f'ing crap I wish I had some spells. This is brutal ... gosh darn wolves and trees!

MrBean wrote:


Oh yeah. Those DS3 DLC bosses are some of the hardest of Fromsoft to solo imho.

Feeb wrote:

Man, I haven't even gotten to the bosses yet in the Painted World ... jesus christ. I've died more in the last hour than I did in the last 30 hours! Fudge this place!

Spiked mace with blood loss build up and Hp regain for STR builds? Thoughts? I’m at 51 dex now but my STR is already a 36. Tempted

Up! So this will also be a souls-like topic. Other developers try but rarely do we actually get a decent clone.



Good:

Mortal Shell
Thymesia
Remnant: From the Ashes (I'm playing this one again, I swear I will beat it!)

Bad:
The Surge 1/2
Dolmen
Hellpoint

Haven't played yet:

Lords of the Fallen. I won't bother, it's the same people who made The Surge so I doubt it's good.

Ashen.

Steelrising. This one looks promising, hopefully. Comes out tomorrow. Made by Spiders. Greedfall was.... okay, I guess.

Steelrising has an assist mode, but it disables Trophies.

I played the beta/demo from pre-ording Steelrising. Its, okay. Didn't play much of it though. Decided I liked it enough to wait for the full release.

Also Lords of the Fallen is slow as crap and janky like Moral Shell. They are the same game.

Ashen is the best of the bunch listed up there however.

Lords of the Fallen, I just can't give it a shot since it's the same people who made The Surge. And Mortal Shell was good. You probably didn't give it long enough to figure out the shell mechanic.

Thats because I finished Lords of the Fallen. And then after a couple hours of Mortal Shell I was like, I'm not doing this again. This crap is too slow.

Code Vein was decent. Some cheese to it, overall pretty easy, but I remember having a good time with hit.

Oh, that one. I gave it 2 hours. Something felt off about it.

Anime dark souls didn't click with me either.

Also Good : Nioh, Code Vein, Salt and Sanctuary and sequel plus most other 2d souls are good, Jedi FO

Just ok- FF origins.

Not for me- everything else.

JFO is too janky. Not really a Souls-like.

It’s widely accepted as souls like. You spend souls at a bonfire between difficult segments.

Have you tried 3000th Duel? It’s not perfect, but I had fun with it on Steam Deck. It’s a soulslike 2-D platformer Metroidvania.

Kommie wrote:

No. I know a lot of 2-D games get lumped in the genre like Hollow Knight, Salt and Sanctuary but I'm not really counting those in the discussion from my end.

Hollow Knight and Blasphemous fit to a degree if you're including non-3D.

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:

I’d say souls like is any game with a gamble between spending a currency at a safe point to gain stats and resetting foes or daring to continue on at a risk of loss. Regardless of how that mechanic is portrayed.