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Ouch, I had a feeling it would be at least $500.

Considering many are still struggling to get the $500 console, which is required to use the VR2, I don't see this selling as well as Sony hopes.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested in it, but I absolutely won't be an early adopter. I just picked up a Meta Quest 2 a few months back, and plan to play that for a while.

Does anyone know if Sony confirmed backwards compatibility with the older PSVR games? I would assume they work, but wouldn't be surprised to see Sony strip it of backwards compatibility.

So far the Horizon game is what has me most intrigued.

It’s not backwards compatible, but that doesn’t bother me. I’m just going to keep my PSVR too.

https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/23356951/psvr...

I think $549.99 is pretty reasonable for the specs. Current VR headsets that match or exceed this are $1000+. When the PSVR launched, it cost $50 more than the PS4 (just like how this is $50 more than the PS5). (PSVR was $399.99 vs $349.99 at that point for the PS4). This is a day one purchase for me if I can get it. I’ve had money saved up specifically for it for years.

PSVR games are not backwards compatible with the new PSVR2,

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/09/17/...

Looks like they’re only available via direct.playstation.com, you have to register and be selected (criteria unknown), and it’s one PSVR2 per Sony ID. Nice pushback against bots, but now I’m legit concerned that I won’t be able to get one.

Oof, I didn't expect it to be cheap, but at that price I'm very likely not getting one at launch.
An announcement of an Astro Bot sequel might have helped to convince me I need this day one though. How did they not think to have a sequel ready for launch?

The games aren't currently compatible but word is that many will be patched to work. Either way I'm registered and excited for this.

PS4 VR always makes me nauseous, I think due to the blur effect when moving (ex: Farpoint was really bad). Does newer VR technology reduce the blurring/nauseating effect?

sa330206 wrote:

Farpoint is probably the only game that I experienced this with, and maybe a little bit of the Robinson project. Most games don’t have that effect.

Too pricy for me at launch, but will get down the line for sure. Not into being an early adopter

Hard pass.

sa330206 wrote:

Unfortunately some people will never be able to handle VR. Sometimes the more you play the better it gets but I know people that can't handle it at all. Better resolution, fps, etc definitely does help. It also could be the style of games. My wife can only really handle the diorama style games where you manipulate what's in front of you but stay stationary. Anything with movement, even the teleport and snap movement is too much for her. If you are sensitive you can start with stuff like Moss, Ghost Giant, and Statik and see how you do. Then move to stuff with snap and teleport movement and then to full motion FPS games.

Wow that was quick, just got my invite too

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So I guess I am screwed when it comes to pre ordering.

Sony did say they plan to have 2 million of these ready to go in time for launch, so hopefully it won't be that hard to find for the people that really want one. I think scalpers might back off a bit because it's still a niche thing anyway and no guarantee they'll be able to resell it.

Yeah, I agree. I just want to make sure. Sony is going to pump the market full of PS5s this holiday season. GameStop even has some reasonable bundles you can get same with the Source (Canada thing) it's not nearly as hard to get one now.

PS5 is in stock (not Canada) on PS Dierct right now - MW2 Bundle. They're easier to get online but I still have yet to see one in a store to buy.

I think $550 is a fair price when you compare it to other VR headsets and the current state of PS5/XSX pricing. It's still a niche item but for those that like VR it's going to be great. I'm definitely interested but am going to wait until there is a larger game library for it.

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Nearest competitor is $1500

sefjwm wrote:

Damn nice! Anyone else get this email yet?

I got it too.

MrBean wrote:

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:

Who was the sender? Wanna make sure I didn't delete it but don't think I got it.

It came from PlayStation with the e-mail: email@email.playstation.com

The title was: PlayStation® VR2 | Bleed_DukeBlue, your chance to pre-order

Thanks, definitely doesn't look like I received it.

I need to see the official list of launch games. I am excited and interested. However, I have spent plenty on a combination of PS1, PS2, Wii, and 3DS games. So I'm not in dire need of new entertainment to buy.

So I just watched a recent PSVR2 video and saw that the Rush of Blood developers basically released a spiritual successor call The Dark Pictures Switchback VR. Guess I'm on board day one now! Lol, since I really did love that game. It's like a haunted house mine cart ride.

I will be able to pre-order on the 15th. Time to sell my Series X.

Why does this need the single USB-C cable when all the others PC VRs are wireless?

You can generally get better image quality (and sometimes latency) wired than wireless. Even the wireless PCVR options can go wired into a PC for these reasons.

sa330206 wrote:

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:

Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. I wasn't even thinking about the battery component.

The devs have confirmed Swordsman VR will be a launch title for PSVR2. I haven't played it myself, but I've had it in my wish list and intended to get it on the original PSVR, but might as well wait now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiAwMr7BQBo

Zenith is also coming to PSVR2. This is another game I had planned to get on PSVR, but will just wait until I get PSVR2. It's a VR MMORPG.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQs0t33BuxE

The devs for Zenith: The Last City, The Light Brigade, and Pistol Whip have said that if you have the PSVR version, you can get the PSVR2 one for free. I bet there will be more. (Possibly After the Fall.)

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

Still haven't gotten the email...

MMORPGs ain't really something I have a lot of interest in, but I kinda wanted to buy Zenith just to support the devs and show we want more than just wave shooters (seriously, there's too many low budget and low effort wave shooters on PSVR, I dunno if it's the same on PC VR).

With how much this is going to cost, I really hope we start getting VR games that last more than an hour or two as well. that's one of my biggest complaints with PSVR is how short so many of the games are, they shouldn't be charging $20-$30 for games that you beat in one session.
Stuff like Resident Evil 7, Skyrim VR and Borderlands 2 VR were far too uncommon on the original PSVR and would even be missing features (Borderlands is best played multiplayer but in VR it was only single player). Give us more full-blown AAA games with VR modes.

I agree. There are some good longer games coming soonish though. The new Horizon game has a story and is (I heard) something like 7-12 hours long. We’re also getting Resident Evil 4 Remake and RE: Village in VR. Also, The Walking Dead: Saints and Sinners 2.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

Pre-orders just went live early! I snagged a bundle with Horizon: Call of the Mountain and got the controller charger. It was really smooth. They have multiple puzzles you complete (to keep the bots out) and then you log in with your PSN. It was quick and easy.

Got my order in! So excited :)

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:

i never pre registered bc I didn't remember my UN PW is there a link?

So I registered, did both of you get an e-mail or did you go to some webpage?

I got an e-mail. It went to my spam folder though, so you might want to check that. Once you get the e-mail, you can click on the personalized link to log-in and submit your pre-order. It puts you in a queue and then tells you when it's your turn. My queue was initially an hour, but then it updated after a few minutes and let me in.

ErickRPG wrote:

Yah mine was in spam too

Glad you got your e-mail!

MrBean wrote:

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:

Probably woulda been better not to. So many expenses and dumb crap on the way (black friday) timing is rough with this one to convince the wife not to murder me... Haha

MrBean wrote:

The email they sent after the order states that they don’t charge until they ship so maybe that’s better for ya?

Do you guys think there's a chance of Sony making previous VR titles backward compatible? The small library of PSVR games I've already collected would definitely incentivize getting the new one.

I know they confirmed there isn't any at launch, but do you think it's something Sony might add down the road, or just expect people to re-purchase PSVR2 compatible versions like they are with Swordsman?

Some titles are getting free PSVR2 upgrades (After the Fall, No Man's Sky) at launch.

Frank wrote:

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:

That's good to know! I guess if/when I decide the time is right, I'll have to check my library to see how many will be supported.

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:

Ok but I had to change my playstation user account email since it was on an old email I no longer have access too. So they MIGHT have emailed that, and I didn't change it until after I submitted for a pre-order, I did again when I changed my e-mail. But that was AFTER they already went on sale. I have a feeling I will miss out on this one.

Sorry man. For what it’s worth, I saw that they have pre-orders up in Canada at Best Buy, so they might open up at other places here eventually.

ErickRPG wrote:

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:

I'll hold out hope. But if I miss out, I will stubbornly not buy any video games for several months (not like I need to) and then end up building up my bank account due to my angry stubbornness. So it will work out either way, lol.

ErickRPG wrote:

Alternatively, I could see you using that money towards funding a complete Gex collection.

Frank wrote:

Or a near complete Call of Duty Collection. Ohhhhh, . . me. I actually have all 3 gex games mint complete now and playing Enter the Gecko. Great games!

ErickRPG wrote:

Do you have them on all platforms? I just have 1 and 3 on gameboy and 1 on PS1.

Frank wrote:

I'm more of a streamlined collector. So like with that Tactics Ogre remaster coming out, I think I prefer the PSP version, so I will buy that. No double dipping in other words. If you mean the GB ones are a bit different, then what I mean by streamlined is I just want to own and play the ones I consider the best of the series. And that's Gex 2 and Gex 3 IMO.

ErickRPG wrote:

My GF grew up playing it on 3DO and claims that one to be superior. Meanwhile I grew up with the first game on Game Boy.

I think Gex actually originated on the 3DO didn't it? THEN it was ported to PS1. I mean it's ok with Dana Gould's quips but it's not a very fun 2D platformer. the two 3D platformers are my jam though.

ErickRPG wrote:

Yep I also believe 3DO was the initial release.

I need to track down one of the 3D ones to try out. 3D platformers are my jam!

Frank wrote:
It's a PS1 platformer so go in with realistic expectations. It's no mario or banjo. Heck it's not even a Crash. But the lame quips make it a unique game. The variety of themed areas are pretty nice.

So what games you all getting at launch? Horizon is a no brainer but I like the look and style of Tentacular. Cosmonious High is from the vacation sim people so definitely getting that as well.

I got the Horizon bundle and pre-ordered The Light Brigade (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved...).

Very likely not getting one at launch, but if I were, Horizon and the Rush of Blood sequel would be bought alongside it for sure. I haven't looked at what else is available at launch.

sefjwm wrote:

I haven’t looked at any of the launch games besides what was shown during the state of play. I’ll probably grab a bunch of them. I’m starved for some high quality VR games

i would get the base model, and then switchback vr and no man's sky. Don't need Horizon at launch.

Next batch of PSVR 2 invites going out early December. I just registered on the PlayStation Direct site. I definitely don’t need this and I’m not sure I even want it, but I’ll probably get it and have it sit in the corner and gather dust like the first PSVR.

https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2022/11/29/ho...

I'll probably pickup a PSVR2 when they drop the price for the first time.

I'll probably get mine ASAP. I want to play Switchback VR. But if I have to wait a few months to get it, I'll manage, lol.

Got my order in now. Very Excited to play Switchback VR ASAP.

I got the barebones model I think I just have an OCD or pet peeve about wanting a "base model" and not one tied to a game, since I keep all my system boxes. I can spend that $50 on the horror minecart VR game any way.

Nice!

ErickRPG wrote:

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:

Yep, I'm sure we'll all come back here and give our impressions. I know I will!

I was late to the game with PSVR1 and finally got a v2 model in December 2021. I went in pretty hard and bought/traded for 20 games and played 18 of them within the last 12 months. I now understand the limitations, but am still a fan of how it all works. Excited for PSVR2, but will wait until there is more than 2 games I want to play (Horizon and Switchback VR).

Still trying to find another processer unit V2 so I can switch the headset between rooms

Yeah I'm waiting for a bigger PSVR2 library too. I have way too many unplayed original PSVR games to keep me busy until then, including a couple I just bought last week. I'd be lying if I said I'm not at least a little tempted to just pre-order it just for the sake of pre-ordering it, but that'd just be dumb...even though I'm no stranger to doing dumb things.

I hope they make Rush of Blood compatible. But I think with Horizon, Switchback VR, and No Man's Sky I'm going to have tons of fun with PSVR2. it's higher res, I think they increased the field of view slightly, and it's got all sorts of neat stuff like finger tracking, better motion tracking, haptic feedback on the controllers and helmet. So it's gonna be fun!

You can preorder the PSVR2 now without an invite. You just need a PSN account: https://direct.playstation.com/en-us/playstation-v...

ErickRPG wrote:

Don’t forget eye tracking. That should be a huge game changer for Vr

Shane12m wrote:

True, will help to have better graphics while still having 4K at the point you are focusing. Then there are all sorts of cool stuff. Like you can have an interaction with a commander or interrogator that tells you to look them in the eye. And react differently depending if you do or not.

One thing I thought about the haptic feedback in the headset. It will be perfect for making you feel that soft trickle of rain on your forehead.

(I know, ho hum, Eric is talking about physical again) but I hope Horizon and Switchback VR have physical releases. I'd like to start a little VR section on my shelf.

I prefer physical for everything too, but VR is the one exception for me, because 1) it's more annoying having to switch discs when there's a headset involved (as small an issue as that is) and 2) there are a lot of VR games that never get a physical version or are much cheaper digital.

ErickRPG wrote:

https://blog.playstation.com/2022/12/14/fantavisio...

bunch of Japanese game announcements. Fireworks game in VR? SOLD!

Resident Evil 8's VR mode will be free DLC on 2/22
https://blog.playstation.com/2022/12/14/resident-e...

Awesome! I'll be rebuying that now...

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

sefjwm wrote:

oh yell yeah, I'm up for a new Fantavision VR game! The original is still on my buy and replay list for my PS2.

Looking over the list of all known PSVR2 titles announced so far and I still can't help but feel like they are missing something by not having a new PlayStation VR Worlds sequel. It was basically the PSVR equivalent to Wii Sports back in the day, as in it was the best way to show off your headset when friends and family were visiting, especially that underwater cage dive experience.

Here's the list btw, updated as of December 20
https://www.roadtovr.com/every-game-playstation-vr...

I just cancelled my pre order.

$600+ for one game and a dust collector just doesn't feel worth it... For now. Will revisit later.

30 games announced for launch, impressive.

13 new games announced
https://blog.playstation.com/2023/01/19/playstatio...

Decided to bite the bullet tonight but it wouldn't let me. It said I hit the product limit already, which is silly. Guess I'm waiting for a sale.

My day 1 game list so far: Horizon, Cosmonious High, Moss Collection, Tentacular, What the Bat, The Last Clockwinder

Maybe - Fantavision, Puzzling Places. Star Wars, Jurassic World, The Last Worker

The Dark Pictures: Switchback VR got hit with a last minute delay and will now be releasing on March 16th.

The Walking Dead Saints & Sinners is getting a free upgrade to PSVR2 version, that includes if you had gotten the game free via PlayStation+.

Triple post
I think one thing that would make me get a PSVR2 sooner than I otherwise would have, is if they put some PSVR2 games in the Game Catalog for PS+ Extra/Premium subscribers. It's disappointing that they currently neglect the original PSVR with the exception of a few games offered in the Ubisoft+ section.

Nice! I was planning on playing that soon, so thanks for the heads up.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

IGN was really impressed by Gran Turismo 7 in VR.
https://www.ign.com/videos/gran-turismo-7-vr-is-in...

Also, upcoming system update will let you filter your game library to easily find PSVR/PSVR2 titles among the non-VR games. This should have been available since day one because there are many VR games I've bought but forgotten about because it's a pain in the ass finding them unless they have "VR" in their title. And you'll be able to update the VR2 Sense controllers wirelessly.

That’s helpful. I just have a big spreadsheet with all of my games in it (physical and digital), and one of the columns is VR. I just put yes or no and then PSVR2 in the rows that apply. Then, I sort by that column to see what I have in VR.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

This looks pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afaJWz70pSw

For anyone that pre-ordered, looks like Sony is sending out emails to let you know you'll be getting billed by the 17th.

I pre-ordered. But on my paypal it said cancelled? But it could be some sort of pre-autorization thing? I never got an email from sony that my pre-order was CANCELLED or anything.

So I guess I'll just kinda hang back, if I don't get mine, I'll just have to wait til it's in stock for non pre-orders. I just got a 4K projector so I can play some series X for now.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

From what I’ve read and what’s being reported on Reddit is the emails are only for non US so far

So I got an E-mail from sony about a "Pre-auth" so I guess that charge then cancel a few months ago was just for verification! It sounds like I will indeed be getting my VR! I just got the base though so either I have to buy something digital or see if there will be disc versions of any of the games. That switchback VR will be my priority.

I cancelled mine today. I’ll possibly pick it up down the line but definitely wouldn’t be using much in the next few months.

Got my e-mail today too.

Same.

Nice, what game are you guys playing first? Dark Pictures Switchback VR for me. And I'm THINKING of getting the PS5 version of No Man's Sky. I have been kind of waiting on that one until VR comes out.

I think I might ease into it with the Kayak game and then, once I’m used to the controls, Horizon: Call of the Mountain. Then probably Demeo and The Light Brigade.

Switchback looks good, but it’s not out until mid-March right?

ErickRPG wrote:

I thought it was a launch title I remember watching a trailer for it.

So since Switchback VR is NOT a launch DAY title. I did some researching. And I think I'll give that kayak game a try too. In fact there's a few titles that I think I'll love

Kayak
Fantavision 202x
Rez Infinite (I remember a game reviewer said this game in VR made him cry)
Thumper

And that otopuss god game looks kinda funny and cute. So it looks like there are definitely enough exciting titles to play on day one. And I'm thinking of buying the physical version of No Man's Sky PS5. I seriously can't wait to get into that. Even if I have to wait a couple weeks for the patches and updates, I can play the other games to keep me busy. The idea of going from outerspace onto a planet surface in VR is exciting. Something even Starfield can't do.

If I were getting one at launch, the first game I'd probably play is either Horizon or Resident Evil 8.
I've had RE8 for a while but like RE7 I refuse to play it until I can do it in VR. And if it's as good as RE7 in VR is, it'll have been worth the wait.

I'll probably replay RE8 sometime this year in VR. I have it, but I beat it already regularly, so it's further down on my list. That being said, though, RE7 in VR was probably my favorite VR experience ever, and I bet seeing Lady Dimitrescu in VR is going to be crazy.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

RE7 and RE8 frighten me enough in NON VR. So forget VR. Lol. I beat RE7 but I only recently started RE8. I am playing it on my 4K Projector and 125" screen. That's immersive enough for me.

Nice! That’s huge.

ErickRPG wrote:

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:

Yeah, at least on that they don't feel like they are literally behind me.

Someone on Reddit got their PSVR 2 early and is answering questions. Poor guy was getting down voted in the beginning because nobody wanted to believe him despite the proof he was showing
https://www.reddit.com/r/PSVR/comments/1124fa2/i_g...

Here's a roadmap of features the developers of that Kayak VR game are looking to add. Online multiplayer and an open world are among them.
https://trello.com/b/hSKybmxa/kayak-vr-roadmap

hell yeah. Definitely want to kayak around and admire the beauty, who cares about racing in a world that pretty.

By the way, Do we know if there are any white water rapid areas in that game? That would be amazing.

That Reddit thread really makes me want to try Cinema mode.

ErickRPG wrote:


That's being added too

The upcoming Twisted Metal reboot might support VR
https://www.thegamer.com/twisted-metal-reboot-vr-f...
An ad for principal physics programmer notes that the game will be made in Unreal Engine 5, and will "break new ground in multiplayer, blending gameplay mechanics in new ways and deeply embedding storytelling elements into a unique universe." The ad also said "experience developing gameplay for VR would be useful," implying that Twisted Metal could be compatible with the PS VR2.

That's awesome!

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

Crap.

This would definitely push me over the edge to get the VR2.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

WHAT REALLY!? Hell yeah! Dream come true baby! And twisted metal coming back too? The only concern here is I got one of those logitech wheels with a stand for the wheel and pedals but I just have no room for it. So I wouldn't have room for a PS5 wheel :(.

I see that the white water is a long term goal. So we are talking about maybe a year or even longer? Oh well it will be amazing if/when it ever makes it. But it's nice to know it's at least planned. A lot of physics and moving water graphics go into it. So it's going to take quite a bit of programming to get it right. Hopefully it's something they can accomplish!

I just got an email saying that my PSVR2 shipped! Estimated delivery on release day.

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:

Yup me too! I didn't order the charging station til recently. But I figure it's easier to just place both controllers there instead of plugging each one in. I already do that for 2 dualsense controllers.

https://youtu.be/Jrg0dmUXRDM

I love this guy. He’s struggling with the problems of being a gamer who wants things for illogical reasons

DarkFact wrote:


The struggle is real

Vr is a really cool and fun way to play games!

Any word on how the new VR is for people with motion sickness? I really liked my PS4 VR but some games would make me so dizzy I would just about puke (I am looking at you Farpoint!).

Is the newer VR technology any better in that regard?

From what I've been reading, the higher frame rate is supposed to help with motion sickness. Everyone is different, though.

There's a few things that will help. Higher framerate is definitely one of them. The eye tracking also helps because it makes it much easier to get the IPD (distance between your pupils) correct. Unfortunately there are some people that just cannot handle VR regardless of what comfort techniques are used. My wife can't play anything with movement, even warp movement messes with her. She sticks to games in diorama style view like Moss, Ghost Giant, etc. Or non moving ones like GNOG, Statik, or I expect You to Die. Some games were also developed poorly and made way more people sick than usual, Tomb Raider, Time Machine VR, How We Soar.

my last weekend without PSVR2 is almost over! I dunno about you ppl but I'm definitely excited to try this thing out. It's been several years since I've last been inside a VR world, and I'm looking forward to the improvements of PSVR2. Can't wait to kayak around virtual worlds. or shot fireworks while I'm floating high in the air! Or enter a planet from outer space!

What The Bat? is one of the PSVR2 games that can only be played in Roomscale mode.
It will require a play space of at least 6 feet 7 inches by 6 feet 7 inches / 2 meter by 2 meter.

Easy Allies and also Ian Higton in Eurogamer's PSVR2 review says the game straight up wouldn't let them play because there wasn't enough room in their studio.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsvXUBrN9c4&t=163s

If that sounds like it could be an issue, make sure you double check the PlayStation Store listing for games you're looking forward to.
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PizzaTheHutt wrote:

You can lie about your play space and edit it to work from what I’ve seen/read.

Only a couple days now. What is the very first VR game you will boot up? For me, probably Fantavision 202x.

It's probably going to be Rez. I got the Horizon pack-in, but I don't really want to jump into anything that big yet.

I hope some enterprising intern creates a patch for WipEout, but the odds of that happening are pretty slim at this point.

ErickRPG wrote:

Horizon for me because I know it will feature the new tech well.

@ErickRPG i totally forgot about Fantavision, I need to look into that now. So many games I’m interested in at launch. Light Brigade, Kayak VR, song in the smoke and now fantavision. Anyone interested in doing some gameshares?

Fantavision 202x is finally on the PS Store, but it's not purchasable yet. Probably will be on launch day. I'm glad that even though I ordered the controller charging station later, I will be getting it on launch day.

Just pre-ordered everything I wanted that's on sale currently. In a completely unrelated topic I am looking for a lot of discounted PSN

State Of Play on Thursday will have five new PSVR2 titles to show (among other non-VR stuff).
Though I'm not getting one at launch I'm still excited for this and hoping it does well.

edit: What The Bat? is getting patched to not require Roomscale

Tomorree, Tomoree, I luv ya, Tomoree. I can't wait to Vee Arr, a waayyyyyyy.

The Resident Evil 4 Remake will be getting PSVR2 support added in a free update.
They don't say if it's just a bonus mode or if the full game will be playable in VR though.

I got mine!... but still at work xD

So far bought, Moss 1&2, What the Bat, Kayak, Cosmonious High, Tentacular, Garden of the Sea, Horizon

got mine too, those controllers are beautiful. Looks like they come from DA FUTURE! I won't be playing until Friday. Vacuum and charge up controllers tomorrow morning, then play after last day of week Fri morn.

I got mine all set up too. I just finished some work stuff and am eating late dinner, but I’m about to try it out.

Bought a couple of patches. Let's see if they'll finish downloading by the time my movie is over.

If anyone gets fantavision share thoughts please. $29.99 is a little steep. Was hoping/expecting $19.99. As it stands I might just get Kayak and update Rez. There are some demos of Horizon and starwars and some of the bigger games, so that's cool.

Alright. I spent about an hour and a half with Horizon: Call of the Mountain, and it’s pretty impressive. They hit you with some great visuals (a tallneck in VR is just great) in the first segment. The climbing is a lot of fun, and using the bow is pretty intuitive. The scale of everything definitely feels bigger with the expanded field of view and crisper visuals. The biggest positive that I didn’t expect is just how much better the inside out cameras are than using the external camera like with the original PSVR. Also, the tracking with the new controllers (and the feel of them in general) is noticeably better. Although there’s still some clunkiness with all VR stuff, it feels much less burdensome than with my old PSVR. Also, the sound through the default headphones is pretty decent. You can hear the difference between climbing a rope and climbing a pipe. It really adds to the immersion. I haven’t tried my really good headphones yet, but I will soon. I’m really happy with everything so far.

did you try putting your hand in the water as the canoe went forward?

I didn’t! I was distracted looking all around me lol. Something else to try.

ErickRPG wrote:

Just seeing this thread. Are PSVR1 games supported when playing on the PS5? Haven't checked anything about it, so I'm just wondering.

Yes if you use a PSVR1 headset, a PS4 camera, and the PS5 adapter.

Best1989 wrote:

Yep unforuntately the devs have to make the game playable with PSVR2. And some devs have. Rez, No Man's Sky, several others. I'm still hoping they make Rush of Blood compatible.

In Horizon I put my hands in the water just as the alligator thing went past. Scared the crap out of me. What was also cool was the fabric on the boat. Obviously I can just keep moving my hand in real life but the haptics made it feel like I was pushing against fabric. The visuals plus the haptics tricked my brain into thinking I was hitting fabric xD

sefjwm wrote:

Very cool indeed. Yeah the haptic feedback of PS5 is great. Companies just need to actually take time to implement it. With the haptics on the headset. Think about it being raining lightly, but you can feel the little "tip tip" trinkles on your forehead! So many cool things they could do!

Has Sony said anything about when we can expect these things in retail stores?
I think only being able to get them through Sony is why I was able to convince myself to skip it at launch. If I could get one by just walking into a Best Buy or Walmart, I likely wouldn't have been able to resist the urge and I'd probably have one right now.

I also saw UK? GameStop was offering good trade in towards these. Like extra 50% on some items. Hopefully here too.

Just saw a trailer for a VR drumming rock game on psvr2. Oh boy. I need this.

finally tried it out. Tried Kayak, was awesome. But I kept getting the grid (I'm guessing boundary warning screen) so I'm gonna watch a youtube video how to shut that off. I could feel my right hand rubbing against my curtain, but I don't care. I'm careful, I trust myself not to hit the end table or anything.

Feeb wrote:

There's a drumming one and an Viking one which I believe is basically drumming but Norse.

There's also an air guitar game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-O0kE4qX88

Apparently the physical version of After The Fall for the original PSVR doesn't allow you to upgrade to the PSVR2 version for free. You had to have bought the digital version to get the free upgrade.

So far this doesn't apply to other games offering free PSVR2 upgrades, so I don't know what the issue is with this one.

It seems the developers are giving free download codes if you DM them with proof of purchase that you own the physical version on original PSVR and a receipt of your PSVR2.

Light Brigade is amazing so far. Shooting a gun with these controllers is next level immersion and feels great.

Glad to hear it. I bought it and am really excited to try it eventually, but I’m still playing Horizon: Call of the Mountain.

Shane12m wrote:

man wish I still had access to ebay. My PS5 no man's sky has no text on the front. Some dude selling "misprint label" on ebay for $80. I'd be making bank with this stupid crap. As it is now, I have to return it to amazon til I get one that's not misprinted.

I tried the kayak game a little tonight and felt decently comfortable with everything in the tutorial, but I’m getting wrecked in even the first race. I’m having a hard time keeping the paddle from dragging in the water after some strokes, which is weird, because I’m pretty decent at real kayaking. The boat also seems really sensitive to you moving your body at all. It’s a beautiful game but a little frustrating to control.

Update: I got the hang of it. Just a bit of a learning curve.

This'll be going in my wishlist for sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk3SjEr236E

Dang, switchback not reviewing super well.

Yeah, I watched a couple reviews this morning. Seems like it should've been delayed longer to polish it up. I've heard complaints of low-res graphics, the game in general just not being very scary, and underwhelming use of the haptic feedback.
That's disappointing, but I can't say it is unexpected, because for the past couple of years everything Supermassive Games has released has felt unpolished at launch and you're stuck waiting weeks or months for the patches to roll out so you can finally play the games how they were intended.

That's unfortunate. Although, Horizon: Call of the Mountain had a 79 average, and it was a much better game than those scores suggested, so I'll play it for myself and see eventually.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:

Yeah but this is sitting at a 69 currently. At least with horizon it had a few really high scores so it was some loved it others didn’t care as much for it

I didn't even notice the Metacritic score for it. There's a few YouTube channels that are dedicated to covering PSVR/PSVR2 games and one specifically (PSVR Without Parole) I trust enough to base my purchases solely on their reviews.

It reviewed lower than I expected, but it's still staying on my wishlist because it doesn't seem to be a terrible game.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

Yeah I follow and watched the without parole videos. It seems like a game to play on sale and when and if they hopefully improve the resolution

The Light Brigade is tough, but it's also really satisfying to play. I finally beat the first boss tonight, made it through the next level, and then died in the one after on my first run using the Assault class. It's my favorite so far, although I haven't unlocked the two classes after it yet.

The developers of Switchback are looking into the blurry graphics issue and may have found a potential cause of it.

I’ve been playing The Light Brigade a ton, and I was able to get to the second boss without a single death, but, then, I lost all three lives to the boss. It’s so rough. The boss is invincible while this acid goo stuff is pumping into her. You have to pull four levers to stop the goo from flowing to her (two near the ceiling and two on the floor). You have to teleport to the levers, because large sections of the floor are that acid goo and keep eating away your health as long as you touch it. While you’re trying to pull the levers, the boss is spitting big chunks of the goo at you (which sticks to all surfaces, creating another environmental hazard) and shooting a pistol at you. If you hit all of the levers, you have a limited amount of time to shoot at the boss. Then, you have to pull all of the levers again. When you damage the boss, rats come down conveyor belts to her, and she can eat them to restore her health. You also have to find ammo and equip it (which is hard to do quickly while also doing all of the above, because you have to eject the clip in your gun and then manually reload it and cock it to shoot. I’ll keep trying, as I can upgrade my stats a bit more each run, but this may be a wall for awhile.

So a little over a month since release, what are your impressions from those who own it? Did it exceed expectations so far, or still needs more killer apps to convince you? How much playtime is it getting?

So far, I’ve played and beaten three games on it: Horizon: COTM, Kayak VR, and The Light Brigade. It’s definitely exceeded my expectations, and I haven’t even played the most well-reviewed games for it (like RE: Village and GT7). Horizon’s climbing was really fun, Kayak VR was beautiful but initially quite frustrating until I got used to the controls. Then, I enjoyed it . The Light Brigade has been my favorite so far. The graphics are simple and not especially impressive, the controls took me some time to get used to, and it’s tough, but I got better with practice, and, then, the gameplay was great. It’s one of those “just one more run” type of games. Compared to the PSVR, the tracking is much better, and the visuals are quite impressive at times. I’m happy with my purchase.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

Report: Estimates Say Sony’s PSVR 2 Isn’t Selling Well, May Need Price Cut

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/03/30/...

I saw that right before I made that post yesterday evening.
I want to hold off on getting one until there are more must play games for it. But...if they'd finally send these suckers out to retail and I could just walk into a Best Buy or Walmart and impulsively purchase one and be home playing it 20 minutes later, I'd probably do that. By making it so I can only get one through their website, they're just helping me not to spend that money. I can't be the only one.

If the sales projections reported months ago for psvr 2 sales were truly expected- someone should be fired. Those were asinine and clearly way off.

I haven't played it any since I moved my PS5 to the home theater system with the projector screen. But I've been busy watching lots of movies. I mean I spent a lot to get the 4k projector and new receiver that was capable of 4K gaming. On the bright side, 4K movies and 4K games look amazing on it. So I'll get my monies worth eventually

Humanity releases May 16 and will be hitting the PS+ Extra/Premium tier's Game Catalog on day one, which I believe makes it the first PSVR2 game available on the service. It can be played without VR as well, and also has support for original PSVR (good on them for including that because it is how I'll be playing it).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM1yO7bcqqk

VR Skater is releasing at the end of June. I really hope it doesn't end up sucking, because skateboarding in VR sounds like it could be fun.
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0C2VVPP7T...

I'm late taking a look at this article, but there are a couple of important points it overlooks:

1) They're comparing sales for PSVR from October-February to sales of PSVR2 from February-March. I suspect that PSVR2 sales will pick up quite a bit this holiday season.

2) There are way more people with a PC or a PS4 than with a PS5. As more people pick up a PS5, the potential userbase for the PSVR2 will get big enough to support better sales numbers.

MrBean wrote:

PSVR2 coming to local retailers soon.

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/16515719035...

Nice, just what I've been waiting for...
Still gonna give it some time to get a few more must-have games.

I was at Walmart today and asked the person in the electronics section when they were expecting to get PSVR2 in stock and she had no idea about it and said she doesn't think any stores are selling them, but she also didn't even bother to check in their systems if there was anything about it and I didn't feel like explaining that Sony said retailers are getting them "soon". When I got back home I see that at least Best Buy and GameStop will be selling them starting May 12.

I likely would've impulse bought one if they were in stock at that Walmart today. I also would've regretted it by the time I got home, but that don't matter.

Progress
https://twitter.com/iVRy_VR/status/165476198240944...

What's the goal they're shooting for? To play Steam games on PSVR2?

It's the best headset right now and a very good price point for high end headsets. They want to play PC games on it, yeah

that would be HUGE! I hope it happens, would love to use my PSVR2 for PC VR!

I’ve seen people are getting PSVR2 at GameStop now?

Feeb wrote:

GameStop and Best Buy will officially begin selling them online on Friday but I think the website says you might be able to get one in-store a little earlier than that.

PlayStation Showcase next Wednesday, there will be PSVR2 stuff revealed and without even owning one yet I gotta say I'm more interested in that than any non-VR games that will be shown.
https://blog.playstation.com/2023/05/17/youre-invi...

I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but there are so many first party games that they've only hinted at, so I'm excited (both on the PSVR2 front and the PS5 front). I'm really curious whether we'll hear more about Bend's new IP, since I loved Days Gone.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

Bulletstorm VR just got announced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yeXH-J91UU

That's awesome!

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

Lots of ports.... Yay

With VR I think I'm more forgiving with ports, as long as the effort is put into it to make the VR version be the version to play.

And not to make excuses for all companies that port their stuff to VR for a quick buck, but at least in Bulletstorm's defense, it had started development in mid-2007 and VR just wasn't an option back then. Even when it finally released in early 2011, VR just wasn't even close to being at the level it is now.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

I don’t think it’s just for a quick easy buck, I think at this phase of VR it makes so much more sense to make a fully fledged already made game into VR. Look at how good resident evil village and gran turismo are. Two top ten Vr games of all time IMO and they are “ports”.

One port I'd be ecstatic for is if we could finally get a VR port of Mirror's Edge. I've been wanting it for years.
Bought it but haven't played it yet, but there is a PSVR1 parkour game that a lot of reviews compared to ME called Stride.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EhLxkm4m5I

I love VR ports. As long as they're done well, keep 'em coming. The difference between playing RE7, for example, flat vs in VR is really notable.

This looks decent. Besides RE8 and that on-rails shooter I'm forgetting the name of that was like a sequel to Rush Of Blood, are there any notable horror games on PSVR2 yet? And has that on-rails shooter been patched up yet compared to the state it launched in?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRvlNJPBJKI

Phasmophobia coming to consoles in August. Will support PSVR2 and cross-platform multiplayer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdHp_fHmJEY

anyone remember the name of the wilderness crafting survival game? It's not song of smoke, it was a newer one not out yet with better graphics.

EDIT: Nevermind found it by browsing past state of play, that's where I thought I saw it. Def gonna wait for this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub2G8f1-NCw

Operation Wolf Returns: First Mission VR is out and it doesn't seem to be very good. Every time an on-rails VR shooter is released and ends up not being very fun, I feel like Sega and Namco are missing out on some easy money by not bringing over Time Crisis, Virtua Cop or House of the Dead to VR. They even released a House of the Dead Remake last year and were too stupid to put VR support in the PS4 version.

This reviewer ended up getting the platinum trophy in 2 hours and says even on the hard difficulty it was still too easy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLumJYMDxtg

Switchback getting a big update that includes "graphical, gameplay improvements and more."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6-pyr0ILug

I finally saw a PSVR2 in the wild. They had one left at Walmert. Unfortunately it was the base unit and not the one that comes bundled with the Horizon game, so it was a lot easier to resist the temptation.

Are there any PSVR2 purchases you guys have made that you regret? Everyone asks for the hidden gem recommendations and stuff, but what about games you think people should avoid? Or is it still too soon for there to be many of those?

I don't have one yet and have been keeping an eye on the titles being released. It's been quiet, no?
Not a lot has caught my interest and having a Quest 2 makes the PSVR2 even less of a must-have right now. Gonna wait a year and a price drop then catch up on the games I missed.

I've been trying to keep up with new releases, I'm really just waiting for an excuse to pull the trigger and buy one. Horror games are what I'm most interested in, so I'm checking reviews on YouTube each time a new one gets released, but there aren't enough good ones yet. This might be one area where it might be smarter to look into PC VR instead, but I'll always be more of a console guy.

In the mean time I'm going through my unplayed PSVR1 games, which is likely in the range of 20-25 games at this point because I keep buying more in PSN sales. But it just sucks playing VR in summer time, so I try to keep the play sessions short.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

Wasn’t a fan of horizon tbh

I got the base model just because all of my systems complete with the box are original base model styles and don't include a pack in or bundle. Except systems like Wii of course, where it was standard. But thats more a collecting continuality quirk of mine.

This Mannequin game was just announced and I'm hoping it turns out to be good. "Asymmetric multiplayer hide-and-seek VR game."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trPqc7tu_8I

The world has stopped. Time is frozen. All attempts to make contact with the aliens have failed. Special Agents have been deployed to neutralize the threat once and for all. Humans call the aliens: Mannequins. Mannequin is an asymmetric multiplayer game for up to 5 players, filled with suspense, social deduction and fast, sudden action. Play as alien Mannequins and set up deadly ambushes by posing as humans frozen in time, or as human Agents and wield high tech gadgets to neutralize the Mannequins from a distance.

You can apply to playtest the game on their Discord server.
https://www.mannequingame.com/playtests-mannequin-...

Anyone play anything good on this thing recently? Or anyone start to feel like they might've bought one too soon and it hasn't been getting enough use?

I'm thinking I'll finally pick one up in early-mid January. I've been holding off because I feel like the library really isn't quite there yet to justify the price, but I'm convinced there's enough good games coming in 2024 that it might be worth it to just get it early and play the few good games already out while I wait for some of the new ones. Plus my birthday and Christmas coming up, I've made it clear I only want gift cards, so I expect that might help cover maybe $150-$200 of the cost.

What's the battery life like on the VR2 Sense controllers? I've reached the point where one of my PS Move controllers doesn't seem to hold a charge as long as the other, but since VR games are not long anyway, I've never had it die on me in the middle of a play session.

So, I haven't played as much as I wanted to, but I've enjoyed everything I've played so far (Horizon: Call of the Mountain, The Light Brigade, Star Wars: Tales from the Galaxy's Edge, and Kayak). Of those, Kayak was my least favorite (although still neat), and I had the most fun with The Light Brigade. I don't personally feel like I bought it too soon. I still have 40+ games in my backlog that I bought but haven't gotten around to playing yet (just because there have been a buncn of great non-VR games out recently (Diablo IV, Baldur's Gate III, etc.). The battery life on the Sense controllers hasn't been an issue for me, but, then again, the most I've played at a time is a few hours. I haven't had them die on me yet.

In terms of stuff to play, Resident Evil 4 Remake's VR mode comes out as a free upgrade on December 8th. I'm really looking forward to that one.
 
PizzaTheHutt wrote:

I remember you mentioning The Light Brigade before. I don't know much about it but just put it in my wishlist now.

I've heard on Discord that the VR2 Sense controllers can last around 4-5 hours, but that they charge really fast, like it'll only take 15-20 minutes to recharge fully. If true, that's great and I wish the regular DualSense charged that fast because its got about the same amount of battery life.

Nice. Take my recommendation with a little bit of a grain of salt though, because I love roguelites, and The Light Brigade is one. Also, the controls take some getting used to. That being said, it's pretty addictive and has some great boss fights. The platinum was tough, but I powered through it, because even when I had a hard time with some runs, it has that "just one more time" quality to it.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

Arizona Sunshine II reviews are out and it's currently at 81 on Metacritic. It seems to be less janky than the original (which was one of the most janky/buggy PSVR games I've played), but overall after watching and reading some reviews I'm not convinced I want to spend $50 on it.

The co-op mode in the campaign seems fun, but the horde mode only has one map and it's the same one from the first game, and apparently takes upwards of 30 minutes before it becomes challenging. On the plus side it makes good use of the haptics, and the campaign is approximately 7 hours long, I feel like I want to support developers that make VR games that last more than just 2 or 3 hours because that's often my biggest complaint with VR games.
https://www.metacritic.com/game/arizona-sunshine-2...

If anyone is looking to add another PSVR2 game to their collection, Best Buy's deal of the day today is Gran Turismo 7 on PS5 for $30. I'm not big into racing sims, but I'm gonna be desperate for some VR games to play in a few weeks when I pick up my PSVR2, so I ordered GT7 since I know they did it right this time and made the whole game playable in VR, unlike last-gen.

GT7 is excellent. Even if you don’t love racing it may hook you.

Oof, as more reviews trickle in for Arizona Sunshine II the score has dropped to 75 now. Oh well. I still wanna play it though, but this is making me feel I'm right for not wanting to spend $50 on it.

Anyways, has Sony gone in-depth on what their long-term plans for PSVR2 are? Like, is it always just meant for playing games and that's it? From my understanding you can do lots more with PC VR headsets. Even on the original PlayStation VR there are apps where you could watch VR videos and 3D movies (even the adult kind if you really wanted to), and the YouTube app had the option to watch videos in 360°, but you can't do any of that in PSVR2 (yet). I wish they would address this. Of course the games are first and foremost the reason I'll be buying it in a few weeks, but at the price they're charging it'd be nice if it could do other things too. I'm hoping for something big planned in February to celebrate the first year anniversary, like maybe putting a few games on the PS+ Extra tier, that'd be nice and maybe help justify the recent price hike a little.

Ven VR Adventure released today at $20. I don't expect it to be on the same level as Astro Bot on the old PSVR, but this looks like it'll be nice to play after I get through RE 8 and RE 4. Is this the first 3D platformer on PSVR2 or are there others I should be looking at?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKzNXpe3aqI

I have Ven on the Quest2. It's not as polished as Astrobot but it's more challenging and has more variety. It isn't amazing but I had lots of fun with it. There aren't a lot of games like this unfortunately so I was willing to put up with some occasional clumsiness. $20 is prob the highest I would pay for it.

Nice. By the time I finish the two RE games maybe it'll be on sale, but if not, if it's a decent game I'm willing to pay the $20. The easy difficulty was really the only complaint I had with Astro Bot. That game did everything else right and convinced me 3D platformers have a place in VR, there just needs to be more of them.

This reminded me I have Super Lucky Tale or something on the old PSVR that I still need to play.

I got some Pulse Explore earbuds today for my birthday and also modded my PSVR2 headset with a globular cluster module, and it’s a whole different experience. It’s more immersive, I can stay in the sweet spot pretty easily, it’s more comfortable, and the earbuds sound better than I expected them to. (The key is definitely getting the right earbud tips. You can tell when they’re right, as they kinda lock in and seal your ear canal, and everything sounds way better.). Anyway, I’d recommend both (and especially the globular cluster module). I had a blast playing RE Village tonight with this setup.

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:

I got the pulse earbuds coming in too and were hoping they were good for vr. Good to hear. That globular cluster setup looks intense, in a good way

The globular cluster was much easier to install than I had thought it would be. You just pop out the front and back pads and the replacements click in. There’s an optional top strap, but I don’t even use it. I read that it’s mainly for if you have an overly large or overly small head. It makes the headset noticeably more comfortable and stable on my head.

Shane12m wrote:

I got cockblocked by two Walmarts trying to pick up a PSVR2 today. Don't ever trust their app...or the people who work there apparently. I started by going to a Walmart 30 minutes out of the way because the app said that was the only store around that had it in stock, but the dude working there said not only do they not have any in stock, but that he hasn't seen any in that store "in a while". So then I went to another one, even though the app said they didn't have it in stock I know I've seen them there in the weeks leading up to Christmas, so I thought maybe the app was incorrect since it was wrong about the other store already. But they were sold out too and the woman in the electronics section said "I don't even think we sell those", but like I said I've seen them there before but I didn't want to waste my breath explaining to her that they do indeed sell them and it's part of her job to know that they do. I could've saved myself the disappointment (and gas) by just calling ahead of time, but nobody at either store would answer the phone. Oh well, I just ordered one online that'll be here Wednesday, but I was really hoping to pick one up in person so I can have it set up for some guests tomorrow while waiting for the countdown.

Anyway, I bought a couple more games in the current PSN sale so I'll have stuff to play as soon as I unbox that sumdog. Current PSVR2 library:
Resident Evil VIII Village - It's the PS4 version, but it'll upgrade to PS5 for free, just been waiting until I can play it in VR.
Resident Evil 4 Remake - Also been waiting for VR to play it.
Gran Turismo 7 - I wouldn't have bought this if Best Buy didn't have it on sale earlier this month. But at least I know it's not a half-assed VR mode like the PSVR1 GT game.
The Dark Pictures Anthology: Switchback VR - I've read it has been patched up enough now that it is the complete game it should've been when it first launched.
Garden of the Sea - I watched the trailer and couldn't help but think this might be the closest we get to an Animal Crossing VR anytime soon.
Ven VR Adventure - I decided not to wait for a sale on this one and just bought it 10 minutes ago. I'm already spending $600 between the headset and Sense VR controller charger, what's another $20?

And my unplayed PSVR1 games that I know offer free upgrades to PSVR2 version:
Beat Saber, Job Simulator, Pistol Whip and Pixel Ripped 1995

I think that'll be enough to keep me busy for a little while, though I might buy another game or two before the PSN sale ends on the 6th. But I really don't want my PSVR2 backlog to get out of control like my PSVR1 backlog did where I'm still trying to catch up to it years later.

I got my PSVR2 today and first thing I noticed was the tape/seal on the box was already broken... Hopefully that doesn't mean anything. Everything else still looks like it was never touched. I bought a couple more games last night, After The Fall and I already forgot what the other was.

I'm charging up the VR2 Sense controllers and then I'll hop in and play some Switchback. A Google search says the controllers take 2 hours to fully charge, but I was told on Discord they only take 15-20 minutes. Somebody's lying to me.

Enjoy! I love my PSVR2. I still play my PSVR, but it's a night and day difference.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

I played a bit of Switchback (about 40 minutes or so) and so far early impressions, this is already a big improvement over the original PSVR. Like, when I'm in the roller coaster thing I can actually turn my upper body and head to look behind me and not have to worry about the camera telling me I'm "out of the play area" or something. PSVR was my gateway into VR and I got tons of enjoyment out of it (and still do), but damn that whole external camera gimmick for tracking was just a bad idea.

I'm not gonna try any other games until I finish Switchback. It's probably a fairly short game like the first one was, but I hope to do at least two playthroughs before I move on to something else.

Went ahead and ordered the pulse explore buds. I’ve been debating it for weeks and got some extra Christmas funds. I’m excited to try it for the portal and especially the VR2.

I've just been using my regular Pulse headset with PSVR2. I don't know why I never thought to wear it when playing PSVR1, I guess I just thought over-the-ear headphones wouldn't fit comfortably.

The Pulse Explore earbuds are too pricey for me, and I've heard the bass isn't very good, and that the volume control on the earbuds don't work when they're connected to a non-PlayStation device.

I’ve used the Pulse earbuds a fair bit with the Portal and PSVR2. They’re great for those purposes, but I wouldn’t use them as general headphones. (I prefer my Focal Clears for everything that doesn’t involve portability.)

I have a good set for work out etc. I just wanted these for the ps stuff. Hopefully if there are performance issues they can update easily. I use my portal for at least an hour nightly.

I told myself I was done, but I just went back for a few last minute purchases before this PSN sale ends.
Puzzling Places - PSVR2 Probably should have played the free trial on PS+ Premium first to know if I'll like it.
Drums Rock - PSVR2 Never played the drums in Guitar Hero or Rockband, but this looks fun. And a VR headset is easier to put away when not in use than a bulky plastic drumset would be.
Anyone's Diary - PSVR1 I don't plan to abandon this thing just because I upgraded to VR2.

There's a couple of other games in my wishlist I've had my eye on, but would like to find some other opinions of first. One being Galaxy Kart, which I know released in a rough state, but I want to know how much better it is now compared to 9 months ago. I'm a kart racing game fanatic but I know at launch it only had 4 tracks (quite pitiful) but I know the devs were committed to fixing it up post-launch, I just need to know how much progress they've made.

Akka Arrh is getting a PSVR2 release in March and it looks kinda...funky. It's a Jeff Minter game who is probably best known for Tempest 2000.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03PDtTYx8yI

I had an idea I was all excited to try. VR 360 videos on youtube of rollercoasters. But PS5 isn't compatible with Youtube VR is it?

I see a lot of comments how PS4 was, but no update to make PS5 compatible yet. I know the resolution on those aren't that great, but I'd love to go into VR and move my head around while on one of those coasters in VR. Would be fun I think.

On that note, Epic Roller Coasters is kinda fun and is out on PSVR2 now: https://www.metacritic.com/game/epic-roller-coaste.... (A lot of the tracks are separate DLC purchases, but the game is technically free, and you can try out a few of them without purchasing anything.)

ErickRPG wrote:

Got my pulse explore buds. These things are pretty great. Can’t really feel them in ear as much as other buds. The spatial sound is excellent. I hate the dongle connector but I’m not sure if I even need to be using it?

ErickRPG wrote:


It's true that PS4 could do it but PSVR2 can't. The US side of the PSVR2 division is kinda slacking. You can watch 3D movies on this thing...if you have a Japanese PSN account and VPN and super fast internet because you have to stream the movies, they don't download (which imo makes it not worth it if you're outside of Japan). General consensus seems to be if you want VR for more than just gaming, head over to Quest. I think at some point I might end up getting one of those too.

As for roller coasters specifically, as already pointed out there is Epic Roller Coasters you can download for free. I tried one roller coaster on it so far, it was...alright, I guess. I was riding on a track while explosions were going off around me causing boulders to come crashing down. It was kinda cool but awfully quiet (there's no screaming sound effect of other people on the coaster with you, which to me is half the fun of irl coasters).

Some quick first impressions of a couple of games I started recently:

Drums Rock - This is fun. Unfortunately I don't seem to have the reflexes to keep up with most songs even on medium, which is a problem I had with Guitar Hero and Rocksmith as well and pretty much stuck to the easier songs and never felt motivated enough to try to get better. Main downside so far is the lack of licensed music, and what's there isn't the original songs but sound-alike cover versions like in the early days of Guitar Hero.

Ven VR Adventure - Oh boy, the jank is off the charts. I'll stick with it because there seems to only be 12 levels and I've already finished 7, but I guess I was a little too eager to jump at this one because I just wanted a 3D platformer in VR and from what I can tell on PSVR2 there are no other options yet. Also there's an annoying glitch at the end of level 4 and I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong that triggered it, and when I was able to bypass it I wasn't sure what I did right. That definitely needs to be patched, I think they were just in a hurry to get this out before Christmas.

ErickRPG wrote:

The idea sounds great but motion sickness kills it. Epic Roller Coasters is one of the only VR games that gives me problems and I have to use the comfort settings to "play" it. The super fast movement plus looking around is awkward.

On Quest what I really like is just standard Youtube has 360` "VR" videos, usually of tourist spots like Machu Picchu, the Vatican, etc. and those are pretty cool. Primarily because they move somewhat slow so it's really comfortable and you can look all around. The fidelity is never amazing though, but it's decent enough for at least the novelty of having full control of the camera when a drone flies around the pyramids of Egypt or whatever.

This one is rather dull but there are some neat things like someone who 360-recorded the Universal Studios Tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6n2zstwIS4

Anxiouz wrote:


Epic Roller Coasters made me feel a little funky too. At the start this little robot thing appears and asks if you want to find the right comfort settings, I figured since I already have my "VR legs" I'd ignore the little bastard and jump right in. What a stupid idea that was. I stuck through it and finished the coaster, but I haven't tried any of the others since. I will go back after I've finished what I'm already playing, but I'm not in a hurry.

Something I've noticed is when recording VR gameplay through the PS5 itself, the footage ends up looking very poor with washed out colors and that doesn't happen with non-VR games. I didn't notice this when I recorded my Switchback playthrough using my capture card though. It's not an issue for majority of users though, I just like recording footage of whatever I've been playing and toss it on YouTube (not because I'm a "YouTuber", but for archival purposes).

Anxiouz wrote:

I would do outer space animations and roller coasters. But sounds like I need a quest for that.

Anyone going to check out Vertigo 2 tomorrow? I guess it has been out on PC for a while and lots of people are calling it one of those "must play games" for VR, so that certainly has me interested. I won't be buying it on day one though, but definitely plan to check it out maybe next month.

Also going to be waiting on reviews for Bulletstorm VR which releases on the 18th. It seems they've barely shown anything of the PSVR2 version specifically, they just show what it looks like on PC VR. I can't think of any reason for that unless it's just a low effort port that won't take advantage of any of the PSVR2 features. I hope I'm wrong though.


edit: Checked out a review of Vertigo 2 on PSVR2 and it seems the game still has issues that need to be fixed. Glitches that will prevent you from knowing what to do to solve puzzles and inconsistent frame-rate (that's the one thing you want to get right in a VR game or you can risk making the player feel sick). Some reviews are still saying it's worth the money though, but I'm gonna wait and hope these issues are fixed via patch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqt5-Ml8gXg

Apparently Bulletstorm VR's review embargo lifts 10 hours after the game's release. That's never a good sign. Glad I didn't jump on that 10% off pre-order discount.

I don't know how that even works though. Once the clock strikes midnight of the game's release date and the game is officially available to the public, why wouldn't you be allowed to post your review immediately?

Triple post
Regardless of your VR platform of choice, you should probably just stay away from Bulletstorm. He can't post a review yet, so he uploaded his first impressions and it tells you all you need to know...which is everything you don't want to hear about a game you were looking forward to. The game is a mess with the main takeaways being it looks ugly, the AI enemies are dumb and the game crashes quite a bit. Quest 3 version is the worst.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFjiXJqwjRU

That’s disappointing.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

PlayStation Store in Korea has already delisted Bulletstorm VR and is offering refunds to those who bought it. I wonder if other regions will be following?

I noticed a little smudge or something on the left lens of my headset. I don't know how it got there, I'm always careful with it and I'm the only one that has used it. If it has been there for a while I certainly didn't notice it until today, and even now that I know it's there it is barely visible during gameplay most times. What am I supposed to use to wipe the lens clean? I thought they'd include something in the box with it, but I don't see anything.

edit: Saw this recommended on a VR Discord server. Just gonna post it here in case anyone else ever has this same question. They're good for using on TV screens too.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&lo...

Dead Hook releasing February 8 and it looks pretty damn good.
https://twitter.com/DeadHookVR/status/174984486037...

PizzaTheHutt wrote:
I don't have a vr, so probably won't play it, but that does look pretty good. I wonder how accurate it requires your movements to be. Because in a fast paced challenge like that, I'd hate to be trying to reload, but it's not working because of input parameters being slightly off.

The developer of Demeo is working on a Dungeons and Dragons VR game: https://www.ign.com/articles/official-dungeons-dra...

I've heard a lot before I even bought one, that PSVR2 was one of the most comfortable VR headsets out there. My VR experiences are limited to only owning the original PSVR and now a PSVR2, but after a little over a month of owning PSVR2 I find it hard to believe this could really be the most comfortable.

Playing Resident Evil 4 last night and after the 30 minute mark it really starts to hurt my forehead. This happens with other games too if I play more than 30-40 minutes. I'm the type that has to be in a certain mood to even want to play a VR game, and once I'm in that mood I like to spend hours playing it, and so far I have to say it was way more comfortable to do that with the original PSVR.

I agree that, at baseline, the PSVR is more comfortable than the PSVR2, but the globular cluster changes the game.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

I've heard of that but haven't looked into it. How easy is it to install, and does it void the warranty?

I’m terrible at installing things, and it wasn’t bad at all. I doubt it would void the warranty. You just pop out the panels in the front and back and replace them with cushier ones, and the back piece opens up the ability to use a strap at the top. You can easily snap the OEM parts right back in if you want. It took me about 15 minutes while watching the install video.

I also ordered the comfort mods for the controllers from them that just came out, and they should be here any day now. (They’ve been sitting in a city 45 minutes from me for a week. The shipping service they use by default takes awhile.).

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

Saw quite a few VR games on my wishlist are currently on sale, so I bought some. That old rule I made for myself before I even bought the PSVR2, that I wouldn't allow my VR2 library to get out of control like I did with the VR1 library that I'm still getting around to those games years later, well that rule went out the window within the first few weeks. I can't help it.

I want to say if I haven't already, that it really sucks that Sony put a cap on the number of games you can have in your wishlist at one time. The Steam store and Nintendo eShop have no limit. In the PlayStation Store my wishlist is 95% VR games, but I have to manually keep track of other games I want that won't fit in the wishlist. Ridiculous, especially for the people like me who will throw money at almost anything that looks even slightly interesting. Equally ridiculous is how difficult it is to just open Metacritic to browse reviews of VR games, because unless they are major titles hardly anyone will cover them. You pretty much have to go to YouTube and hunt down channels specifically centered on VR games.

My purchases:
Separation (PSVR1) - I've checked some reviews and saw it compared to Ico and Journey. It was on sale for less than $7.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtKU96SZ194

Behind the Frame: The Finest Scenery VR - I gifted the non-VR version to one of my friends on Steam last year and she enjoyed it. Without VR I would've never considered giving this game a chance myself. It looks calm and relaxing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7ZpKJ-A64o

Galaxy Kart - This game got a lot of crap at launch last year because it felt like an unfinished game. The devs have been listening to player feedback and adding to it ever since, more tracks, more stable online multiplayer, wheel support etc. and it's on sale for $10 now. Something like this is more my taste than Gran Turismo would be (I do own GT7, but am not in a hurry to play it).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8djE2iXphh0

Waltz of the Wizard - This is on sale for $8. I don't know much about it other than it does have a 2 player co-op mode (one player in VR, the other using a DualSense controller on the TV). Some of the magic is controlled through your voice as well. I feel like the VR2 mic, the eye tracking and local co-op are features barely any VR2 games support, but according to reviews this one uses all three of them well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJJypeV6OYY


Anyway, when I make posts like this it's just to try and bring some awareness to lesser known games. Of course we'd all like more AAA games on VR, but it's really the smaller devs that keep VR afloat until more big name developers are willing to try something new.

MADiSON VR just got hit with a last minute delay. It was due to release next week, but now it's coming March 23 at $34.99. Physical release is coming April 12. Since it's a separate SKU, you won't get a free VR upgrade if you already own the flat version, instead you will get a 20% discount off the VR version.


edit: And Jeff Grub is saying he's heard Astrobot is coming this year. He doesn't specify if it's VR only or hybrid flat with the option to play in VR.
https://twitter.com/realradec/status/1757848441193...

Looks like some peeps on Reddit are saying the new Pulse Elite headset doesn't fit properly over the PSVR2. How could Sony screw that up? Others say it does fit if you put them on first and then the VR headset over it, but the globular cluster interferes with that if you're using one.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

Yeah I read those posts. It fits fine unless you use the globular cluster mod, which Sony has no control over and doesn’t make them. You also need to put the headset over them like you mentioned

I don't see how that would be comfortable. wearing the headphones first. Like, wouldn't that make it really tight putting the VR headset over it? I use the regular Pulse 3D headphones and I put them on after the headset with no issue.

I was concerned about fit as well, so I got the Pulse Explores. I would never give up my globular cluster mods. They’re great.

Sony looking to make PSVR2 compatible with PCVR later this year.
https://www.gematsu.com/2024/02/ps-vr2-to-add-pc-s...

That’s game changing! I’m really excited.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

That'd be incredible if it was supported by SteamVR. I'd love to be able to use this in lieu of my Vive.

I've been seeing a lot of mixed feelings on that news. With this being the one year anniversary of PSVR2 and they didn't announce a single new first-party game for it, some are taking this as Sony kinda throwing in the towel on the headset, more like a "we're done with this, you guys can do what you want with it.".

I'm not sure I see it that way, though I might not be as ecstatic about it as others because it leaves me with several questions. Doesn't PCVR require pretty beefy specs? That's kinda why I went with PSVR/PSVR2 in the first place. Also, games designed for PCVR, how many devs will bother taking advantage of the haptic feedback and eye-tracking features that Sony heavily marketed to sell us on this headset in the first place? Already a lot of PSVR2 games I've played don't use them to begin with since there are a lot of ports from PCVR, now it seems like there might be even less incentive for devs to add it in because only a small percentage of players on PC will get to use it. Still though, I'm not against this idea at all because a lot of players have been asking since day one why they limited this headset to PS5.

I’m excited for two reasons. 1) I have a pretty decent gaming PC that should be able to handle VR but didn’t want to have to buy another headset. Being able to use the one I already like but have access to tons of new games is all win. I’m fine if they don’t incorporate features like haptic feedback if we’re talking about getting to play something without haptics vs. not being able to play it at all. 2) I think this will spur more PSVR2 sales and create a bigger user base to support future game development that does incorporate the unique features of the headset.

As far as concerns from people about the lack of first party PSVR2 games go, people seem to always be pessimistic on gaming websites, and I really don’t get it. The headset is only a year old, and there are reliable people saying that there’s apparently a new Astrobot game in the works (which I’m assuming will be at least VR hybrid. Also, I own 55 PSVR2 games and have only played four of them so far, so I’m in no rush for new first party games. There’s been plenty to play for me.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:


I agree, better to play them without the haptics than not get to play them at all. It's just that those features were used by many to justify the high price of the VR2. Of course now maybe the price doesn't seem as high because you'll no longer be required to own a PS5 to use it. I just hope most importantly this doesn't discourage devs from still porting their VR games to PS5. Also, I would not be surprised if when they are ready to officially roll out the PSVR2 support for PC, they have an announcement of Gran Turismo 7 PC with VR support right alongside it.




I agree again, there is a lot to play on this thing (not all of it good, but that goes for anything). Even though I've only had mine for just shy of two months, I've been keeping an eye on it since launch. It did have a really good first year and it feels like not enough people will give it credit for that. Like, there are full on consoles that don't have as good of a first year as this optional add-on did.

There's been a lot of discussion/debates over the past couple of days about how Sony worded that little announcement. Some are thinking it will allow the PSVR2 headset to work on PC (this is what I was thinking too). Others are of the belief that the PCVR games will still run off the PS5 possibly though streaming, and the reason being that if Sony just allows their headset to be used on PC then anyone who buys the headset and doesn't own a PS5, Sony won't ever make another dime off of those people.

Little Cities: Bigger! releases tomorrow. Anyone else thinking of picking it up? It releases in less than 24 hours and I don't know why Sony makes it so you can't know the price until the actual release day. So bizarre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX0uqWeqrh8


cyubeVR releases on Saturday. I've never played Minecraft and never wanted to, but this looks good. It even has Mod support.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpjk8Yl7SgE

There's a big PSN Spring Sale happening until April 11. Anyone getting anything? I've got just shy of $100 (after tax) worth of VR2 games in my cart currently. Debating removing or maybe even adding one more to it. What's in there currently:
Hubris - $14.99 (50% off)
Across The Valley - $7.99 (60% off)
The 7th Guest VR - $19.79 (34% off)
WHAT THE BAT? - $14.99 (40% off)
Red Matter Collection - $29.99 (25% off)

I've heard good things about the two Red Matter games and Hubris. WHAT THE BAT? I've heard mixed opinions about, but I really liked WHAT THE GOLF? when I played it on Switch, if this one is even half as funny as that was it will have been worth the price. Across The Valley probably won't be the "Harvest Moon in VR" experience that I want it to be, but at that price I can't be too disappointed if it isn't. The 7th Guest I don't even know much about other than it's an old 90s game remade in VR and I recall a friend saying she played it when she was a child, so I'm gonna buy it just to show her how it looks in VR (not personally since she lives on the other side of the world, but I'll stream it for her).

I think this might be the final list and I'll save Dead Hook and The Light Brigade for the next sale. But I'm so hooked on Among Us VR that I don't know when I'll start any of these games. I could be wrong and just not remembering, but I don't think I've bought a single flat game since January, it's just all been VR2.

Edit: just remembered I did buy a flat game a couple months ago, Sonic Superstars was $20 and I couldn't pass that up. But that has to have been the only one so far.

For what it’s worth, I loved The Light Brigade. It’s one of my favorite VR games. The controls take a bit of getting used to, but it’s a blast once you do.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:


I never checked any reviews of it, but I know I put it in my wishlist just from your recommendation. The only thing that worried me is I think you called it a rogue-like and that's one genre I usually just can't get into, that's the main reason I only want to buy it during a sale (same for Dead Hook). I expect they'll be on sale again during the inevitable big Summer Sale all the stores do in June/July.

I have only played Red Matter 1 (on Quest 2). It's super chill but I never stuck with it to beat. You mostly just mosey through a facility but it's good looking and was a solid VR experience. I hear RM2 is better but I'd wait for a bigger discount for the bundle if I was you.

Anxiouz wrote:


Too late.
I've heard RM2 is better also, but neither game was on sale individually and buying Red Matter 2 alone without a sale costs the same price as this bundle on sale. I checked PSDeals.net and so far the bundle hasn't gone cheaper than $29.99

That’s cool. To be honest, you may not get into it like I did if you don’t like roguelites, as it definitely is one. (I’m a big fan of roguelites.)

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

The RadTV devs are still hard at work on porting their app to the PS5 with PSVR2 support. It wasn't as simple as just porting their existing PS4 app because I guess Sony made some big changes to what they'll allow on PS5. But this will allow you to sideload 3D content to watch on your VR2 headset. It originally was free on the original PSVR, but they've since rebranded the app and added a subscription fee a few years back.

Well well well
https://twitter.com/Flat2VR/status/177863681247638...

Looks like Legendary Tales' developers are disappointed in the game's sales and may abandon VR for future projects. I admit I haven't bought the game yet, and it does look really good, it was just the $55 price kinda threw me off (and clearly I'm not the only one). Like, I know during any typical PSN sale I could easily get 3 or 4 other decent VR games equal to the price of just that one game.

They are looking to release the game on Quest and hope that rakes in the money. Don't get me wrong because I really enjoy the PSVR2, but from a potential money standpoint, as an indie dev shouldn't you be targeting Quest first and PSVR2 last?

Anyway, the game certainly addresses one of my common complaints with VR games in that it's a full length (40+ hours) Action/RPG and not something that you will breeze through in a weekend. It also supports 4 player co-op, and I'm a big fan of co-op games, however the friends I play co-op games with have little interest in VR, so I'd be playing this alone or with randoms. They're looking into adding a free trial for PS+ Premium subscribers, so I'll check it out then. I just don't know if I'm ready for this transition into paying higher prices for VR games. I know I'm getting a quality game when Capcom asks full price, but you can never be so sure with indie devs.

I've lost faith in the PSVR2. I thoroughly enjoyed the PSVR and didn't care about cables or fidelity, it was a great experience on PS4.

But then I got a Quest 2 and being untethered was amazing. Meta is a garbage company but they do give coupons and have tons of sales on games. I've rarely had to pay full price for games but at most maybe $30?

With PSVR2 I have been waiting for unique, exclusive games (things like Blood & Truth) to hit but that list is surprisingly small. At this point I think the PSVR2 is going to stall...nowadays the top sellers are hitting multiple systems (Moss, Pistol Whip, Beat Saber, Synth Riders, Star Wars) and Sony isn't pushing very many top-tier exclusives to warrant $500 on top of the $500 system for me.

We have a PS5 but the whole fam is more interested in a standalone Quest 3-lite (which is coming soon and sounds like it'll be "cheaper" than PSVR2) and keeps us untethered + also brings our VR library forward.

I had a lot of PSVR games but the ones I loved the most never got updated for PSVR2 (like Eagle Flight). If the PSVR2 has a version of that, or Half-Life Alyx I'm in.

I saw recently that Quest 2 dropped permanently to $199 and thought "how could I say no to that?" because right now I'm in a VR phase where it's all I want to play...but I know it won't be long until I'll reach the point where I'm tired of it and won't play anything for a couple months, so that makes it difficult to want to add another headset to the mix.

Plus today a trailer was uploaded for a new VR game based on the Alien franchise releasing Holiday 2024, and it specifically had a Quest 3 logo, so that right there changed my mind on a Quest 2 if in just 6 short months new games won't support it already. Granted it has a library of hundreds of titles already and I'm assuming they'd all work on Quest 3, but the price of Quest 3 plus graphical downgrade makes me not as interested anymore. I've heard when media outlets get preview builds of Quest games they are specifically not allowed to make any graphical comparisons between other headsets, nor show blood in any violent games (which is why for the longest time people thought the Bulletstorm VR port wouldn't have gore, but turns out the previews were all just using Quest footage that forbids it). Another thing that bugs me is hearing about The Wizards: Dark Times - Brotherhood on PC VR looked pretty nice graphically. Then once it released on Quest, the PC VR version got a graphical downgrade that some fans suspect was to keep it on an even playing field with Quest. People have been leaving negative reviews for it on Steam and calling it a bait and switch, but one of the devs says they're working on fixing the graphics up again.

With PSVR2, that one single usb-c cable doesn't bother me at all, it has never been a problem, though I don't think I've played any games yet where roomscale setting was the recommended way to play. But if Sony gets their head out of their ass and properly markets this thing, I don't see a reason why we'd need a PSVR3. Like, no reason this shouldn't just work on a PlayStation 6. I feel they've damn near perfected the controllers, and the haptics and eye-tracking are cool features, but few games use them because we get so many lazy Quest ports where the games are built on engines and for headsets that don't support those things. Thankfully that group is at work on porting PS5 flat games to VR, I'd be disappointed if they didn't bother taking advantage of those features. It's rumored Returnal is one of the first games they're working on. I didn't much care for the flat version of it, but I'll give it a second chance in VR (though there are probably a dozen other titles I'd like to see converted to VR instead).