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Nice! 10 minutes is a lot for a game we've seen so little of.

Surely, we'll see at least 1 spoon in those 10 minutes.

bill wrote:


I'm more interested in if there will be a fork.

The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Silverware

I hope there's some sort of tease of a Minish world involved in the game, but I know that's unlikely.

theJaw wrote:
That would be awesome. Minish Cap was a gem. I really enjoyed that one. I want to replay it... *Distant slightly agitated whispering* nevermind, my backlog says absolutely not, at least for now. Well, at least that's a maybe. 😄

Truly is a gem. I finally beat it for the first time after starting it a bunch of times since it dropped on NSO. Easily top 5, maybe top 3 Zelda games for me. On a good day, it could even be my #1, I love it that much.

Even though I hadn't beat it until recently, I've always dug the shrinking mechanic dating back to when I first started playing it years ago. I'd love to see that brought to a BOTW style Zelda, even if for just a few sections.

Imagine running around the giant open world before suddenly spotting patches of flowers in parallel lines, and then having to bomb a nearby boulder or something to uncover a shrinking portal. That'd be so neat, but I'm probably getting ahead of myself here. I won't be let down if there's nothing Minish-related, but I'd be over the moon if there was.

I really hope this game ends up being another home run for Nintendo, and a huge step forward for Zelda (not just Breath of the Wild 2.0).

@theJaw Yeah, if there was a Minish related mechanic, I'd be really excited, but I'm not expecting it. Was there talk of it possibly being in the game?

Scott wrote:
Same.

I'd really like to see some old school 2D dungeons, or even a nod to that, in Tears of the Kingdom. Won't be a deal breaker if not, because I don't think we can expect it, but if it does turn out to have that, that would be really great.

nonamesleft wrote:

Well, apparently Minish-style shrinking and at least one Minish village was originally included in early concepts of BOTW. There’s official art of it and all:

https://www.reddit.com/r/zelda/comments/obkb9f/bot...

If they returned to this concept for TotK, it could potentially explain the extended development cycle the game has seen.

Also, and this is neither here nor there, but there’s something about the title “TEARS of the Kingdom” that invokes the idea that the Minish are the tiny tears of Hyrule to me… small, hidden and forgotten. Brushed aside, etc etc. I remember Nintendo didn’t want to reveal the title of the game too early for fear it’d give away too much of the plot, but upon hearing the title I wondered what they meant because it didn’t seem to give anything away. But maybe with that theory in mind, it sorta does?

I dunno. Again, that’s just me letting my mind wander, and it is a bit of a stretch, but it’d be neat.

Gameplay video:

https://youtu.be/a6qna-ZCbxA

Another switch.

https://twitter.com/wario64/status/164071560353431...

Those new mechanics are pretty badass. Would have liked a bit more story information but I'm fine just waiting to get surprised while I play the game. Happy to see that there are some neat new mechanics, the potential for puzzles using those mechanics is huge.

Feeb wrote:

Son of a dog, this will sell out instantly ...

So it goes up for pre-order on 04.28?

@MrBean, he said in another tweet that GS will probably open pre-orders at 4 PM ET. So check around then.

It will be released on April 28.

BloodPuppetX wrote:

Oh hell ... i'm already nervous, haha

Gonna do my best to be on top of this, but y'all know I'm a gosh darn Zelda collector weirdo. Please tag me if this goes live! Happily throw ya some subtime or a finder's fee If I'm able to snag because of your communication.

Just cancelled my 4pm meeting, haha.

Called local GS ... they are prepping for people to line up around 330, but will be taking instore pre-orders.

Feel like it's not worth the risk and giving up my computer to buy online.

@MrBean

https://twitter.com/wario64/status/164078149168807...


Apparently they authorize but don’t charge until shipping.

Link for system, pad and case in tweet.

@MrBean Good luck! 🍀

🥬 Know what happens.

damnit! in queue ... im presenting during a meeting, GAH!

NICE! I got a console, I think?

Sadly, did not get the controller ... still, woohoo!!!

THANK YOU @Feeb / @nonamesleft

Seems like this has been up for a bit too long. Either lots of them or oversold.

Feeb wrote:

Yeah, I tried to get in for a second (one to play, one to collect) ... It's just spinning.

Hoping to snag the controller later. I was too focused on trying to get the console - and I was super slow! I was legit mid-presenting my screen when I looked at my phone and saw your tag. I immediately stopped sharing, but had to keep talking and they had me re-validate my account ... was a pain, but got through!

MrBean wrote:
Awesome! 🎉

Glad to hear you got the console.

Controller available @ Gamestop: https://t.co/pgfwdMgYax

MrBean wrote:
Nice looking controller. I think I'll post a picture of it here just for people to see.

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That controller looks pretty great. Gotta hand it to the designers. They did good with this one imo.

This looked great. Honestly tempered many of my concerns about the previous trailer. Probably the most excited I've been for it to date.

That controller would look so much better if both handles were gray/black. Why is Nintendo obsessed with mis-matched colors lately?

So, there's been hardly any conversation on here about the gameplay itself. What did everyone think? The new abilities are definitely very cool. I'm especially liking the Fuse ability. However, I hope there's a lot they're still not showing us. Otherwise, what I've been predicting (or what I've been afraid of) for a while now is true. It's basically BotW 2.0 with some new areas in the sky, slightly altered world map, and a couple new abilities.

I know this is a hot topic but I do not love the weapon durability system. Feels like a time sink move. It does not add to the difficulty.

I'd rather weapons not break, but it's not a huge deal to me. I got used to it in BotW. I thought in that video yesterday he was going to use the rewind ability to un-do a weapon breaking, that would have been funny. It would make the whole weapon durability thing pointless though, so I doubt that's a thing.

The gameplay video was done well enough to give us a sense of some of the mechanical changes to the game. I'm curious how long it will take to obtain all the abilities before you're off having fun. I'm looking forward to some of the crazy and entertaining ways people come up with for accomplishing things in the game. I'm really hoping the game doesn't have any terrible performance issues like we've seen in other games of late.

I started the video, and bailed. I want to be surprised when it launches.

As for the durability ... eh, it's not my favorite, but it does force you to change things up, which I do like.

Kinda like RE4 not allowing you to hoard inventory, gotta keep things fresh!

The Rewind ability seemed good.

Fuse... definitely interesting and potentially fun, but at the same time it feels like the sort of thing I don't love about botw-style Zelda. It's hard to put into words exactly, but it seems like it will have me fussing over tons of pieces/parts from inventory and using the game menus to select things and whatnot. All that is not really playing the game in a way I look for in a zelda game. It feels a bit like them doubling-down on breakable weapons (which are too many and a bit fussy imho) I want to be moving, flowing, upgrading, and progressing without fussing over my inventory.

Put another way, Fuse seems similar to cooking in botw. It's an amusing idea and I played with it. But, ultimately, I just found ways to take what I needed from it and mostly avoided it because I'm focused on completing shrines, upgrading my armor and generally making progress in the game. e.g. in my recent botw play, I mostly just would seek out and cook ingredients like truffles or durians and cook them alone because full health plus hearts was good enough (vs. the other random attack/defense/stealth bonuses which didn't seem to matter enough to worry about). The stamina foods had some value until I built my stamina up enough too. Mixing ingredients was ultimately a tedious waste of time from my perspective.

For Fuse, I could see trying a few combos (or reading about the best ones in a wiki), but then just going with a few that worked for me and not messing with it much otherwise.

We'll see, though. I'll play the game no matter what and hopefully I'll enjoy Fuse more than I think right now. None of this is a big deal or a deal breaker. If TotK is mostly BotW 2, that's fine with me. Yes, some magical new Zelda that is newer and fresher, yet incorporates some of the best bits from previous Zeldas (especially Minish Cap), would have been great. Probably that won't come until a new console happens.

I’m wondering if they’re going back to Shrines or if there will be a larger focus on dungeons. That’s really the one thing I’d like them to clear up. I’m happy with the new mechanics. Weapon durability/fuse doesn’t bother me at all, I think ultrahand looks like it’s gonna rule and add a whole new layer to the gameplay, and I can put up with cooking to an extent. I’m fine not knowing any plot details until I get in the game. I just want to know if we’re looking at a ton of full fledged dungeons like older Zelda games, or if we’re sticking to Shrines like BOTW.

I think it's safe to assume TotK is mostly like BotW, so it's unlikely they'd go back from shrines to dungeons. Maybe shrines will become more shrinier, though.

bill wrote:

I feel the same way. While the Fuse ability does look pretty cool, it's not something I'm interested in tinkering with. I can see a lot of players spending hours and hours playing around with it, coming up with all sorts of unique combinations. But that's just not something I care to spend a lot of time on. I want to be actively playing the game.