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Mortal Kombat on the Gameboy was pretty awful actually. Better than the GameGear version though.
Eh maybe not but they are both really bad.
And I used to be so obsessed with Street Fighter 2
and other fighting games I actually owned another terrible
Fighting game on Gameboy called Raging Fighter I think.

Quake is apparently Free on Xboxlive so I got through the first stage on that already.
I also mistakenly thought that the original Quake was also on Dreamcast.
But there is Quake 3 Arena. So technically I can still play that there.

BleedingViolet wrote:

It's a homebrew port, but it is available for DC.
https://quakedev.dcemulation.org/downloads/quakedc...

Quake's engine was made open source in 1999, so it's been ported to a lot of platforms unofficially. There's even a GBA prototype floating around!

Starting up Quake since I nominated it and bought it recently. Steam Deck is great for fps

Renaissance2K wrote:

Yeah I was seeing that too. I’ll check out that link.

Now I’ve just gotta see a youtube veedjo of it on GBA.
I really like it when people remake games for older systems like that.

My praise for the handheld versions may have been a tad premature, but at least they're in the history books.

I maintain that the Game Boy version is pretty smooth compared to some of the other ports, but the game is still "don't bother with special moves, mash those attack buttons, hope you get lucky." Like rock paper scissors between two meth addicts.

Renaissance2K wrote:

I was referring to the price, not the quality of the gb port.

Ain't no way I'm dropping triple digits on shaq fu.

OP is updated with the first of the Shaq Fu badges.

I did the leg work to get the Amiga core working on the MiSTer last night and tried out that version. It plays similarly to the two handheld ports because of the two-button controls, but the AI is much more unforgiving. Nezu is downright brutal. He has some sort of a green electric attack that puts you in a cage and makes it impossible to move. Fun.

Couldn't beat it for that reason, and ran out of continues.

I couldnt imagine putting that kind of effort into that game and not being able
to get it done because of not having infinite continues like most fighting games
seemed to have. That sucks. 😔

I'll give it one more shot, but yeah, if I lose everything to that damn kid again, I'll just stick to Genesis and SNES for the rest of the characters.

It's nice to have an Amiga environment running, though. I had no idea their library was so expansive.

Renaissance2K wrote:

Yeah, if you weren't part of the scene at the time it's pretty mind blowing how many games got released on amiga and c64.

Even more mindblowing how many people are still making games for them

Having beat Quake just last year, I won't be replaying it this soon... but I've got Quake 2 installed and looking to play it, so could I play it for the Badge instead?

Slickriven wrote:

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I'm in a good mood. I booted up the Genesis port of Shaq Fu and blew through Duel Mode with Leotsu and Diesel. Diesel got chewed up pretty badly by the final boss, but Leotsu is a friggin' beast. Something about the game's crazy controls cause his special attacks to stack on top of regular ones, so he blows through the enemy health bar really quickly. That's three characters down.

I then stared at my MiSTer and decided if I wanted to take another shot at the Amiga port. I loaded the game up, chose Auroch, and lost four times in a row against the first fighter. Half the time it was Leotsu; the other half the time, I had no excuse. Even in two button mode, I just couldn't get the game to do what I wanted, despite tearing opponents apart with Ball & Pain the night before.

I gave myself one last shot. Other than the occasional special move, I tried to do anything fancy. While any sane fighting game would let you hold a direction to modify an attack, the Amiga port seems to do anything but. Holding down and attacking activates a shield. Holding forward makes you dash. Pure lunacy, but the counter is just to stand there like a fool and kick until a foot meets face. Repeat until squishy.

And a half-hour later...

https://twitter.com/Renaissance2K/status/175367730...

My first Amiga game in the books. I guess I need to find the mustard to do it again with another character, though, for Sarna's thread.

I got a shipping confirmation for shaq fu. So I will be able to join you within a few days, Dejoy permitting

Took another shot at the Amiga port using the kid, but couldn't manage to do anything. Switched to the Colonel and got halfway through the game just by spamming his machine gun move, which has no distance limit. I didn't win - Leotsu got me, of course - but I witnessed such trash talk brilliance as this:

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Also... this is Shantae, right? I mean, look at her.

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Renaissance2K wrote:

C'mon, Shantae would never wear a skull on her hea--
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Oh. You may be onto something.

Victory is mine! All it cost me was my soul.

I'd been trying to play with a new character to fulfill my Amiga quota, but if Leotsu is such a badass on Genesis, why not use him on Amiga as well? Efficiency be damned!

Sure enough, his weird unintentional double combos and long reach from his bo staff made shredded chicken from the game's twelve opponents.

Okay, back to relative sanity on the Super Nintendo and Genesis to finish the game with the remaining characters...

Almost there...

I've finished Shaq Fu with Shaq, Kaori, Beast, Mephis, and Rajah on SNES; Diesel, Colonel, and Nezu on Genesis; and Leotsu and Auroch on Amiga.

I've been using a move list on Gamefaqs for my SNES playthroughs, and performing special moves was nearly impossible at first. After some headbanging, the problem seems to be that the movelist is calling for smooth Street Fighter-style quarter and half circles, but inserting the diagonals between the cardinal directions actually break things. Once I made that adjustment, I was pulling off moves more consistently. For better or worse.

Two more characters to go. I'm really gonna need some Quake after this...

Edit: The nightmare is over. I finished Duel with Voodoo and Sett Ra. Sett Ra is a beast and seems to be much more forgiving with special move commands, resulting in my fastest and highest scoring playthrough of this entire fiasco.

In collecting some Game Boy and Game Gear footage for a rainy day, I discovered that Duel Mode on Game Gear functions as a de facto Arcade Mode like the home console versions, so you can play that for a badge as well, if you hate playing as Shaq that much. And you will.

Tomorrow, we Quake.

Shaq Fu badges are all updated. Sorry about the clipping on some of them; it's hard to separate a sprite from black elements from the black background of the Character Select screen.

So... who else is gonna play this monstrosity?

I beat the story on SNES with Shaq twice. This game stinks.
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Sett Ra is terribly unbalanced. He’s got a midair spin move that cuts through a quarter of your health and can’t be blocked or countered. Combine that with the limited continues and you’ve got a recipe for aggravating final boss.

This is not the worst game I own, for the record. That dishonor goes to Men in Black: The Series (GBC). It’s a dreadful platformer you have to see to believe.

Renaissance2K wrote:

Just waiting on the post office

I gave the Fu a go, SNES version and tried the story mode, faced the first 3 fights as Shaq and.... failed all 3, yeah he sucks, especially against the fast cat-like lady. I then went to tournament mode and that was 2-player? So I've stuck with Quake 2 instead and I am making decent progress. I forgot how long and 'looping back over themselves' those levels could be. I never played the Quake series as a kid, but did play Doom so it feels familiar in some regards. I'm fairly certain that I'll get Quake 2 done before the end of the month, based on my pace thus far. Not sure about going back to Fu, suppose I will, just need to get the right version and mode to try with a better character vs. too tall Shaq.

Slickriven wrote:

Duel Mode is more like a traditional Arcade Mode. You pick a fighter and fight against all seven fighters (including yourself) once.

Special moves are a pain in the ass, but Sett Ra's Cosmic Missile (Down, Back, Kick) is much more forgiving than literally every other move I attempted. You can use it like a machine gun. Just connect with the first one, and the opponent will just stand there and take it until you stop firing or they die.

I cornered and crotch punched my way to victory in the Story mode.

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And here are some of the people you can blame this game on.

We coulda had Rumble Fish 2...

It was really close. I looked into getting Rumble Fish on my Dreamcast and started to type a blurb and look for sprites... and then Shaq won. We got dunked on.

I beat Quake 2, didn't think to get a #Beat-It snip, so I got one of the Achievement since it's dated which helps. Was decent, better than Quake 1, but Doom 1/2 are better still. Might give the Fu a little more time now with this done.

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I've been working my way through the original Quake.

I played the shareware episode a million times when I was younger. My family got its first real computer right at Quake's peak of popularity, and getting it to start up for the first time is one of a handful of gaming memories that will be burned into my brain forever. Playing through it again today, I'm still surprised at how much of the levels I still remember, like the path to unlock Nightmare mode or the six secrets in the first level.

I'm getting rocked pretty hard by the second episode, though. Ignoring the fact that I forgot Quick Save doesn't stick between sessions - you have to turn your Quick Save into a real save before you quit - the neverending onslaught of Ogres is making a mess of me. Still having a blast, though, and it was great to bump into Mr. Dopefish again.

So I finally played a copy of Shaq Fu on the Snes on the FC Combo (thanks again @Lunar for this system)

But I gotta tell yall …. We have been trolled …. Rickrolled ….. whatever the fudge yall
wanna call it.

I went from playing MK1 laggy af on xbsS to playing Shaq Fu.
Its not playable AT ALL wtaf people?!?

This is maybe one of the worst games I’ve ever even tried to play.
People have talked crap about games that other people have nominated
in the past including me but this is just disrespecting our little corner of gametz.
If you dont like our group or the games we collectively choose you are free to troll
Elsewhere. I thought a few games werent very good for reasons even last month
but they were still okay and had redeeming qualities.

Shaq Fu is the literal worst game we have ever played and if you voted highly
For it you are a troll and an butt-hole and feel free to leave.
Even a wrestling game that would be divisive is better than
the straight up trolling that this game is. Im sick of people fudging with other people
on the internet. Maybe you are too, but!, This is not the place to push peoples buttons.
If you wanna vote for a game just to piss people off, go the fudge away.
There are plenty of corners of the internet where your bs is welcomed.

When R2k said “what have we done?” I thought he was being funny and sarcastic …..
Unfortunately, he was not.

For the most part this group is welcoming but this proves that some of the
regulars dont care about this group or respect it. If you feel that way why are you
even still here?

And oh btw, I can’t wait for the backlash.

I had no issues with it. But I also played the remastered Nightdive Studios version

BleedingViolet wrote:

1. It's an infamous part of gaming history, like E.T. for the Atari 2600, Duke Nukem Forever, etc.

2. We're also playing Quake, which is both a really solid game and one of the most important shooters ever.

3. Having played all five ports, the SNES version is tied with the Game Gear as the one with the least enjoyable fight mechanics. It also happens to have the shortest campaign, though, so up to the player to do the calculus if they want to swallow a pill that's smaller or less bitter.

Is this game really worse than the arcade version of Bionic Commando? I'm a huge BC fan, and even I'd say that's the worst game we've ever played. I'm with @benstylus - Shaq Fu is bad, but it's nowhere near as bad as its reputation would suggest.

Thanks for your feedback. I hope you still stick around, and that you enjoy whatever gets voted in for March.

Kommie wrote:

So megadrive/genesis or an even better more cleaned up and modern version?

To be fair, I only played the Snes version but it is literal garbage.
I still plan to (finish or pass it) but it is maybe the WORST fighting game
Ive EVER played. Possibly the WORST GAME I’ve ever played.

I’m not exaggerating this game is terrible. Maybe worst ever.

BleedingViolet wrote:

My comment was in regards to the Quake Quick Save issue @Renaissance2K mentioned. Shaq Fu is trash

Shaq Fu's biggest crime is that it is in the middle of the venn diagram of mediocre/bad games, and games literally no one was asking to be made.

At least Bubsy 3D was a sequel in a relatively popular series.

It’s way WORSE than bionic commando, are you being serious?

This game is fudging garbage. It’s not a fighting game and it’s not an enjoyable game on the Snes.
Maybe the Genesis version is better I dont care, people literally voted for this game to fudge with other people.
Tell me how I’m wrong in saying that?

BleedingViolet wrote:

I voted for it.

If it weren't for the FPS companion this month I would feel bad. But you have a perfectly good and enjoyable game to play for this thread. Just ignore the 'Fu.

Kommie wrote:

Okay I was wrong to think you were talking about Shaq Fu it is ….. maybe the worst ever.

Quake is awesome and I’m glad it won but I’m not great at it. It may take me all month actually.

benstylus wrote:

Im not an fps person many people are not, the ‘FU is literally an FU to people who take our
group seriously. I love Quake so far but I LOVE fighting games and Shaq Fu is literal garbage.
You know it is even as a joke vote,

BleedingViolet wrote:.

I actually remember thinking it wasn't so bad when I played it a few years back. But then I played as Leotsu and didn't bother with the story mode back then.

Playing as Shaq for this go-round and he just seems pretty useless. The corner crotch punch worked most of the time for me though.

It's good to be able to say you've experienced Shaq Fu firsthand. It's not the worst fighting game I've ever played though.

Leotsu is a beast, and Shaq is a disgrace. I want to know what happened in the board meeting where they decided the guy on the box should be the worst character in the game.

benstylus wrote:

Yeah but why is it good to say that? I LOVE fighting games and the snes version
Is literally the worst fighting game Ive ever played.

I have been drinking today which in my experience means it should be at least “okay”.
It is absolutely not okay. Its laggy despite NO INTERNET, its just a terrible game.

Im not an FPS person but I am a fighting game player, this is not a good game sir
on literally any level.

Lets pretend for a second I hated fighting games …..
If the Snes version of Shaq Fu was the only “fighting game” I had ever played?
I would NEVER want to play another one.

Saying we have Quake as a backup and oh woe is me we could have played rumble fish?
Cmon man you knew how this was going to go, I dont always put out games
Everyone else wants to play but at least I like/love those games (shining force/beautyand the beast belles quest)

Do you actually even like Shaq Fu ….. because as big of a Shaq Lakers fan as I am I really dislike
This game. (At least on Snes)

If you wanted us to vote different ways fine just say that. Be more vociferous about it.
But passive aggressive crap has never worked inthis group as youve seen.
You have to be outspoken, afterall theres only 10 to 20 people ever even talking here.

This group can literally be whatever we want. Just speak up.

BleedingViolet wrote:

Not busting your balls, but admitting this explains things a little...

I only tried the FU for the 3 lives given to Shaq in the story and yeah it was bonkers as I got wrecked in no time flat. I cleansed that by beating the excellent Nightdive remaster of Quake 2.

I have the more recent redone Shaq game, would that count, instead of trying the dumpster that is the original?