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Thats some bullshizzle but alright I maybe gotta find another way then.

What about on PS3?

Lunar wrote:

I aint online with playstation (or nintendo) but that is a good point i should look into that.

Im not even sure if either PS3 works but if they do I guess thats the easiest route.
In theory anyways.

It's still on PS3. I bought it yesterday.

I added Daytona USA 2001 for Dreamcast to the "Play it on" list. I thought it was a totally new game, but it looks like the original Daytona tracks are included.

Thinking about how the Wii/360/PS3 are older than the Genesis and SNES were when I started collecting. *bones creak*

I loaded up the PS3 remake today, and it's massively easier than the original arcade version. I assume the same can be said for the Xbox 360 port, as I already have all three first place achievements in that one, and I don't remember that being brutal either.

Finished the Beginner track in first, but I wasn't capturing, so I'll do it later for the credit and for badge footage.

Just post a time. I think it'll be interesting to see everyone's time.

Snap a pic of your time at the end.

Definitely controls better and higher fps, the Saturn one is like 23fps or something.

Lunar wrote:

Oh, that sounds like fun.

I'll make a medal badge for each track. Fastest time at the end of the month gets the badge.

So, Y'ALL GO PLAY THE GAME, K?

Not my personal best, I fudgeed up Lap 6.

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I beat track 1 and 2 tonight. Used emulation of the Saturn title, but I'm still considering digging out my Saturn as the memories flood back.
I'll include some snips once I get track 3 as well. But my times were:
Track 1 - overall: 2:29.32 Best Lap: 18.46
Track 2 - overall: 3:14.24 Best Lap: 46.45
Both I used the Saturn mode that gives you access to other cars that you unlock with different stats and I used the better Blue car with A ratings.
I went back to the Arcade mode for my track 3 attempts and you're only allowed the original car that has like C and D or B and C ratings - I think for grip and power, but I forget.

With more time, I know I can get better, I put so much time into this game, but wow I don't miss digital steering inputs.
I've got the Dreamcast port as well, and I gave that a shot last night but didn't win nor play very long.

Wait, @Renaissance2K do we have to play the Championship Circuit Edition on the ? I owned the original 'vanilla' title and just beat that and then saw you listed the CCE version and tried that and it's rather different - controls differently, has more tracks and more cars. I'm so much more used to the vanilla version that CCE feels icky to me, I mean it's better for sure, but it's just pretty foreign.
I'd even say that the DC version feels a little more like the original Saturn one, but the DC one is SO touchy with the analog stick, at least via emulation with an X1 controller.

Slickriven wrote:

The Wikipedia page for Daytona USA made it sound like it was a re-release of the original with more stuff, so I included it as an option, alongside the other ports. If it's that different, you're still welcome to play it for the badges, but we may want to hold off on using it to compare times.

Ok, yeah the CCE version is more feature rich and different from the arcade versions. I'll stick with the version I own on the console and used for my above posted times. Thanks

Got a personal best tonight: 2'24"60

Recorded too, doesn't change my place on Speedrun but I will submit it anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yGJS_Y3-co

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I beat the 3rd track tonight but set difficulty and enemy level to very easy, largely b/c I wanted to go for a cleaner run and that helped for sure. Some of that track is making sure you know each corner well.
Track 3 - overall: 3:43.32 Best Lap: 1:48.54 - on Very Easy

With more runs on that track I'm getting better with things and will up the difficulty/skill and run more. Oh and the cars in Saturn Mode have A-D ranking for Acceleration and Grip and the standard car is Accel: B and Grip: C - after beating the 2nd track I unlocked the B/B car set (auto and manual), need to see if I unlocked more after beating the 3rd track.

OP is finally updated with badges for the three races. I'll create the time trial badges next and compile all the times.

Anybody else planning on getting behind the wheel?

Also, for you achievement/trophy hunters out there, this game is a breeze to 100%.

I'm so far finding it harder than Rayman but only because I only just started playing
it on Tuesday. I wasnt feeling motivated to look for my PS3 so I got drunk and started
Cleaning and found it. I had to set up my PS profile (which it turns out I still had one)
And then was drunk driving in the game for awhile. Don’t try that at home kids!

I only was playing the first track on very easy with automatic but I never got
all 8 laps before the time ran out even though I always finished in first place.
It is a very fun game though and reminded me of why I loved the Dreamcast
so much. It has such an arcade-y feel which makes me happy. I plan on playing more
soon though I’m prolly just not utilizing all my abilities in game so far.
But I do like it, however the attract music track? No thanks y’all.
I only managed one trophy so far though. Prolly my first ever.

As we approach the end of June, here's the list of players that have had the Daytona USA soundtrack stuck in their heads for three weeks straight:

Lunar {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/3Ld2GOd.gif 80 60{imgt} Renaissance2K {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/77BtpHO.gif 89 66{imgt} {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/3Ld2GOd.gif 80 60{imgt} {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/LDCcqBR.gif 80 60{imgt} {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/yDEFz13.gif 80 60{imgt} Slickriven {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/3Ld2GOd.gif 80 60{imgt} {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/LDCcqBR.gif 80 60{imgt} {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/yDEFz13.gif 80 60{imgt}

I've been messing around with various versions of Daytona USA, and I very quickly concluded that the badge requirements for this month might be a little rough, given how unforgiving the game can be. Moving forward, finish the race without timing out to earn the badge for the respective circuit. Those of us who are still craving a challenge can continue to post times, and the fastest time in each circuit will earn a medal badge. If that means you should now get a badge given a past race, please post here so I can update your collection.

And yes, I know... I still haven't actually posted the medal badges. It's been quite the month.

In the meantime, let's start taking nominations for the July Game of the Month. What retro game should we all play next month?

We'll start voting on June 26 and call the winner on July 1.

Let's hear some nominees!

I nominate the Pikmin series. Given that Pikmin 4 releases in July and the first two games just got remastered today, now’s the perfect time to play ‘em.

Finally... Here are the medals for best times and the current standings.

{imgt}https://i.imgur.com/trTRKFk.png 82 150{imgt} 1. Lunar 2'24"60 2. Renaissance2K 2'28"98 3. Slickriven 2'29"01

{imgt}https://i.imgur.com/vxBQJF5.png 82 150{imgt} 1. Slickriven 3'14"24 2. Renaissance2K 3'38"07 3. ---

{imgt}https://i.imgur.com/AslEKoO.png 82 150{imgt} 1. Slickriven 3'43"32 2. Renaissance2K 4'13"10 3. ---

Please continue to post your completions and times. Remember: all you need to do is finish the race before time runs out to get the badge for each level.

And don't forget to nominate games for next month!

I nominate Blaster Master: Enemy Below.

3rd place on the first track?!?! I better step up my game and try to do better.

Slickriven wrote:

By 0.03 seconds!

Renaissance2K wrote:

Haha I didn't even notice it was that close.

Renaissance2K wrote:

Took another run and got down to 2:28.13, want to try a few more times to see if I can get closer to Lunar's 2:24, will post my best time via a screen-snip once I stop.

So after a handful of runs and restarting in mid-race a few times after screwing up, thanks to that cool Saturn option of Start > X/Y/Z buttons and then even tweaking the difficulty to be harder so I didn't have as many rolling roadblocks due to other cars that were more of my impediments vs. that final corner - which I started to nail pretty well. I got my time down to 2:26.63, including proof.

I noted that my best lap was only 18.07 and I was more apt to land in the 18.15 - 18.35 range on good laps, since with less traffic you don't get the draft as much and get above 191MPH. With the higher difficulty, I was only finally reaching the leader on the 7th or 8th lap and had less lap traffic, but still had the full 40 car field. When I realized that Lunar's 2:24.6 would mean I would need to average under 18.1 to be really close to that I called it quits with my 2:26.63

Imma nominate two games

Amped 2 (original Xbox)

and

Myst (available almost everywhere including Jaguar CD lol)

Any more nominations? If we don't hit five, I'll amp the list with some games that are getting big anniversaries next month. There are actually some nice choices.

We had four nominees for the July 2023 Game of the Month. While I would normally just pick a game with a big birthday coming up to bring the list to five, there were two options that I simply couldn't decide between; three, if you also count Knights of the Old Republic, but I took pity on this thread after an already RPG-heavy year. Here are the six nominees for July:

Nominees
Pikmin franchise
Blaster Master: Enemy Below
Amped 2
Myst and pretty much every platform that ever existed
Radiant Silvergun (released for Saturn in July 2003)
Bionic Commando (released for NES/Famicom in July 1988)

Either publicly in this thread or privately in a PM to me, give each nominee 0-5 points. Omitting a nominee is equivalent to giving it a vote of 0. The game with the highest score by the end of the month will be the July 2023 GOTM.

Here are my votes:

Pikmin franchise - 3 Blaster Master: Enemy Below - 4 Amped 2 - 3 Myst - 5 Radiant Silvergun - 4 Bionic Commando - 5

Why are you still sitting here reading this post when you could be voting?!

Here's the latest from the Daytona USA leaderboards, following Slickriven's latest jump:

{imgt}https://i.imgur.com/trTRKFk.png 82 150{imgt} 1. Lunar 2'24"60 2. Slickriven 2'26"63 3. Renaissance2K 2'28"98

{imgt}https://i.imgur.com/vxBQJF5.png 82 150{imgt} 1. Slickriven 3'14"24 2. Renaissance2K 3'38"07 3. ---

{imgt}https://i.imgur.com/AslEKoO.png 82 150{imgt} 1. Slickriven 3'43"32 2. Renaissance2K 4'13"10 3. ---

Blaster Master 5

Pikmin franchise - 5
Once again a situation of me not owning the other games, or in Blaster Master’s case, not wanting to play that particular game.

Blaster Master - 5
Radiant - 5

Blaster Master: Enemy Below - 5

Great choice @BloodPuppetX!

SupremeSarna wrote:

I don't blame you for not wanting to pay for a game you may not enjoy, but just for the sake of anyone with the same reservations that wants to play a game legally and not want to pay a lot...

Pikmin 1 is available for $29.99 on the Nintendo eShop.

Blaster Master: Enemy Below is included with Nintendo Switch Online.

Myst: Masterpiece Edition is available for $5.99 on Steam and GOG.

Radiant Silvergun is discounted to $13.99 on the Nintendo eShop and is also available on the Xbox Store for the regular price $14.99.

Bionic Commando: Re-armed is available on Steam for $9.99. It used to be available on the other eShops as well, but I guess it's been de-listed.

I don't think Amped 2 is available anywhere digitally.

Does re Armed count?

Kommie wrote:

For as long as I've been here, we've always allowed remasters/remakes as well as the originals. I remember the Crash Bandicoot collection being used as an example.

Ah, OK. I do have Re Armed on Steam....

Bionic commando: 5
Pikmin: 2

I beat Myst just last year, don't want to play again right now. Beat Blaster Master Zero a few months ago, so meh on the similar GBC version. I suck at Radiant Silvergun that I bought for Xbox a while back.

Bionic Commando - 5

Myst - -10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Bionic Command - 5

Foxhack wrote:

In its defense, it's an important piece of gaming history. Like Superman 64.

Renaissance2K wrote:

Watching paint dry is more entertaining than Myst and only slightly less than playing Superman 64.

Myst was a cool game when I was a kid, the series had an effect on me too, heck it's in part of my username. But even the remastered version that turned the painfully slow 4-panel view into a full first person walking sim with puzzles didn't really change it for the better when it came out. I beat it in 2021 and it's simply not something I want to beat again ~2 years later.

Finished Golden Sun this morning, after a couple of brutal attempts at the final boss. The whole "Using a Djinn makes you less powerful" mechanic was never really a problem until you encounter a handful of subsequent bosses that can kill you in one or two hits.

In any case...

As a GBA launch title and a rare RPG from Nintendo, this was pretty good, and it must have been an awesome companion for a portable. For me, in modern days, I kept wishing things would move a little faster. I didn't like equipping Djinn to unlock "navigation" Psynergy (sup, Growth) and while I think the "use magic to solve puzzles" mechanic is neat, the hitboxes for some of the most-used spells like Catch and Move were really frustrating. I hate not knowing if the issue is with my solution or with what pixel I happen to be standing on.

But I do like hunting down special summons to make myself stronger. I like that you use Djinn to charge up massive summon spells, and that those summons are powerful enough to warrant all the legwork. The casino area was a blast, both in terms of story development and all the little mini-games. And I like that I finally played a game that I've known about since the "Peak GBA" era.

Renaissance2K wrote:

Are you talking about Tolbi? It's the highlight of the game, I find. Great music, fun minigames, it takes a lot of effort to reach (thanks for nothing, Kraken), and it introduces that Colosso obstacle course. Fun and memorable stuff all around!

SupremeSarna wrote:

Yup, definitely Tolbi. I just hit the Tolbi track in the soundtrack (it's my post-game ritual to listen to a game's official soundtrack) and got the warm fuzzies all over again.

Last day for votes! If you're a closet Myst lover, now's your chance to shine.

Pikmin series - 10

Myst - 4

Darn, was really hoping for Blaster Master but it looks like Myst is going to win.

Scott wrote:

I was joking. Myst tanked pretty hard.

That's weird, I could have sworn I remembered several people voting for it. Guess not!

must have myst it.

Myst is absolute rubbish so you guys made a good decision.

I’ve never even played Myst all the way through (I only ever started it a couple times)
but I always wanted to.
I sure af did not nominate it to troll the group. (We swears it) (insert gollum gif here 😉)
Personally, I love chill point and click puzzle type games and
considering how much Myst did to validate the genre I always
wanted to finally play it through. I recently played most of
The Witness and was hoping Myst would be similar.

I don’t care that it doesnt win, I just like there to be
different stuff nominated every month. That being said I might as
well put some points on it since its the last day to vote. 💜

Myst - 5
Amped 2 - 5

So I finally popped back onto the PS3 to beat the beginners track of Daytona USA.
Total time was 2’45”17

As I am posting this that song is making my skin crawl 🤮 just the main guy singing,
The music itself is good and so is the backing vocalist but the main guy? No.

Edit I also finished the advanced cicuit track too just now
Total time was 3’57”50

Another edit I just finished the Expert circuit track too.
Total time was 4’20”57 best lap was 2’06”96

It also got me my second ever trophy on Playstation 😉
Unless you can get Trophies offline in Vita games but I dont count that since
I didn’t have it in mah profile. Oh well. Anyways that was fun mostly 😃

I'm buying Myst tonight in preparation.

Lol 😂

DAYYY-TOOOO-NAAAAAAAAAAAH ... HAS GONE AWAY! (has gone away) Here's the final leaderboard for our time trial challenge:

{imgt}https://i.imgur.com/trTRKFk.png 82 150{imgt} 1. Lunar 2'24"60 2. Slickriven 2'26"63 3. Renaissance2K 2'28"98

{imgt}https://i.imgur.com/vxBQJF5.png 82 150{imgt} 1. Slickriven 3'14"24 2. Renaissance2K 3'38"07 3. BleedingViolet 3'57"50

{imgt}https://i.imgur.com/AslEKoO.png 82 150{imgt} 1. Slickriven 3'43"32 2. Renaissance2K 4'13"10 3. BleedingViolet 4'20"57

Congrats to Lunar and Slickriven for demonstrating that the truth is in the drift. Here's all the badges we've earned this month:

BleedingViolet {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/3Ld2GOd.gif 80 60{imgt} {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/LDCcqBR.gif 80 60{imgt} {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/yDEFz13.gif 80 60{imgt} Lunar {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/3Ld2GOd.gif 80 60{imgt} {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/trTRKFk.png 82 150{imgt} Renaissance2K {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/77BtpHO.gif 89 66{imgt} {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/3Ld2GOd.gif 80 60{imgt} {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/LDCcqBR.gif 80 60{imgt} {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/yDEFz13.gif 80 60{imgt} {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/NF3MqQj.gif 80 80{imgt} Slickriven {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/3Ld2GOd.gif 80 60{imgt} {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/LDCcqBR.gif 80 60{imgt} {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/yDEFz13.gif 80 60{imgt} {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/vxBQJF5.png 82 150{imgt} {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/AslEKoO.png 82 150{imgt}

Many thanks to everyone who greased their wheels and listened to the unapologetically-awesome soundtrack.

It was another nailbiting vote, even amidst - or should I say, a-Myst some of the hate for a few of the titles. Nevertheless, here's the tally for July's Game of the Month:

1. Bionic Commando - 20 points
2. Blaster Master: Enemy Below - 19 points
3. Myst - 14 points
4. Pikmin franchise - 10 points
5. Radiant Silvergun - 9 points
6. Amped 2 - 8 points

Bionic Commando swung into arcades intent on being a successor to Capcom's Commando, but the game's protagonist - who used a bionic telescopic arm to swing through levels and get the drop on enemies - made the title stand out among the other run-and-guns on the scene. After a number of direct ports to home computers, Capcom reimagined the game for the NES and Game Boy with more levels, faster gameplay, and unforgettable soundtracks. Both the arcade original and the console versions have been re-released countless times over the years as mainstays in Capcom collections, but Bionic Commando Re-armed for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, a "more than a remaster" reboot that enhances the NES classic's levels and mechanics with modern graphics, gave the franchise a brief second wind and kicked off a generation of retro remakes.

Honestly, I think the arcade game is trash, but it's retro, it's quick, and it's easy to find on nearly every platform so it'd be a shame not to include it in the month's fesitivites. The real gems, though - if you ask me - are the console ports. (Or, you could always play one of each...)

Play the original arcade release of Bionic Commando on
Arcade
MS-DOS
Amiga
Commodore 64
PlayStation 2 (Capcom Classics Collection Vol. 1)
Xbox (Capcom Classics Collection Vol. 1)
PSP (Capcom Classics Collection Remixed)
Windows (Capcom Arcade Cabinet)
PlayStation 4 (Capcom Arcade Cabinet)
Xbox One (Capcom Arcade Cabinet)
Switch (Capcom Arcade Cabinet)
{imgt}https://mister-devel.github.io/MkDocs_MiSTer/asset... 15 15{imgt} MiSTer
{imgt}https://i.imgur.com/XjIBwho.gif 77 16{imgt} Evercade VS

Play the console releases of Bionic Commando on
NES
Game Boy
Game Boy Advance (Capcom Classics Mini Mix)
3DS (Game Boy Virtual Console)

Play Bionic Commando Re-armed
Windows
Xbox 360
PlayStation 3

Finish Bionic Commando or its remaster to earn the Rad Spencer badge: {imgt}https://i.imgur.com/fnBW63H.gif 132 75{imgt}

It don't mean a thing if you ain't got that swing, but consider posting a #BeatIt once you complete it.

I haven't really played Bionic Commando on Capcom Arcade, so I'll likely finish that.

Let's get this party started. I booted up the MiSTer, loaded up my first arcade game in a while, and played through the original arcade version of Bionic Commando.

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Okay, I may have been a little harsh earlier. It's not total trash - the Bionic Commando theme does make an appearance here, which would justify any game's existence - but not being able to chain swings or shoot in the air is a real bummer. The vertical segments where you're just fighting through a mille feuille of enemies are also really annoying.

But it could be worse. It's also relatively painless to credit spam.

I considered getting the GBC game on the 3DS eShop, but ultimately let it go. Guess I shoulda bought it instead of Harvest Moon, huh?

If you have the Capcom Arcade Collection or Arena (99% sure they're free on X1/SX or PS4/5) @SupremeSarna then it's only like $2 for Bionic Commando. I would've gone that route but I've got other means since I didn't apparently have the 360 Rearmed copy which I thought I did.

On the Steams:

https://store.steampowered.com/sub/1898/ - $3.19 for the Reboot and Rearmed

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1556707/Capcom_... $1 for the Arcade one

The reboot on Steam has some issues, but is mostly playable. I haven't touched Rearmed in seven years, though...

Re Armed is apparently not playable on Windows 10, FYI

I bought the xbox one version digitally last night for $1.99.
Since they let you buy each game individually instead of
buying the whole Capcom Collection. I plan to start playing it soon.

Will there be different badges for playing the different versions
or just the one badge for every version like was previously stated?
I don't know that i would play through more than one version
but maybe if there were other badges, or maybe if someone else
wanted to play other versions too idk. Otherwise it looks like
it will be a pretty short gotm convo on here.

Kommie wrote:

The suggestions here fixed it for me:
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Bionic_Commando_...

TL;DR - Install legacy PhysX drivers next to the modern ones, and download a new executable that doesn't use more than 4 CPU cores.

Happy 4th of July, everyone. What better way to show patriotism than to tell a bunch of robotic Nazis to shove it.

As someone who's been a fan of the franchise since I was a teenager but never actually played the NES game until this week, I feel like I just took a bite of a delicious meal that I've been saving. I feel like the mechanics and some of the cutscenes are ever-so-slightly jankier than the Game Boy version, but it was still a lot of fun. Gotta love the soundtrack, too.

Happy 4th to you too! And erryone else as well!

I just beat Bionic Commando which was incredibly easy to
credit spam as mentioned. On series S from the
Capcom Arcade Stadium.

I think this may have been one of the worst games
we’ve played yet. Granted I played the Arcade version but
Its really just an annoying game with terrible implementation
of any of its unique ideas. Like I get that its a really old game
and most things on the NES at the time were prolly equally
as sloppy and slow af but still, if I were playing this in the arcade
(because it was clearly the only game there if I felt compelled to play it)
and it were stealing all my money just to beat it I woulda been furious.
I’m sure theres some rando speed runner out there who
beat it without taking any damage but still, this is not the
game thats worth getting that good at it.
I do plan on playing it more later for achievements
since there are modes like maybe high scores
or ranked. But there are things I wish were better or more fun
or whatever. I dont know how Capcom put this out there.
The NES version HAS TO BE better than this even though
the graphics are prolly much worse in comparison.

Did people vote for this just because it could be beaten in under an hour?
Has anyone here ever played this before?

Yeah, it sucks. I'm up to stage 4 and don't even want to finish it. Maybe the other versions are better. Blaster Master definitely would have been better!

BloodPuppetX wrote:

The NES and GB versions are much, much, much better. It's like comparing Street Fighter: The Movie to Street Fighter II.

I haven't played the GBC version, but I hedge that it's better as well, just because of how low the bar is set by the arcade game.

Street Fighter the movie was actually fun too though.

Hang in there the game is almost over @BloodPuppetX
I know Blaster Master would have been better. I forgot to put any points
on it since I couldnt go back on mobile to see what the other nominees were
or what was looking like it was winning.
Also I kinda get why people were hesitant since it was a Gameboy game.
I think I have it on a memory card for my super retrocade but i would have
rather played it legit just like always if I can.
I loved the original Blaster Master anyways, its like one of my
favorite NES games. Prolly top 10 for me on the system.

BleedingViolet wrote:

The PS1 port is a reskinned and rebalanced Super Street Fighter II. The original arcade game is extremely janky and broken as hell, but it's really fun when played with friends.

I'll see if I can actually reinstall the Bionic Commando reboot later in the week. I wonder how it'll run on my current system...