Bad Traders

Bad Trader Reports on DrunkPollock

DrunkPollock BTRs12-Apr-2008
Status: active
Reporter: Toma21

I sent him 2 games on CAG, for a trade for 1 game, but he never was planning on sending his end, and never did.

DrunkPollock BTRs12-Apr-2008
Status: active
Reporter: Dragunz

This guy has ripped of me and 20+ other CheapAssGamers. He has claimed to have shipped everything out but no one has received their items. Now he is making some bullcrap story that his prior convited felon that was this roommate scammed everyone. I highly doubt anything he says it true.

DrunkPollock BTRs17-Sep-2006
Status: active
Reporter: fatherofcaitlyn

These games were missing from the shipment:

1) Arc the Lad Collection (PlayStation) [Condition: very good; Box: yes; Manual: yes; Complete ]
2) Final Fantasy Tactics (PlayStation) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes; GH]
3) Grandia (PlayStation) [Condition: very good; Box: yes; Manual: yes]
4) Saiyuki: Journey West (PlayStation) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes]
5) Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter (PlayStation 2) [Condition: very good; Box: yes; Manual: yes]
16) Growlanser Generations (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes; Standard Edition]
17) La Pucelle: Tactics (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes]
18) Looney Tunes: Space Race (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] - MISSING GAME
20) Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes; GH]
21) Ring of Red (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: no]
23) Shadow of the Colossus (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes]
24) Shining Tears (PlayStation 2) [Condition: very good; Box: yes; Manual: yes]
26) Suikoden III (PlayStation 2) [Condition: very good; Box: yes; Manual: yes]
27) Suikoden Tactics (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: no; Manual: no; Disc Only]
31) The Bard's Tale (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes]
32) Broken Sword: The Sleeping Dragon (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes]
38) Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes]
39) Destroy All Humans! (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes]
42) Full Spectrum Warrior (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes]
46) GunValkyrie (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes]
47) Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusaders (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes]
50) Ninja Gaiden Black (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes]
51) Phantom Crash (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes]
55) Sid Meier's Pirates! (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes]
59) Unreal Championship 2: The Liandri Conflict (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes]

Here were the original contents of the trade:
1) Arc the Lad Collection (PlayStation) [Condition: very good; Box: yes; Manual: yes; Complete ] 7
2) Final Fantasy Tactics (PlayStation) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes; GH] 4
3) Grandia (PlayStation) [Condition: very good; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
4) Saiyuki: Journey West (PlayStation) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 4
5) Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter (PlayStation 2) [Condition: very good; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
6) Champions of Norrath: Realms of EverQuest (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
7) Champions: Return to Arms (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
8) Culdcept (PlayStation 2) [Condition: very good; Box: no; Manual: no; Disc Only] 1
9) Endgame (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
10) Everblue 2 (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
11) Final Fantasy X-2 (PlayStation 2) [Condition: very good; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
12) Frequency (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: no; Manual: no; Disc Only] 1
13) Front Mission 4 (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
14) Grand Theft Auto III (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes; GH] 6
15) Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
16) Growlanser Generations (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes; Standard Edition] 6
17) La Pucelle: Tactics (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
18) Looney Tunes: Space Race (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
19) Ninja Assault (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
20) Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes; GH] 6
21) Ring of Red (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: no] 5
22) Road Trip (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes; Car RPG] 6
23) Shadow of the Colossus (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
24) Shining Tears (PlayStation 2) [Condition: very good; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
25) Stella Deus: The Gate of Eternity (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
26) Suikoden III (PlayStation 2) [Condition: very good; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
27) Suikoden Tactics (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: no; Manual: no; Disc Only] 1
28) Time Crisis II (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes; Disc Only] 1
29) Xenosaga: Episode I: Der Wille Zur Macht (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes; GH] 6
30) American McGee Presents: Scrapland (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
31) The Bard's Tale (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
32) Broken Sword: The Sleeping Dragon (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
33) Brute Force (Xbox) [Condition: good; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
34) Burnout 3: Take Down (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
35) The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
36) Cold Fear (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
37) Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
38) Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
39) Destroy All Humans! (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
40) Doom 3 -- Limited Collector's Edition (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
41) The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: no; Manual: no; Disc Only] 1
42) Full Spectrum Warrior (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
43) Fuzion Frenzy (Xbox) [Condition: good; Box: yes; Manual: no] 5
44) Gladius (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: no; Manual: no; Disc Only] 1
45) Gun (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: no; Manual: yes] 2
46) GunValkyrie (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
47) Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusaders (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
48) Midtown Madness 3 (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
49) Need for Speed: Underground (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
50) Ninja Gaiden Black (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
51) Phantom Crash (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
52) Rallisport Challenge (Xbox) [Condition: very good; Box: yes; Manual: no] 5
53) Serious Sam (Xbox) [Condition: good; Box: yes; Manual: no] 5
54) Shattered Union (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: no; Manual: no; Disc Only] 1
55) Sid Meier's Pirates! (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
56) Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
57) Sudeki (Xbox) [Condition: very good; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
58) The Thing (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: no; Manual: no; Disc Only] 1
59) Unreal Championship 2: The Liandri Conflict (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6
60) Wrath Unleashed (Xbox) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes] 6

There are 51 current generation game cases involved and 9 games without cases.
Based on average weight of discs, instruction manuals, cases and insert art, the weight BEFORE the additional items, the actual weight of the shipping box and any packing material should have been over 19 pounds.
As you can see in the following pictures, the shipping label reads 15 pounds.
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Both images were modified to obscure street addresses and towns. In the second picture, the box had all packing material removed to maximize available space.
As you can see in this picture, the box is slightly less than 10 inches.
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To show how completely impossible the assertion of a full shipment is, the box was emptied of all games and packing material. Then, games were put into the box in the most efficient manner possible.

As you can see in the following pictures, the box can only hold 50 cases BEFORE additional freebie items are included.

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When only a portion of additional freebie items are included, the box can only hold 44 cases. Another 3DO case and 2 SNES cartridges were not put into the box.

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Response from Accused "Bad Trader": (17-Sep-2006)
All games were shipped and insured when they left my possession. I don't care about his calculations, I know what I shipped. I was happy with the price he gave me. I wouldn't even consider trying to rip him off.

I think he has mixed up his orders and games with someone elses.