Bad Traders


Bad Traders Reported by volt1up

GaminDaddy007 BTRs15-Nov-2009
Status: active
Aliases: Donald Wilson
Email: ThA-JoKeR-007@live.com
Address: 16690 Ore Claim Trail Lathrop,CA 95330
Reporter: volt1up

Our trade was pended Sept 28th
he received from me on October 5th
I have yet to receive my promised $20 from our trade. (Was $15, he bumped it to $20 if I waited, I did and still nothing)

Zelgadis BTRs3-May-2006
Status: active
Aliases: Malice
Email: illuminati_sancti@charter.net
Emails: illuminati_sancti@charter.net
Address: 1900 Overland Drive, Overland Missouri
Reporter: volt1up

This trade was first agreed upon on 15-Mar-2006 at 10:18am(whihc would make this trade WELL over a month old)

I sent on 16-Mar-2006.
Tracking number: 0304 1560 0007 0934 6277

Message regarding when the Item was received:
Your item was delivered at 9:48 am on March 18, 2006 in SAINT LOUIS, MO 63114.

We BOTH agreed to send immediately,first class.I was supposed to receive Animal Crossing (GameCube) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes; Great Game],He got *because i actually sent) Copy of Ps2 Champions of Norrath: Realms of EverQuest (PlayStation 2) [Condition: excellent; Box: yes; Manual: yes; EXCELLENT CONDITION ONLY OPENED].Basically he NEVER sent,upon agreement of the trade I received his address but no name,I didnt consider it a problem since I knew it would still get to the right location(and it did as evidenced by the tracking number) I wanted to send as soon as possible so I didnt have time to inquire about his name.I contacted him on the 23rd about why my game still hadnt arrived,his reponse on the 25th:

"a package was recived but had no name on it so my Grandmother put return to sender on it. Since she had no idea it was for me."

LOL

I sent him 2 more mesages:
"on 30-Mar-2006 at 5:57pm volt1up: Either way you didnt live up to your end of the deal by sending at the same time,which you obviously didnt do,I didnt receive my game back yet,and Im thinking nobody actually sent it,but since you know I have and WOULD live up to my end of the deal,could you PLEASE send your game already? If your grandmother really sent the game back I'll ship it right back,Ive proven myself reliable,so please send your game already man,this is ridiculous.
on 25-Mar-2006 at 4:08pm volt1up: Dude you cant be serious,It had no name on it because you didnt provide a name on your details,all i was given was an address.:"

I NEVER received my game back.So i am out 1 ps2 game.

He didnt respond on gametz after that but sent me emails,I will paste our conversation here.Im T.G.,he states that I agreed to send first,wrong,check the trade report.I will paste links to screen caps because the the text is hard to read,but I will include the text below as well.Thanks.Hopefully this guy gets permanently banned.You can see he starts making excuses after I present him with a copy of the trade report.

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/8650/correspond...



-----------------Emails------------------------

Malice
to me
More options Mar 30
When end of the deal you pickedf send first, So i have lived to my end of
the deal it not my faught you lable your package wrong, I recived nothing
from you I assumed that unamed package was from you, But i really have no
way of knowing of it was or wasn't.
----- Original Message -----
From: "GameTZ Trading System" <moderators22406@gametz.com>
To: <Zelgadis@gametz.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:57 PM
Subject: [GameTZ] Trade Message


Zelgadis,

volt1up sends this trade message:

Either way you didnt live up to your end of the deal by sending at the same
time,which you obviously didnt do,I didnt receive my game back yet,and Im
thinking nobody actually sent it,but since you know I have and WOULD live up
to my end of the deal,could you PLEASE send your game already? If your
grandmother really sent the game back I'll ship it right back,Ive proven
myself reliable,so please send your game already man,this is ridiculous.
- Show quoted text -

You can view the full details of this trade here:

http://gametz.com/?A=My+Trades&View=186773

Thanks,

GameTZ Trading System

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T. G.
to Malice
More options Mar 30
Heres a copy of the trade report,It clearly states "both send immediately" "first class".And no I didnt get my details wrong,I printed out the details,exactly, as they were presented to me on the trade report,if you didnt add your name that wasnt my fault,I didnt have time to get them from you,because I wanted to send as soon as possible,and I did,deal was completed the 15th,I shipped the 16th.

Regardless of all of that ,my point is no you didnt ship as you were supposed to.

from the tracking number:
"Your item was delivered at 9:48 am on March 18, 2006 in SAINT LOUIS, MO 63114.
Acceptance, March 16, 2006, 12:09 pm, SAN BERNARDINO, CA 92401 "

Its the 30th now,when was my package sent back that you know of? It shoudlnt have taken this long,If i receive my package fine,I'll call the whole thing,despite not doing anything wrong on my end,and having had to pay for shipping + tracking.

If you really want to resolve this,why cant you send your game?Its easy enough man,The confirmation # is there as proof that it was received,If i get my game back,great as long you sent yours,I'll ship again.Peace.
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On 3/30/06, Malice < illuminati_sancti@charter.net> wrote:

When end of the deal you pickedf send first, So i have lived to my end of
the deal it not my faught you lable your package wrong, I recived nothing
from you I assumed that unamed package was from you, But i really have no
way of knowing of it was or wasn't.
----- Original Message -----
From: "GameTZ Trading System" <moderators22406@gametz.com>
To: <Zelgadis@gametz.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:57 PM
Subject: [GameTZ] Trade Message


Zelgadis,

volt1up sends this trade message:

Either way you didnt live up to your end of the deal by sending at the same
time,which you obviously didnt do,I didnt receive my game back yet,and Im
thinking nobody actually sent it,but since you know I have and WOULD live up
to my end of the deal,could you PLEASE send your game already? If your
grandmother really sent the game back I'll ship it right back,Ive proven
myself reliable,so please send your game already man,this is ridiculous.

You can view the full details of this trade here:

http://gametz.com/?A=My+Trades&View=186773

Thanks,

GameTZ Trading System



Trade.rar
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Malice
to me
More options Mar 31
Cause why would I ship a game without receiving something, And it's not my faught you didn't get my name, The address ect is a automated system that GameTZ does not me you could of looked on my page & saw what my name was. Sorry you haven't recived your game back, But that's not really my problem. That something to do with the post office and nothing I can do about it.

Jason
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----- Original Message -----
From: T.G.
To: Malice
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [GameTZ] Trade Message

Heres a copy of the trade report,It clearly states "both send immediately" "first class".And no I didnt get my details wrong,I printed out the details,exactly, as they were presented to me on the trade report,if you didnt add your name that wasnt my fault,I didnt have time to get them from you,because I wanted to send as soon as possible,and I did,deal was completed the 15th,I shipped the 16th.

Regardless of all of that ,my point is no you didnt ship as you were supposed to.

from the tracking number:
"Your item was delivered at 9:48 am on March 18, 2006 in SAINT LOUIS, MO 63114.
Acceptance, March 16, 2006, 12:09 pm, SAN BERNARDINO, CA 92401 "

Its the 30th now,when was my package sent back that you know of? It shoudlnt have taken this long,If i receive my package fine,I'll call the whole thing,despite not doing anything wrong on my end,and having had to pay for shipping + tracking.

If you really want to resolve this,why cant you send your game?Its easy enough man,The confirmation # is there as proof that it was received,If i get my game back,great as long you sent yours,I'll ship again.Peace.



On 3/30/06, Malice < illuminati_sancti@charter.net> wrote:

When end of the deal you pickedf send first, So i have lived to my end of
the deal it not my faught you lable your package wrong, I recived nothing
from you I assumed that unamed package was from you, But i really have no
way of knowing of it was or wasn't.
----- Original Message -----
From: "GameTZ Trading System" <moderators22406@gametz.com>
To: <Zelgadis@gametz.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:57 PM
Subject: [GameTZ] Trade Message


Zelgadis,

volt1up sends this trade message:

Either way you didnt live up to your end of the deal by sending at the same
time,which you obviously didnt do,I didnt receive my game back yet,and Im
thinking nobody actually sent it,but since you know I have and WOULD live up
to my end of the deal,could you PLEASE send your game already? If your
grandmother really sent the game back I'll ship it right back,Ive proven
myself reliable,so please send your game already man,this is ridiculous.

You can view the full details of this trade here:

http://gametz.com/?A=My+Trades&View=186773

Thanks,

GameTZ Trading System



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T. G.
to Malice
More options Mar 31
"Cause why would I ship a game without receiving something" because those were the terms agreed upon.Why would I send a game without receiving something? Because those were the terms ,and because you have a BTR man.

"That something to do with the post office and nothing I can do about it."

Actually you can,you can send your game,to ease my mind about it.Again you already know that I'll ship.Its not just that youd be putting my mind at ease,youd be living up to your part of the agreement,its a very basic thing man."