VideoGame_Discussion

Feeb wrote:

i read it won’t support streaming ps plus (extra/premium) games, for some reason.

MrBean wrote:

To be fair the PS5 uses regular USB audio for headsets, same as PC, and Xbox is the one with gay proprietary BS. Same with storage expansion.

longhornsk57 wrote:

People are still using "gay" as an insult?

That's not very kind.

Next time you say it, I hope you at least imagine replacing it with "Texan". Might hit a little closer to home, and you might start figuring out why it's a crappy thing to say.

Weird that people on here still manage to turn the most innocuous statement with an obvious completely different usage of a word to white night and virtue signal.

If you actually understood the nuance of language you'd see you are actually being the bigoted one by equating being gay literally as a bad thing.

You can use Texan however you want honestly the predominantly liberal population of this site already does that kind of thing and I'm not so fragile I'd actually care.

longhornsk57 wrote:

If you understood the nuance of language you would know the difference between night and knight.

And accusing someone of virtue signaling almost always means "I know I'm wrong, but I'm going to deflect and try to put this back on you."

That's not language nuance that's an autocorrect spelling mistake, but then I guess you wouldn't get that either.

Figures you'd try to misrepresent your virtue signaling with a wacky deflection of your own. Hey we're all proud of you clap yourself on the back some more.

Keyboard Escape button is the PS Button and T is the TouchPad


Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:

DrizzDrizzDrizz wrote:

Huh. I missed this. Since there is an app to do this on other devices - bad idea.

Edit- now I’m seeing no cloud game streaming. Softs must be downloaded. That doesn’t make sense either -

More and more about this device doesn't seem to make sense. Cool it's "only" $200 but there's way too many compromises, this is basically just a PS5 version of the Wii U that has a better range (and worse latency).

longhornsk57 wrote:

This is something we can agree on.

When I first read about this device, it reminded me of Wii U's much desired 'off screen' play which ended up not having nearly enough range to be useful to me. If I can't go in another room with it, what's the point?

I like the wii u for other reasons, but it was a big disappointment that I couldn't go from the living room to a bedroom in a relatively compact apartment.

Ya agreed. Huge buzz kill especially like playing on my bed is have to move the console into the bedroom. Big turnoff.

But this is streaming only so will the latency kill the pleasure too? I've had that issue with remote play

I'll wait to see Digital Foundry to test the latency. For me though I loved WiiU's off screen play. I remember loving ever second of NSMBU. Just playing on a small screen is something I enjoy. Guess I just enjoy portables.

So if this thing turns out working well, I now have something I can tackle my PS4 and PS5 backlog. I'm just more likely to play something if it's a device with a screen I can keep around me.

I've been playing Switch more this year, all of it using handheld mode. In the past, I always played Switch plugged into my big TV. So, I've been appreciating the benefits of handheld. There's less of a barrier from needing to turn the TV on, boot up, etc. Handhelds seem to pause/restart very easily (not sure if Portal will do this). I think I don't play PS5 as much because of this barrier feeling. Also, taking over the big TV just feels like it affects the whole house, whereas I can play handheld quietly by myself. I guess I play more often briefly to kill a little time these days, so handhelds are appealing for that. And, I think the Portal could be like that too.

bill wrote:

Yes this pretty much nails it. I've been spoiled starting with DS and PSP. It's immediately continuing from where you left off. They all can do that, And I still play these systems. DS, Vita, PSP, Switch, 3DS. They said the Portal will be able to turn on and off the PS5. And we know the new systems have a pretty quick resume feature. So it might only be a slight step behind Switch.

WIth me I have my modern consoles hooked up to my 4K projector. So there is a HUGE wait compared to my Switch. I have been playing The Last of us II. But if I can stop and resume within like say 5 seconds. As opposed to 30-60 seconds turning on all my tech like my projector, AVR, and waiting for them to boot up. It would be a HUGE difference and I would probably start playing way more PS4 and PS5 games. As long as physical games inserted into PS5 work. Heck I'd probably sell some of my Xbox multiconsole games and instead buy copies for PS. Resident Evil, Spyro, Mortal Kombat, etc. . Because I'd favor playing on Portal.

The Portal is a neat idea but lack of streaming capability for PSN seems insanely short sighted. While I am interested, I'm hesitant as there will clearly be a second gen enabling this... Although maybe it will simply be a software update.

Also, the controller isn't modular? Can't replace components... Another miss.

If I get it and I like it, I definitely will start favoring PS5 releases.

This is ideal for me… I can play some games in bed instead of annoying my wife with the TV on.

Finn wrote:

Yeah exactly. I have my Vita and Ipad Mini plugged up near bed right now. Man if I had that I could have my "PS5" in bed. Heh heh. This is definitely a personal thing. Some people will think it's crap and say it won't sell, others will love the hell out of this thing. But it won't be universally liked, that's for sure.

Well the hard part is that the low end steam deck is 'only' twice the price and is a full blown gaming system. I'm torn because I am definitely interested as well.

$200 is an attractive price for me. As I only need this for PS5 on a small screen. I have no use for a PC handheld. I already have small handhelds for emulation and a micro PC for old PC games. So this being at a tempting price, is good for it being used strictly for one thing.

It really sounds like they’ve attempted to bare bones the guts to get the best screen and gamepad possible. I’m expecting this will be impressive feeling and looking as well as very lightweight

Honestly the Logitech g cloud streaming handheld is probably the most impressive hardware at price point I’ve used. That thing feels great, is very light and has tight controls. If they can match this feel with flawless connectivity with ps5 it’s a buy for me.

Do you think think this will work with mobile hotspots? Hotspots are supposed to mimic wifi as far as I know, and I have unimited data mobile hotpot I use at work. Man if I can play my PS5 at work, even with a little latency, that would be friggen amazing. I just imagine playing Avatar Frontiers of Pandora on my PSP while at work this Winter.

Since the Portal only streams, it likely will not need a fan and thus it will be silent. Also, it shouldn't need as much power and thus could have a long battery life. I think these 2 things could help distinguish it from a Steam Deck.

it does have to power the dualsense rumble, which is important for me, so that will knock it down a peg. I'm good with 3.5hr battery life at the low end, I just want it to work great for what I want it to do, and feel good playing.

Steam Deck basically just streams the Ps5 as well with Chiaki4deck. I'd say I can probably get 4-5 hours but I almost never play till it dies

Yeah ever since like way back to GBA I never play til the thing dies. I tend to play for a half hour or so and then plug it back it to give it a little more charge. That's been my habbit for the last 2 decades. So I'll be fine with battery life.

The big thing will be, getting a closer look at gameplay on the screen, how bad is the latency, how quick is the on/off, wake up PS5, sleep mode/hibernate. And can I play it with a mobile hotspot. If I get good news on mostly everything, I'll be excited to give this thing a go.

I haven't looked too deep into it yet given the insanity of the past week, but why is it that you can't stream PSN games?

Regardless, the more I think about it, the more I want one. Having a baby at home again, my God this would be the perfect time to have one!

I don't thing Sony has said why, but to be clear, what they said was:
via https://blog.playstation.com/2023/08/23/playstatio...

In other words, you can't re-stream to the Portal games that stream to the ps5; only non-VR games that play local on the PS5 are supported. That's what I consider PS Now games, though I guess they don't call them that anymore. I've never actually played a game like that (sort of Stadia-like).

Saying, "PSN Games" may mean different things to people. From my perspective, I only play games I download off of PSN (PlayStation Network) and those are all supported (except VR) as far as I know.

Fair enough, if we can download the games and then stream, that's decent. Just with paying for their extra subscription tiers and access to on demand streaming, this is like the perfect companion device to help push subscriptions! Seems crazy not to have it.

Regardless, man, I want one right now. I'm gonna be in the NICU for the next 3 days (or more). May just grab the Switch for now. Gonna be a long week...

I think only ps3? Games cannot be downloaded. So you would not be able to play those on it.

I don't really know what Sony is trying to do with the portal. What is the demographic this fits?

I think it's just to be the same price as the switch lite on the shelf, and have parity with MS and their cloud gaming stuff. I can only imagine how many parents are going to buy it for their kids this Christmas thinking it's a portable PS5 not understanding the fine print. Instead it'll be "neat, now you need to spend $500 so that I can use this".

Yeah at second glance, I may just save for a Steam Deck. It sounds like it does it all then some for portable gaming.

It seems like they’re pretty much slow killing all unofficial ps plus and remote play apps through updates- seems to be in high demand on most discussion boards for portable devices. I’d guess they’re trying to corner this market and get more exclusivity on how their stuff streams. Maybe control it like Apple does their stuff? If you want your vision / optimal experience for your products you need to control all the variables. Most current gen peripherals they release get poo pooed on- but are commercially successful.

Playing with the Rog Ally now and while cool... I'd love the simplicity of a Playstation controller and not the extra hoops. Portal has my interest.

Using the ayaneo kinda taught me the same. It’s a windows device at heart. With all the pain this entails.

no extra hoops is the thing. Plus it's an elongated Dual Sense so you can get the enhanced feedback and resistive triggers for the games that use it. I like the idea of a $500 android or PC handheld that can do both Xbox and PS5, as well as play PC games. But I'd rather have something like the Portal that is designed specifically for something, thus making it simpler, and quicker.

Simply because all of my other gaming needs are met by other devices.

Feeb wrote:

Really hope this isn't the case, don't want to buy this thing

I think Sony is likely looking into returning to more proprietary business model. The recent disasters on pc front which they were reluctant to do in the first place didn’t help. They own the tech to create all the tech in house etc. got the new Sony connect on the way.

What is your evidence for this conjecture about Sony?

bill wrote:

The number of ps5 and ridiculous over priced peripherals like dual sense edge and vr 2 sold. Consumers are positively reinforcing that they want “Sony” at any price.

Dualsense Edge is the best selling accessory in the US
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/08/ps5s-pro-c...

PSVR2 sold about 600k units in six weeks
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/psvr-2-sold-just-shy....

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