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Kommie
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10-Jun-2021(#1)
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Oooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh the ELDEN RING


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Huy2cdih0 -------------- GAMEPLAY TRAILER

Winners who've beat it:
@Kommie
@Gypsy
@Feeb
@Archer
@Groo
@Bleed_DukeBlue
@Snappy

Quitters :
@theJaw
@theJaw
Archer
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17-Oct-2023(#121)
Yeah, you can buy one from the dude in the hub. From facing the vestige in the hub, turn left and go straight through the door, then take a left. That dude is the radiance vendor. He also sells a few radiance spells.
Feeb
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* 17-Oct-2023(#122)
I like the ssaling on the umber catalysts. I rolled the inferno class, got the axes that scale inferno and pumped radiance. The umbral stuff is pretty nasty. The axes are great too.
Kommie
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17-Oct-2023(#123)
Archer wrote:
> Kommie wrote:
>> I'm still trying to beat this stupid Pieta.
>
> Summon that NPC dude, he will soak up a lot of the early agro which will save your
> healing items for later in the fight. She targets him first every time. She will
> kill him also, because NPC summons in this game are not like DS where they tank bosses
> for you. He has low health. I also found blocking/parrying with her is very helpful
> when she goes into the chain moves. Then a few quick replies to bring the health
> back, and then back away and wait for her to setup again. She is a poor mans Malenia.
>

Just killed her. Honestly I didn't like the summon help, it just added to the frame dips and made it harder to parry.
MrBean
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17-Oct-2023(#124)
So Pietas sword seems pretty badass... I'm so heavy into strength tho. Is it worth respecing? Looks like there are later game options for respec. Just so tired of the Crimson Rector Sword.
Archer
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17-Oct-2023(#125)
I'm not sure how many there are in the game, I think only a few. But there is the plucked eyeball shrine next to Mulhu in skybridge. When the community gets that to level 2 by donating plucked eyeballs it will unlock an unlimited amount to be bought. But I think you have to buy them with plucked eyeballs. The item you get for using a red lamp and killing the beefed up enemy who killed someone else.

MrBean
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* 17-Oct-2023(#126)
Yeah I saw that and looks like you need 75 of the eyeballs as well. So it will definitely take some time to get the mats, but it looks like we're not too far off from tier two. It just seems like the radiant stuff is better than strength. Of course every Soul's game I've ever played I always go caster first and then I go back and do other builds this time around I wanted to start with strength and I think I picked wrong so far.

Probably shouldn't have started as dark crusader.

Maybe I just blow the one you can buy for the time being.
Feeb
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17-Oct-2023(#127)
There is a “multi shot crossbow” you can loot pretty late.
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* 17-Oct-2023(#128)
Mendacios Visage is a real Mcbutt-hole.
Feeb
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* 17-Oct-2023(#129)
Just rolled the credits for first run. This was a solid 7 with a shot at 8 if it’s cleaned up. From late mid game forward it becomes an absolute slog. The last areas are basically run like hell and plant a seed, farm more if you’re out. The mob density, type and placement are all absolutely terrible. I give it a 6 in its current state. This one has the base of a great game- very deep systems, toms of items, some cool enemies etc. Rushed and got caught by the git gud curse of needing to be much harder than it should be- mostly through crapty environmental deaths and chains of elite mobs. Ugh. I’m glad it’s over and don’t think I’ll platinum this one unless it’s significantly cleaned up.
Archer
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* 17-Oct-2023(#130)
@Feeb What was your final character level?
Feeb
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17-Oct-2023(#131)
125. I’ve got 5 more levels already with the boss currency I spent afterward. Guess I should have bought more babies in case I ever do go to NG.
Feeb
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18-Oct-2023(#132)
These NPC / vendor quest lines are nuts. I screwed them all up. Wondered where the inferno spells were all at.
MrBean
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18-Oct-2023(#133)
Shame to hear about the end as so far I'm really enjoying it. Sad to hear (and I think I'm now seeing it) that they had to go all dark souls with the obscure quests that require the internet.

Just made it past the first beacon area, into the gorge. The sword of pieta is insanely better than the bs I was rocking before.

Definitely the type of game I want to keep playing. Damn wife and kids!

Oh yah, and in by looking for the BB steelbook (bought one) I'm seeing people are selling in game items on ebay already? Looks like a dupe glitch was already found.
Feeb
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* 18-Oct-2023(#134)
I looked for a roadmap before I started. There wasn’t a complete one so I just winged it. But yeah these NPCs sell stuff you need for trophies etc. there is way too much stuff it wants you to collect. The game was very fun until it got stupid - there’s just too much of it to keep balanced and make it “hard” without resorting to lazy artificial difficulty. I hope they patch some sense into the later areas. I think I said “this is fudging awful” out loud about a dozen times in the last area.

Lies of P never felt that way. It was always very fair and became comfortable with practice. This one almost gave me anxiety attacks so I said fudge it, time to sprint through this mess.
Archer
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18-Oct-2023(#135)
I'm pretty sure I've already failed multiple quest lines. But I'm not looking stuff up until I finish this first run. I've only looked up a few things like respec items, and how to get coins and eyes and just like that. Avoiding the wiki entirely until first run is done. But I know for a fact I fudgeed up at least two peoples quest lines. I think possibly more. One of them has straight up just vanished from the game. And the other asked me to do something, and I didn't do it before he moved to another area, and now he says he did it himself, lol.
Feeb
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* 18-Oct-2023(#136)
A few of them I thought I was keeping up with but I didn’t completely? Exhaust their dialogues and they disappeared from the game. Some of them I found items for and there was absolutely zero chance I was going back to them. Just not worth the headache because of how far from the items they were.

Did a bit of NG+. The no shrine idea is a disaster. You do get to warp to the base one and your current seed but that is it. The bosses are literally sponges. It feels like an mmo raid on main bosses now. Summoning others is almost necessary and they get absolutely waxed pretty fast. I’m not seeing this as being something I’d stick with.
Archer
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18-Oct-2023(#137)
They just released a new patch for PC (consoles are now 2 patches behind). Hopefully these hit consoles tomorrow or maybe Friday. They reduced the costs of seeds to 1200. And they said the re-balanced all bosses in NG+, because they now realize based on player feedback they made them too tough for just one jump up in the cycles, lol.
Feeb
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18-Oct-2023(#138)
That’s good to see. They just need to let the shrines and fast travel be a thing. It’s a waste of time, not a change in difficulty.
Feeb
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* 18-Oct-2023(#139)
PSA. I did not spend a single attribute point in stamina / endurance. Easily pulling off 4 hit combos and escaping, launching spells etc. it’s the most overrated stat in souls games. I didn’t spend points in it in LoP either. Bloodborne turned me into a mover and not a blocker. Only parries. There is a ring that increases it and speeds recovery. If you need anything more that would be enough. I can still equip whatever I want with no consequential reduction in movement etc. since this game encourages aggression I don’t want a stat that lends to turtling.

If I PvP more I’d likely respec this.
Archer
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18-Oct-2023(#140)
That is fully dependent on your play style. You have to have stamina if using colossal weapons. One swing of a colossal sword will deplete almost your entire stamina bar at default levels. You have to level it up to get off the combo. The heavier the weapon the more stamina it needs to swing.
Feeb
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* 18-Oct-2023(#141)
By the time I’ve found one of those weapons I’m usually already set in a play style that I’ve spent time learning. There is a ton of value in doing what you’re good at regardless if something may be easier. Watching videos of folks using these weapons- they usually have a shield and the heaviest armor- but two hand it. Just feels like such a waste to build up for that. I guess it’s easier, fun in the end. I 100% disagree that a point in stamina is never a waste- as the souls wisdom says- it’s possibly 3 more damage points somewhere else, or a step towards taking another hit.
MrBean
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18-Oct-2023(#142)
I do like how both hp and stamina give you equip load. I also like extra stamina, especially in this game when you're getting bombarded in hoards of mobs. I've had more Stam than vit so far.
Feeb
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* 18-Oct-2023(#143)
This game feels different in that your build needs to get you to the boss- whereas other souls like the build is to get by the boss. It’s interesting to see the different way folks get it done. There are definitely hordes of mobs in this game- from thin air, from the ground etc.
Kommie
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18-Oct-2023(#144)
I might put this one to the side for awhile. They're updating it a lot. And yet Starfield is getting like no updates.
Archer
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18-Oct-2023(#145)
Kommie wrote:
> I might put this one to the side for awhile. They're updating it a lot. And yet Starfield
> is getting like no updates.

Its crazy to me that huge devs don't really support games like the smaller devs. I guess the smaller devs need that money to survive. So they need to fix things to help boost the image and get more sales. But I actually like seeing active developers who care about the product and work on it like that.

This game and Remnant 2, the devs are out there releasing multiple patches a week to fix things and change things for QoL based on player feedback. While big devs just say eh whatever, and release like one every month, if at all. Redfall took something like 6 months to get its first patch. Starfield had one small one to basically just to remove a loot exploit and fix a couple PC issues. Yet Skyrim still has the same loot exploits, as does Fallout 4. Like, what even are their priorities? People still have game breaking progress bugs in that game. But lets make one to take out a minor exploit in a single player game.
Archer
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18-Oct-2023(#146)
Feeb wrote:
> This game feels different in that your build needs to get you to the boss- whereas
> other souls like the build is to get by the boss. It’s interesting to see the different
> way folks get it done. There are definitely hordes of mobs in this game- from thin
> air, from the ground etc.

Yeah I agree with that. The progression feels backwards. Bosses end up being far easier due to how you have to level up just to get to them. So by the time you do you just whoop their ass. Aside from the first boss. But everyone after that feels like I just walk through them because of having to level just to beat all the regular trash mobs.
Feeb
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18-Oct-2023(#147)
The first boss feels very out of order. Everyone that gets that can beat any of this. I was thinking- holy crap how much harder can this game be if this is boss 1 like 30 minutes in?!
Archer
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18-Oct-2023(#148)
Just beat another gimmick boss. This is the third one so far, it better be the last. I really fudging hate gimmick bosses. It was super easy. But fudge, make a real boss fight.
MrBean
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* 19-Oct-2023(#149)
@Archer was it Spurned Progeny? The big goofy fire dude? This seems like an easy fight but just died 3x in a row. This last round he pulled a new instant giant fireball one shot kill bs.

Editt- 4th death, same crap. Unblockable/hideable one shot kill.
Archer
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19-Oct-2023(#150)
MrBean wrote:
> @Archer was it Spurned Progeny? The big goofy fire dude? This seems like an easy
> fight but just died 3x in a row. This last round he pulled a new instant giant fireball
> one shot kill bs.
>
> Editt- 4th death, same crap. Unblockable/hideable one shot kill.

He is the second gimmick boss. There is another after him. And you can hide behind the half walls on the upper walk ways to survive the insta death blasts. When starts that spell just run and site behind the wall until its over. You will take no damage. Took me a couple deaths to notice them myself.
Feeb
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19-Oct-2023(#151)
There are lots of gimmick main bosses - loosely defined. I recall 2-3 straight up fights including the first main boss.
MrBean
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19-Oct-2023(#152)
PvP is fun when it works. Lots of crashes and disconnects. Still, farmed about 40 hands pretty quick. Man, EVERYONE has a light saber!
Archer
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* 20-Oct-2023(#153)
MrBean wrote:
> PvP is fun when it works. Lots of crashes and disconnects. Still, farmed about 40
> hands pretty quick. Man, EVERYONE has a light saber!

I've seen a lot of people saying they are losing character levels from an invading bug. Reddit is filled with these posts the last few days. Its pretty funny to me. None of them are quite sure what is causing it. They all just know its from invading as that is what they were doing when it happened. One guy was level 120 and is now level 58, and he is at the final boss. And he can't use his weapon anymore because he doesn't have the stats to wield it.

Apparently a co-op bug doing the same thing as well. Must just be something goofy in the netcode itself.
MrBean
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20-Oct-2023(#154)
Yeah I actually saw some of those posts this morning and it's making you think I should stop doing multiplayer. I've just had a blast especially invading somebody and there's two people in it I have one most of my matches and it's just been a lot of fun.
Kommie
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20-Oct-2023(#155)
I'm definitely going to drop this for now and wait for more updates. PC is getting them frequently but console is always a wait. 0 interest in PvP though
Archer
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20-Oct-2023(#156)
@kommie I just avenged you. I'm pretty sure no one else has named their character Kommie in the game. I just used a red lamp and killed the fire sword guy at the starting area before the first boss. I was farming him for his sword. And it made me laugh when it showed the red name as Kommie. But you are on my PSN friends list so not that surprising I guess.
Feeb
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20-Oct-2023(#157)
I farmed that guy for a bit. The later ones in fire town and castle area have a much higher drop rate. Make sure you buy the rabbits foot to raise your discovery too.
Kommie
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20-Oct-2023(#158)
Archer wrote:
> @kommie I just avenged you. I'm pretty sure no one else has named their character
> Kommie in the game. I just used a red lamp and killed the fire sword guy at the starting
> area before the first boss. I was farming him for his sword. And it made me laugh
> when it showed the red name as Kommie. But you are on my PSN friends list so not
> that surprising I guess.

Lol weird. Been a couple of days since I was near that area. Pretty sure I did name my character Kommie
MrBean
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* 20-Oct-2023(#159)
I feel like they went out of their way to make the game more complex navigationally than a souls game. I dig it but my God, so many routes. I now have 3 vestige paths in completely different areas open that I'm working on (Upper Calrath, Fief, and Memorial).

There's way too much gear that drops, but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna rock most of my current gear till end.

Overall having a blast with the game. It's annoying in many areas but enjoying it. Reminiscent of DS2 a bit.

Don't want it to end but want to get to Spiderman before my paternity leave is over. Should be plenty good.
Archer
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21-Oct-2023(#160)
The final area of this game sucks major donkey dick. Fudge this area.
Feeb
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* 21-Oct-2023(#161)
Archer wrote:
> The final area of this game sucks major donkey dick. Fudge this area.

If you’re in bramis ? Castle- it’s sad how horrible it suddenly becomes after being a very enjoyable ride until then. It needs to be patched it’s that bad.

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