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Slowly but surely getting a few mins here and there ... in chapter VIII. The Scythe is just wrecking everyone, it's a bit overpowered, especially with the charge attack from a distance.

MrBean wrote:

It reaches through and around walls. And if you fire it oh my gawd.

I played more Lies of P. Genuinely don't get why people are acting like it's the best non From Software souls like. I don't think it's awful but I don't think it's great. Put in a little over 5 hours and I'm done. Mortal Shell and Thymesia are way better.

Well, I do know one reason I don't like it. It genuinely is trying to force a story.

Gameplay is still meh.... Perfect Guards are way too hard to do.

How long to beat says 25-50+ so I'm just gonna stop here and call it quits.

I summoned an NPC for a boss and killed it first try. Now in some sorta factory and it's just meh

The game was pretty heavily nerfed. Not sure why- but bosses are a bit easy with a summon now. The first 3 levels you are a bit too bare bones. It actually gets easier and way more fun as you earn the skills.

Thymesia I’d love more of. Wish that was longer.

29 hours, L76, half way into Chapter IX. The game is quite good. Kommie scared me away from it originally, not sure why you dislike it so much.

Lots of different mechanics that give a bit more to the genre. Story I am not following nor care about it. Combat is interesting and you have lots of options to vary it up. Difficulty is a bit low, especially with throwables. Fair amount of build diversity possible. Atompshere and sounds are really well done.

Overall, I'm happy with it. Question if I'll be done in time this week for Lords of Fallen. Probably the best game pass game I've played so far. Ended up buying a Deluxe copy for the collection.

It's not awful, but I just don't want to continue it. I cashed in some work rewards for a $50 gift card and pre ordered Lords of the Fallen at Best Buy. I like all the previews I've seen for that one.

So what am I missing with Lies of P? Game wants you to perfect guard but it needs to be perfect. Red Attacks also need to be perfect. All attacks are so random and janky. I'm still using the starting weapon too.

Kommie wrote:

You can upgrade to a double dodge that makes perfect guard not necessary. Get the puppet string left hand and upgrade it. Consider using a boss weapon. They are all pretty OP relatively. Use your consumables and grinder. Unfortunately the first 3-4 bosses just suck because you have to grind them out and have nothing special - not sure how they are post patch.

Kommie wrote:

Honestly, I rarely perfect guard ... dodge/block is plenty good. Every now and then I'm like "oh yeah, I can do that". It's honestly not needed, but definitely helps with uptime and effeciency. The double dodge is absolutely awesome and helps quite a bit, especially early on.

Did you roll str/dex? The starting dex weapon I rocked for quite a bit. Didn't switch until I got the boss Etiqutte weapon - and that didn't last long (probably wasn't even needed) as the Salamander dagger + acid handle is a beast early to mid'ish (and still relevant later for farming and certain mobs).

The weapon selection is surprisingly large once you get going. I ended up putting everything away except my primary two dex weps (scythe + twin dragons) and two elemental weapons (salamander dagger + baton).

I couldn’t use the twin dragons very well. Tried for a bit but the fable arts are awkward.

Feeb wrote:

Dude, it's insane ... it's been my primary since I got it. I'm still at +4, waiting for another full moon. I switch to the Scythe for elites to do ranged charged, but sans that, the Twin Dragon is a beast.

Agreed, the fable arts aren't the best, but they have their place. I tend to switch to Scythe to blow my fables.

36 hours (at least 5+ spent calming our new kid and putting the controller down) L89, think I'm right about at the end. Always a bitter sweet time in a game. Stoked I'll be done before Lords though!

Feeb, you did two full play throughs of this? Gdamn man, how do you have the time! Anything worthwhile on NG?

MrBean wrote:

I got platinum ps4 and 5. I was on vacation so I played a little nightly- and it’s a speed run after you know it.

NG opens level 6 quartz upgrades. NG++ has level 7.

Can you respec the Quartz? Pretty sure I didn't take Double Dash or whatever

Kommie wrote:

You can. After you open the respec and at the beginning of NG runs. You can open any of them at any time too. So you can still grab it.

Looks like that's Chapter 7? I'm at like 3 or something. Killed some annoying robot at Vengini Factory

Yah respecs are pretty easy. Redid mine a couple times. I thought it was earlier than ch7, don't remember.

You can respec at the gold coin tree after Malum district / chapter V. Interact with the tree then leave the controller idle for about 5 seconds- a new menu pops up. Once this tree is open you can access it from the hotel anytime.

You can also use the statue in the locked room at the end of chapter VII. There is a stargazer in this room so you can warp anytime here after tagging it.

Yah I didn't understand what the second place was for when you can just use the tree?

Reviews for Lords of the Fallen seem to be all over the place.

I’m guessing it sucks. Hearing the shills talk it up on their videos and what they’re saying is not compelling at all. Not hyped about enemies buffing from “another realm” etc.

I'm still gonna get it, Lies of P honestly..... I don't like it.

I've only skimmed some reviews. Sounds like bugs, performance and camera are top gripes - all of which could be fixed, hopefully soon.

I debate if I should wait out a patch but I've been pretty excited to play this one.

Already discounted on steam

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/171246279388941...

It certainly looks nice. The first iteration was almost unplayable due to camera, targeting and just awful background noise etc.

I might wait off on actually opening it for a bit to see if performance is fixed. It's looking really bad on PS5

Was hoping there was a ps4 version. Always seems to run better on ps5 than the native version.

New LOTF is currently sitting at a 77 on metacritic I see. I wonder if there’s going to be a demo.

TalonJedi87 wrote:

No demo, they've already said that

That’s a shame.

Has anyone played Remnant 2?

I did. I think we talked about it in here back around the time it came out. Its way better than the first. Still has issues. But I had fun with it. Enough to get 100%. Haven't gone back to it since though. But I will when the DLC drops.

Well that's fun my lords of the Fallen collector's edition that comes out tomorrow still hasn't shipped. So I guess I won't be playing it this weekend.

Seems like the Xbox version of LotF is delayed. I still can't tell how bad PS5 performance is as people either say it's fine or ass. But it seems that co op/invasions tank the FPS to a default 30.

Lies of P done. I am ashamed that I totally cheesed the last two bosses with throwables but I got lazy and was ready to be done.

Definitely had a good time playing. Would agree that it's probably the best soulslike that I've played.

Heard there's a dlc and a sequel already confirmed.

The ending is pretty cool. That would be a freaky game.

Feeb wrote:

Just read there's multiple endings (still watching mine now). Gonna have to YT the others as I won't be replaying anytime soon.

40 hours was more than I was anticipating for this game.

- edit - I think I picked the wrong final choice but it felt like it could result in a better ending. Time to YT.

Woah... Post credit scenes. The next game!?! Oh man that's exciting!!

MrBean wrote:

That part is universal to all endings. Really cool. Only difference is if you refuse you get the last fight. Otherwise the endings pretty weak.

Another thing that is different in NG- you get the device that allows you to understand the puppets you’re killing- and they’re not saying what you think. That was pretty neat for story.

Kommie wrote:

The game wasn't delayed, the day one patch was. Which is really odd. I guess this is a late patch they threw together based on review and early access copies for youtubers. So it hit the certification like yesterday. Not sure why xbox and playstaton have such different certification processes. xbox always takes so damn long.

Wooo, LotF just shipped and says estimated for delivery tomorrow!

Sounds like game isn’t quite there yet. Maybe a delay was in order.

No clue why the remake of LOTF had to come out in a month where both Nintendo and Sony are going to release two of their heavy hitting titles for the start of this holiday season. For example, THQ had the right idea pushing back Alone in the Dark to January. They didn’t want any of what this holiday rush was going to ensue.

Good thing I have zero interest in open world Spooder Man and whatever Nintendo is selling!

That’s a shame.

Sony and the generic open world game that sells like hot cakes.... And Nintendo isp probably selling some platformer?

Hey, look on the bright side- it could be another impossibly difficult game with gloomy gothic setting and monsters. A change is nice.

So Lords of the Fallen is actually pretty damn okay so far. Its like they just decided to make a Dark Souls 3 clone and asked to use the Lords of Fallen IP to do so. Menus are straight up DS3. Actually, most of how the game setup is pretty much DS3. However it does have some major issues. Not sure if just the xbox version or what. But I'm putting off playing anymore until that patch comes out. Because it has some major performance issues. Frame rate drops, pop ins, hitching/stuttering, potato graphics in spots and some goofy animations. Like in some of the cut-scenes (game rendered and pre-rendered) the character does not appear to be connected to the world. Like he is moving independently of the rest of the world/scene. Its, extremely odd. But Unreal Engine is also a steamy pile of crap these days.

I only played for about an hour. But so far, this seems like it has potential to be one of the best souls clones. I do also however think this lamp mechanic and going back and forth between realms is going to be over used and outstay its welcome. Its already some what annoying how much its used in the first bit of the game. Again, only an hour, but I feel the game would be better without it. Oh, I almost forgot, I had two cut-scenes randomly end on me before they were actually over. So, fudge the story at this point, I have no idea whats going on in that regard. And honestly don't care. Just want the game play. Its a souls clone.

So the xbox patch came out today. They made it sound like it wouldn't be until next week. Its the same one as PC and PS5 now as far as I can tell. Still needs more patches however, but it seems like it will be playable now at least. It fixed most of the hitching/stuttering. Doesn't happen during combat anymore, but happens anytime you use the lamp. And there are still some random potato graphics, but way way less. I think this could be due to using performance and not quality mode. So I can live with the random potato graphic if it means the game will run smoother. The character also moves less weighted now, its more floaty. I don't like that, but I'll look past it for now because I like so much else about the game. Its got decent combat so far. Haven't tried any magic yet. Started as the basic knight with a sword and shield. I can't stress enough how much like DS3, with a hint of Bloodbourn a lot of this game is. I didn't really have a lot of time to play just now, just booted up to download and check it out. But I think its in a decent state to keep playing from what I just experienced. I'll definitely be playing this tonight and over the weekend. Baring any horrible issues I run into.

EDIT: yeah scrap that. this still isn't playable. Should have been delayed another year. Game needs massive work. Tried to take on the first boss, and it potato graphics everywhere and 10fps during the entire fight. I can't even do the fight because its so bad. It also freezes/stutters/hitches every 5 seconds, for about a full second. Its insane. How the fudge can games continually be released like this.

EDIT 2: Turning hdr off at the console level has fixed a lot of the graphical/performance issues. It actually runs way smoother now. And no more potato graphics either.

EDIT 3: Didn't last long. Guess on the shelf this goes until a bunch of patches come out. Too bad. I was looking forward to playing this.

Well, thats super disappointing to hear. Was hoping to play Sunday.

I had to change the pickup location for my Ps5 copy but overall I'm reading PS5 is far better than Xbox. Best Buy where I pre ordered it didn't even get a copy. I also set the steel book to ship.

If it sucks performance wise I'll just wait to play. I technically only paid $20+ tax with a $50 Gift card I got from work via this Bravo recognition system.

Yeah, from what I'm reading on reddit the PS5 version is actually best version. The xbox version is utter trash. And the PC version doesn't sound like its much better for most people. But most PS5 users are saying its fine. Seem odd. Maybe its time I buy a new PS5 controller and dust off the PS5.

I’ve been playing ps5 for 3-4 hours. It’s fine. Some stuttering in cut scenes, some really annoying collision detection / environmental impedance with attacks- otherwise it’s ok. Not liking the dark realm stuff at all so far. It looks better than I expected too.

Feeb wrote:

How are you liking it so far. I'm really digging it personally. More than any other souls clone. Just this horrible performance on xbox is making really unplayable at times.

Does the PS5 version have the weird floaty character where when you do an attack combo you float forward and into or past an enemy?

Archer wrote:

Not seeing any of the floaty stuff. It feels pretty visceral - maybe the haptics? It’s ok so far. Way too many enemies in some of the early areas- and they give very low rewards. Leveling feels much more important here. I’d say this definitely feels more DS3 than most. Lies of P felt much more BB after it got rolling. It’s substantially better than that 2014 trash.

Kommie wrote:

Did BB get an exclusive steelbook??

MrBean wrote:

There's a steelbook, yeah. No idea if it's exclusive.

Matchmaking is not working it seems. A few bosses in and it’s just not right. One shot literally. Lots of weapons drop but they need stats and leveling is a real grind. A buff to exp gains is needed pretty badly here.

Gdamnit. Yeah. BB has an exclusive steelbook. I got the CE from GS which has a different steelbook.

@Kommie or anyone else wanna sell theirs?

Stumbled upon the joy of dual wielding flaming axes and things are looking up. Smash.

Sounds like PS5 has a save corruption issue. Lots of people reporting corrupted/delete saves. And losing entire days worth of play time because they have to download from the PS+ server from before they started playing today. This launch is a hot mess. I guess no one should be buying games on day one anymore. No game launches smoothly it seems anymore.

Feeb wrote:

Yeah, I was dual wielding maces. I got two of them to drop before the first boss. Dual wielding is fantastic.

Ugh. This game is a messy slog. The targeting is off and causes flailing deaths frequently- there are entirely too many spongy enemies placed in sequence. This world is nice but the idea to make it pretty much a linear run with obscene numbers of cheesey mobs with range etc is an awful design choice. Not enjoying it much. Going to stick with it but about 10 hours and it is getting worse and worse more of the same.

@feeb Yeah I didn't get far before shelving it to wait for patches. But the more I read of people playing on PC and PS5 that have gotten far, most have nothing but bad things to say. Super dense enemy placement. Ranged wizard enemies that can snipe you with locked on projectiles from farther away than you can render/see. The auto lock on swapping to super far away enemies. Seems the game has a bad amount of artificial difficulty stuff, along with horrid balancing.

Oh I also read today they remove the bonfires (forget what they are called) in NG+. From what I played, there is already so little of them. You go for such a long time between if you don't have one of those seeds to grow a temporary one. And you can only have one of those at a time. And then in NG+ they thought it would be a good idea to just remove them entirely.

Yeah it’s looking like the reviews at 5-6 are correct so far. The targeting has to be one of my biggest gripes. A huge mechanic is enemies spawning into the realm - you cannot target them for a good second after they appear. This is causing me to flail at nothing, lose the camera and fall repeatedly etc. that single issue has caused me a ton of time.

Sounds like the new LOTF is just as messy as the original one. Think it’ll be a hard pass and/game pass title for me.

TalonJedi87 wrote:

It’s not nearly as bad as OG. The further I get the more it feels like they made a huge mistake in the sequence of the game. It feels like blightown and the crapty swamp areas of DS very early and very often. They went for frustratingly cheap inflated difficulty - but if you’re into that it’s fine and I can see why some masochistic souls fans would love it.

I honestly never found blightown to be that bad and your comments make me even more excited to play. Optimistic to possibly start tomorrow.

If you love the souls grind this one is for you. It’s got that “must get more souls” thing going on. Addictive as hell.

I played a couple hours just now. As there was a new patch today. Still not great, but a bit better. Anyway, fudge the swamp and these drops to 2fps. Holy fudge. Blight town aint got nothing on this crap. I've never experienced anything like that in a console game before. Not even the fabled Lichdom Battlemage was that bad. And that game is famous for its horrific frame rate on PS4/Xb1.

It's just so sad that this is (and has been) the new norm. Rush to meet a date with issues and patch later.

Yet in the modern world of agile development and MVP delivery, ti's part for the course for today's SDLC.

So uh, yeah. I refunded this on xbox and bought it on PS5 after watching some game play videos of that. And holy crap. This is a different game. It looks fantastic compared to the xbox version. Like I can't fathom how its such a pile of crap on xbox compared to this version. This is not the first game this year with this issue either. It also does not have the performance issues. No hitching, no stuttering. No crazy frame drops (I'm not at the swamp yet but the xbox version had them everywhere). This is like night and day. It actually looks really good. And plays so much smoother. Its like I was playing the PS3 version on my xbox. I'm glad I went and finally bought a new PS5 controller. Its been too long since I've used this system. Pretty much been using the SX all year.

Aside from the messy targeting it plays rather well on ps5.

Just opened the LotF CE. Sadly, doesn't feel worth the money. It's a decent enough statue and all (pretty cheap materials unfortunately), but should have been $150-$200. They could/should have included something else - light a stand-alone lantern display piece (like the black marker Dead Space LRG CE).

It's really odd/dumb that they want you to use the box for display purposes. As they built a light inside the box, that can be turned on with a remote. I dunno, maybe If I had proper shelves and room, I'd use the box ...

Also, someone sell me their Best Buy steelbook!

Couple hours in, digging it! Changing from quality to performance cleaned up most of the stuttering.