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Yes it was a reference the the post immediately above mine referencing silksong.

If another post had been added while I was typing I probably would have gone back pulled the quote into my post for clarity.

Maybe I should have anyway!

Yeah, I assumed it was about Silksong because the developer isn't known for anything else besides Hollow Knight, just like the Sports Story dev wasn't known for anything other than Golf Story. Basically saying just because one game was a big success doesn't guarantee the follow up will be, even when they've had years to work on it.

I added Silksong to my list last minute in favor of Star Wars Outlaws as I heard Outlaws may get pushed to 2025. But now watch the reverse happen.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:
Thanks for the explanation. I had no context. Really didn't know what to make of it.

TalonJedi87 wrote:
Funny you should say that. I initially put silksong on my list and Star Wars outlaws as one of my backups, so you could say I had Silksong in favor of Star Wars Outlaws. But I then had to remove Prince of Persia because I unknowingly made my submission after scores for Prince had been posted. So Star Wars Outlaws then made it to the list.

Hellblade 2 is rumored to release on May 21st 2024. They will probably make an official announcement Thursday during the Xbox developer direct.

nonamesleft wrote:

Thats funny and I almost removed the new Prince of Persia from my list also as I thought it was going to be another Ubi live service / MTX cash grab.

mattyg00013 wrote:

About. Damn. Time.

Hopefully Hellbalde is a completed game and not another Microsoft "release it and fix it later" trend.

It’s been in development for like almost 5 years I feel. If it’s broken upon release then they have truly failed this city.

TalonJedi87 wrote:
Even though it was Ubisoft, something about the gameplay trailer that I watched made it look very good to me. I'm not saying that Ubisoft equals not good, but just something about the gameplay made me think "this will be great."

Yeah and I had no idea it was gonna be a metroidvania style game but those are welcome in my book. Especially if you’re gonna elevate and evolve the genre like they said the new PoP does.

TalonJedi87 wrote:

That was my spicy pick It was that or Silksong and I picked the game we know even less about xD
I picked that ZAU game over PoP and that may have been a mistake too.
I also completely forgot about that Metaphor game

Here's my full list:

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Some observations:

There's still the normal big AAA releases but seeing a lot more random smaller games sprinkled throughout. A lot more games only on 1 list.

I never can get straight what counts between remakes and remasters. Brothers Two Sons I totally figured didn't count. Same with Persona 3.

Hades II seems a long shot but may bring up the drama between early access and full release

A lot more Princess Peach and less Mario vs DK than I would have predicted

Star Wars Outlaws really feels like it will get pushed, but I am excited for it

I really wish Silksong will release, pleeeeeaassssse

benstylus definitely has a unique list

sefjwm wrote:

More crossover this year than in any previous year!

Last year I picked all games that hadn't even been announced. I got one with WarioWare Move It (and technically a second with MyArcade's new Tetris handheld but i dont think anyone reviewed that POS), and announcements for two more (Shantae and whatever the next Thunder Lotus game was).

2022 was the year of the sports titles.

Can anyone guess this year's theme?

sefjwm wrote:

Quite an impressive list! I shaved a lot off mine too. I should have kept the list going like you thought for the fantasy leagues in the years to come. Heh.

benstylus wrote:

Hmm…Sidescrolling platforming games?

sefjwm wrote:

What’s been done with early access games in the past? I guess as long as it gets reviews than should be good I’d think?

Shane12m wrote:

Nah. Early access games don't count. The game must have a full retail release.

Heavyd814life wrote:

That’s what I figured

benstylus wrote:


At first when I gave a quick glance over the list I thought something with playable female characters but Prince of Persia kinda threw me off.

Kommie wrote:

This is the only game on my list I am a *little* worried about. I think I let my love for Ninja Theory get the better of me here because I always forget that the first game was only like an 80 on Metacritic. But they are so talented and they've got that MS money this time around so hopefully the sequel is on a whole new level.

Hellblade 2 had some great previews, so I have high expectations. Then again, it drives nuts when websites give amazing previews and then kill it in review scores.

@sefjwm

Pepper Grinder? 😅

Hadn't heard of it.

sefjwm wrote:

I'm still not sure how anyone has a hard time with this to be honest. Its always a point of contention in here. And I don't understand why.

Both of those are remakes. Which are allowed. Remasters are not. Remasters are lazy ports of the same exact game. A remake is a new game that is built from the ground up again in a new engine. Its usually basically the same game, but they make it all over again. Hence the term remake. Usually everything about the game is new aside from story and core mechanics. Meaning all new assets (graphics, sounds, animations, some times new game play mechanics and old bugs from the old version get fixed, because its a new engine) A remaster on the other hand is when they just "uprez" the graphics. Meaning its the same exact game in the same engine with all the same assets. There is nothing new about it. They just tweak the existing game and sell it again.

Its also usually fairly clear what the game is of the two based on what the developer calls it in marketing. If its a remake, they will go out of their way to get that across and call it a remake. And then go into detail about whats new in the new version of the game. Remasters, continuing with the lazy theme, just say remastered and they wont provide much more details than that until the game is about to release. And it usually just boils down to, now with remastered graphics.

I'm surprised how many people have Black Myth: Wukong on their list. I thought that was going to be an under radar game on here. I haven't really seen anything about it in over 2 years. So I thought I was being sneaky with picking that one.

Archer wrote:

Hmm I didn’t think it was under the radar at all. I feel like it gets tons of media attention. I had it on my list but took it off last minute and replaced it with hellblade 2. I just have a feeling it’s gonna get delayed. Hope it ends up good and releases this year though

I just recall watching the initial gameplay presentation on Black Myth a couple years back and when I saw you can morph into an ape I was like man this looks cool and went with my gut and added it to my list.

TalonJedi87 wrote:
I just watched a bunch of gameplay of it. Looks good. As I was watching I thought that it reminded me of a certain Chinese story about a monkey king character. I actually own the book. And at the end of the gameplay, sure enough, it said that the game is based off of the story Journey to the West. (In it, the monkey character is named Sun Wu Kong, hence the title Wukong.)

I wish I knew what the singers were singing during the gameplay. Sounded nice. It was in Chinese.

https://youtu.be/ciSNHghrEq4?feature=shared

Yeah it looks so good. Like weird but good. Reminds me of a culmination of some of the greatest action games of the past decade or so in one package. Some reminds me of Sekiro. Other parts remind me of Nioh. With some sprinkles of DMC in there too.

It's less confusion over the policy in the league but what the games actually are. From what I've seen Brothers and Persona seemed like straight up ports with better graphics. Not on the level of something like RE4 or FF7 which is pretty much a completely different game now.

Wukong looks great but the studio has some drama and I was getting some Atomic Heart type vibes from it. I hope it's awesome though. I grew up on the old Chinese Monkey King show - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K5lphymgSg and he's one of my favorite characters.

sefjwm wrote:

Yeah, we could debate whether one game is as much of a remake as another but if we did that then we'd never come to a consensus. The rules as is are pretty simple. As long as a game is billed as a remake, it counts.

nonamesleft wrote:

Game looks awesome - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkxNejWRGsA

benstylus wrote:


That would be 33 Immortals. It is in my larger list but I'm pretty sure it's slated to be early access only this year. Looks promising though.

I don't have much faith in my list. I did it very rushed at the last second just to get something in so that I could participate. I spent maybe 15-20 minutes tops. I knew very little about most of the games I was seeing on 2024 lists, and didn't have time to research each individual one to see how promising a 2024 release was, how good the game was looking to be, etc.

Also, I guess I've behind on my Nintendo rumors. I didn't realize there were rumors of a 3D Mario game dropping this year. I considered putting that on my list anyway, but decided to play it safer again. If I had known about the rumors though, I may have gone for it.

Scott wrote:

Idk I think you have a very solid list. The games you have that I don’t I had considered putting on my list too. Princess peach was a tough one. I really wanted to put it on my list because 1st party Nintendo games almost always review very well, but I wasn’t sure what I would swap it with. I think you have as good a shot as anyone.

Shane12m wrote:

Well that's good to know. I was just looking through everyone's lists and saw so many games that I either didn't consider at all, or knew nothing about so I was afraid to choose them.

Would be pretty stellar if the new Nintendo system has a 3D Mario at launch. Maybe Odyssey 2 or Galaxy 3.

sefjwm wrote:
Looks fun. Reminded me of a gba game called Drill Dozer. Pepper Grinder makes me think Shovel Knight meets Drill Dozer. A mashup of the two games.

TalonJedi87 wrote:

Current rumor is that its an open world game and not a sequel