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Topic   It's On! 2024 GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League (updated 2/14/2024)

Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) This user is on the site NOW (8 minutes ago)
* 9-Dec(#1)
The 2024 GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League

1. SilverOwl Current Total: 434


Top 10:
1. Alone in the Dark
2. Black Myth: Wukong
3. Dragon's Dogma 2
4. Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
5. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
6. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
7. Outcast - A New Beginning
8. Persona 3 Reload - 90
9. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87
10. Tekken 8 - 90

Alternates:
1. Princess Peach: Showtime
2. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League - 62


2. Frank Current Total: 347


Top 10:
1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
2. Hollow Knight: Silksong
3. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
4. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
5. Metroid Prime 4
6. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
7. Persona 3 Reload - 90
8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
9. Star Wars Outlaws
10. Tekken 8 - 90

Alternates:
1. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87
2. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl


3. Sefjwm Current Total: 338


Top 10:
1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
2. Granblue Fantasy: Relink - 81
3. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
4. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
5. Metroid Prime 4
6. Mina the Hollower
7. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
8. Tales of Kenzera: Zau
9. Tekken 8 - 90
10. The Plucky Squire

Alternates:
1. Helldivers 2 - 82
2. Unicorn Overlord


4. TalonJedi87 Current Total: 316


Top 10:
1. Black Myth: Wukong
2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
5. Persona 3 Reload - 90
6. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87
7. Princess Peach: Showtime
8. Rise of the Ronin
9. Silent Hill 2
10. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League - 62

Alternates:
1. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater
2. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II


5. Ryan Current Total: 270


Top 10:
1. Dragon's Dogma 2
2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
3. Frostpunk 2
4. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
5. Metaphor: ReFantazio
6. Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024
7. Persona 3 Reload - 90
8. Rise of the Ronin
9. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
10. Tekken 8 - 90

Alternates:
1. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl
2. The Plucky Squire


6. Jim269 Current Total: 261


Top 10:
1. Dragon's Dogma 2
2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Granblue Fantasy: Relink - 81
5. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
6. Princess Peach: Showtime
7. Rise of the Ronin
8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
8. Tekken 8 - 90
10. Visions of Mana

Alternates:
1. Alone in the Dark
2. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77


7. Bleed_DukeBlue Current Total: 261


Top 10:
1. Dragon's Dogma 2
2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
3. Granblue Fantasy: Relink - 81
4. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
5. Metaphor: ReFantazio
6. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater
7. Persona 3 Reload - 90
8. Rise of the Ronin
9. Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2
10. The Legend of Heroes: Trails Through Daybreak

Alternates:
1. Little Nightmares III
2. Tekken 8 - 90


8. BloodPuppetX Current Total: 253


Top 10:
1. Dragon's Dogma 2
2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Granblue Fantasy: Relink - 81
5. Little Nightmares III
6. New 3D Mario
7. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87
8. Princess Peach: Showtime
9. Under Night In Birth II - 85
10. Unicorn Overlord

Alternates:
1. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
2. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77


9. Thatfootballguy Current Total: 253


Top 10:
1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
2. Granblue Fantasy: Relink - 81
3. Hades II
4. Helldivers 2 - 82
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Metaphor: ReFantazio
7. Metroid Prime 4
8. New 3D Mario
9. Tekken 8 - 90
10. Unicorn Overlord

Alternates:
1. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
2. New Mainline Pokemon


10. Hum Current Total: 249


Top 10:
1. Avowed
2. Dragon's Dogma 2
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Helldivers 2 - 82
5. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
6. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
7. Princess Peach: Showtime
8. Rise of the Ronin
9. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
10. Tekken 8 - 90

Alternates:
1. Skull and Bones
2. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl


11. Zidimo Current Total: 180


Top 10:
1. Earthblade
2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Frostpunk 2
5. Jurassic Park: Survival
6. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
7. Mewgenics
8. Rise of the Ronin
9. Tekken 8 - 90
10. The Wolf Among Us 2

Alternates:
1. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
2. Star Wars Outlaws


12. Heavyd814life Current Total: 180


Top 10:
1. Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons
2. Dragon's Dogma 2
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
5. Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024
6. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
7. Persona 3 Reload - 90
8. Rise of the Ronin
9. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
10. Unicorn Overlord

Alternates:
1. Helldivers 2 - 82
2. Tekken 8 - 90


13. Lunar Current Total: 180


Top 10:
1. Dragon's Dogma 2
2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Hades II
5. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
6. Metaphor: ReFantazio
7. Persona 3 Reload - 90
8. Rise of Ronin
9. Stellar Blade
10. Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

Alternates:
1. Black Myth: Wukong
2. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77


14. Scott Current Total: 180


Top 10:
1. Black Myth: Wukong
2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater
5. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
6. Persona 3 Reload - 90
7. Princess Peach: Showtime
8. Rise of the Ronin
9. Silent Hill 2
10. Tekken 8 - 90

Alternates:
1. Animal Well
2. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77


15. Shane12m Current Total: 180


Top 10:
1. Dragon's Dogma 2
2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
6. Metaphor: ReFantazio
7. Persona 3 Reload - 90
8. Rise of the Ronin
9. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
10. Unicorn Overlord

Alternates:
1. Avowed
2. Tekken 8 - 90


16. DemonAlcohol Current Total: 172


Top 10:
1. Avowed
2. Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden - 82
3. Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons
4. Dragon's Dogma 2
5. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
6. Frostpunk 2
7. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
8. Hollow Knight: Silksong
9. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
10. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl

Alternates:
1. Homeworld 3
2. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77


17. Boss Current Total: 167


Top 10:
1. Decapolice
2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
3. Hades II
4. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
5. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater
6. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
7. Persona 3 Reload - 90
8. Princess Peach: Showtime
9. The Wolf Among Us 2
10. Unicorn Overlord

Alternates:
1. Contra: Operation Galuga
2. Silent Hill 2


18. Sailorneorune Current Total: 164


Top 10:
1. Another Code: Recollection - 74
2. Decapolice
3. Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time
4. Little Nightmares III
5. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
6. Princess Peach: Showtime
7. Tekken 8 - 90
8. The Plucky Squire
9. Unicorn Overlord
10. Visions of Mana

Alternates:
1. Cat Quest III
2. Metaphor ReFantazio


19. Benstylus Current Total: 161


Top 10:
1. Another Code: Recollection - 74
2. Arzette: The Jewel of Faramore
3. Contra: Operation Galuga
4. Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time
5. Penny’s Big Breakaway
6. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87
7. Princess Peach: Showtime
8. Shadow of the Ninja Reborn
9. Shantae Advance: Risky Revolution
10. Ufouria: The Saga 2

Alternates:
1. Littlelands
2. Truxton Extreme


20. Archer Current Total: 90


Top 10:
1. Avowed
2. Black Myth: Wukong
3. Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons
4. Dragon's Dogma 2
5. Fable
6. Persona 3 Reload - 90
7. Princess Peach: Showtime
8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2
9. Skull and Bones
10. The First Descendant

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
2. Rise of the Ronin


21. Incubus421 Current Total: 90


Top 10:
1. Black Myth: Wukong
2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Hades II
5. Nightingale
6. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
7. Princess Peach: Showtime
8. Tekken 8 - 90
9. Unicorn Overlord
10. Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

Alternates:
1. Hollow Knight: Silksong
2. Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2


22. SupremeSarna Current Total: 90


Top 10:
1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
2. Hades II
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. New Kirby
5. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
6. Princess Peach: Showtime
7. Shantae Advance: Risky Revolution
8. Tekken 8 - 90
9. Visions of Mana
10. Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

Alternates:
1. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
2. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League - 62


23. Bogo Current Total: 87


Top 10:
1. Dragon's Dogma 2
2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Metroid Prime 4
5. New 2D Zelda
6. New F-Zero
7. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
8. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87
9. Princess Peach: Showtime
10. Star Wars Outlaws

Alternates:
1. Homeworld 3
2. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90


24. Mattyg00013 Current Total: 87


Top 10:
1. Avowed
2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
3. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater
4. Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024
5. New 3D Mario
6. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87
7. Princess Peach: Showtime
8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
9. Silent Hill 2
10. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl

Alternates:
1. Dragon's Dogma 2
2. Rise of Ronin


25. Tonymack21 Current Total: 77


Top 10:
1. Avowed
2. Black Myth: Wukong
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Hades II
5. Homeworld 3
6. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
7. Metaphor: ReFantazio
8. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
9. Princess Peach: Showtime
10. Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2

Alternates:
1. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater
2. Rise of the Ronin


26. Bonham2 Current Total: 0


Top 10:
1. Dragon's Dogma 2
2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
3. Hades II
4. Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024
5. New 3D Mario
6. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
7. Rise of the Ronin
8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
9. Star Wars Outlaws
10. Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

Alternates:
1. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87
2. Tekken 8 - 90


27. Nonamesleft Current Total: 0


Top 10:
1. Antonblast
2. Contra: Operation Galuga
3. Earthblade
4. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
5. Hades II
6. Hollow Knight: Silksong
7. Metroid Prime 4
8. Princess Peach: Showtime
9. Star Wars Outlaws
10. Unicorn Overlord

Alternates:
1. Metaphor: ReFantazio
2. Neva


28. PizzaTheHutt Current Total: 0


Top 10:
1. Behemoth
2. Contra: Operation Galuga
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Little Kitty, Big City
5. Little Nightmares III
6. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater
7. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
8. Silent Hill 2
9. South Park: Snow Day
10. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl

Alternates:
1. Skull and Bones
2. World Of Goo 2



Upcoming Releases:


January:
Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - January 18
Another Code: Recollection - January 19
Under Night In Birth II - January 25
Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - January 26
Tekken 8 - January 26

February:
Granblue Fantasy: Relink - February 1
Persona 3 Reload - February 2
Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League - February 2
Helldivers 2 - February 8
Arzette: The Jewel of Faramore - February 13
Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden - February 13
Mario vs. Donkey Kong - February 16
Skull and Bones - February 16
Nightingale - February 22
Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons - February 28
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - February 29
Ufouria: The Saga 2 - February 29

March:
Homeworld 3 - March 8
Unicorn Overlord - March 8
Outcast: A New Beginning - March 15
Alone in the Dark - March 20
Dragon's Dogma 2 - March 22
Princess Peach: Showtime - March 22
Rise of the Ronin - March 22
South Park: Snow Day - March 26

April:
Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes - April 23
Tales of Kenzera: Zau - April 23
Stellar Blade - April 26

May:
Senua's Saga: Hellblade II - May 21

August:
Black Myth: Wukong - August 20

September:
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - September 5
Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 - September 9


League Overview:


Welcome to Year 7 of the GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League! This is basically fantasy football with games. Each person picks 10 games and those 10 games make up your "team" for the year. The OpenCritic scores for your 10 games are tallied up at the end of the year to determine your total. Highest overall score wins. You also get 2 alternate picks (these should be safe choices) just in case one of your picks gets delayed into 2025. So if you shoot for the moon with a game like Marvel's Wolverine and it gets pushed into 2025, one of your alternates takes its place and you don't end up with 0 points for that game. The goal is to pick games that you think have a very good chance of releasing in 2024. Don't YOLO your way into a bunch of 0s lol.

The Rules:
1. No DLC or Expansions
2. No Ports or Remasters (full remakes are allowed)
3. Alternate picks can only replace games delayed into 2025. They cannot be used to replace games in your top 10 that review poorly.

The Prizes:
1st Place: A $100 Amazon Gift Card
2nd Place: A $20 Amazon Gift Card
3rd Place: A $10 Amazon Gift Card

The Participants:
1. Heavyd814life
2. TalonJedi87
3. Jim269
4. Archer
5. PizzaTheHutt
6. SupremeSarna
7. Zidimo
8. Frank
9. Ryan
10. Incubus421
11. SilverOwl
12. Shane12m
13. Bleed_DukeBlue
14. BloodPuppetX
15. Bonham2
16. Sailorneorune
17. benstylus
18. Boss
19. DemonAlcohol
20. Sefjwm
21. Lunar
22. Thatfootballguy
23. Bogo
24. Mattyg00013
25. Hum
26. Tonymack21
27. Nonamesleft
28. Scott

Previous Winners:
2023: Shane12m
2022: Heavyd814life
2021: Ryan
2020: Mattyg00013 and Roko
2019: Heavyd814life
2018: Heavyd814life

Submit Your Picks Here: https://tally.so/r/n0ego0
Deadline: January 14, 2024 at 11:59pm




Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) This user is on the site NOW (8 minutes ago)
* 9-Dec(#2)
Year 7. Let's go!

@DemonAlcohol @PizzaTheHutt @EB @TalonJedi87 @benstylus @sailorneorune @Bleed_DukeBlue @HybridCRoW @Incubus421 @SwiftJAB @Roko @Thatfootballguy @SilverOwl @Shane12m @Frank @SupremeSarna @Cevil @BloodPuppetX @Sefjwm @Ryan @Bogo @Boss @Archer @Scott @Lunar @Tonymack21 @Mattyg00013 @Bonham2 @Metsfan718 @Best1989 @3hitcombo @Jbjz

PS...the prize for 1st place is $100 this year because @Shane12m graciously offered to add his winnings from this year to the 2024 pot to up the ante.

jim269
Silver Good Trader
9-Dec(#3)
Sounds fun!
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
9-Dec(#4)
Done and done! I left off 2 that I wasn’t sure about even coming out in 2024, those being Avowed and Vampires the Masquerade Bloodlines 2 but watch 2024 will be the year that Vampires decides to release. 😑
jim269
Silver Good Trader
9-Dec(#5)
TalonJedi87 wrote:
> Done and done! I left off 2 that I wasn’t sure about even coming out in 2024, those
> being Avowed and Vampires the Masquerade Bloodlines 2 but watch 2024 will be the
> year that Vampires decides to release. 😑

I left Vampires off too for the same reason!
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
9-Dec(#6)
Haha nice! Oh and I left off Hollow Knight Silk Song but is that even gonna be a full game of DLC?
HybridCRoW
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
9-Dec(#7)
Thanks, I'll submit as soon as I've done my research... I did well in the beginning but I want to try to space out enough to do better this year.
PizzaTheHutt
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader Has Written 3 Reviews
* 9-Dec(#8)
@Heavyd814life
I have a couple of questions before I submit my list. Where do we stand on Luigi's Mansion 2 HD, Mario Vs. Donkey Kong and Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door? I'm seeing more places refer to them as remasters than remakes, so they wouldn't count, right? I also am leaning more towards the remaster side, I think Switch's last hurrah were TotK, Pikmin 4 and SMB Wonder and from now everything else will be something they can just make a quick buck off of until the next console. But I just want to be sure before I officially exclude them.

Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
* 9-Dec(#9)
Submitted. 10 picks of Erdtree DLC!

Edit: And already over thinking my picks.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) This user is on the site NOW (8 minutes ago)
9-Dec(#10)
PizzaTheHutt wrote:
> I have a couple of questions before I submit my list. Where do we stand on Luigi's
> Mansion 2 HD, Mario Vs. Donkey Kong and Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door? I'm
> seeing more places refer to them as remasters than remakes, so they wouldn't count,
> right? I also am leaning more towards the remaster side, I think Switch's last hurrah
> were TotK, Pikmin 4 and SMB Wonder and from now everything else will be something
> they can just make a quick buck off of until the next console. But I just want to
> be sure before I officially exclude them.
>
>

Yeah, Nintendo games can be tough sometimes because they are so inconsistent with the way they title their projects. The wiki pages I've checked have both Mario vs Donkey Kong and Paper Mario as remakes and Luigi's Mansion 2 HD as a remaster so I think we should just go with that

Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) This user is on the site NOW (8 minutes ago)
9-Dec(#11)
Archer wrote:
> Submitted. 10 picks of Erdtree DLC!
>
> Edit: And already over thinking my picks.

Lol just shoot me a pm if you want to make any changes. Still plenty of time to reconsider. I can send you your list and you just let me know what you want to swap in.

PizzaTheHutt
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader Has Written 3 Reviews
10-Dec(#12)
Looking up multiple YouTubers' "2024 games I'm looking forward to" videos, it seems like 2023 is going to be a tough act to follow. There's only a few games (announced so far) I'd be excited about. I'm going to take a few risks on my list instead of just playing it safe. I put 4 or 5 games that I'd be surprised if they appear on anyone else's list. I might end up regretting that, but oh well.

DemonAlcohol
GameTZ Subscriber Quadruple Gold Good Trader Has Written 2 Reviews
10-Dec(#13)
Lol i don't even know of 10 games coming in 2024 yet. But i'll be in thanks

Bleed_DukeBlue
Triple Gold Good Trader
10-Dec(#14)
Super nice of @Shane12m.
benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
10-Dec(#15)
PizzaTheHutt wrote:
> I put 4 or 5 games that I'd be surprised if they appear on
> anyone else's list.

That sounds like almost my entire list. I think I have one, maybe two games other people will pick


Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader This user is on the site NOW (11 seconds ago)
10-Dec(#16)
Count me in! I’ll submit my list by the deadline.
sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
10-Dec(#17)
2024 seems like we'll have more varied lists this time. A lot of questionable release dates. I'm planning to join but need to do more research
bonham2
600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
* 10-Dec(#18)
I'm in, but I'm going to wait to submit my list. 2024 looks like a very uncertain year.
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
10-Dec(#19)
I just put what I know for sure is coming out in 2024 for like 75% of my list whether they do good or not. I rather take the risk of potentially lower scores vs no scores at all if a game that doesn’t have a firm release date or window ends up not coming out next year.
zidimo
Double Gold Good Trader
10-Dec(#20)
Submitted my list. Round 5! A bit more confident in my list this year than previous couple. First time I'm not putting Silksong on there.
sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
10-Dec(#21)
zidimo wrote:
> Submitted my list. Round 5! A bit more confident in my list this year than previous
> couple. First time I'm not putting Silksong on there.

Silksong releasing 2024 confirmed
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
10-Dec(#22)
Is Silksong DLC tho or a full game?
HybridCRoW
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
10-Dec(#23)
I'm reading Silksong is its own game... a sequel.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) This user is on the site NOW (8 minutes ago)
10-Dec(#24)
Oh yeah Silksong is definitely a sequel. It has been on people's lists for 3 years now. I'm just not brave enough to put it on mine.

TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 10-Dec(#25)
Dang now I kinda wanna redo my list and add it but it’s ok I’ll wing it with what I have and curse myself out later when Silksong launches in April 2024 with a 93 meta score from 38 critics.
bogo
Triple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
11-Dec(#26)
I don't know if i've ever finished a year with 10 games actually counted lol

Shoot for the moon! (one of these years, it'll work raspberry)
Boss
GameTZ Gold Subscriber 700 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (8)
11-Dec(#27)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> Year 7. Let's go!
>
> @DemonAlcohol @PizzaTheHutt @EB @TalonJedi87 @benstylus @sailorneorune @Bleed_DukeBlue
> @HybridCRoW @Incubus421 @SwiftJAB @Roko @Thatfootballguy @SilverOwl @Shane12m @Frank
> @SupremeSarna @Cevil @BloodPuppetX @Sefjwm @Ryan @Bogo @Boss @Archer @Scott @Lunar
> @Tonymack21 @Mattyg00013 @Bonham2 @Metsfan718 @Best1989 @3hitcombo @Jbjz
>
> PS...the prize for 1st place is $100 this year because @Shane12m graciously offered
> to add his winnings from this year to the 2024 pot to up the ante.
>
>


I'm in but I'll be sending a list in January.
zidimo
Double Gold Good Trader
11-Dec(#28)
sefjwm wrote:
> zidimo wrote:
>> Submitted my list. Round 5! A bit more confident in my list this year than previous
>> couple. First time I'm not putting Silksong on there.
>
> Silksong releasing 2024 confirmed

lmao with my luck, that'll be the case. Release date is still "TBA" on wikipedia and Steam, so I'm just gonna assume that game isn't real until it actually comes out in 3024.
DemonAlcohol
GameTZ Subscriber Quadruple Gold Good Trader Has Written 2 Reviews
11-Dec(#29)
I'm waiting for all the 'Upcoming in 2024' articles that most press websites have before submitting my picks. I can't even think of 5 games i'm excited for after this amazing year.

tonymack21
GameTZ Subscriber Bronze Good Trader Gold Global Trader (7) Has Written 3 Reviews
11-Dec(#30)
tag so i can come back with my list.

sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
11-Dec(#31)
I forget how we handle early access. Even if there are reviews we don't count it until it fully releases right? I want to put The Day Before on my list.
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
* 11-Dec(#32)
sefjwm wrote:
> I forget how we handle early access. Even if there are reviews we don't count it
> until it fully releases right? I want to put The Day Before on my list.

Best business model in the world.
1. Work on a game for 6 years with unpaid interns.
2. Release it to early access.
3. Four days later close down the company and shut the servers off for the game, prompting steam to remove it.
4. Profit???

Saw this wonder reddit post about it today as well:


There's a lot of lore to it (a few years) so I may miss bits out.

game was announced and became the most wishlistsed game on steam ever. Meant to be an open world MMO zombie survival game. Graphics were amazing, gameplay looked solid, it looked too good to be true (foreshadowing)

Fntastic accused of faking gameplay and using vertical slices to advertise on their trailers. They deny this

multiple plagerism allegations in the trailers (copying COD trailers and others)

not paying most staff and having "volunteers" instead of employees

one point said they had more news about the game, did a huge countdown then it was a bait and switch just to promote their new unrelated mobile app

multiple delays any time it was near release (like 5 delays?)

taken down from steam due to legal battle over their name

turned out they forgot to trademark the name and someone else used it

staff spoke with the media saying it was a super toxic workplace and terribly managed and saying they've been told to just copy other games

accusations of just being an asset flip game (turned out most of the game was from a £300 assistant pack on Unreal store) Fntastic deny this. Simply looking at the asset pack proves it.

think they got into crap with Nvidia who were sponsoring them at one point, after people thought the game was fake

-the devs are knows for releasing broken EA games and just abandoning them

a couple of days before launch they tweet that the game isn't a scam or an asset flip.

game comes out and its a scam and an asset flip. Its not the Open World MMO promised, its an extraction shooter

Many bugs, barely works, basically no zombies, area is tiny

-Fntastic delete old vids from youtube which showed MUCH better graphics and different gameplay, in an attempt to hide what they said prior.

Game gets Overwhelmingly Negative steam reviews.

-4 days after The Day Before releases, Fntastic say they're closing the studio and are abandoning the game.

This is years of lore and I've probably forgot some bits

Ryan
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15-Dec(#33)
Submitted!
incubus421
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18-Dec(#34)
@Heavyd814life We're in!

SilverOwl
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28-Dec(#35)
I submitted my answers, @Heavyd814life Could u double check my answers? I'm not sure if one or two of the Nintendo titles count
Heavyd814life
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28-Dec(#36)
SilverOwl wrote:
> I submitted my answers, @Heavyd814life Could u double check my answers? I'm not
> sure if one or two of the Nintendo titles count

You're good!

Shane12m
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29-Dec(#37)
Okay, got my list in. This was tough

I think two of my games will not make it this year, but my alternatives should review well enough. Taking a BIG risk on my first alternate, but I think its going to review really well despite the internet hate. (I also think it could bomb hard haha)
Heavyd814life
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29-Dec(#38)
Shane12m wrote:
> Okay, got my list in. This was tough
>
> I think two of my games will not make it this year, but my alternatives should review
> well enough. Taking a BIG risk on my first alternate, but I think its going to review
> really well despite the internet hate. (I also think it could bomb hard haha)

Yup big risk with that first alt lol. But you never know!

bonham2
600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
31-Dec(#39)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> PizzaTheHutt wrote:
>> I have a couple of questions before I submit my list. Where do we stand on Luigi's
>> Mansion 2 HD, Mario Vs. Donkey Kong and Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door? I'm
>> seeing more places refer to them as remasters than remakes, so they wouldn't count,
>> right? I also am leaning more towards the remaster side, I think Switch's last
> hurrah
>> were TotK, Pikmin 4 and SMB Wonder and from now everything else will be something
>> they can just make a quick buck off of until the next console. But I just want
> to
>> be sure before I officially exclude them.
>>
>>
>
> Yeah, Nintendo games can be tough sometimes because they are so inconsistent with
> the way they title their projects. The wiki pages I've checked have both Mario vs
> Donkey Kong and Paper Mario as remakes and Luigi's Mansion 2 HD as a remaster so
> I think we should just go with that
>
>

If I'm understanding this, we can pick Paper Mario and Mario vs DK and we can't pick Luigi's Mansion 2, right?
Heavyd814life
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1-Jan(#40)
bonham2 wrote:
> Heavyd814life wrote:
>> PizzaTheHutt wrote:
> |>> I have a couple of questions before I submit my list. Where do we stand on Luigi's
> |>> Mansion 2 HD, Mario Vs. Donkey Kong and Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door?
> I'm
> |>> seeing more places refer to them as remasters than remakes, so they wouldn't
> count,
> |>> right? I also am leaning more towards the remaster side, I think Switch's last
>> hurrah
> |>> were TotK, Pikmin 4 and SMB Wonder and from now everything else will be something
> |>> they can just make a quick buck off of until the next console. But I just want
>> to
> |>> be sure before I officially exclude them.
> |>>
> |>>
>>
>> Yeah, Nintendo games can be tough sometimes because they are so inconsistent with
>> the way they title their projects. The wiki pages I've checked have both Mario
> vs
>> Donkey Kong and Paper Mario as remakes and Luigi's Mansion 2 HD as a remaster
> so
>> I think we should just go with that
>>
>>
>
> If I'm understanding this, we can pick Paper Mario and Mario vs DK and we can't pick
> Luigi's Mansion 2, right?

Yup, that's correct!

Heavyd814life
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1-Jan(#41)
Happy New Year, you beautiful people! Just a quick reminder that signups close in 2 weeks. Plenty of time, but I wanted to send out a quick reminder. Also if you've already submitted your list and would like to make changes before the deadline, just shoot me a PM and I can make those changes for you.

BloodPuppetX
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1-Jan(#42)
Submitted my list.
sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
2-Jan(#43)
Got my list down to 20 or so games, just need to make the final cuts.
HybridCRoW
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
2-Jan(#44)
I'm going to have to pass this round. Too much going on with work and studying for more certifications.
Kommie
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2-Jan(#45)
I'll watch the topic again, but I'm just too lazy to put in effort to make a list.
sailorneorune
GameTZ Subscriber Quadruple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (7) Has Written 3 Reviews
2-Jan(#46)
Another Code: Recollection includes the Trace Memory sequel that never got a release in North America on the Wii. Would this count as eligible?

BloodPuppetX
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2-Jan(#47)
sailorneorune wrote:
> Another Code: Recollection includes the Trace Memory sequel that never got a release
> in North America on the Wii. Would this count as eligible?
>
>

I wondered that as well, but ultimately just decided not to put it on my list. (Btw, after playing the demo it appears that Recollection will simply have you play them in order like one game. I didn't even see a greyed out selection for the sequel.)

I tried something different this time and guessed a game not announced. (A new 3D Mario.) I think my alternates were safe enough guesses.
bonham2
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2-Jan(#48)
I submitted my list...this year is very hard. Question though, what is the take on Last of Us 2 Remastered? Is that acceptable? I'm guessing no.
sailorneorune
GameTZ Subscriber Quadruple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (7) Has Written 3 Reviews
2-Jan(#49)
I submitted mine.

sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
2-Jan(#50)
New Star Wars Outlaws game already looking like it's going to slip heh. "Late 2024" release window.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) This user is on the site NOW (8 minutes ago)
2-Jan(#51)
BloodPuppetX wrote:
> sailorneorune wrote:
>> Another Code: Recollection includes the Trace Memory sequel that never got a release
>> in North America on the Wii. Would this count as eligible?
>>
>>
>
> I wondered that as well, but ultimately just decided not to put it on my list. (Btw,
> after playing the demo it appears that Recollection will simply have you play them
> in order like one game. I didn't even see a greyed out selection for the sequel.)
>
> I tried something different this time and guessed a game not announced. (A new 3D
> Mario.) I think my alternates were safe enough guesses.

Yeah, it's being considered a remake because apparently they've made a bunch of changes to it (adding voice acting, new scenes etc) so yeah it's eligible.

Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) This user is on the site NOW (8 minutes ago)
2-Jan(#52)
bonham2 wrote:
> I submitted my list...this year is very hard. Question though, what is the take on
> Last of Us 2 Remastered? Is that acceptable? I'm guessing no.

Nah. It's a remaster so it doesn't qualify.

TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
2-Jan(#53)
sefjwm wrote:
> New Star Wars Outlaws game already looking like it's going to slip heh. "Late 2024"
> release window.

Watch it slip 2024 completely. Glad I removed this one from my list last minute too.
Heavyd814life
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2-Jan(#54)
sefjwm wrote:
> Got my list down to 20 or so games, just need to make the final cuts.

Damn! This was one of the easier years for me. I didn't really overthink it and I had my list done in less than an hour. I went back and forth between 2 games for my final pick, though. Decided in the end to go with the game I think reviewers will like instead of the game I'm personally way more interested in.

Heavyd814life
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2-Jan(#55)
TalonJedi87 wrote:
> sefjwm wrote:
>> New Star Wars Outlaws game already looking like it's going to slip heh. "Late
> 2024"
>> release window.
>
> Watch it slip 2024 completely. Glad I removed this one from my list last minute too.
>

It looks so awesome, but it's Ubisoft. I just don't trust them.

sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
2-Jan(#56)
Heavyd814life wrote:
>
> Damn! This was one of the easier years for me. I didn't really overthink it and I
> had my list done in less than an hour. I went back and forth between 2 games for
> my final pick, though. Decided in the end to go with the game I think reviewers will
> like instead of the game I'm personally way more interested in.
>
>

It's mostly because I like to have weird and lesser known picks in there but don't want to completely hamstring my list. Also can't decide if this is the year I add Silksong lol
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
2-Jan(#57)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> TalonJedi87 wrote:
>> sefjwm wrote:
> |>> New Star Wars Outlaws game already looking like it's going to slip heh. "Late
>> 2024"
> |>> release window.
>>
>> Watch it slip 2024 completely. Glad I removed this one from my list last minute
> too.
>>
>
> It looks so awesome, but it's Ubisoft. I just don't trust them.
>
>

Agreed. I’m sure it’ll be somewhat fun but littered with a bajillion check boxes in a sandbox with MTX galore.
Boss
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3-Jan(#58)
List submitted.
sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
* 6-Jan(#59)
Submitted but there were like 10 more games I wanted to put in the 9-12 spots xD Also, just couldn't put Silksong on the list this year, but I do got a spicy one.

I'll post my whole list once we start.
Heavyd814life
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* 7-Jan(#60)
Final week to submit entries, guys.

@EB @HybridCRoW @SwiftJAB @Cevil @Scott @Metsfan718 @Best1989 @3hitcombo @Jbjz

thatfootballguy
Triple Gold Good Trader
8-Jan(#61)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> Final week to submit entries, guys.
>
> @EB @HybridCRoW @SwiftJAB @Cevil @Bogo @Scott @Tonymack21 @Mattyg00013 @Metsfan718
> @Best1989 @3hitcombo @Jbjz
>


Appreciate the reminder!
bogo
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8-Jan(#62)
yes! Just got back from vacation. will get that in at some point soon!
bogo
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9-Jan(#63)
aaaand done!
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
9-Jan(#64)
I was going to edit my list again this year. As I've done every year after submitting. But then decided I wont this year. I'll just live and die by early selections. It'll be more fun that way. I think I should be fine and end up with 10 rated picks. Even though a couple of them are dicey.
sefjwm
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10-Jan(#65)
If Prince of Persia reviews well can I change one of my picks to it? raspberry
Shane12m
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10-Jan(#66)
sefjwm wrote:
> If Prince of Persia reviews well can I change one of my picks to it? raspberry

The deadline is January 14th so yes! lol
PizzaTheHutt
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader Has Written 3 Reviews
10-Jan(#67)
I'm hoping that game does review well. It looks pretty good, but it was downvoted to hell and back when they originally uploaded the reveal trailer.

TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
10-Jan(#68)
The new PoP is on my list too. I have a good feeling about this one.
Heavyd814life
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* 10-Jan(#69)
Wow, didn't realize the embargo for this one lifted so early. Looks like reviews drop tomorrow. An early embargo like this is typically a good sign, but nothing about the footage I saw wowed me so I left it off my list.

EDIT: It's on 7 of the 23 lists so far so looking forward to seeing how it reviews.

Shane12m
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10-Jan(#70)
Yeah I left it off my list because I didn’t really look into it much. Didn’t know it was the same team that made Raymon legends. Looks cool. I’m thinking it could score high 80s
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
11-Jan(#71)
Yeah same. I’m hoping the new PoP lands in mid to high 80’s.
mattyg00013
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11-Jan(#72)
Thanks for the reminder, my list has been submitted.
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
11-Jan(#73)
PoP sitting comfortably at an 87 with 20 reviews so far on MC!
benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
11-Jan(#74)
I think at this point if you haven't chosen it for your list, it should be off limits for revisions adding it.

Heavyd814life
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11-Jan(#75)
benstylus wrote:
> I think at this point if you haven't chosen it for your list, it should be off limits
> for revisions adding it.
>
>

Oh yeah definitely, but I think everyone knows that. @mattyg00013 submitted his list last night so 8 people have it on their lists. Great start for sure!

sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
11-Jan(#76)
One would hope xD

I was waffling on it and another game that did make the list. Kicking myself now as mid 80s is strong in most years.
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
11-Jan(#77)
I'm actually surprised at that score.
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
11-Jan(#78)
I have it on my list and yeah, 87 is way better than I expected the new PoP to land in at. I was anticipating high 70's-80. I mean I'm happy to see a return to form for the series indeed. It's been a damn long time coming. I just hope that Ubi sees how hungry folks are for traditional action/adventure games without needing a massive open world sandbox complete with live service elements galore and continues to keep games like this coming our way.
benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
11-Jan(#79)
Archer wrote:
> I'm actually surprised at that score.

I'm less surprised (though still a bit). Looking at the trailers it seems to play a lot like those indie games that everyone loves so much. To see that gameplay with Ubi production values is pretty cool. I was expecting 80ish but no more than 85

Heavyd814life
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* 11-Jan(#80)
Hey guys, remember that we are using OpenCritic this year. So PoP is currently at 86 from 79 reviews. Definitely didn’t see this coming, either. It wasn’t even on my radar when I was putting my list together.

https://opencritic.com/game/15867/prince-of-persia...

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