Top 10: 1. Alone in the Dark 2. Black Myth: Wukong 3. Dragon's Dogma 2 4. Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth 5. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90 6. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77 7. Outcast - A New Beginning 8. Persona 3 Reload - 90 9. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87 10. Tekken 8 - 90
Alternates: 1. Princess Peach: Showtime 2. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League - 62
Top 10: 1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 2. Hollow Knight: Silksong 3. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90 4. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77 5. Metroid Prime 4 6. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 7. Persona 3 Reload - 90 8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II 9. Star Wars Outlaws 10. Tekken 8 - 90
Alternates: 1. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87 2. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl
Top 10: 1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 2. Granblue Fantasy: Relink - 81 3. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90 4. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77 5. Metroid Prime 4 6. Mina the Hollower 7. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II 8. Tales of Kenzera: Zau 9. Tekken 8 - 90 10. The Plucky Squire
Top 10: 1. Black Myth: Wukong 2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 3. Hollow Knight: Silksong 4. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77 5. Persona 3 Reload - 90 6. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87 7. Princess Peach: Showtime 8. Rise of the Ronin 9. Silent Hill 2 10. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League - 62
Alternates: 1. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater 2. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
Top 10: 1. Dragon's Dogma 2 2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 3. Frostpunk 2 4. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90 5. Metaphor: ReFantazio 6. Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 7. Persona 3 Reload - 90 8. Rise of the Ronin 9. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II 10. Tekken 8 - 90
Alternates: 1. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl 2. The Plucky Squire
Top 10: 1. Dragon's Dogma 2 2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes 3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 4. Granblue Fantasy: Relink - 81 5. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90 6. Princess Peach: Showtime 7. Rise of the Ronin 8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II 8. Tekken 8 - 90 10. Visions of Mana
Alternates: 1. Alone in the Dark 2. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
Top 10: 1. Dragon's Dogma 2 2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 3. Granblue Fantasy: Relink - 81 4. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90 5. Metaphor: ReFantazio 6. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater 7. Persona 3 Reload - 90 8. Rise of the Ronin 9. Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 10. The Legend of Heroes: Trails Through Daybreak
Alternates: 1. Little Nightmares III 2. Tekken 8 - 90
Top 10: 1. Dragon's Dogma 2 2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes 3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 4. Granblue Fantasy: Relink - 81 5. Little Nightmares III 6. New 3D Mario 7. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87 8. Princess Peach: Showtime 9. Under Night In Birth II - 85 10. Unicorn Overlord
Alternates: 1. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90 2. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
Top 10: 1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 2. Granblue Fantasy: Relink - 81 3. Hades II 4. Helldivers 2 - 82 5. Hollow Knight: Silksong 6. Metaphor: ReFantazio 7. Metroid Prime 4 8. New 3D Mario 9. Tekken 8 - 90 10. Unicorn Overlord
Alternates: 1. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes 2. New Mainline Pokemon
Top 10: 1. Avowed 2. Dragon's Dogma 2 3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 4. Helldivers 2 - 82 5. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77 6. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 7. Princess Peach: Showtime 8. Rise of the Ronin 9. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II 10. Tekken 8 - 90
Alternates: 1. Skull and Bones 2. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl
Top 10: 1. Earthblade 2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes 3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 4. Frostpunk 2 5. Jurassic Park: Survival 6. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90 7. Mewgenics 8. Rise of the Ronin 9. Tekken 8 - 90 10. The Wolf Among Us 2
Alternates: 1. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II 2. Star Wars Outlaws
Top 10: 1. Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons 2. Dragon's Dogma 2 3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 4. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90 5. Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 6. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 7. Persona 3 Reload - 90 8. Rise of the Ronin 9. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II 10. Unicorn Overlord
Top 10: 1. Dragon's Dogma 2 2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes 3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 4. Hades II 5. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90 6. Metaphor: ReFantazio 7. Persona 3 Reload - 90 8. Rise of Ronin 9. Stellar Blade 10. Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2
Alternates: 1. Black Myth: Wukong 2. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
Top 10: 1. Black Myth: Wukong 2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 3. Hollow Knight: Silksong 4. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater 5. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 6. Persona 3 Reload - 90 7. Princess Peach: Showtime 8. Rise of the Ronin 9. Silent Hill 2 10. Tekken 8 - 90
Alternates: 1. Animal Well 2. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
Top 10: 1. Dragon's Dogma 2 2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes 3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 4. Hollow Knight: Silksong 5. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90 6. Metaphor: ReFantazio 7. Persona 3 Reload - 90 8. Rise of the Ronin 9. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II 10. Unicorn Overlord
Top 10: 1. Avowed 2. Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden - 82 3. Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons 4. Dragon's Dogma 2 5. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 6. Frostpunk 2 7. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90 8. Hollow Knight: Silksong 9. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II 10. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl
Alternates: 1. Homeworld 3 2. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
Top 10: 1. Decapolice 2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 3. Hades II 4. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77 5. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater 6. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 7. Persona 3 Reload - 90 8. Princess Peach: Showtime 9. The Wolf Among Us 2 10. Unicorn Overlord
Alternates: 1. Contra: Operation Galuga 2. Silent Hill 2
Top 10: 1. Another Code: Recollection - 74 2. Decapolice 3. Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time 4. Little Nightmares III 5. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 6. Princess Peach: Showtime 7. Tekken 8 - 90 8. The Plucky Squire 9. Unicorn Overlord 10. Visions of Mana
Alternates: 1. Cat Quest III 2. Metaphor ReFantazio
Top 10: 1. Another Code: Recollection - 74 2. Arzette: The Jewel of Faramore 3. Contra: Operation Galuga 4. Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time 5. Penny’s Big Breakaway 6. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87 7. Princess Peach: Showtime 8. Shadow of the Ninja Reborn 9. Shantae Advance: Risky Revolution 10. Ufouria: The Saga 2
Top 10: 1. Avowed 2. Black Myth: Wukong 3. Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons 4. Dragon's Dogma 2 5. Fable 6. Persona 3 Reload - 90 7. Princess Peach: Showtime 8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 9. Skull and Bones 10. The First Descendant
Alternates: 1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 2. Rise of the Ronin
Top 10: 1. Black Myth: Wukong 2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes 3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 4. Hades II 5. Nightingale 6. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 7. Princess Peach: Showtime 8. Tekken 8 - 90 9. Unicorn Overlord 10. Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2
Top 10: 1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 2. Hades II 3. Hollow Knight: Silksong 4. New Kirby 5. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 6. Princess Peach: Showtime 7. Shantae Advance: Risky Revolution 8. Tekken 8 - 90 9. Visions of Mana 10. Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2
Alternates: 1. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77 2. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League - 62
Top 10: 1. Dragon's Dogma 2 2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 3. Hollow Knight: Silksong 4. Metroid Prime 4 5. New 2D Zelda 6. New F-Zero 7. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 8. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87 9. Princess Peach: Showtime 10. Star Wars Outlaws
Alternates: 1. Homeworld 3 2. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
Top 10: 1. Avowed 2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 3. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater 4. Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 5. New 3D Mario 6. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87 7. Princess Peach: Showtime 8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II 9. Silent Hill 2 10. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl
Top 10: 1. Avowed 2. Black Myth: Wukong 3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 4. Hades II 5. Homeworld 3 6. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77 7. Metaphor: ReFantazio 8. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 9. Princess Peach: Showtime 10. Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2
Alternates: 1. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater 2. Rise of the Ronin
Top 10: 1. Dragon's Dogma 2 2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 3. Hades II 4. Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 5. New 3D Mario 6. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 7. Rise of the Ronin 8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II 9. Star Wars Outlaws 10. Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2
Alternates: 1. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87 2. Tekken 8 - 90
Top 10: 1. Behemoth 2. Contra: Operation Galuga 3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 4. Little Kitty, Big City 5. Little Nightmares III 6. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater 7. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 8. Silent Hill 2 9. South Park: Snow Day 10. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl
Alternates: 1. Skull and Bones 2. World Of Goo 2
Upcoming Releases:
January: Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - January 18 Another Code: Recollection - January 19 Under Night In Birth II - January 25 Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - January 26 Tekken 8 - January 26
February: Granblue Fantasy: Relink - February 1 Persona 3 Reload - February 2 Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League - February 2 Helldivers 2 - February 8 Arzette: The Jewel of Faramore - February 13 Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden - February 13 Mario vs. Donkey Kong - February 16 Skull and Bones - February 16 Nightingale - February 22 Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons - February 28 Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - February 29 Ufouria: The Saga 2 - February 29
March: Homeworld 3 - March 8 Unicorn Overlord - March 8 Outcast: A New Beginning - March 15 Alone in the Dark - March 20 Dragon's Dogma 2 - March 22 Princess Peach: Showtime - March 22 Rise of the Ronin - March 22 South Park: Snow Day - March 26
April: Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes - April 23 Tales of Kenzera: Zau - April 23 Stellar Blade - April 26
May: Senua's Saga: Hellblade II - May 21
August: Black Myth: Wukong - August 20
September: S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - September 5 Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 - September 9
League Overview:
Welcome to Year 7 of the GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League! This is basically fantasy football with games. Each person picks 10 games and those 10 games make up your "team" for the year. The OpenCritic scores for your 10 games are tallied up at the end of the year to determine your total. Highest overall score wins. You also get 2 alternate picks (these should be safe choices) just in case one of your picks gets delayed into 2025. So if you shoot for the moon with a game like Marvel's Wolverine and it gets pushed into 2025, one of your alternates takes its place and you don't end up with 0 points for that game. The goal is to pick games that you think have a very good chance of releasing in 2024. Don't YOLO your way into a bunch of 0s lol.
The Rules: 1. No DLC or Expansions 2. No Ports or Remasters (full remakes are allowed) 3. Alternate picks can only replace games delayed into 2025. They cannot be used to replace games in your top 10 that review poorly.
The Prizes: 1st Place: A $100 Amazon Gift Card 2nd Place: A $20 Amazon Gift Card 3rd Place: A $10 Amazon Gift Card
Done and done! I left off 2 that I wasn’t sure about even coming out in 2024, those being Avowed and Vampires the Masquerade Bloodlines 2 but watch 2024 will be the year that Vampires decides to release. 😑
@Heavyd814life I have a couple of questions before I submit my list. Where do we stand on Luigi's Mansion 2 HD, Mario Vs. Donkey Kong and Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door? I'm seeing more places refer to them as remasters than remakes, so they wouldn't count, right? I also am leaning more towards the remaster side, I think Switch's last hurrah were TotK, Pikmin 4 and SMB Wonder and from now everything else will be something they can just make a quick buck off of until the next console. But I just want to be sure before I officially exclude them.
> I have a couple of questions before I submit my list. Where do we stand on Luigi's
> Mansion 2 HD, Mario Vs. Donkey Kong and Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door? I'm
> seeing more places refer to them as remasters than remakes, so they wouldn't count,
> right? I also am leaning more towards the remaster side, I think Switch's last hurrah
> were TotK, Pikmin 4 and SMB Wonder and from now everything else will be something
> they can just make a quick buck off of until the next console. But I just want to
> be sure before I officially exclude them.
>
>
Yeah, Nintendo games can be tough sometimes because they are so inconsistent with the way they title their projects. The wiki pages I've checked have both Mario vs Donkey Kong and Paper Mario as remakes and Luigi's Mansion 2 HD as a remaster so I think we should just go with that
Lol just shoot me a pm if you want to make any changes. Still plenty of time to reconsider. I can send you your list and you just let me know what you want to swap in.
Looking up multiple YouTubers' "2024 games I'm looking forward to" videos, it seems like 2023 is going to be a tough act to follow. There's only a few games (announced so far) I'd be excited about. I'm going to take a few risks on my list instead of just playing it safe. I put 4 or 5 games that I'd be surprised if they appear on anyone else's list. I might end up regretting that, but oh well.
I just put what I know for sure is coming out in 2024 for like 75% of my list whether they do good or not. I rather take the risk of potentially lower scores vs no scores at all if a game that doesn’t have a firm release date or window ends up not coming out next year.
Dang now I kinda wanna redo my list and add it but it’s ok I’ll wing it with what I have and curse myself out later when Silksong launches in April 2024 with a 93 meta score from 38 critics.
>> Submitted my list. Round 5! A bit more confident in my list this year than previous
>> couple. First time I'm not putting Silksong on there.
>
> Silksong releasing 2024 confirmed
lmao with my luck, that'll be the case. Release date is still "TBA" on wikipedia and Steam, so I'm just gonna assume that game isn't real until it actually comes out in 3024.
I'm waiting for all the 'Upcoming in 2024' articles that most press websites have before submitting my picks. I can't even think of 5 games i'm excited for after this amazing year.
I forget how we handle early access. Even if there are reviews we don't count it until it fully releases right? I want to put The Day Before on my list.
> I forget how we handle early access. Even if there are reviews we don't count it
> until it fully releases right? I want to put The Day Before on my list.
Best business model in the world. 1. Work on a game for 6 years with unpaid interns. 2. Release it to early access. 3. Four days later close down the company and shut the servers off for the game, prompting steam to remove it. 4. Profit???
Saw this wonder reddit post about it today as well:
There's a lot of lore to it (a few years) so I may miss bits out.
game was announced and became the most wishlistsed game on steam ever. Meant to be an open world MMO zombie survival game. Graphics were amazing, gameplay looked solid, it looked too good to be true (foreshadowing)
Fntastic accused of faking gameplay and using vertical slices to advertise on their trailers. They deny this
multiple plagerism allegations in the trailers (copying COD trailers and others)
not paying most staff and having "volunteers" instead of employees
one point said they had more news about the game, did a huge countdown then it was a bait and switch just to promote their new unrelated mobile app
multiple delays any time it was near release (like 5 delays?)
taken down from steam due to legal battle over their name
turned out they forgot to trademark the name and someone else used it
staff spoke with the media saying it was a super toxic workplace and terribly managed and saying they've been told to just copy other games
accusations of just being an asset flip game (turned out most of the game was from a £300 assistant pack on Unreal store) Fntastic deny this. Simply looking at the asset pack proves it.
think they got into crap with Nvidia who were sponsoring them at one point, after people thought the game was fake
-the devs are knows for releasing broken EA games and just abandoning them
a couple of days before launch they tweet that the game isn't a scam or an asset flip.
game comes out and its a scam and an asset flip. Its not the Open World MMO promised, its an extraction shooter
Many bugs, barely works, basically no zombies, area is tiny
-Fntastic delete old vids from youtube which showed MUCH better graphics and different gameplay, in an attempt to hide what they said prior.
Game gets Overwhelmingly Negative steam reviews.
-4 days after The Day Before releases, Fntastic say they're closing the studio and are abandoning the game.
This is years of lore and I've probably forgot some bits
I think two of my games will not make it this year, but my alternatives should review well enough. Taking a BIG risk on my first alternate, but I think its going to review really well despite the internet hate. (I also think it could bomb hard haha)
Happy New Year, you beautiful people! Just a quick reminder that signups close in 2 weeks. Plenty of time, but I wanted to send out a quick reminder. Also if you've already submitted your list and would like to make changes before the deadline, just shoot me a PM and I can make those changes for you.
> Another Code: Recollection includes the Trace Memory sequel that never got a release
> in North America on the Wii. Would this count as eligible?
>
>
I wondered that as well, but ultimately just decided not to put it on my list. (Btw, after playing the demo it appears that Recollection will simply have you play them in order like one game. I didn't even see a greyed out selection for the sequel.)
I tried something different this time and guessed a game not announced. (A new 3D Mario.) I think my alternates were safe enough guesses.
>> Another Code: Recollection includes the Trace Memory sequel that never got a release
>> in North America on the Wii. Would this count as eligible?
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>>
>
> I wondered that as well, but ultimately just decided not to put it on my list. (Btw,
> after playing the demo it appears that Recollection will simply have you play them
> in order like one game. I didn't even see a greyed out selection for the sequel.)
>
> I tried something different this time and guessed a game not announced. (A new 3D
> Mario.) I think my alternates were safe enough guesses.
Yeah, it's being considered a remake because apparently they've made a bunch of changes to it (adding voice acting, new scenes etc) so yeah it's eligible.
> Got my list down to 20 or so games, just need to make the final cuts.
Damn! This was one of the easier years for me. I didn't really overthink it and I had my list done in less than an hour. I went back and forth between 2 games for my final pick, though. Decided in the end to go with the game I think reviewers will like instead of the game I'm personally way more interested in.
> Damn! This was one of the easier years for me. I didn't really overthink it and I
> had my list done in less than an hour. I went back and forth between 2 games for
> my final pick, though. Decided in the end to go with the game I think reviewers will
> like instead of the game I'm personally way more interested in.
>
>
It's mostly because I like to have weird and lesser known picks in there but don't want to completely hamstring my list. Also can't decide if this is the year I add Silksong lol
Submitted but there were like 10 more games I wanted to put in the 9-12 spots xD Also, just couldn't put Silksong on the list this year, but I do got a spicy one.
I was going to edit my list again this year. As I've done every year after submitting. But then decided I wont this year. I'll just live and die by early selections. It'll be more fun that way. I think I should be fine and end up with 10 rated picks. Even though a couple of them are dicey.
Wow, didn't realize the embargo for this one lifted so early. Looks like reviews drop tomorrow. An early embargo like this is typically a good sign, but nothing about the footage I saw wowed me so I left it off my list.
EDIT: It's on 7 of the 23 lists so far so looking forward to seeing how it reviews.
Yeah I left it off my list because I didn’t really look into it much. Didn’t know it was the same team that made Raymon legends. Looks cool. I’m thinking it could score high 80s
> I think at this point if you haven't chosen it for your list, it should be off limits
> for revisions adding it.
>
>
Oh yeah definitely, but I think everyone knows that. @mattyg00013 submitted his list last night so 8 people have it on their lists. Great start for sure!
I have it on my list and yeah, 87 is way better than I expected the new PoP to land in at. I was anticipating high 70's-80. I mean I'm happy to see a return to form for the series indeed. It's been a damn long time coming. I just hope that Ubi sees how hungry folks are for traditional action/adventure games without needing a massive open world sandbox complete with live service elements galore and continues to keep games like this coming our way.
I'm less surprised (though still a bit). Looking at the trailers it seems to play a lot like those indie games that everyone loves so much. To see that gameplay with Ubi production values is pretty cool. I was expecting 80ish but no more than 85
Hey guys, remember that we are using OpenCritic this year. So PoP is currently at 86 from 79 reviews. Definitely didn’t see this coming, either. It wasn’t even on my radar when I was putting my list together.