VideoGame_Discussion

MrBean wrote:

That part is universal to all endings. Really cool. Only difference is if you refuse you get the last fight. Otherwise the endings pretty weak.

Another thing that is different in NG- you get the device that allows you to understand the puppets you’re killing- and they’re not saying what you think. That was pretty neat for story.

Kommie wrote:

The game wasn't delayed, the day one patch was. Which is really odd. I guess this is a late patch they threw together based on review and early access copies for youtubers. So it hit the certification like yesterday. Not sure why xbox and playstaton have such different certification processes. xbox always takes so damn long.

Wooo, LotF just shipped and says estimated for delivery tomorrow!

Sounds like game isn’t quite there yet. Maybe a delay was in order.

No clue why the remake of LOTF had to come out in a month where both Nintendo and Sony are going to release two of their heavy hitting titles for the start of this holiday season. For example, THQ had the right idea pushing back Alone in the Dark to January. They didn’t want any of what this holiday rush was going to ensue.

Good thing I have zero interest in open world Spooder Man and whatever Nintendo is selling!

That’s a shame.

Sony and the generic open world game that sells like hot cakes.... And Nintendo isp probably selling some platformer?

Hey, look on the bright side- it could be another impossibly difficult game with gloomy gothic setting and monsters. A change is nice.

So Lords of the Fallen is actually pretty damn okay so far. Its like they just decided to make a Dark Souls 3 clone and asked to use the Lords of Fallen IP to do so. Menus are straight up DS3. Actually, most of how the game setup is pretty much DS3. However it does have some major issues. Not sure if just the xbox version or what. But I'm putting off playing anymore until that patch comes out. Because it has some major performance issues. Frame rate drops, pop ins, hitching/stuttering, potato graphics in spots and some goofy animations. Like in some of the cut-scenes (game rendered and pre-rendered) the character does not appear to be connected to the world. Like he is moving independently of the rest of the world/scene. Its, extremely odd. But Unreal Engine is also a steamy pile of crap these days.

I only played for about an hour. But so far, this seems like it has potential to be one of the best souls clones. I do also however think this lamp mechanic and going back and forth between realms is going to be over used and outstay its welcome. Its already some what annoying how much its used in the first bit of the game. Again, only an hour, but I feel the game would be better without it. Oh, I almost forgot, I had two cut-scenes randomly end on me before they were actually over. So, fudge the story at this point, I have no idea whats going on in that regard. And honestly don't care. Just want the game play. Its a souls clone.

So the xbox patch came out today. They made it sound like it wouldn't be until next week. Its the same one as PC and PS5 now as far as I can tell. Still needs more patches however, but it seems like it will be playable now at least. It fixed most of the hitching/stuttering. Doesn't happen during combat anymore, but happens anytime you use the lamp. And there are still some random potato graphics, but way way less. I think this could be due to using performance and not quality mode. So I can live with the random potato graphic if it means the game will run smoother. The character also moves less weighted now, its more floaty. I don't like that, but I'll look past it for now because I like so much else about the game. Its got decent combat so far. Haven't tried any magic yet. Started as the basic knight with a sword and shield. I can't stress enough how much like DS3, with a hint of Bloodbourn a lot of this game is. I didn't really have a lot of time to play just now, just booted up to download and check it out. But I think its in a decent state to keep playing from what I just experienced. I'll definitely be playing this tonight and over the weekend. Baring any horrible issues I run into.

EDIT: yeah scrap that. this still isn't playable. Should have been delayed another year. Game needs massive work. Tried to take on the first boss, and it potato graphics everywhere and 10fps during the entire fight. I can't even do the fight because its so bad. It also freezes/stutters/hitches every 5 seconds, for about a full second. Its insane. How the fudge can games continually be released like this.

EDIT 2: Turning hdr off at the console level has fixed a lot of the graphical/performance issues. It actually runs way smoother now. And no more potato graphics either.

EDIT 3: Didn't last long. Guess on the shelf this goes until a bunch of patches come out. Too bad. I was looking forward to playing this.

Well, thats super disappointing to hear. Was hoping to play Sunday.

I had to change the pickup location for my Ps5 copy but overall I'm reading PS5 is far better than Xbox. Best Buy where I pre ordered it didn't even get a copy. I also set the steel book to ship.

If it sucks performance wise I'll just wait to play. I technically only paid $20+ tax with a $50 Gift card I got from work via this Bravo recognition system.

Yeah, from what I'm reading on reddit the PS5 version is actually best version. The xbox version is utter trash. And the PC version doesn't sound like its much better for most people. But most PS5 users are saying its fine. Seem odd. Maybe its time I buy a new PS5 controller and dust off the PS5.

I’ve been playing ps5 for 3-4 hours. It’s fine. Some stuttering in cut scenes, some really annoying collision detection / environmental impedance with attacks- otherwise it’s ok. Not liking the dark realm stuff at all so far. It looks better than I expected too.

Feeb wrote:

How are you liking it so far. I'm really digging it personally. More than any other souls clone. Just this horrible performance on xbox is making really unplayable at times.

Does the PS5 version have the weird floaty character where when you do an attack combo you float forward and into or past an enemy?

Archer wrote:

Not seeing any of the floaty stuff. It feels pretty visceral - maybe the haptics? It’s ok so far. Way too many enemies in some of the early areas- and they give very low rewards. Leveling feels much more important here. I’d say this definitely feels more DS3 than most. Lies of P felt much more BB after it got rolling. It’s substantially better than that 2014 trash.

Kommie wrote:

Did BB get an exclusive steelbook??

MrBean wrote:

There's a steelbook, yeah. No idea if it's exclusive.

Matchmaking is not working it seems. A few bosses in and it’s just not right. One shot literally. Lots of weapons drop but they need stats and leveling is a real grind. A buff to exp gains is needed pretty badly here.

Gdamnit. Yeah. BB has an exclusive steelbook. I got the CE from GS which has a different steelbook.

@Kommie or anyone else wanna sell theirs?

Stumbled upon the joy of dual wielding flaming axes and things are looking up. Smash.

Sounds like PS5 has a save corruption issue. Lots of people reporting corrupted/delete saves. And losing entire days worth of play time because they have to download from the PS+ server from before they started playing today. This launch is a hot mess. I guess no one should be buying games on day one anymore. No game launches smoothly it seems anymore.

Feeb wrote:

Yeah, I was dual wielding maces. I got two of them to drop before the first boss. Dual wielding is fantastic.

Ugh. This game is a messy slog. The targeting is off and causes flailing deaths frequently- there are entirely too many spongy enemies placed in sequence. This world is nice but the idea to make it pretty much a linear run with obscene numbers of cheesey mobs with range etc is an awful design choice. Not enjoying it much. Going to stick with it but about 10 hours and it is getting worse and worse more of the same.

@feeb Yeah I didn't get far before shelving it to wait for patches. But the more I read of people playing on PC and PS5 that have gotten far, most have nothing but bad things to say. Super dense enemy placement. Ranged wizard enemies that can snipe you with locked on projectiles from farther away than you can render/see. The auto lock on swapping to super far away enemies. Seems the game has a bad amount of artificial difficulty stuff, along with horrid balancing.

Oh I also read today they remove the bonfires (forget what they are called) in NG+. From what I played, there is already so little of them. You go for such a long time between if you don't have one of those seeds to grow a temporary one. And you can only have one of those at a time. And then in NG+ they thought it would be a good idea to just remove them entirely.

Yeah it’s looking like the reviews at 5-6 are correct so far. The targeting has to be one of my biggest gripes. A huge mechanic is enemies spawning into the realm - you cannot target them for a good second after they appear. This is causing me to flail at nothing, lose the camera and fall repeatedly etc. that single issue has caused me a ton of time.

Sounds like the new LOTF is just as messy as the original one. Think it’ll be a hard pass and/game pass title for me.

TalonJedi87 wrote:

It’s not nearly as bad as OG. The further I get the more it feels like they made a huge mistake in the sequence of the game. It feels like blightown and the crapty swamp areas of DS very early and very often. They went for frustratingly cheap inflated difficulty - but if you’re into that it’s fine and I can see why some masochistic souls fans would love it.

I honestly never found blightown to be that bad and your comments make me even more excited to play. Optimistic to possibly start tomorrow.

If you love the souls grind this one is for you. It’s got that “must get more souls” thing going on. Addictive as hell.

I played a couple hours just now. As there was a new patch today. Still not great, but a bit better. Anyway, fudge the swamp and these drops to 2fps. Holy fudge. Blight town aint got nothing on this crap. I've never experienced anything like that in a console game before. Not even the fabled Lichdom Battlemage was that bad. And that game is famous for its horrific frame rate on PS4/Xb1.

It's just so sad that this is (and has been) the new norm. Rush to meet a date with issues and patch later.

Yet in the modern world of agile development and MVP delivery, ti's part for the course for today's SDLC.

So uh, yeah. I refunded this on xbox and bought it on PS5 after watching some game play videos of that. And holy crap. This is a different game. It looks fantastic compared to the xbox version. Like I can't fathom how its such a pile of crap on xbox compared to this version. This is not the first game this year with this issue either. It also does not have the performance issues. No hitching, no stuttering. No crazy frame drops (I'm not at the swamp yet but the xbox version had them everywhere). This is like night and day. It actually looks really good. And plays so much smoother. Its like I was playing the PS3 version on my xbox. I'm glad I went and finally bought a new PS5 controller. Its been too long since I've used this system. Pretty much been using the SX all year.

Aside from the messy targeting it plays rather well on ps5.

Just opened the LotF CE. Sadly, doesn't feel worth the money. It's a decent enough statue and all (pretty cheap materials unfortunately), but should have been $150-$200. They could/should have included something else - light a stand-alone lantern display piece (like the black marker Dead Space LRG CE).

It's really odd/dumb that they want you to use the box for display purposes. As they built a light inside the box, that can be turned on with a remote. I dunno, maybe If I had proper shelves and room, I'd use the box ...

Also, someone sell me their Best Buy steelbook!

Couple hours in, digging it! Changing from quality to performance cleaned up most of the stuttering.

Second boss (scourge lady something or another)... Was she supposed to do basically nothing? That may be one of the worst/easiest bosses in a soulslike.