Preseason is over. Fantasy football drafts have started. Cut day is tomorrow. The NFL continuing down the pay-per-view path. Figured I'd open another thread. Who are your fantasy must own or sleepers?
Don't know about must own, but I got first round pick in my FFL but couldn't join until a few minutes in. Auto-draft got me Justin Jefferson Jefferson (yay) and Jonathan Taylor (boo, but maybe not? we'll see after tomorrow.)
This is the first draft I'm doing without knowing what position I'll be drafting until right before the draft. Pretty excited for that. I'm not sure who to draft if it ends up top 3 or so. Tempted to take Kelce in the middle of the first. All my mocks are running wr's before rb's. I think it will be top 4-5 rb's, top 3-4 wr's and Kelce in mine. Should be fun!
Not specifically NFL related, but anyone watch the show "Ballers" with the Rock? I just started it up last week. It's a lot of fun so far - kind of like the show Entourage except for pro football. I am about half-way through the first season. Check it out if you like sports, it's a fun dramatized look at a lot of off the field stuff players deal with.
It's going to look better than it is due to being an 8 team league, but here's my first team (No ppr):
QB Herbert Wr Diggs Rb Mixon Te Kelce Wr/Te D Adams Wr/Rb Mattison K Mia D Phi Bench B-Rob J Taylor D Cook A Cooper M Evans Tua
If Taylor can come back to 90% of what he was after week 4 this team is going to make a run. If he Leveon's should still be competitive. Cook, Evans and Tua are my drop candidates, and possibly B-Rob depending on what Bienemy does. I badly want to pick up Justyn Ross, and maybe even Rashee Rice of the Chiefs. By years end I think one of them will be KC's wr1 (besides Kelce). I don't trust their staff enough to get them enough reps early in the year to justify a spot though.
Lions at Chiefs in about 3 hours on NBC. Chris Jones still absent. Kelce a legitimate game time decision. Take a shot for every dropped pass by a KC receiver.
Yahoo fantasy says he's out in an update, but they still have him listed as questionable. Need him switched to out so I can put him on IR and pick up another TE.
Tempted to pick up LaPorta, but KC's LB core is legit. If he were to go off, would be good trade bait.
Edit: They initially put him NA (like he got benched not for injury) making him ineligible for IR. Thankfully it got corrected. Rolling with the unknown in LaPorta.
> I was very happy with the Niner's performance. The Steeler's didn't really put up
> much of a fight. I expected more out of them.
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9rs looked great. Kenny Pickett not so much. Rooting for Purdy. Wished the Chiefs took Pickens over Moore. He looks great with a crapty below average qb.
I really hate DB's always trying to lower the boom rather than make sound tackles. That was a cheap shot on Chubb already going to the ground imo. Put your helmet offset to the midsection, drive the shoulder through the midsection, corral the ball carrier's legs and drive through.
Dolphins...I don't really know what to say. They had the #1 offense but even blew that out of the water. Yikes. Tua is pretty good when not being concussed every game.
Yeah, they will go as Tua goes. What's crazy is they are rumored to be one of the ones trying to trade for Jonathan Taylor. Don't think they really need to.
Something needs to happen to Taylor. He's just taking up space on my bench right now. At least the rest of my team is doing pretty well. I'm going up against a monster of an opponent next week though, where none of his players on or off the bench scored in the single digits this week. Do I trust Alvin Kamara to boom on his first week back against TB?
I own a few shares of Jonathan Taylor in Dynasty. Not doing me any good on the bench. Hopefully the situation works out in Indy but I'm not sure cause Irsay seems like a dick. I agree Miami would be awesome but I can't see it.
> I own a few shares of Jonathan Taylor in Dynasty. Not doing me any good on the bench.
> Hopefully the situation works out in Indy but I'm not sure cause Irsay seems like
> a dick. I agree Miami would be awesome but I can't see it.
Yeah, why mess with a good thing in Miami.. they seem to be clicking on all cylinders, why add a problem. I can see Baltimore going after him, or Cleveland, or possibly Panthers.
I watched the Niners crush the Cowboys last night at a bar and grill in Nashville with felllow Niner fans. The two cowboy fans in the bar were friends with one of the Niners fans, so we had a lot of fun giving him crap all night. It was a blast!
image I'm on the right-hand side of the guy in the back with the little Niner Empire sign.
49ers look unreal.. Purdy is so poised in the pocket and they just have so many damn weapons of offense.. And their defense is stifling. Ordered my Purdy jersey last month so I hope it comes in soon.. :)
He is an excellent 'game manager', but that might get perceived as an insult. Near 4 year starter at Iowa State, he knows his crap. That team is loaded, making runs. Rooting for them if KC can't repeat.
Deshaun's guaranteed money is what is so painful. Sure, give the guy a 2nd chance if you can rationalize that and live with yourself. Ok. But handing him $230M no matter what is just another feather in the hat of Browns bad decisions.
On another note, I saw something that the Giants scored their first touchdown at home this season so far lol. And it was the first touchdown in the 1st half this season? In the 7th game? Yikes.
> Deshaun's guaranteed money is what is so painful. Sure, give the guy a 2nd chance
> if you can rationalize that and live with yourself. Ok. But handing him $230M no
> matter what is just another feather in the hat of Browns bad decisions.
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> On another note, I saw something that the Giants scored their first touchdown at
> home this season so far lol. And it was the first touchdown in the 1st half
> this season? In the 7th game? Yikes.
Pretty sure Watson said he didn't want to go to Cleveland before they agreed to terms. I think the contract was the only way they'd get him to waive his no trade clause.
On the radio they said it was the Giants first (offensive?) TD since Sept 21st.
Not much of a Football fan, but I do enjoy seeing Buffalo struggle. I guess part of it was I never really found a team I could cheer for. The closest was Maybe Seattle do to proximity.
>> Not much of a Football fan, but I do enjoy seeing Buffalo struggle...
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> Curious as to why?
Loud mouth Buffalo fans. There was that one guy here years ago, but my dislike of Buffalo sports team's predates that. Went to school with an obnoxious Bill's fan, worked with some nut ball Buffalo Sabres/Bills fans. they just rub me the wrong way. It seems to be a common thing that the vast majority of the Buffalo fans I have come into contact with have all been some of the worst examples of sports fans.
This, a 1000 times this. I've had many friends and colleagues who were fans of bitter rivals in all sports, college and pro, and save for 1 they all kept it friendly. As a former STH, I can say some of the home fans were worse than some of the visiting fans. The much higher percentage was good though, it was just a few bad apples.
Interesting week. Texans flexing. I certainly didn't expect them in playoff contention. Stroud playing very well. Purdy back on track. Dobbs incredibly played well with 10 days on the team. Cleveland owns the Ravens.
Wouldn’t be too upset if they clean this falcons staff out. Almost two wasted years with indecisive draft picks and still no QB stepping up. It’s the inability to go with a plan that’s really frustrating. These are bad decisions.
I feel you Feeb, I feel whole heartedly that this is the worst Pats team the nation has seen in 25+ years. Usually I feel like the Giants are the "what the hell is this team doing" team. This year, it's the Pats...the personnel is wrong, players aren't living up to expectations, finding new and interesting ways to lose. It's the Pats this year.
Terrible in FA Terrible QB options. Mac Jones is making high school level embarrassing decisions, coaching staff embarrassing themselves putting in Zappe in a two minute drill after the starting QB made a debacle of the whole thing. No true WR1 Run game I like and the defense is good, except our two best skill players are out for the season, Judon and rookie Christian Gonzales.
Just a rough, rough season. Pats had it coming.
In other news, Josh Dobbs and the Vikings are rallying and have a lot of momentum, I'm happy for them. Stroud is the first Ohio State QB to hit the ground running in the NFL in a long long time....maybe ever. I hope he keeps it up.
Yeah the pats are in free fall post Brady. That situation is pretty tough because Bill has kinda earned the unlimited time. Still there is a limit to fans’ patience.
Maybe I'm being a boomer but QB play across the league just feels terrible this year. Obviously some guys are still good but it gets rough fast after the top guys.
I think it’s because there is an abundance of young QBs and “sheltered” QBs. Those that came up on bad teams and worked with untrusting staff and limited playbook. Falcons (smith philosophy in general) are a prime example of a system that makes / shelters bad QBs the last few years. They never grow and/ or are not allowed to and it’s awful to watch.
> I think it’s because there is an abundance of young QBs and “sheltered” QBs.
> Those that came up on bad teams and worked with untrusting staff and limited playbook.
> Falcons (smith philosophy in general) are a prime example of a system that makes
> / shelters bad QBs the last few years. They never grow and/ or are not allowed to
> and it’s awful to watch.
^ This.
Last night Chris Collinsworth said that Zach Wilson should be looking at half the field right now. WTF are you talking about? He's been in the league three years. If you can't go through all of your reads and assess the defense at this point, it's done.
QB has gone from the most talented guy to the liability. It’s like something you need to work around in many offenses. Seriously I think the falcons have lost 3-4 just because of a few bad QB plays. Find a competent dude.
Joe Burrow out for the season, and it looks like Mark Andrews as well, so thats two huge blows to two AFC contenders. Bills and Chargers are in the toilet, Jags/Trevor Lawrence are pretenders, so it looks like its up to the Chiefs and Dolphins to represent the AFC as true contenders for the championship.
Not NFL, but Iowa State had an interesting game against ranked K-State last night. They scored 6 offensive TD's despite only having 2 plays in K-State territory. K-State had 32 first downs on 102 offensive plays. Iowa State only had 10 first downs on 35 plays (K-State nearly had as many first downs as ISU had offensive snaps). They both had nearly 500 yards of offense. Cyclones averaged 13.9 yards per play. Aside from one 33 yard pass, their next shortest score was 60 yards. Their RB had scores of 60, 71 and 77. Their wr had scores from 77 and 82. Insane.
> WOW, Broncos are benching Wilson. Russ couldn't even last a year under Payton?
I just saw that. Looks like a $40-50M cap hit next year if they release him as reported. Are they going to try to trade him, and if no suiters they take the cap offset? Who signs him if free? He likely wants to start still. A handful of spots open on the cheap with Denver paying his salary. Screams of Belichick's last stand in NE. Titans, Bears, Vikings, Giants, Raiders as other options. If none of those back-up to Watson in Cle or Purdy in SF if the price is right.
My god did Detroit get hosed at the end. I want to know who got the flag thrown, cause it was well after the play. If Decker didn't report there should have been two other flags thrown before he caught it (illegal formation and illegal man down field). Can't wait to see Jomboy's break down.
This one was by far the shadiest. The flag was SOOOO LATE and out of place. The ref fudgeed up by not getting clarification on the UNTIMED down after having two linemen requesting to be eligible. This one needs investigated and a response from the NFL. There is 0 chance the refs didn't fudge up.
No surprise they are blaming the player while (reportedly) quietly demoting the ref from the play-offs. Complete bullcrap. Someone who lost a decent amount of cash who is loaded should sue the NFL just to get the audio and any conversations behind closed doors exposed.
I believe the ref just fudgeed up, but that should've been the response. This was not on the player, this was on the refs. They missed 2 penalties and failed to call a third until presumably Dallas players protested well after the play. They thought he was eligible by not throwing any of those 3 penalties. Not a Dallas hater nor a Detroit fan, have no real rooting interest in the NFC aside from a light hearted 'I'll root for them' (9rs this year). Bad look for the NFL, and is the first time that seriously makes me wonder why be a fan?
Time after time the league covers the crappy refs by putting out a worthless yeah they got it wrong statement, our like this ref squad demotion, while not doing much of anything to improve officiating. As much money as the league makes why not make ref jobs full time and train the hell out of them? Or add a ref or two to each ref team. Oh I know why, because the fans will dog and complain but will still pay rediculous amounts of money for all things NFL.
> Time after time the league covers the crappy refs by putting out a worthless yeah
> they got it wrong statement...
What really irks me this time is there was 0 chance the ref didn't get it wrong, yet they put 0 blame on the ref. Literally the ref fudgeed up multiple times on a single play any which way you slice it that likely determined a game with major play-off implications, and publicly the league blamed the players. Hot garbage.
> Excited to see if the Steelers can make the playoffs today.
Would be pretty funny as I think the only way they can is if Buffalo falls out. Tons of scenarios for like 10 teams, and shockingly the Falcons are technically alive.
Wow. Shouldn't be a big shock the way Jacksonville has played, but with the division on the line with a team with nothing to play for. I didn't think this had a high percent chance. I guess money does talk, or pride.
Jags went from 8-3 and in the hunt for #1 seed in AFC to home for the playoffs. Trevor Lawrence is not nearly the can't miss, generational talent at QB that he was supposed to be. He's got decent weapons, half ass O-line, and he's got 69 total TDs to 60 total turnovers.
Falcons fire smith about 10 weeks late. He seemingly had no concrete plans as evidenced by the QB waffling and indecisive play calling. He did the same with mariota. For a guy who was cocksure Matt Ryan was the problem its completely perplexing that he though any of his QBs were the answer. Bon voyage.
So we now know the result of the botched Lions/Cowboy ineligible call. Cowboys take the 2nd seed, Lions the 3rd. 49ers were able to rest yesterday and ultimately lose vs the Rams, where as a Lions win would have meant the 49ers would have been playing for the 1 seed yesterday...who knows what transpires if that's the case, maybe they win handily, maybe a star player gets banged up. *shrug*
Jaguars epic collapse ultimately allows the Steelers to sneak in.
Chiefs and Eagles playing less than ideal heading into the playoffs.
If I could have it my way, I'd pick the Texans or Browns to rep the AFC; I'm more forgiving with the NFC, so anyone but the Cowboys, Eagles, or Packers.
Ultimately I'm thinking it will be the Ravens (ugh) from the AFC, and hoping for the Lions in the NFC. 49ers or Bucs (no chance, but my son roots for them) would be fine too.
I've been very outspoken on that call, but I rewatched it with audio and my stance has softened a bit. Don't get me wrong, the ref messed up multiple times which ended up escalating things to where they got, and the NFL poured fuel on the fire by publicly (seemingly) absolving the ref, but the Lions were just as guilty for the mix-up. They were trying to fool the 'boys by having 2 line-men report as eligible at the same time (which can't be done). The ref clearly stated 70 was eligible, and Decker didn't do much of anything to get the ref's attention to correct it nor did 70. Had the flag been thrown for illegal formation or illegal man downfield or illegal touching immediately the Lions wouldn't have celebrated as long, and it wouldn't have been as much of the clown show it was.
As for the play-offs, no one is hotter than the Ravens and (a mostly healthy) Rams. Nobody is unbeatable, and I may be wrong but I think 3 teams in the AFC can beat the Ravens (doesn't mean any will). I still say the 9rs are the favorites in the NFC if they stay healthy. Rarely do two 1 seeds play each other, so expect at least one upset.
Rooting for the Chiefs for obvious reasons, but honestly if I wasn't a lifelong fan I probably wouldn't. Too much exposure and praise, and not enough admission of faults. If not the Chiefs then the 9rs for Purdy (go Cyclones!). The only teams I'd rather not see win it are ones that have won it in the past 15-20 years (Bal, Pit, Sea, TB, Phi, GB) and Dallas... because Dallas fans are insufferable. I actually wouldn't mind the Rams oddly enough because that would be a good story, they were supposed to be terrible, and I like Stafford. Also would pull for Hou, Det, Cle or Buf to finally get one.
Belichik out. Curious to see if he tries to chase 1 more ring to prove it wasn't just Brady. My assumption is yes. Pretty amazing Bill leaving is less of a shock than Pete. Will be interesting to see who goes where. I don't think Pete stays in Seattle unless he's paid well.
Pete Carroll said after it was succeed that he wouldn't be the coach, that he has lots of energy and he "competed pretty hard" to remain the coach, also said it was his intention to return.
Now this is nuts.... PFT is reporting that the Patriots have a contract in place with Jerod Mayo to be the next successor to Belichick. That's interesting for sure, what's crazy is that the contract was put in place before the session started. So now, the Patriots may not follow through with Mayo, going with Vrabel instead.
I'm hoping the Pats bring Mike Vrabel back. However, it looks like Jarod Mayo is the front runner for head coach, I like him too, but I want to see a HC with previous HC experience.
More than another ring, I think Bill is just chasing that all-time win record. He's just 15 wins away, if he can land on a playoff ready team, he can achieve that in his final two years, when he'll ultimately retire.
Yeah, Bill isn't chasing rings now, he has them. And did nothing without Brady in New England.
It's other long-term records that would be the incentive. I didn't know about the 15 wins away, that sure seems like it's worth his time for 2 more years somewhere.
And Vrabel should be welcomed everywhere. I think he did an amazing job with what he had. Tannehill has been barely adequate since Mariotta was out, and the new QB (forget his name, Willis?) is not going to be the guy either. But both QB's have exposed how bad the team build has been.
I want Justin Herbert to get some support. Would love Vrabel or Belichick to come to the Chargers and get them to not lose all their games by 7 points or less.
Dolphins-Chiefs will only be available on Peacock outside of their respective markets. Even Sunday ticket subscribers won't be able to watch it without subscribing to Peacock. I wonder how many fans and sports bar owners know this? I heard it would be exclusively on Peacock all week, but I assumed Sunday ticket would still get the game much like ESPN and Amazon Prime games.
Its going to suck for some fans this weekend but I hope it brings attention to this mess with big games being all over the place behind pay apps/subscriptions instead of over the air. I understand having some in season games like this, but damn, the playoffs too? I missed the college championship because I don't have ESPN and I don't mind, rather keep the money in my pocket then cave to ABC/ESPN.
Jarod Mayo is officially the Patriots' new head coach. I can't be too upset about not going with Vrabel. Mayo has been with the Pats a long time. He definitely appeals to the players and should be defensive-minded enough to keep the Patriots defense rolling.
I have YouTubeTV with Sunday Ticket and I'm certain the Amazon games are still exclusive to Amazon. At least those were mostly notoriously bad TNF matchups. This exclusive playoff game nonsense is obviously worse. At least Peacock is cheap I suppose...
30+ Year Chiefs fan, former season ticket holder. I'm not giving 1 cent to support the NFL moving their product behind multiple pay walls.
back4more wrote:
> I missed the college championship because I don't have ESPN and I don't
> mind, rather keep the money in my pocket then cave to ABC/ESPN.
I'm right there with you. I'll stop following the NFL if they keep going down this path. I've already stopped watching the NHL, MLB and college sports because it became increasingly more difficult and costly to watch my teams.
Another bad NFL PR move: Detroit is excited to host a playoff game since I don't know when. A theater wanted to throw a free watch party at 8 theaters. The NFL caught wind of it and put a stop to it. Another group was holding a jersey swap at a Twin Peaks. They were going to take in Stafford Lions jerseys and give out jerseys for current players, then donate the jerseys they take in to LA homeless shelters. The NFL stopped that too, though I don't know how legally.
Dallas looking like they are giving up partway into the second quarter. If McCarthy can't spark anything, as much as I hate calling for a firing he needs to go. Too many intriguing coach options out there to hang your hat on MM.
I wish both of these teams could lose too, but the Cowboys bias really irks me. So far I've mostly heard the announcers create this excuse narrative for the Cowboys poor play by saying "Dak and CeeDee definitely have something going on between them" instead of the reality that the Packers are just handing them their collective asses.
Also, I can't stand the "YEA...HERE WE GO!!" pre snap Dak either.
Bet Dallas wishes the refs didn’t screw over the lions with the 2 point call lol.
I’m excited for my Lions tonight. Super nervous but this has been my favorite team since I have been alive, only rivaled by 2014. Hoping to win at least one playoff game this year. It’s been way too long.
I was extremely happy to see Dallas not only get beat, but absolutely embarrassed at home. I was kinda hoping that the Niners would get a chance to play Dallas in the NFC championship, but this is almost as satisfying for me. I was glad to see Detroit have some success and knock out the Rams. So far, the playoffs are off to a good start for me!
Good win for the Chiefs. This might have been the first game I've seen Josh Allen lose some poise. Two wide open receivers underneath for 5-10 more yards and he takes two ill-advised shots to the endzone instead.
Thoughts this weekend: It's fun seeing Taylor Swift's TD celebration when the Chiefs score instead of the player's. NOT
Jason Kelce shirtless and pounding beers was fun. He's way cooler than his brother.
Kelce/Mahomes eclipse Gronk/Brady for postseason TDs. Well earned.
Now I'm forced to root for the Ravens in the AFC for a change of scenery, but GO LIONS!
If the Lions win the Super Bowl in the same year Michigan brought home the Natty, that state might implode!
> Pretty crazy to think Bill B could be done as a head coach. Shula and Halas may
> stay 1 & 2.
Maybe he demanded too much power in ATL? If he did so what? Roll the dice and give the man whatever he wants. Its not like ATL has an awesome roster, or amazing history. Instead they go with Morris. I hope he succeeds but seems like a cop out. Then you've got Vrabel still out there. Maybe one or both will get a shot with the Seahawks or Commanders.
>> Pretty crazy to think Bill B could be done as a head coach. Shula and Halas may
>> stay 1 & 2.
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> Maybe he demanded too much power in ATL? If he did so what? Roll the dice and give
> the man whatever he wants. Its not like ATL has an awesome roster, or amazing history.
> Instead they go with Morris. I hope he succeeds but seems like a cop out. Then you've
> got Vrabel still out there. Maybe one or both will get a shot with the Seahawks or
> Commanders.
That's what the rumor was. He wants to be commander in chief, but I'm not sure any owner would go for that today. He hasn't even interviewed with Seattle or Washington.
I don't see him in Seattle. Washington would be a decent fit with their defense, but they just went through an ownership change, will likely want to rebrand and have a say in the direction of the team. Plus I feel this would end up a lot like the Ron Rivera hire. A handful of years of mediocrity and out the door.
Local reporters are saying that Arthur Blank was basically give a choice between Rich McKay or Belichick. Neither side would move on that. The patriot way is bluster without the patriot goat - Brady- it hurt Bill’s stock pretty bad the way they fell off.
> without the patriot goat - Brady- it hurt Bill’s stock pretty bad the way they
> fell off.
No doubt.
Why would any owner give Bill total control when his draft track record isn't great, his record post-GOAT, and he blundered into Brady thanks to 1 scout who reportedly stood on a table during the draft and threatened to quit if they didn't pick him after 5 rounds of passing on him.
Even if the 'Boys fire Mike next season, Jerry won't turn the reigns over to Bill. Bill is going to have to give up his power to chase Halas. I think he retires rather than further tarnish his legacy as a HC. I could be wrong, but I don't see him taking any other role, not even as a figurehead.
It's all speculation and talking heads presuming why it didn't work out. No one from either side has said why it didn't work out and we may never know.
Why wouldn't Bill give up his front office power? I doubt he's looking to build another dynasty from the ground up at 71. This is simply about 15 more wins. Two years with a team that's already built and I think he's off into the sunset. As long as we're speculating, there's mine.
Not having the greatest QB in the history of the league certainly hurts the team; any team. No surprise there. It's also no surprise that Bill is a defensive-minded coach. So I'll say this, 7, 2, 11, 15, are the overall defensive rankings for the Pats in the years post Brady. Despite having the 3rd worst scoring offense and 2nd lowest ToP in the league, the Patriots were able to hang around in most games this season.
Lost to the Bills by 6 Lost to the Chargers 6 Lost to the Giants by 3 Lost to the Colts by 4 Lost to the Commanders by 3 Lost to the Raiders by 4 Lost to the Eagles by 5
Lots of bad football, especially by the offense this season, but to me, this screams get me a QB/WR more than get me a new coach. A more effective QB picks up half of those close losses and maybe the Patriots have a shot at a WC spot.
With injuries, I'd have to say the same (Ravens, Lions). Chiefs don't have their best run stuffer, and just lost their best option as spy. The defense has bailed this team out all year long. I think the offense will have to perform well above expectations against this stout defense to pull this one out. It can happen, but I don't think it will. House money though.
As a Lions fan, I’m bummed but we had a really good season. Just too many late mistakes and bad play calls and niners took advantage. Now we get the same old same old for a Super Bowl. I will probably skip it. Feels like a rerun and not looking forward to seeing Taylor Swift every time Kelsey has a completion.
> As a Lions fan, I’m bummed but we had a really good season. Just too many late
> mistakes and bad play calls and niners took advantage.
> Now we get the same old same old for a Super Bowl. I will probably skip it. Feels
> like a rerun and not looking forward to seeing Taylor Swift every time Kelsey has
> a completion.
I really thought Detroit was gonna pull this out.. As a 49ers fan, I couldn't believe how easily you scored on us in the 1st half. SF has been a notoriously stingy 2nd half defensive team and it showed.. I'm glad KC won, because I think SF has a better chance to beat them than the Ravens... Can't wait!!!
Thoughts on the game: - Why abandon CMC in quarters 2 & 3??? Especially when you're ahead!? Drain the clock, maybe get up by another score. You knew the Chiefs offense wasn't going to be at 0 forever. - Greenlaw and Deebo both go down with non-contact injuries...can't make this up. Man, Kittle went out later in the game as well. Tough stuff - Angry or not, why is Kelce nearly knocking down his coach/a senior because he's mad he was open? More bad look type stuff. - For all the gripes about the refs this year, warranted or not, I thought this game was well officiated, but I doubt it will be brought up much if at all. - While Usher didn't sound the best, the halftime show wasn't bad and the cameo's outshined Usher. Great set list - The commercials this year weren't extremely funny, but also weren't obnoxiously bad. I'm fine with that.
So without further ado, congratulations on another one Chiefs' fans. First dynasty in 20 years. Call it what it is.
But now, the glory days are over. Chiefs don't pick up any more band wagon fans from here. There will be less kids buying Mahomes' jersey simply because he's the best at the position right now. This is where the Chiefs move from the NFL's sweethearts to the most hated team in the league. Mahomes' antics this year and the constant winning is changing the NFL fan's impression of the Chiefs. Can't wait for the first [insert bogus catch word]-gate to explain away why they keep winning. It will happen.
It's been cathartic seeing the dialog change this year. For years my friends and colleagues have praised Mahomes, Reid, and the Chiefs. The past few months now it's, "the Chiefs are whiners & crybabies". Everyone I knew was rooting against them throughout the playoffs. Heck you can see it in the GTZ poll above.
You'll have less meaningful conversations about your team because people won't be realistic about it. If there is any -gate type stories, no one will believe your side because it's easier to believe a half truth/lie from a journalist looking to make a splash because they already hate your team. Your team/QB will be the biggest whiners. You'll have the worst fans. The refs will cater to you always. The hate train is coming. You may find it easier to say little and take solace in the fact that your team is making everyone around you so mad. The hate will drive the Chiefs to want to win even more. Let your team speak for itself.
I say this all from experience as a fan of the last dynasty we witnessed. Welcome.
The Chiefs were already the most hated team in the NFL, but unlike the Patriots they have a coach and qb who has no reason to be hated on other than they win. Maybe with Mahomes his family. I get the Chiefs fatigue. I'd be tired of them too if I wasn't a long time fan. Also I'm embracing the dark side and everytime they show t-swift it brings me joy inside knowing it pisses off Chiefs haters.
Big time congrats to Steve Spagnuolo. Only team this year to not give up 30 points, and now 5 4 time SB champ at defensive coordinator! Dude gets no love in the national media.
The turning point, to me, was the insanely random Greenlaw injury. He was #1 shadow for Kelce and kept him in check until he got hurt. At the point of injury, Kelce had 1 catch for 1 yard. The second he got hurt, you can tell they exploited the injury and back up linebacker who had to cover him. He went from 1 rec/1yd in first half to 9/93 overall. If Greenlaw plays, the 49ers win.
I also didn't like the 3rd and 4 call for SF in OT when they were on I think like the 12. They had the ball for over 7+ minutes at that point, and you can see the D-line was gassed. They should have ran it to the left behind Trent/Kyle/Kittle blocking down field.
As a SF fan, they should be back. They are returning almost everyone from this year (except Young, who they might resign, and who knows about the Greenlaw injury). As of right now, they are the favorite for Super Bowl 59.
Non-game comments: 1) The ads were overall, pretty bad.. My top 5 (no particular order): The Dunkin commercial with J-Lo/Affleck, the Pickleball Ameritrade commercial, the Christopher Walken car commercial, the CeraVe commercial and Brady BetMGM commercial. Honorable Mention was the part in the Uber Eats forgetting commerical where Jelly Roll couldn't get the tattoos off his face. 2) WTF was up with that foot washing ad?? Was really hoping it was like a beer commercial lol 3) The Robert Kennedy commercial was absolute cringe. 4) Half-time show was boring. I like Usher, but half of his songs are slow jam sexy songs.. The ending was the only good part (Shoutout to all the funny Family Guy/Dodgeball references to the show on Twitter) 5) Deadpool trailer got me hyped for July. I have no idea what's going on and I love it. Is Twisters a sequel??? Can't wait for A Quiet Place Day One either..
Opposing team's Twitter base not liking each call that goes against them? or a call they think they should get? What else is new?
All-in-all they didn't make or break the game say in the way they did against the Lions when they played Dallas. The refs aren't going to catch everything and could call holding on many a play. I'd hate to have their job.
I enjoy games decided by what goes wrong more so than what goes right. I especially love / hate when the coaches or game plans strongly affect the result. Dudes like Reid have that big game mind- but he went through his trials to get here. Shanahan is unfortunately the loser of two overtime / momentum shift loses.
> ...As of right now, they are the favorite for Super Bowl 59....
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As obnoxious as this may come off, I love this more than anything. The first bulletin board material for the 2024-25 Chiefs. Not even 24 hours after winning the SB, the champs can keep playing that underdog role.
Will be interesting to see what the offseason brings. The Chief's pretty much can't sign Jones and Sneed. Sneed, despite being snubbed all-pro, arguably had the best season of any corner. Only allowed 2 50+ yard games and 0 TD's during the season while largely shadowing Jefferson, Hill, Diggs, Adams (x2), Chase, Moore, Allen (x2), Brown, St Brown, and Ridley. Chief's secondary was scary good this year.
The draft will be fun. Many QB's, 2 darn near locks at perennial pro bowlers in Harrison and Alt. Looks to be pretty deep.
Chief's signed "punt god" Matt Araiza after he apparently proved his innocence. Great signing! Townsend wants to be the highest paid punter. This guy averaged almost 52 yards per punt in college, former Ray Guy award winner, and hit an 82 yard punt in preseason for the Bills before getting cut due to the accusations. I have a feeling this was Toub all the way.
Man, the Broncos cutting Wilson... what a disaster. $80M+ In dead money over the next 2 seasons. That's roughly 20% of their cap for a player that will never play for them again. They gave up 2 starters, 2 first round picks and 2 second round picks to get him. Then they gave up another first and second to hire the coach that cut Wilson. I don't normally call for peoples jobs, but how nobody got fired over this is beyond me. Imagine giving up 3 firsts and 3 seconds in 3 years. Insanity.
Russ at least should come cheap since the Broncos are going to pay him $35-40M next season. He really has no reason not to play for the vet min, and he darn sure better be motivated if he wants to stay a starter.
If I was a QB needy team I'd kick the tires on Russ, then draft a QB like Spencer Rattler in the 2nd or 3rd, and finally take the money you saved by not paying big QB money to sign 2-3 free agents.
Russ a Steeler and Kirk a Falcon. Free agents flying fast. Chiefs resigned Jones to a fat contract through wizardry only accounting for $7M against the cap this year. Really interested to hear Cousins contract. He's made so much money already.
Pollard to Titans Swift is a Bear Raiders spend a boat load on Wilkins DT from the Dolphins. Saquan likely headed to the Eagles. Sounds like King Henry is going to Dallas, ugh. More talk of 'this is their year', right?
> |>> I’m fine with cousins but 35 years and that money are kinda ??
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>> What did he get? They need to shore up the O-line and get another weapon.
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> I saw 4 and 180
Wow! Looks like another great deal for Kirk! He's a solid qb, so not terrible for Atlanta. Better than the Giants paying that kind of money to Daniel Jones. I've said Cousins is a more aggressive thus more mistake prone Alex Smith. He can win that division, but they need to take a massive step forward as a team to contend for the SB.
> Henry is great...in December. Otherwise the O-line really needs to open holes for
> him because of his size. Do the Ravens have that skillset?
Henry was 2nd, 2nd, 9th, 1st, 1st in rushing yards in the past five years. The Titans' o-line in 2023 was one of the worst. It's been bad for a few years at least.
Ravens on the otherhand had a top 5-10 o-line. I think he'll do just fine there. Even so, his stats probably take a hit with all the Lamar scrambles and the fact that he's now "past his prime" as far as the NFL is concerned.
I've mostly been concerned about what would happen this off-season to support Justin Herbert. He's clearly the guy to build a team around but it seems the Chargers are basically going for a full reboot of the offense. Consistency is not something he's had much of and a new coach, approach, removal of key play makers...doesn't look great on paper. I don't expect much in 2024 but 2025 is likely going to be pretty good.
They were/are in salary cap hell. They had to do something drastic to get under the cap. Harbaugh is likely going to try to establish a defense based team with a more run heavy offense.
Oof, another offseason. Rashee Rice racing on highways, well bumper cars anyways. His Covette and rented Lamborghini SUV (why is this a thing?) damaged. Leaves both to get the heck out of dodge with his homies while allegedly hiding firearms. Good things to come.
Diggs traded to the Texans for a costly amount... for the Bills. They are eating $31M of his salary and giving up 2 picks to get rid of him and receiving a 2025 2nd. Diggs the next AB?
5 Qb's going in the top 15 of the draft?
XFL Influencing the NFL with the new kickoff rule. Way to go Vince!
New extension of sales tax voted down by Jackson County. Chief's brass have stated they aren't afraid to move. It was a mess of a "plan" anyways with being tied to moving the Royals. Kudos for voting it down. We'll see what happens.
Looking forward to the draft.
QB Salaries are destroying FA and trade values. One of the best corners last year going for a 3rd in next year's draft and peanuts. I wonder at what point does a team trade off a top qb for a cheap rookie to grow their team?
Yep, I have a few relatives coming into town, and some friends coming over. Pizza, dips, an assortment of beverages, as is tradition. Patriots picking at 3 I was hoping Jayden Daniels would fall to us. Not interested in Drake Maye....maybe Nix. If I had it my way, I'd have said grab a QB in FA like Cousins, heck, even Fields, and draft Marvin Harrison Jr....but that's why I'm behind a computer screen and not in the draft room.
> If I had it my way, I'd have said... draft Marvin Harrison Jr....but that's why I'm behind a computer screen and not
> in the draft room.
I actually thought that for the Pats too, then take Spencer Rattler in the second or third. They could sign Ryan Tanehill for Spencer to sit behind for a year to learn so he doesn't get exposed right away and build up the team around him.
I think there's a decent chance 6 qb's go in the first. I'm really looking forward to this year's draft despite KC drafting last, a problem I'll take every year lol. I think Veach trades up again to around 20 to get one of his "first round graded talents". I'd like them to trade back and get more picks though.
Definitely, as a Lions fan and multiple fantasy dynasty leagues haha. I'm cool with whatever the Lions do this year. They had an amazing draft last season, got some solid FAs for holes we had, and secured St Brown and Sewell for a long time, so I am pretty happy. We need some defensive pieces, so we will see. I wouldn't mind another decent WR as well.
> Definitely, as a Lions fan and multiple fantasy dynasty leagues haha. I'm cool with
> whatever the Lions do this year. They had an amazing draft last season, got some
> solid FAs for holes we had, and secured St Brown and Sewell for a long time, so I
> am pretty happy. We need some defensive pieces, so we will see. I wouldn't mind another
> decent WR as well.
For months me, my wife, and a couple...couple friends (only one of us is a true Lions fan, but we all pull for them) were seriously considering going to the NFL draft in person, but not a lot of details of the actual event were available at the time. We live just over an hour and a half away from Detroit. As time went on and people tried to secure the time off for work, the prices of course skyrocketed, and getting a hotel or BnB nearby was less and less likely. Those plans just fell through last month. Now that all of the details are out, it sounds like it would have a blast. We regret not solidifying the trip sooner.
> |>> Draft starts tonight? Anyone interested in it?
>> Definitely, as a Lions fan and multiple fantasy dynasty leagues haha. I'm cool
> with
>> whatever the Lions do this year. They had an amazing draft last season, got some
>> solid FAs for holes we had, and secured St Brown and Sewell for a long time, so
> I
>> am pretty happy. We need some defensive pieces, so we will see. I wouldn't mind
> another
>> decent WR as well.
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> For months me, my wife, and a couple...couple friends (only one of us is a true Lions
> fan, but we all pull for them) were seriously considering going to the NFL draft
> in person, but not a lot of details of the actual event were available at the time.
> We live just over an hour and a half away from Detroit. As time went on and people
> tried to secure the time off for work, the prices of course skyrocketed, and getting
> a hotel or BnB nearby was less and less likely. Those plans just fell through last
> month. Now that all of the details are out, it sounds like it would have a blast.
> We regret not solidifying the trip sooner.
Ah that's a bummer man! I moved from MI a long time ago, but would have loved to make it over there for it. My cousin has a wedding up in Traverse City this weekend, so would have been the PERFECT EXCUSE if I could have lol.
49rs, 
Chiefs