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@MrBean cool pic of stuff. What's that link near the ganondorf statue? Looks bobblehead ish. Cute.

I do not remember dying so much in combat. Quite a few one smack down especially if I am missing a part of a heart. Enemies with a fused weapon have way more power than I do with a fused weapon. The Skeletal arm 20 is the most powerful I have come across and it only last a few whacks. Not to mention lightening, Everything off most of the time as it doesn't seem to not rain.

I loved BOTW and am Happy to have more of it, I am not sure about the building aspect. But I will trust Nintey and the process. One puzzle I am sure I didnt complete the way they wanted, after trying many complex ways that should work but Nintendo wont let, I said F it and made a super duper long walkway screw dem wheels and such. LOL

It's easy to cheese a lot of shrines using any movable platform, ultrahand and recall. Instant moving platforms and elevators.

One of the shrines had rails with a ball that had to go down the rails to the next area. I tried building some sort of sled to fuse the ball to, but it kept falling so I...

It certainly was NOT what the developers had in mind, but I was so giddy that it worked.

bonham2 wrote:


There's another shrine where this is what they want you to do.

Yeah, I did that one the same way, by making a makeshift hook. My favorite shrines to cheese are the ones where you don't even need to use the stuff in the dungeon. There's one where you're supposed to knock a ball into a couple of targets (one for the treasure), but you can just fire bomb arrows at them instead. I struggled with one where I couldn't figure out how to get a minecart to the blessing. Then I noticed I had a rocket shield and just used that to propel myself into the air, and then paraglided to the exit.

Can we just take a second to appreciate how awesome it is that you just noticed you had a ROCKET SHIELD? How awesome is that? A freakin rocket shield. I thought a fortified pumpkin would just make my shield stronger, so I fused one. It made a pumpkin shield. A shield with a pumpkin attached to it. No matter how stupid the contraption, the game allows it. It's amazing what we can do in this game.

Rocket Shield? The Dragon Face one? I use that as a weapon, you want a piece of Link come get some.

Groo wrote:

If you mean the one that spews out fire, that's a different shield.

Are you really stuck buying all the different climate clothes other than cold (warming effect) pants? That is thousands of rupees. I only have 800 after 20+ hours of play. Is there anything that is safe to sell? Like expensive items that aren't used for anything else?

Just gave this game to my daughter as a high school graduation gift (she graduates tomorrow). Just watching her play right now. Seems pretty cool so far.

KCPenguins wrote:


So obviously not for everyone, but came across a simple duping glitch while searching for the best ways to get rupees in TotK. This will undoubtedly get patched out, but it takes maybe 15 seconds to duplicate anything that can be attached to an arrow, including diamonds. Do not click If you don't want the temptation.

Amiibo time! I still dont have the paraglider! Hope I didnt fall off the islands to quickly LOL. I was in the Balloon and she said dont worry about her she can handle it just for me to paraglide down. I was stuck so I broke the balloon apart her eyes after the fall

Plus I found a tower and climbed it I see for no reason. I really need to pay more attention when people speak to me.

I'm enjoying the game so far. Started this week. Played for around 2 hours. I like those

Took me a while to figure out how to use them. After trying various combinations of

, with no success, I finally found a way to use them effectively. And I like how you can steer them. Very cool.

Its 1AM but I got that glider, LOL. I rode all around there, sometimes running for my life. I blame that I was playing in handheld and couldn't quite see everything. Last playtime was on the TV. I didnt play BOTW Handheld much but if it was like TOTK then the camera is set up well for it. Wish it would zoom out some on TV.

nonamesleft wrote:

Yeah, that was from Windwaker. I also have a Mario, Samus, and Starfox bobblehead from that era too.

I got it ages ago when I had a buddy that was a manager at GameStop. I don't remember how/why they got them, but he gave me one for helping him with some eBay stuff back in the day.

-edit: ooofff, man, didn't realize till looking at the pic, poor dude has taken some abuse and dust over the years!

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10 million sold in first 3 days:

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1658819...

MrBean wrote:

Buddy The Elf in your Zelda collection?

KCPenguins wrote:

My son found this glitch online last night and was so excited about it. I'm probably going to dupe some diamonds before it gets patched. This game is incredibly stingy with money, it's ridiculous. I won't be able to afford those climate clothes until I'm so far through the game that it really doesn't help me anymore anyway.

There are mini-games to play where you can make money. There is one by Rito Village where you have to catch thrown boulders and place them on a platform. You get 100 rupees every time you get X number of points. I gained a few hundred rupees. Admittedly, it is not easy and takes a bit of time to really make money. In BOTW, my main source of income was selling meat sticks (cook 5 gourmet meats and get something like 400-500 rupees, although again that takes time and arrows to collect the meat. I basically kill every animal I come across, especially the bigger animals. My other biggest source of income was selling gems and luminous stones. They are worth 20 each and very easy to find in the depths. I don't know if they are worth saving for any reason...obviously we should not be selling gems anymore.

On one hand, the resources are WAY more plentiful than they were in BOTW. On the other hand, they are much more practical and usable, so it's not as easy to sell them off.

Scott wrote:


I duped 20 diamonds to buy the snow and lava armor sets, and the heat (voe) head band. Probably around 65% success rate once I figured it out.

@bonham2 Are you saying we should keep them to fuse to weapons or is there another use for gems that I'm missing? Either way, I haven't come across anything that requires one to use a gem just yet, so I still sell them off. I'm sure I'll need to fuse them or something eventually, but I've barely fused anything myself so far. I just use the weapons I find along the way or take off enemies. There are some nice ones to be found underground.

I don't know if it bothers anyone else but I sorta can't stand looking at Link with an obnoxiously big weapon on his back. I obviously use them if I have them and it doesn't ACTUALLY take anything away from the game, but I do kinda miss just having the classic "sword and shield" look as I play through a Zelda game.

theJaw wrote:

While I'm only a few hours in, this drove me nuts when fusing with a stone ... looks absolutely stupid.

MrBean wrote:
He's standing on a game cube. Sweet. :)

theJaw wrote:

I would like to know this as well.


Agreed. Some of the fusions look really cool, but a lot of them look completely ridiculous. What's worse though is when you have something fused to your shield. A giant rock stuck to Link's back looks so bad.

My daughter was shocked to find that she still has all of her old horses from her original Zelda BotW game!

KCPenguins wrote:

I've been playing around with it a bit. I haven't played a ton, so unfortunately, I don't have any diamonds yet, so I'm duping sapphires. Hopefully I can find a diamond to dupe before they patch this. I'd say I'm getting about a 65% success rate on it too.

theJaw wrote:

As far as I know, it's just for fusing. The sapphires and rubies are the best fuses. They'll make anything an elemental weapon. I think diamonds make things really strong, but I haven't found any diamonds yet.

Scott wrote:


I had 2 diamonds before duping, but I only remember getting 1. I rapid fire pick up all gems. I took down a talus fortress, might be where I got it.

How do I rotate things so that they stand straight up? After clicking R, rotation only goes in 4 directions, not a 360. So unless I pick something up perfectly, it's slanted. My raft wouldn't raft very well, barely moved. I had to make a new one. (My first raft was great, but after I placed it in the water it sailed off too quickly for me to jump on. I watched it float away 😅😭)

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nonamesleft wrote:

You just need to get used to using a combination of movement holding R, and not holding R.

It took me a little bit to get used to as well. It didn't really click with me until a couple of hours outside of that initial Sky Island.

@nonamesleft if you were to detach that sail from the log by toggling the right stick while grabbing it with Ultrahand, you’d then hold R, and press left twice then down, and it’d be upright. Then you’d stop holding R and get it to the center of the raft.

It’s hard to explain in words, you just have to sorta feel it out. Takes a bit of getting used to.

Rotate the part using the d-pad so an up or down rotation gets you where you need to be. As someone who uses CAD (computer aided modeling) it's second nature. Good on Nintendo for introducing this to gamers. The ultra hand is a very basic modeling program. Microsoft has 3d builder for free which is a more advanced version of this (yet still very basic).

citizen_zane wrote:

Same. I used an Amiibo to summon Epona, and when I brought it to the stable, the stablemaster said something like "Oh, I see you've stabled with me before." And I was like dog WE JUST MET

Renaissance2K wrote:


I haven't used an Amiibo, and I have Epona stabled by default. Maybe that's what they're referring to?

KCPenguins wrote:
Simpler said than done. Because if I picked up an item that is already in a slanted position, I couldn't seem to get it out of being slanted. But between what you said and what @theJaw said I figured it out. I rotated something so that the slanted part is directly facing link, then rotated it forward. That uprighted it.

Thanks.

Link hums snippets of tunes from the series as food is cooking :)

I listened several times to be sure. Definitely heard a piece from Lost Woods and a piece of from I think Ocarina of Time.

I'm enjoying the game so far. This is really tricky. I have other things to do. Can't just be spending 2 hours now playing this. Well, I could. But I shouldn't. But I probably will... 😅

I duped 100 diamonds. Should be good on money for a while.

https://dbrand.com/shop/special-edition/clone-of-t...

TotK skin for Switch (and Deck?!)

Thanks for posting that @bill.

Looks pretty good.

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That Steam Deck one is pretty nice, kind of going with the look of the Zelda pro controller.

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"We've got good news: during Clone of the Kingdom’s mass production run, an intern managed to severely botch the green ink pigmentation, producing a deep black. After taking one look at his accidental masterpiece, we immediately gave him a promotion. As a direct result of this mishap, each Clone of the Kingdom order contains an additional color option for the left Joy-Con, free of charge. As for the intern, his new job title is "Hazardous Materials Taste Tester."

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The black one looks better for sure.

https://kotaku.com/zelda-tears-of-the-kingdom-pira...

Nintendo going after TotK pirate.

His response- “should I just play it offline…”

Derp.

Am I the only one using Amiibo? I see all the talk about farming etc, if ya got amiibo dat your farm. The Surface seems larger maybe cause it is easier to get around earlier in the game. So you can roam so much more, BUT add in the Depths and Sky overload! SO far I think the depth was the most fun exploring.

Groo wrote:

I haven't started playing yet (will do so tonight!), but my daughter has and she's been using the Amiibos. We've been going here to find out what items you can get: https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/zelda-tears-of-th...

Turns out you can get special themed fabric for your paraglider and other cool items that are related to the game that a particular Amiibo is from. You have a chance to get items like the White Sword (Skyward Sword), Twilight armor, Sheik's Mask, an Ocarina of Time equipment set, and more!

I used my faux-miibo cards today. I realized I never created cards for some of the Zelda amiibos since they didn’t unlock anything unique in BOTW. So I’ll need to do that tomorrow.

BloodPuppetX wrote:

Okay I know what you meant now, to the Moon Baby!

citizen_zane wrote:

I have a Zelda Amiibo Card set works great, n Zelda Skyward Sword Amiibo one that was on sale a few months ago. I also used my Splatoon card set as non Zelda Amiibo give plenty of stuff too. Twice now been asked for stuff and if I go here I could find it, BUT I just so happen to have that item right now

never heard of that... googles... checks etsy.... feels bad for the rest of the day.

I bought a stack of them when monster hunter rise released. The amibos were OOS and very expensive then.

I ordered a set of cards for myself of eBay. I'm not into collecting figurines but it would nice to have some of the unlocks. The full set of 26 is not much more than 1-2 amiibos.

I also ended up doing the GameStop deal, trading in two games I was able to pick up for $22 off offerup. After my $5 off reward, the total came out to a little over $17, so $39 for a physical copy is not bad.

bill wrote:

I created my own using blank NTAG215 cards I bought a long time ago. I think I bought like 200 in bulk.

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I'm so lazy I didn't even print out art for them. I just keep them in their plastic wrapper and wrote on the plastic wrapper with a Sharpie lol.

Note that I do have an almost complete amiibo collection, less some of the original Japan only Monster Hunter ones that are super expensive now.

In regards to amiibo - Some phones (like my pixel 7) can do NFC burning. I bought 25 blank NFC tags off of amazon and use my phone to burn amiibo. It's super easy and quite cheap.

I spawned in Epona last night using Twilight Princess Link, only to realize that we were on a mountain that required a ladder to get off of. So Epona is still stuck on that snowy cliffside :(

bumsplikity wrote:

Yeah, that's what I did. I just created 4 newer ones I hadn't since I played BotW: Link's Awakening Link, Smash Bros. Young Link, TotK Link, and Zelda & Loftwing Skyward Sword HD

Now I have a card for each. I scanned them all yesterday and got a few unique items, including the Majora's Mask cloth for the paraglider which I'm rocking now. Almost, a lot of the weapons I got are all better that what I had, lol. Also got Sheik's Mask and a couple of the divine beast helms.

I just saw there's an update for TotK. Does anyone know if it fixes the duplication glitch?

It did not. They fixed the Closed Door quest that some people could not complete.

Nice. I heard from another source that it did not fix the glitch, but I wanted to be sure!

Apparently, there's also a weapon duplication glitch:

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Groo wrote:

Nah, I've been scanning my Zelda Amiibo every day I play. The best thing I think I got is the OOT Tunic. Otherwise, it's just a great way to stock up on craftables and food.

I just found the OoT Tunic in the depths lol.

The Rito portion of this game so far rules hard.

Finally got on track with the story. Finished up the Zora storyline last night.

I just did the Fire Temple myself, and upgraded the pad. Apparently, for the latter, you need to get Auto build (and fight Master Kohga) from the depths before Robbie will go to his lab.

SwiftJAB wrote:

I have some amiibo too but to have all those figures out verse having some printed picture cards that stack is much easier.

BloodPuppetX wrote:

I fought him but Robbie hasnt left to gonto his lab checked a few times.

I used Auto build to fix his balloon. Not sure if you have to do something before that. All I did was the quest with Josha, which tells you to follow the statues.

9 Hearts and upgraded armor set. Still getting 1 shot killed by blue enemies with decent weapons. Oh bother...

A few times I've had enemies pinned with constructs only to take damage from them through the construct when I go to deliver the final few blows. I guess I need to make more offensive constructs.

Is there a bit of Elden Ring? I seem to parry more to survive, went through many more shields than BOTW 100%.

https://youtube.com/shorts/N-wyCwhOnOM?feature=sha...

Bean probably shouldn't watch.

a toothpick, how civilized

It last day to trade in 2 games off GameStop's list for at least $50 toward Zelda

Okay I give up. How the heck do gliders work?

Renaissance2K wrote:


You jump off a high place and hit the "X" button to glide. Push the left stick in the direction you want to go. When your stamina is depleted (the green circle) you fall. Don't do that when you're high up, over water or over a cliff face/climbing surface.

Did you not play BotW, or have you gotten it yet?


Edit: or are you talking construct gliders (the bird looking construct)? Those need a means to move or get off the ground. Either on a cart, the tracks scattered around, or rockets/fans on sides to thrust upward to get them airborne.

Just beat Colgera. Dude was all bark, no bite, but such a fun friggin battle. One of my all time favorite Zelda bosses, right up there with the Gyorg Pair from Minish Cap.

@nonamesleft thought of you while reading Nintendo tips, you mentioned not getting on a boat you built quickly enough and it sailed away. (maybe plane I forget) anyway use recall. I have been quick to use ultrahand but forget to use recall in such situations.

also can use recall while on said device unlike ultrahand, didnt mean to make the glider go right use recall set a new coarse

KCPenguins wrote:

also walk to the nose or wings to give your directions BUT a control stick is much easier if one is lying around, I have yet to get one from of the dispenser, try each I see

Groo wrote:
I have a mix of real Amiibo and the cards. While the cards are much easier, I like using my figures. The cards were given to me 5 or so years ago, so I'm just glad to finally be getting use out of them!

KCPenguins wrote:

Haha, that's awesome.

So the duping glitch is not working for me anymore. I don't believe there was a patch/update. I just built my house and unloaded a bunch of weapons, maybe it's tied to only having 2 bows, or maybe it's the area.

And speaking of building houses, this game keeps getting more like Animal Crossing, except for the killing and dying.

Oh ran into some hot garbage. Was taking on a village of black enemies. Took out half of them, and got 1 shot killed by a black moblin. They restart me outside the challenge, reset all the enemies and enemy health, and didn't give me anything back I lost during the fight. That was 30 minutes completely wasted.

Edit: During the fight I did manage to hit a rock that a moblin threw at me in the air a couple body lengths away. The arrow seemed to pierce the rock and both dropped to the ground.

save before engaging!

So how bad is the performance, really? I'm powering through BotW now.... with the help of some glitches to max out health/stamina.

@KCPenguins was it the pirates quest? I got nearly done with that one before getting one shot killed, and then all the enemies were back the next try. I did get all my crap returned to me like usual though. Wasn’t an issue the second time around, knowing what to expect.

@Kommie it can honestly get pretty rough, especially when using the Ultrahand ability, but it’s nowhere near game breaking. Besides a few stutters in those situations, it runs more or less the exact same as BOTW.

Feels pretty much the same as BotW, actually quite a bit sharper imo in general. BotW feels oddly blurry going back to it

theJaw wrote:


No, I think I'm there now. On Eventide? I was doing the 'save our town' mission west of Eventide.

On the flip side, really enjoying the memories this go round. Bringing back Ganondorf was so necessary. A couple of really good clips. Memory from that area (definite spoiler of the memory, don't click If you haven't seen it, tears of the dragon #7).

Groo wrote:
Thanks for the tip. Should be useful. Yeah, it was a boat that sailed away too quickly. I didn't yet have recall at the time. Just got it actually.

Just built my first vehicle with a control stick and a power supply, and yeah, this could be a lot of fun.

Renaissance2K wrote:


I was on the foothills of death mountain. A korok needed a ride, they provided me a board, control stick and 4 self drive wheels. 20 minutes later korok was delivered, and 90% of 2 enemy troup/camps were run over.

Done exploring for the time being, next stop Wind Temple! Hope I don't get wrecked.

Edit: Visited Hestu right before. Super stoked the upgrade cost is unique to item this go round.

Just finished the Tears of the Dragon quest. Great stuff. Above average storytelling for a Zelda game for sure. The ending “twist” (if you can call it that) was badass.

Finished the first "dungeon"... not much different than the divine beasts from BotW aside from the boss fight imo. Boss fight more traditional and easier. I'm not sure if I got the heart container. They abruptly switched to the cut scene with no fanfare. I don't recall if I was at 8 or 9 hearts. Oh bother.

That's weird. I've done 2 temples so far and the heart container drops down after the boss battle. You grab it first, and then approach whoever your companion for the temple was and that triggers the cut scene. Weird that yours jumped to the cut scene immediately.

theJaw wrote:


I remember there was one other Zelda game where I accidentally picked up the other piece rather than the heart container. Had to go back through the dungeon to get the heart container. :(

Really impressed with the death machines created. We are a disturbed society ready for the apocalypse...

The Fire Temple is super, super annoying. Easily my least favorite part of this game so far. Just a really confusing layout with no obvious directions to go, and then some things you need to do to reach certain spots is frustrating as hell. I fell back to the first floor like 5 times to the point that I just put the Switch down and called it a night. That and I've been doing the whole thing with 3 hearts because of the Gloom on the way to the Temple. That's another part of the game I find needlessly frustrating - Gloom. It seems like a cop out to make an area harder than it should be as opposed to just throwing in some more enemies or obstacles.

Still loving the game overall but I'll be happy once I finish the Fire Temple for sure, and hopefully never need to revisit it.

You can make gloom resistance potions (you can sell poes for an ingredient that makes the potion) and some recipes heal gloom (use sundelions). Try Fried Wild Greens. I think I was given that recipe by an NPC as part of a quest early on. It's real simple. Mix sundelions with Hyrule Herbs (I think off the top of my head).

Or, to start the temple, just unlock the fast travel at the beginning and then travel to a light area on the surface or at one of the beacons in the depths to heal gloom damage. Then you can fast travel back to the temple.

I hate to say it, but I'm already enjoying this game a little less. Don't get me wrong, I'm still enjoying it a lot, but I feel like the "honeymoon phase" is over already, whereas with Breath of the Wild, I was at least 100 hours in before the magic started to wear off for me. I feel like if I was more into the building aspect, the game would be staying fresh for me longer. I enjoy it for puzzle solving, like in shrines, or holding those Hudson signs up, or when you have to build something to get the green gem thing to it's destination to unlock a shrine. But I still have no interest in it outside of those sorts of things. My son loves it though, and I enjoy seeing all of the things the builds and just watching as he gets better and better at it.

But....to be fair, I've mostly just been exploring the overworld the last several times I've played, with the occasional sky island. I think it's time to speed up my exploration a bit and get to the first dungeon, and also start exploring the depths. There's still a lot of life left in this game for me. I just can't move through the overworld as slowly as I did in Breath of the Wild.

@Scott Yah I mean after that first release weekend, I was sort of feeling the same way. Like "okay the new stuff is neat but I played BOTW so much that this just seems like an extension". But once I really started delving into the story and the temples, it hooked me right back. The "Impa and the Geoglyphs" quest 100% rejuvenated my drive to play the game, it adds some major intrigue to the story and that was something sorely missing in BOTW. I'm actually looking forward to how the story is gonna pan out (knowing full well it'll likely just end the same way any Zelda game ends).

@bonham2 Thanks for the gloom prevention techniques. I know I had made something that healed the broken hearts in the past but have no idea what I used to make it. And yah, I figured I could just fast travel back and forth, I was just in the groove last night and didn't feel like having to leave the temple to go craft anything. Little bit of laziness admittedly but a part of me does miss just finding hearts after killing enemies or smashing pots like the OG Zelda games. I feel like it just flows much smoother that way, as opposed to needing to leave what you're doing to heal up depending on the situation. But whatev, that's just not how this game works.

Honestly- after reading this discussion since launch I have no desire to play this. I played about 1 hr with my daughter and she’s enjoying it- but it sounds like tedium that I wouldn’t enjoy. I’m kidding myself that I won’t eventually slog through it- it’s “Zelda” (another topic for another day…) and I’ve never left one on the shelf.

@theJaw Yeah, I'm excited to get to some dungeons and more of the main quests!

@Feeb Did you play BotW, and if so, how much?

@Feeb I feel like folks could always just play it for the story like any other Zelda game. If you stick to just the Main Quests, it’d probably be fine if you’re a Zelda fan. I mean, it’d still be a lot of exploring and whatnot, but I feel like you could ignore the side stuff for the most part.

@Scott , that's the way I feel about the depths. It feels big for the sake of being big, and the darkness gets old. It's a whole bunch of nothing. The overworld, on the other hand, is a massive improvement over BOTW. There are tons of things to do. The caves and wells are so much fun to explore. I'm not really into the building aspect, but I have built a few simple vehicles to help with quicker exploration. I still haven't even unlocked half the map yet. I still have to go to Haetano and the entire south portion of the map. I'm hoping there are more things to do in the depths and more of a reason to explore and unlock the map areas. I can't imagine getting bored of this game for a very long time. In fact, it is SUCH a huge improvement over BOTW, I don't know if I'll ever want to go back to it.

@theJaw , I agree with the healing meals, etc. I miss hearts. I feel like I can just abuse the healing in this. On the other hand, the enemies hit for so much damage in this game. I think I have 9 hearts, and I still get one hit deaths all the time. It's really annoying. I am flying through healing potions/meals, and cooking is a grind. Why can't I just choose a recipe to cook and tell the game to cook it 5 times instead of me having to select the ingredients over and over again? That was one of my big complains for BOTW, and I'm disappointed that they didn't fix that.

Played the Wind Temple last night. There was one part that I was racking my brain on for a while and felt so dumb once I figured out the solution. Overall, pretty enjoyable experience so far, but I agree that there are aspects of the game that feel tedious or a bit too long. However, I'm sure people are going to find ways to speed through these sections.

I personally need to train myself better on the controls. I'm constantly pressing the wrong button to change weapons or forgetting that I'm holding my bow when open up the quick item selector and accidentally fuse something to an arrow.

One thing's for sure, there is no shortage of arrows in the Rito>Wind Temple section. Even after all that, I'm sitting on 100+ arrows. They really want you take advantage of fuse.

Scott wrote:

I did. I’m guessing 100 hrs +? I found every shrine etc

New switch days. I think the novelty of the system had a big part in holding my interest. That whole situation was a phenomenon- truly groundbreaking- HD handheld Zelda.

Hot take - The world in TotK is more empty than the world in BotW. It is also less rewarding.

... still only ~4 hours in from day one. Just finally hooked up my Switch to my PC, hoping to finally spend some time playing soon.

KCPenguins wrote:

I dunno about more empty. I could walk for several minutes in BOTW without an NPC or enemy anywhere, that’s nowhere near the case in TOTK. More actually inhabited towns/hubs, several wandering NPCs, stables, the fellas with the signs, enemies everywhere. The depths and sky islands are less-so, but at least there are enemies on both.

And I say that without getting to all the locations/towns yet, and I haven’t even found the Lost Woods yet (assuming they’re in the game of course).

I haven’t felt unrewarded either but I suppose that’s more of a subjective thing. I find items/weapons that I consider useful all the time, and discovering caves and wells and whatnot is super satisfying.

bonham2 wrote:

I haven't even visited the depths a single time yet, I should start doing some of that too. I think just a change of scenery would be good for me. I agree that the ovreworld is a massive improvement, and I love exploring the caves and wells too!

Feeb wrote:

If you enjoyed your time with BotW, I think you would enjoy TotK too. The overworld is quite different, and there's a lot of new stuff to do. However, if you only moderately enjoyed BotW and/or had to force yourself to beat it and find all of the shrines, then yeah, probably hold off on TotK for a while.

If you're looking for a reason to explore the depths, it might be a good idea to scour the sky islands first. That's where you find the maps that show the location of treasure in the depths. Otherwise, just look at the map every time you come to a lightroot. Just look for anything that resembles a structure on the map and go there. All of the auto build stuff is down there, and certain equipment. There are a few surprising encounters that I won't spoil. But yeah, it can get boring down there due to how the scenery never really changes much.

Does TotK have the Hero's Path? I think that's what it was called. It was one of the things they added in the BotW DLC that would show you on the map where you had traveled. That would be extremely helpful in this game, especially with the sky islands. It's hard to remember which I've been to and which I haven't.

Yes, you have to complete a certain side quest to unlock it. It't not too hard though (kind of a main side quest).

Once you get it, does it show where you've already been, or does it start tracking it from that point forward?

Yes, just like with the BOTW DLC.

I've been watching videos and reading comments of people online, and the people arguing that this is a bad game because of performance issues really look stupid right now. I mean, it's a legitimate complaint if you want to call this a 9.5/10 instead of a 10/10, but the game performs pretty well (draw distance, lack of any loading screens, the amount of stuff actually happening on screen, etc.).

I don't know where I'll stand 100+ hours from now, but as of this pount in the game, for me, this is the first Zelda game where I legitimately could put this over OoT on my personal list. It's a freaking masterpiece. I have a few minor gripes, like I do get bored in the depths pretty quickly, but it's certainly not enough to take away from the good stuff. I'll see where I stand when I'm all done, but it's definitely up there on my all-time Zelda list, and that's really saying a lot.

bonham2 wrote:

Performance aside- never an issue for me- how would you compare it to BotW? How much better / different is it?

theJaw wrote:

This is what I'm currently doing with BotW, tbh. First time playing it. The world feels too big for me to explore, and dealing with everyone and everything is a lot. Following the main quests plus some of the side quests. Just completed the second divine beast (started with the Zoras and now the Gorons). I can say it's a great game though.

The build aspect of TotK makes me fear that I'll not enjoy it as much once I get to play it, maybe in 5 or 6 years lol

For those concerned the building aspect will ruin the game for you...

I originally wasn't too big on it either. I kept making jokes paralleling it to Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts. When I first started playing, I avoided crafting as much as possible.

Once I was comfortable with Link's array of abilities, I ended up doing some basic-level stuff. The more I tinkered with it, the more I like it.

I'm not going off creating crazy contraptions, but I am finding simple workarounds that in some cases probably shouldn't work, but do.

That said, you can skate by doing very minimal building. In fact, speaking to Josha early on, and completing the missions pertaining to the "A Mystery in the Depths" quest, you can skate by doing even less.

Warped back to the wind temple, my heart container was sitting there. That's a relief.

Feeb wrote:

This is a tough question that I can't fully answer yet since I'm still relatively early on (about 20-25 hours in). I fall in the camp that says BotW was a great game but not a great Zelda game. I missed the atmosphere, music, unique boss fights, puzzles, etc. It was also relatively light on secrets. I miss searching for heart pieces or having them be rewards for side quests. On the other hand, I did like that the combat was some of the deepest and best of any Zelda ever and I appreciated the freedom and emphasis on exploration.

TotK does everything BotW did but better. The combat is challenging with tons of enemy variety, and you can attack in so many unique ways. The temples are a big improvement over BotW's Divine Beasts. So far, I am LOVING the shrines (and they were a slog in BotW). The puzzles are challenging and rewarding. The best part is there are so many ways to solve anything. You can do it the way the devs intended or come up with a completely different way using your imagination. That has actually been the most rewarding part so far for me, coming up a with ridiculous ways to solve challenges and get to the end of the shrines. The other big improvement is the overworld. BotW's overworld was notoriously sparse with very little to do and very little reward for exploring. TotK makes up for this in a huge way. There are so many more side quests and things to explore and/or do. My favorite part so far has been the caves (SO MANY CAVES). Some just have supplies and bubbel gems, but others have armor and gear. It's no exaggeration when you hear people talking about getting distracted with a dozen things while trying to go to a destination. There is so much to do and see in the overworld, I am constantly getting distracted. I have dozens of pins/stamps on my map waiting to be explored, and I haven't even unlocked more than half the map yet. People saying this game takes 40-50 hours must only be playing the main story. I like to explore every nook and cranny and find all the supplies and items I can. I will never come close to getting 100% in this game (I can't imagine how long that would take), but I want to discover as much as humanly possible.

All of this is completely ignoring the ultrahand/building mechanic. Outside of the shrines where it is necessary, you really don't have to build at all if you don't want to. I made a few simple transportation devices to make it easier to get places, and I doubt I'll do anything more than that. Oh, and that reminds me, traveling through Hyrule is SO MUCH BETTER. No more spending hours climbing or slipping down wet surfaces. It's all been streamlined and fixed. You can ascend to reach high places, make an elixir to stick to wet surfaces, have auto saved vehicles to move faster or fly, use the rewind ability on rocks to move up to the sky quickly (and then jump off for easy gliding), or even use different fuse abilities to quickly get up in the sky.

It's SO MUCH BETTER THAN BOTW. I honestly don't think I will ever be able to play BotW ever again.

Yeah I have a literal no desire to return to BOTW after playing TOTK. Everything from BOTW is in TOTK, plus way, way more and executed way, way better.

Glide hold 5 items, press Y & B and double said items has made me experiment with building more. I did not like building, getting to my destination, beating said shrine and coming out happy just to be sad someone stole my ride!

Groo wrote:


Must be missing something as this didn't work.

Holy smokes is that easy. Even works with insects and lizards, but you gotta be quick. Save before trying with fling insects. (Works with fairies too, but they fly off quick)

I think Amiibos are on a mercy timer. I've been scanning mine daily for nearly a week now and got diddly squat except for some fabric, and I rolled a half dozen unique armor pieces today.

Including this gem...

I think Amiibos are on a mercy timer. I've been scanning mine daily for nearly a week now and got diddly squat except for some fabric, and I rolled a half dozen unique armor pieces today.

Including this gem...

"The item makes one want to wear it but also not wear it."

LOL

That one and Majora's Mask are two I want for the bonuses but don't really care for the actual Amiibo. Thought about going the card route.

So I'm about 50 hours in... and hooked. I've been ignoring the main quest and venturing off on my own... and after 93 shrines, I just did the quest and received the shrine sensor... I'm doing this all out of order! Really loving the exploration, especially the sky and depths!

SMY36738 wrote:

Yeah, I noticed my friend didn't have the camera function yet which I found odd even though he's played longer than me.

I still haven’t got the camera function either. I assume that’s the “???” in the pause menu.

SMY36738 wrote:

This is what I’d do. Mental issues do not allow me to leave stuff undone or focus the main path.

Groo wrote:

Just found out about this one last night. It's so much faster and easier than the other duplication glitches before it, what a game changer! I don't feel bad using it at all. This is just going to save me from wasting tons of times grinding for resources. I have limited game time, so forget that.

Renaissance2K wrote:

My son got this one the other night, we laughed so hard when we first saw it!

SMY36738 wrote:

It's stuff like this that makes me dislike the non-linear nature of this game. I wish it were more linear so that you would get key/helpful stuff like this at an appropriate point in your progress.

Scott wrote:

I mean the game gives you enough direction to stick to the main story. They literally tell you to head to the Rito village at some point, which if you do through the main path, you also come across Impa. They separate out main quests from side adventures and side quests in the menu.

Sun wrote:


Maybe he misses Navi butting in every 2 minutes... "LISTEN!!!"

Haven't played since release date. Feel so behind!

Anyone have cliff notes on what to focus on early parts of the game? Stuck to main quest line or go explore?

Looks like they fixed the duping glitch. So be aware of that before updating. Never used it myself.

MrBean wrote:

There's no right answer here. It's up to you if you want to just focus on story or explore. Probably a good idea to go shrine hunting to increase your heart capacity. Game is certainly more difficult than BotW.

I've been so busy with work and life that I haven't gotten to play anywhere near as much as I would have liked. I got to the Fire Temple on Monday, didn't play at all on Tuesday, played for about 5 minutes on Wednesday and stopped because I was falling asleep, and then finally got a few hours to play last night. Let me say this, the Fire Temple is AWESOME, and the boss was great. They did exactly what I was hoping for. The atmosphere and music was definitely unique to that area with a great final boss and an open layout that you can tackle in any order using any means necessary. And they added a new ability that you need to complete the temple that can now be used in the main game but it is not required to beat anything else with the game. It's perfect.

I completed the temple mostly using ascend and fusing items to help me get around some of the puzzles that Nintendo set up to be confusing. I did mess around with the cart puzzles, but I started getting frustrated, similarly to the Water Temple in OoT. Instead of getting frustrated with the tedium, I just circumvented the whole thing...very rewarding.

I have completed 2/4 of the main temples so far, so I have 2 avatar helpers unlocked. I am already annoyed with having them around (I can't imagine having all 4 surrounding me). I know I can shut them off, but then I will need to go into the menu every time I need to use them. I use Tulin's ability all the time, so I might just keep him on the screen. I really don't want them fighting enemies for me though. I want to do it myself.

EDIT - I guess they're called Sage Powers.

KCPenguins wrote:

I'm not talking about the main quests. There are a lot of useful things that are just randomly hidden across the huge world, that you could very easily miss for a long time. More linear games would place these sorts of things at an appropriate point in your progress, but with a non linear game like this, you could go your entire playthrough without it.

BloodPuppetX wrote:

I was just about to go to sleep last night when I saw a post on Reddit about the latest update fixing all of the duplication glitches. I thought me and my son both had auto-update turned off, but thankfully I decided to check just in case because it was turned On for both of us. I quickly turned it off. Hopefully I did it before the update was actually downloaded. Otherwise, I guess it's going to update the first time we have to actually turn the game off and then turn it back on. I'm just going to try to dupe everything I want before doing that.

Does anyone know if there's a way to see if the update was downloaded to your Switch but not installed yet?

Edit: Looks like even if your Switch already downloaded the update, if you have auto-update turned off, it will ask you if you want to update when you go to start the game, and you can skip it. That's good news.

@bonham2, sounds like you'll like the Lightning Temple if you liked Fire. Those are the best, and Water Temple barely even feels like a dungeon with how short it is. I did like the boss though.

I think I'm going to do some serious exploring and side quests before I go to the next temple (probably lightning). I am still struggling with combat, so I really need to buff up.

There's a few things that I know I should be doing that I don't do that would make combat better. First is just patience. I tend to rush things. I'll take out a couple of lookouts with my bow, but then rush in and just try to slash my way through. I often don't wait for opportunities to parry or perform flurry rushes. Second is cooking. Resources for buffs are pretty plentiful, but I typically only cook a little bit and use what I do cook sparingly. Finally, fusing. I tend to pick up and store stronger weapons that can't be fused, rather than holding on to more fusible weapons. While these weapons are initially weaker, fusing could make them stronger and more useful in certain combat scenarios.

Finally diving back in, and my god ... I hate the controls. Just feels clunky and off. I don't know how to explain it, maybe I'm a big dumb animal (true), but constantly hitting the wrong damn buttons.

MrBean wrote:

Even Nintendo posted it is okay to have Wanderlust!

MrBean wrote:

Took me a few hours too. I still drop or hit the wrong bottom sometimes but not near as bad, hasnt hurt me in combat etc

Get a job! It is so worth it!

MrBean wrote:

I think the controls are good, there's just so many buttons and button combinations to remember. The more you play, the more the muscle memory will build, and you'll be fine.

Got to Gerudo City last night to start up that story arc. It’s the last part of the “regional phenomena” quest that I have left to do.

I wonder what percentage of the story I’ll have completed when I finish it - map complete, 4 temples down, and the “Impa and the Geoglyphs” quest finished. Those seem to be the most story-centric bits of the game I’ve encountered so far, so I wonder if there’s much more or if I’m already close to the end.

MrBean wrote:

Read my post from earlier about mapping the buttons. I think all I did was swap X and Left Click In, and man does it make a massive difference. I find that I don't crouch much, so mapping that to X, and running to the stick just makes sense. Plus it's WAY more comfortable and allows me to move the right stick while running.

Thankfully you can map controls both in-game and through the console itself. Makes it really easy to adjust it to fit your needs.

Exploring the depths. It's not as bad as my first few times, but man I hate the darkness. Firing off arrows that may or may not land, or worse yet hit a few feet in front of you as you unknowingly are standing in front of a cliff bottom. Starting to unlock that similar to the sky towers, just MUCH slower going.

I won't spoil what I stumbled upon in the depths the other day, but it did sort of surprise me that the only way to discover this particular discovery was by exploring the underground world.

MrBean wrote:

You can re map buttons. But only with the Junk Cons or Pro Controller.

After having just beat BotW, TotK does look better visually.

MrBean wrote:

I'm over 30 hours in, and I am still fighting with the controls. I'm struggling with bringing up items, selecting weapons/bow etc, and selecting the powers wheel. You wan to throw an item? First you have to press the throw button and THEN bring up the item menu to select the item...very counterintuitive. I don't know if or how it could have been done better, but I'm still struggling after a pretty long time.

18 hours, haven't even gotten to Hateno or headed towards any of the four points of interest. Got my first stamina wheel finished, starting on some hearts now. I really like the shrines so far! Haven't run into one where I didn't like it that wasn't the standard tutorial shrines.

I've watched more than I've played so far but feel like this sums up everything I've seen

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTREEqwfc/

https://youtu.be/6hSRFp4Q8uE

Impressive construct engineering here.

Just realized something about lightroots, maybe I missed the dialogue...

Went ahead and ordered the Piggyback Hardcover Guide for TOTK and Extended Edition for BOTW while they are discounted. Have not wanted a guide in a long while but for some reason am drawn to the TOTK one and got the BOTW one for good measure. I know you can find it all on the internet but have loved these two games so much, I look forward the flipping through these books.

I'm back to REALLY enjoying this game again. I made some nice progress over the long weekend. Unlocked my first fairy fountain and upgraded all of my gear, which has cut down on the one-hit kills dramatically. I'm up to a full extra circle of stamina. Found my first piece of climbing gear, my favorite gear from BotW. Added several weapon/bow slots. And finally, I've started on the quests that lead to my first dungeon. I think I'm pretty close to entering it, so I'm really looking forward to seeing what it's like. Oh yeah, I also finally explored the depths a bit, that was fun.

I decided to explore as much as possible and finally finish unlocking the full overworld map. I'm trying to discover as many caves and shrines as possible and unlocked 3 of the great fairy fountains. I am trying to explore the depths as much as possible, and I'm trying to farm for zonaite so I can upgrade my battery.

@KCPenguins thank you for the tip about the lightroots/shrines. That has really helped. If I find a lightroot without a shrine at that location, I mark it on the overworld. I also try to follow the overworld to find the next closest lightroot.

I finished the 4 main temples over the long weekend and then decided to do the "photographing the depths" quest (or whatever it's called). Got autobuild + the shrine sensor, found the Yiga Clan fella. When I play again I'll probably work on following the rest of the statues in the Depths. Definitely making progress, but now I want to slow down that progress and focus on side quests to enjoy the exploration as much as possible before continuing the main story as I feel like I'm already approaching the endgame.

Think I wanna fix up the village that the pirate monsters attacked too, so that may be what I do next if I need a break from the Depths.

bonham2 wrote:


Honestly the underworld was a slog until I figured that out. It got a lot better then, but still some lightroots were a huge pain. The crap I was building didn't last or get me where I needed to be. I burned through all my stamina buffs climbing. One rootwas obviously meant for cheesing with construct devices as even with various low level construct builds and full stamina it still took a buff. So then I figured I better get better at building. Figured out what all the different stuff was, upgraded my battery some, found more construct gumball machines, dumped a ton into those.

The Depths are definitely a slog. They are very difficult to get through. And I don't see too much of a point as of now other than collecting zonaite to upgrade my battery. Most of my vehicles that I like to use take up a lot of battery. The vehicles that use less battery are not good for getting through the depths. My favorite vehicle only uses two fans but I fly through the battery very quickly.

bonham2 wrote:

Have you done the photograph quest yet, or the quest that's initiated right after it? Those are the quests to follow to get the most out of the depths. I also thought they were a slog, just kinda boring and pointless, but when you actually follow the quests that send you down there, they become a lot more interesting.

I haven't been playing as much as I'd like... but I finished 110 shrines and 3 sage quests (Wind, Fire and Lightning). LOVED Wind... was really awesome. I am on the path to Water, just doing the Zora fetch quests at the moment... easily GOTY for me, really loving it.

I now have all of the shrine sensors, travel medallion (super useful to place is weird Sky areas to glide down from!), and camera... finally making progress. Though I ill focus in on side quest adventures that I've not completed after I finish the Water section.

Does anyone have a sure-fire depths location for Large Zonite? I need a lot more for battery upgrades.

Sun wrote:

It is easily missed! The paraglider too... I tend to run off when I can and avoid main quests haha

Feeb wrote:

I need to stop shrine hunting and work more on side quests and side quest adventures... hope to do this later this week so my to-do menu isn't as disasterous.

Scott wrote:

It is my fault for not following the main quest more. But I understand the sentiment. I love the freedom, but sometimes it can be a bit too loose (whereas God of War Ragnorok would block off areas until you proceeded with the main quest, etc).

KCPenguins wrote:

It doesn't work in 1.1.2. But prior versions it should work just fine. I'm on 1.1.1 and don't plan on ever updating.

theJaw wrote:

Are you referring to the quest that gets you the auto build? Is there another quest that I missed?

Glad to see the Amiibo armor is in the game naturally. Seeing how you get one of them really makes me question how anyone was supposed to figure it out on their own. I wonder if the fashion lady gives hints on it and marks the map?

Trying to find Hateno Village so I can get the autobuild and Shrine sensor. It's more east and less south than what Robbie tells you.... Still making my way to that tower

Autobuild isn't at Hateno Village 😉

I pretty well forgot about the Hateno stuff and Robbie's upgrades after getting the shrine sensor (which isn't the most useful when you've gotten most of the shrines outside of caves). Went back and talked to Robbie, and after a short side mission and a few dialogues everything was upgraded maxed. Maybe should've done that sooner...

Has anyone heard any stories/reports of people having TotK auto-update to 1.1.2 even though they have auto-update turned off? A friend of mine said it happened to him, but I've not seen it mentioned anywhere else. I feel like he just messed up and clicked "Download" when re-launching the game.

I've kept my Switch offline. Going to continue doing so until I'm good with where I have Link at.

I was wondering around the depths and encountered a dragon! Spent the next 10-15 minutes just riding around on it straight on out of the depths. When I finally decided to jump off I was over an area of the map that I hadn't unlocked yet, so I headed for the first sky tower I saw and found another glyph to unlock another memory. Good way to end the night last night. So much fun.

Just got the master sword. For the first time I don't have a plan on what to do next. Might have to take a break and sleep on it.

Scott wrote:

I have been playing on 2 switches, it auto updated while I was playing on my Newer Switch, well down loaded the update etc. I was quick to put my main on airplane mode but using cloud save it knew cause it said when I get to a safe place to take it off airplane mode and update. Would not load the game.

90 plus diamonds, rubys and large cores will have to do

does make me not experiment with builds so I dont like the update, I paid for the game there isnt an online component. Let me play the way I want to play the $70 Zelda.

So I got autobuild but still can't get the Shrine Sensor. Guess I need to do one Regional Phenomenon in order to trigger that quest to pop up

Kommie wrote:

It's not the regional phenomenon quest that gets you the Shrine Sensor

theJaw wrote:

Yes and no. In order to trigger those quests, you need to do at least one regional phenomenon first. Then the Mystery quest can be started. That's what I've read online anyway.

Wondering if you guys have a go-to vehicle. I found something online with a makeshift master cycle type device. It's two fans connected to a steering stick in a very specific way. If you have the fans facing straight down, you can't really control the altitude, so this one has the fans angled in a way that you can control altitude. It is easily the best vehicle I have come across for getting from A to B quickly, especially in the Depths and going over mountains. The only complaints I have are it uses a lot of battery power and I can't get it to save to auto-build. For some reason, the game won't give me the option of saving that device.

I still haven't messed with building vehicles, but I was thinking I may start after I beat my first dungeon today. I just want something simple to speed up travel. How do you consistently have the right parts that you need to build it though, no matter where you are?

Groo wrote:

Did you have auto-update turned off on both Switches? If so, that's really weird. I don't understand how this is happening to some people.

Scott wrote:

I have a ton of Zonai tems. I got them from the gacha dispensers all over (mostly on the sky islands, but I've found some on the mainland too). I throw in 5 Zonai Charges at once and get a lot of rewards. And if the machine has items I want (like rockets or fans), I'll throw in 5 large Zonai Charges. You get more items than you can count. I have over 40 of nearly every Zonai item. Then I try to save my zonaite only for auto-build. Spending them on crysalized charges is a waste, especially the large zonaite. I read that you need an obscene amount of large zonaite to fully upgrade a bunch of armor items (something like 800 or 900 large zonaite), so save that stuff.

bonham2 wrote:

I know how to get the Zonai items like fans and stuff. I've been stocking up on those even though I haven't been building. I just meant the other parts you need to build stuff, like wood planks, metal boards, etc. That stuff is just in random locations. Does auto-build automatically supply any pieces like that that you need?

Yes, for zonaite. Let's say a build takes 15 zonaite, but you happen to have most of the items, auto build will round up the close supplies and lower the zonaite cost (so it might only cost 3 or 6 zonaite).

For people like us that really have no interest in being creative and building elaborate machines, auto-build is a godsend. You can find different schematics or just find some easy builds online and then save them.

Nice! I just beat my first dungeon, so I think I'm going to spend a little time finding some builds to use for traveling, before I move on.

Beat my second dungeon this morning. No rush to finish the other 2 though

bonham2 wrote:


I have saved a similar if not the same device. You go to recently built and you can set favorites which get a star.

I was able to save it today. For some reason, it just wasn't available in the recently built section.

Found a decent spot to farm aroows with two mobs + save and reload. Got over 200 now

And that spot would be? Need some more arrows, used up my supply lighting the depths

theJaw wrote:

to the right of Mayachin Shrine there's a small enemy camp in a forest, kill all the Bobgoblin Dudes besides the two who shoot arrows (one's a giant dude the other is a small one) without the fire fruit. run around to avoid being hit, collect the arrows then when you can no longer collect, save and reload. repeat.

If you're rolling in the rupees thanks to duping buying all the arrows at the shops periodically on top of breaking boxes will load you up. The boxes alone can keep you even if you visit camps and towns frequently, the stores just buffer. I'm well over 400 arrows with no farming.

Haven't done any duping or rupee farm yet

Kommie wrote:


I haven't found a good way to get rupees legit. This game feels much more stingy than BotW. In lieu of that, use ultra hand to break metal and wood boxes. Villages, ruins, enemy camps. Probably average 2 arrows per with the random 5 arrow drops.

I use my reporter n sign guy rupee and buy all arrows in towns I visit. I try and pass the sign guy but I end up stopping, the food n gift draw me back.

I got to the Light Dragon, and wasted time improving a machine and never made lift off and have not seen it again

I haven't watched too many videos, but I was looking for a good strategy on boosting my battery and this video had a ton of great farming stuff, not just for batteries: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4MHMQjGtgM

@SwiftJAB I have stayed away from them too. I did preorder the hardcover guide, but this video you posted was helpful. Gonna try some of his suggestions. only have extra 1/3 battery so this should help alot. My last build I used the dragon wheels and they used much less juice so been rockin that a couple plays. Love his light suggestion too. I note he did it after saying save autobuild. One of my auto builds built the Korok and Backpack well grabbed the live one close by and he was just shinny green. Reloaded a save before that happened, poor fella. Had to change my favorite, didnt even notice he was on there lol.

Here I am smacking guys with a rock sword...

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRogcwEr/

So I'm only like less than ten hours in. I keep seeing all these dupe tricks. Even in the patched version but seems way easier on original release. If I delete my digital copy and use the physical, will I be back on 1.1.1? Looks like my digital copy is updated.

Over the summer I just don't have the time to play this. I am OK with exploiting the dupes as I've read it becomes very grindy without it.

I dont think the dupes is necessary unless you want to experiment with builds and time is already limited and you have watched online videos just rock the 2 fan build and roll out and enjoy the game.

I duped diamonds, rubies and large charges. Only sold about 5 diamonds to buy outfits but now have more diamonds than I had. Used at least 10 Large Charges and have under 50 of those but I dont experiment post dupe. Duping Rubies was a waste but it was what I had at the time. After exploring the depths more and understanding charges (more battery) Everything you need is in the depths no dupes needed for that part.

It is your game, play how you want, only experience it once.

And I think this game has that Elden Ring Community help feel so questions and answer are A Okay.

Is dupe still possible? Never looked it up

Kommie wrote:



There are many dupes. The easiest one imo got patched out, but there are still dupes.

Kommie wrote:

I tried this one last night and it worked like a charm! I did it to sell diamonds and make some money. The only thing is that you really need to use this particular duplication method in Tarrey Town because it involves fusing items to weapons and the only way to unfuse them without destroying anything is to have a Goron in Tarrey Town pull them apart for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=096PCULpMgI&list=P...

My goodness... unlocking the underground map is a chore. Not quite 50% there. I've lost probably 6 fan bikes.

MrBean wrote:

My understanding is that, when you launch the game, it's going to look at what version your latest save is on. If that version is later than whatever is installed on that system, it's going to force you to update.

@Scott what if you're offline though?

MrBean wrote:



Doesn't do crap. I'm still on an old revision.

KCPenguins wrote:

He's not on the old version anymore. He said his digital copy is updated. So even if he deletes that and switches to a physical copy on v1.1.1, it won't let him play until he updates to the latest version. Staying offline only helps to prevent from updating to 1.1.2 in the first place, but once you've updated, there's no going back. Unless you start over on the system with 1.1.1, I guess.

citizen_zane wrote:

Yeah this looks do able. I looked at another one and it involved a house and some other crap. Guess I need to make it to this town soonish.

Thanks to @MrBean we have Tears of the Kingdom now! Yay :)

So I've been playing it and got the first 4 shrines, then ended up in the area around Woodland Stable, then finally to Hyrule Castle Ruins area. Trying to find my old pal Botrick for a much needed hug. What's the best way to get to the Outskirt Stable/Satori Mountain area?

Just beat...

Now it's onto regaining the Master Sword and then plowing through a bunch of side quests before I move toward the end game of the story.

I've found myself using my shield more than ever in this game. It helps that I usually having something fun fused to it. I know this isn't combat related, but anytime I find a rocket or bomb barrel lying around that I don't need, I'll fuse them to a shield for an easy height boost. I've also been shield surfing way more than I did in BotW. But for combat, I think it might be because the enemies are so much stronger than before, but I have really focused on blocking, parrying, and flurry rushes way more than I did before.

theJaw, I fought one of those guys in The Depths. It came out of the gloom arms (whatever it's called) that attack you. I don't know if it's the same type of boss that you're referring to. I found him to be very easy, although the gloom arms give me a really hard time. I don't know if there is a trick to them, but they kick my ass every time. I usually run away.

@bonham2 yah that sounds the same as the one I fought, had to take out the gloom arms first and tbh, those were what gave me more trouble than the actual mini-boss. The trick I use on gloom arms is fusing bombs or lightning materials to arrows and just rapid firing at them, can usually take them all out with 4-5 hits to the center. (But yah I also usually just run away lol)

The toughest fight for me so far was Phantom Ganon in Hyrule Castle. He multiplies in that fight and spreads the gloom all across the arena. I don't remember how many hearts I had but had to use every healing item in my inventory. Beat a King Gleeok yesterday, which wasn't even that difficult. Just bring a lot of arrows and keese eyeballs for the Gleeok fights, and a Savage Lynel Bow, and they are pretty easy. As long as you have enough health to not get one-shot, anyway.

I haven't even attempted a Gleeok yet. I saw two and ran away. I'm probably ready now though. Maybe I'll try tonight.

Yah I’m still not effing with them yet… if I ever do. I played like 200 hours of BOTW without ever beating a lynel because I’d just avoid them, so I’m in no rush to face off with the tougher non-bosses lol

Yesterday, I was running across a large, open field, trying to reach one of the towers up in the Hebra region, when suddenly I looked over and saw a Gleeok heading right for me. Freaked me out. I was not prepared to fight it so I hid behind something until it circled back, then made a run for it.

Gleeok is the 3 headed dragon boss dude from past. These things are regular world mobs?

Feeb wrote:

They're overworld mini-bosses, like Lynels.

Again, just bring plenty of arrows and the homing eyeballs for the Gleeoks. You might be surprised by how easy they can be. They do hit hard so probably best to have at least 15 hearts before fighting one. I suggested a Lynel bow because they can fire multiple arrows (and hit multiple heads at once - hit all three heads to stun it), but they aren't really necessary. The hardest part is the last phase when they go up high in the sky. You have to figure out how to reach them, which is also pretty fun.

One I haven't beaten yet is the Ice Gleeok, though I only fought one. That one will constantly freeze you, as you probably could have guessed.

I beat the Wind Temple. Pretty easy

It was pretty easy, but that was my favorite temple of the game. I loved the build up with the ships and the boss was real fun.

Reaching the Wind Temple was just as fun as clearing the actual Wind Temple.

Agreed. They don't have to be hard to be fun or memorable. The build up to the Wind Temple was great.

I decided to finally go after some Gleeoks last night. I was looking for the Awakening set, so I had to take on a Thunder Gleeok and a Fire Gleeok. They were both much easier than I expected. I am pretty strong at this point, and some of the abilities can make combat pretty easy. Like I said before, I always have rocket shields ready to go, so they made the later stages of the fight very easy. The arrow bullet time is really overpowered. If you wanted to cheese the game, you could just use that over and over, stun enemies, and then hack away. I do prefer to actually fight the enemies though.

I still have only beat two temples. I really don't want to move on. I usually find in games that once I'm ready for the endgame, I find it difficult to keep exploring. There's so much that I still want to do. I still probably only have about 1/3 of the Depths uncovered. I still have tons of shrines to find. I'm probably only around 100 Koroks at this point, and I still have a ton of armor sets to find. I don't want to move on.

I also have still never gone to Hyrule Castle. I figured that's where the final boss is, so I'm staying away, but now I see people online going in there early on in the game.

Kommie wrote:

I found the Water Temple to be easier imo. Those are the only two Temples I've completed as of yet.

bonham2 wrote:

Just like BotW, I'm really taking my time with it. I did quite a bit of exploration before even doing my first temple, and I'm going to break up the rest of the temples with even more exploration. In BotW, I didn't fight Ganon until I had finished all of the divine beasts and shrines, so I'll probably do the same thing this time around. I did continue playing after that, but just to finish maxing out my armor sets, and to find enough Koroks to max out my inventory slots.


I haven't either. In BotW, I made a couple visits throughout the game to grab a couple specific things, but for the most part, I waited until the very end of the game to explore it. The main thing I wanted to grab was one of those really powerful Royal weapons to use on Lynels.

bonham2 wrote:

I'd highly recommend visiting the castle. Just don't go into the depths. Stay on the elevated portions of the castle. There's lots of great equipment hidden in chests that can be quite useful.

My girlfriend filled me in that there is a mini-boss in the area, but I haven't found them yet.

Though I made it to the fire temple, I never went further, just felt got there to soon and was weak. Made it to the Wind Temple last night was an epic fight just kind quick. Are the other 3 Temple Bosses this way? I started the other 2 too but not all the way to the temples.

After beating the Wind Temple, I went back to Robbie and he finally went on his way, when we met back up I got every upgrade he offered, guess I did this much later than I should have.

I did think I found the light dragon and flew up right away but it was a different dragon

I need to go back to Robbie and get those other quests, he should give them to me as I did one Dungeon.

There's a shrine called Jiukoum Shrine - Built for Rails.

I was stuck at it for awhile. Finally beat it, but the way I went about it didn't seem to me like it was intuitive. I'm curious how others went about it.

Here's some pictures and an explanation:

Idk what it is but I just can’t get into TotK and I absolutely loved BotW. Exploring isn’t as exciting now after elden ring and I’m just not that into it. It’s a great game but just can’t get into it. I’m happy playing Diablo and then ff16 is around the corner.

I’ve been anticipating this game for years and sort of bummed that I’m not enjoying it. Everything just feels like a chore

I made a similar contraption. My bottom rails were wide enough to connect to the outside of each of the beginning rails and then were still close enough so that I wouldn't fall off the 3rd rail once I landed on it. It took a lot of time to get the contraption perfect.

Shane12m wrote:

Legit my thoughts exactly. It's super fun, I'm < 10 hours in so really can't comment overall ... but eh, I dunno, it's not grabbing me. I think more focused/dedicated time is needed, but D4 + FFXVI are calling me more at this time.

bonham2 wrote:
You did similar? Interesting. It didn't feel intuitive, but I couldn't figure out another way to go about it.

You didn't have to rebuild mid ride? It just slid onto the next rail and kept going?

MrBean wrote:

Same. This one is tedious. I’m only about 10-12 hrs in too. I’ll definitely finish the story at some point.

Feeb wrote:


BotW is a top 3 game for me. Still on the fence on whether TotK will top it. Slightly swung towards no at this point.

Just spent around 30 minutes failing to figure out what to do at the Makasura Shrine. Some of these puzzles, I just can't figure them out. I can get creative in order to make progress and figure out a workaround, but that only gets me so far. I left the shrine. No idea what to do.

I prefer TOTK over BOTW in just about every way, to the point that I really can’t see myself being tempted to revisit BOTW with TOTK on my shelf.

nonamesleft wrote:

Yeah, but it took a long time to get it perfect. I spent more time on this shrine than any other by a long shot.

I try not to "cheat" on the shrines, although I know it's not cheating if you use what the developers put into the game. I just can't help but feel cheap building a super long bridge or using recall to float over a gap or using a rocket shield to fly over an entire shrine. I still do it every once in a while when it seems like an obvious solution, but I always try to do things the way I feel they "should" be done or use a creative way.

nonamesleft wrote:

I just did this shrine recently. I had a platform that was exactly the length of the two starting rails, so I just connected pieces at the very edge, going down, which fit in the outer rails perfectly. Then I had another piece in the middle, going down, to fit into the middle rail at the transition. I was worried it would tip over when it got to just the single rail in the middle, but it didn't. I made it perfectly on the first try.

I've got about 70 hours on TOTK and love it. The world has more going on, the building is amazing, and the numerous QOL improvements have removed a lot of the tedium I found in BOTW.

I've beaten the four temples and am now just faffing about, once I start getting tired of the game I'll run to the castle and keep moving with the story. I'm really enjoying the building and am working on maxing out my batteries.

My biggest complaint is the fact that the wings expire after gliding for a certain amount of time. I understand why they expire from a gameplay perspective but would be much happier if they could be infinite or have a longer functional time before they expire.

Yeah, I completed the 4 temples, I got the memories from the Tears of the Dragon quest, and I just completed the quest to retrieve the Master Sword. Now I'm just exploring a bunch before continuing the story, currently working on tracking down shrines so I can vastly up my heart count. Already have 2 full stamina wheels, but may add more (if you can?) once I'm content with my health bar.

I completed the maze labyrinth up in the very North East corner of the map last night - did that shrine and a nearby shrine. I stopped right as I spotted some ships in the ocean, so I'll probably explore whatever's going on there before heading up into the sky to continue the labyrinth up there (found the one in the sky before doing the one on the ground, so I can just teleport to the Shrine that's up there whenever I'm ready).

bumsplikity wrote:

This is the biggest thing for me. My favorite thing about BotW was exploring, and the exploration in TotK is just so much better. You're not just running around on grass and mountains, there's also caves (some of which are quite large and interesting), wells, sky islands, AND the depths. I'm constantly switching back and forth between all of these environments, and it's just so fun. There's only one thing missing that I was really hoping they would add: water exploration. In a lot of Zelda games, Link can swim around underwater, but sadly this is not available in BotW/TotK. This could open up a ton of possibilities. Nintendo has already confirmed that they're sticking with the BotW/TotK style moving forward, so I wouldn't be surprised if we get underwater exploration in the next game.

Another thing I'm loving is having access to the Hero's Path so early. I got it recently and it's making it so much easier for me to thoroughly explore without being over-the-top tedious with it like I was in BotW. In BotW, I did 1 region at a time, and wouldn't move on to the next until I had thoroughly explored every inch of it. I did that because I was worried it would be difficult to remember where exactly I had explored, and where I hadn't. But I don't have to worry about that anymore!

@Scott Maybe that is their plan for the third game. We've already got building, so in the next game maybe we can create submarines.

And not only are there more biomes to explore, but there seems to be more life in those biomes. More NPCs with quests, more repeatable quests, more varied encounters.

bumsplikity wrote:

Submarines

The building is already pretty solid, but I can't wait to see where they take it in the next game!


Very true! Also, while TotK has much better enemy variety than BotW (one of my main complaints about BotW), there are still SO many enemies from past Zelda games that they could bring back! It's so fun seeing an old enemy in these games for the first time. Remember seeing your first Lynel? Your first Like-Like? I do "like" what they did with Like-Likes in this game, but I kind of wish they moved around, and would capture you if they touched you, like in the original.

The Like-Likes can still swallow Link if you get too close to them. It's happened to me a few times and the Guardian companions as well. It stole my weapon once, but otherwise hasn't really done any harm. The compendium entry says they can eat either your equipped shield or weapon, but they haven't taken a shield from me yet.

Zelda: Breath of the Subnautica

I finally grabbed the Master Sword yesterday and decided to progress the story a bit by getting to the Lightning Temple. I didn't complete it yet, but I will tonight. I can already see the lightning power as being way OP. I might decide to dismiss that one too once I beat the temple. I keep Tulin activated for his gust power, but I really hate how he helps me fight. I'll be in the middle of a tough battle, and then he'll headshot the enemy and knock him down making the fight way easier. I don't like that.

Has anybody done any of the big battles where the villagers fight alongside you? I saw that in a video a while ago, but I haven't come across anything like that in the game yet. I'm wondering if it's a story related quest, although I was under the impression there were multiple side missions with that.

You can disable Tunlin.

bonham2 wrote:

I haven't come across that either, I don't know where it happens or anything like that. I'm pretty sure I did the quest that the video shows the villagers helping, but I did it alone with no villagers. I watched a YouTube reviewer talk about how one of the things he just had to get used to as far as new Zelda goes was "the missions where you can go out and fight alongside villagers" so apparently it is in the game somewhere, I just haven't seen any evidence of it.

Kommie wrote:

I know. I dismissed the Goron dude. He's annoying and kept getting in my way. I'll enable him when I'm exploring areas with a lot of rocks to break, but other than that, I don't want him around. I keep Tulin enabled because I use his gust power all the time.

theJaw wrote:

I started it with helping the General at Hyrule Caste
Gate. He stops looking there for Zelda and starts helping the people fight Monsters. Tells you where he is going and you can help. After each fight tells the next mission. I also have come across tents with a fella cleaning weapons and a women near the cooking pot worried about the groups going to fight, you can grab the weapons and she usually gives you a food item.
Also found a group lead by a Lieutenant or horseback near a ship and joined them, they didn't fight as well so lucky they had me

Also they mention after the blood moon respawn but they want to fight anyway.

What triggers bullet time in sky islands, and is the floating water balls a construct thing? I've come across bullet time, but it seemed random. I haven't seen the water balls.

Would bullet time be when everything slows down? Usually if you’re in the air and aim with your bow, everything goes slow motion until you shoot.

The big water balls are part of the Water Temple if I recall. They may show up elsewhere but not sure.

@Groo ahh thanks, I never followed up with him.

theJaw wrote:



The slow down I'm talking about is only on the sky islands so far. The jumping motion changes and Link travels further. At first I thought it was a glitch, then I remembered it was in one trailer.

On a side note, this game is popular. This week I heard 2 conversations on it from other adults. One was at an expensive hibachi grill where three adults and the chef briefly talked about playing it.

@KCPenguins That just happens on some of the sky islands. I've been referring to it as Low Gravity. I've only seen it in sky islands, and a few shrines.

bumsplikity wrote:

I definitely remember having it in a Shrine on land, and I think one of the Temples as well.

Yah and that labyrinths in the sky.

Just beat…

How do I get this drug addict in Goron City to sell me diamonds?

First time I got to play in awhile. The OCD in me just won't continue on until I unlock all of the underworld. Probably 75-80% there.

I maxed out my stamina and increased my battery some. Now, I'm working on the Goron storyline.

KCPenguins wrote:

I am with you. I still have probably 50% of the Depths to unlock. I will not complete the game until I have every outfit and 100% of the map unlocked. In a perfect world, I will have completed all 152 shrines, maxed out all armor, beat every mini boss and unlocked every part of the map. I did all of that for Breath of the Wild. I was as close to 100% as I could get without tracking down every korok. I just don't know if that will really be possible this time around. It's too much.

Scott wrote:

What is the max for stamina anyhow?

theJaw wrote:

Two extra wheels, so 10 stamina vessels.

Got the Master Sword last night and activated the last Skyview Tower. Now exploring the depths to get Robbie to leave Lookout Landing so I can upgrade the Purah Pad. Only 1 temple completed so far (Wind). ~55 shrines done.

Interesting, I can get the Master Sword now apparently. Kinda figured they'd be lazy and have the same process of BotW but it's kinda flipped for TotK.

I dig how integral the Master Sword is to the story itself in TOTK.

Scott wrote:


I've heard mixed reports that you can and cannot max both. More say you'll be left 2 upgrades short of doing so.

I maxed out stamina before (voluntarily) getting hearts. I'm at 17 hearts, 89 shrines, and 109 lightroots. Trying to wrap up light roots to unlock the underground map 100% tonight as I'll likely have to take a break for a few days.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dun8L2vfcvw


Holy smokes some people love their auto-scroll music levels.

Kommie wrote:

I didnt notice him before but after I beat Fire Temple, a fella in Goron city was selling them for $1000. Link sells them for $500 so buy from Link, he has a house somewhere around Tarrey Town.

Groo wrote:

Yeah, pretty sure you need to do the Fire Temple to get this guy to stop doing drugs and sell you Diamonds.

Ugh, looks like I'm missing some obscure light root(s). The map looks complete, at 119. Going to have to call it for a night.

Will need to start attacking some new beasts... some armor upgrades require it.

I can't tell you how much I have fallen in love with this game. As much as I enjoyed BotW, I acutally never finished it, only getting thrrough two temples before moving on to other games. This game, however, has totally engrossed me. It's all I think about. I can't wait for my next day off from work to explore the vast realm of Hyrule. I've completed the Wind Temple and have started on the Gerudo Temple, but have spent most of my time just exploring Hyrule. While I've never been a fan of sandbox games, this one has me deep in it's clutches. It's like I've cut off a lot of my contact with the outside world to focus on this game. It has some sort of hypnotic trance upon me. I've never been so invested in a game.

There's a shrine called Murasaka Shrine. I completed it, but there's no way the developers' main way they intended for it to be solved was the way I did it. I doubt it.

There are these devices that stand upright when you strike them. You're supposed to attach things to them, and then when you strike it, the entire contraption stands upright. In the beginning of the shrine, there's an L shaped metal piece that you stand upright, and then glide off of, over a small chasm.

The Murasaka Shrine has these things that make you think of a catapult, a bowl at the end of a board, so it's intuitive that the way you're supposed to go about the shrine is by catapulting the things you need, such as one of those orbs/spheres that you need for a certain slot in the floor. The orb is behind a gate. You get over the gate by using

But I didn't realize that you have to strike the upright devices to activate them, so I went about it by building a contraption with the catapult bowl at the end, I placed the sphere inside the bowl, and propped the contraption against the wall. I then went on top of the wall and used the hand power to pick up the sphere and get it over the gate to the slot in the floor.

This opened up a closed gate which led to another catapult looking device. Now there was a huge chasm separating me from the goal. What you're supposed to do, is

But what I did, was build the longest contraption I could, made it stand upright, ascended to the top, and then attempted to glide across the chasm. Couldn't make it. So I took the tall contraption, and brought it as close to the beginning of the shrine as I could. I placed the "bridge" and walked towards the beginning of the shrine, where the first contraption was. The upright device kept the bridge suspended horizontally over the first small chasm. I walked as far to the end as I could, just within range of the very first L shaped metal thing that I had used to cross that first chasm. I picked it up with the hand ability and retraced my steps. I then connected it to the long bridge I had made and then carried it all the way back to the giant chasm. I then struck the upright device, making an extremely tall climbable thing that had bowls on it (the catapults). I then ascended once, then climbed up to one of the bowls and stood on it. I then ascended again and was now standing on top of a huge upright contraption. It was tall enough to then glide over the chasm. I was greeted with that "you solved it" sound.

Totally not how you're "supposed" to solve it. But at least I solved it.

I found a YouTube video of the shrine. So much simpler to do it the way the devs intended. But I appreciated that there was a workaround.

I preface this post by saying, again, that I absolutely love this game and there is no shortage of extremely fun things to do. It's gorgeous to look at, and the story is great this time around. I'm really enjoying my time playing it, so what I'm about to bring up isn't a criticism of the game itself, just something I was thinking about recently.

Does anyone else feel like we were duped a bit with the promise of "real" dungeons? During the month or so leading to the game's release, it was confirmed that there would be a return of true-to-form dungeons but after 120+ hours of the game there... just isn't. Yeah, the temples work as dungeons to an extent... but really only the same way that the Divine Beasts did in BOTW. "Enter the location, complete 4-5 mini objectives, beat the boss." There are no "small keys" or "big keys" that need to be collected during these portions of the game, which were the primary staple of traditional dungeons in the Zelda franchise.

Obviously the Temples are still super fun and get the job done for what they are, but they just don't feel like traditional dungeons. It really does just feel like BOTW's "4 primary locations + shrines" system, which again, I'm totally here for and are really enjoying. It's just strange that there was a promise of the return of traditional dungeons when that really isn't the case. The closest thing to a traditional dungeon I've come across so far is Hyrule Castle, with the "B1, B2, B3, 1F, 2F, etc" set up (which to be fair, the temples incorporate as well), but even then it was really more about just finding practical ways to navigate through as opposed to collecting keys, fighting mini bosses or solving puzzles that went as in-depth as previous games.

theJaw wrote:

Having just finished my 2nd temple last night, I was planning on making a post about this today. They're definitely not dungeons, not even close. They're very similar to the divine beasts, but somehow a little better. I don't think we were promised real dungeons though. To the best of my knowledge, Nintendo never said anything about dungeons. I think that's why they even called them "Temples". It was a lot of the people who got to play the game early who were throwing around "yes, dungeons are back!" type claims. Surely they were just doing this for clicks, right? They can't really think these are the same as classic dungeons? In addition to keys like you mentioned, there also needs to be enemies, classic dungeons were filled with them. Not to mention a mini-boss. Some kind of special item or upgrade, that the dungeon was based around, was the key aspect IMO, but I've talked before about how they really can't do that in a BotW/TotK style Zelda.

citizen_zane wrote:

I feel you. This has pretty much been me for the last month. Just always looking forward to the next time I get to play.

@Scott yah it may be a little difficult to do the "revolve around a new item's gimmick" shtick in BOTW/TOTK style Zelda, but they totally could do everything else you mentioned and then just make the final prize some cool new gimmick item (on top of the classic heart container).

But Nintendo did confirm it in an "Ask the Developer" post on the Nintendo website. Apparently when he was asked about the return of traditional dungeons, Hidemaro Fujibayash (copy and pasted that bad boy) confirmed they would be in the game, noting that they "hadn't talked about them yet". Considering how the Temples are far more similar to Divine Beasts than traditional dungeons, I feel like he could have worded his response a bit better to not raise expectations.

Here's the quote from the site https://www.shacknews.com/article/135431/zelda-tot...:

"Yes, we haven't talked about the dungeons yet,” he admitted. To take things further, Fujibayashi also teased a specific dungeon that he believes will wow players. “There is a dungeon that connects directly from Hyrule's surface. If you dive from the sky straight into the dungeon, you'll trigger an event."

I think that diving bit he's talking about is referring to the labyrinths in the game - which are also far from a traditional dungeon. So maybe he just didn't understand the core of the question he was asked, but he did confirm dungeons to some extent.

I've done 3 of the dungeons (haven't done Hyrule Castle at all yet). I have definitely enjoyed them WAY more than the Divine Beasts. The Divine Beast were all about manipulating the beast so you could get to new areas. They all looked the same, with the same music, and very similar bosses. These temples all have a unique atmosphere with unique music and a unique boss. I agree that they are not true Zelda dungeons. I do miss the difficult enemy encounters (rooms where the door locked until you beat every enemy were some of my favorites). I miss the mini-bosses, and I miss the search for keys/boss keys. I still feel like they could have incorporated those elements without changing the core gameplay mechanics of TotK. I get that they don't want to add items that are required for further exploration, but the abilities you gain from the sages act just like those items. They could have still had more traditional dungeons even without limiting our gamplay. What they have though is actually pretty good. Like Scott said though, Nintendo never promised anything related to dungeons.

I'm in the same boat @Scott @citizen_zane. I was starting to lose a tiny bit of steam last week, but then had an absolutely amazing 10 or so hours over the weekend that culminated in me getting the master sword, so now I am back to thinking about nothing else.

The only open world game to get dungeons right is Elden Ring. There are mini ones, and about 5 or so decent sized, actual dungeons. Can't remember call how many but real dungeons.

The temples are probably the best they can do with the abilities they gave Link. Rather than keys, there are switches or puzzles to get gates to open. Instead of finding an object that adds a new mechanic midway through the dungeon, you're given a helper with special abilities before you get to the temple.

I think the beauty of the game is that there isn't this linear path to tackling a temple or a boss. There's certainly the scripted routes to point people in the right direction, but when you can scale walls, glide around, craft objects and Ascend through floors, it would feel weird if you got hamstrung into some forced way of tackling a dungeon.

Don't get me wrong, I hope that they continue to make some classic dungeon style LoZ games in the future, especially in the style of A Link to the Past and the other greats we got on GBA and DS.

I've also found areas outside of the 4 main temples that feel more like traditional zelda dungeons, albeit without bosses and keys. There was a floating island in the sky that had a number of mirror puzzles that very much felt like old zelda, and I thought the construct factory in the depths was kinda dungeon-y as well. Some other areas also have a similar feel.

Got auto-build. That's gonna make life a lot easier. That also allowed Robbie to leave Lookout Landing and to the Hateno Lab. Already had everything in my possession to fully upgrade the Purah Pad. Now I really feel like the game is beginning. Still only 1 temple completed. ~60 shrines done.

Yeah, the build up to the temples is much better this time than they were in BotW. I agree with SwiftJAB in that I hope they don't completely ignore the traditional Zelda games. In the same sense as Metroid vs Metroid Prime or the 3D Marios vs. the 2D Marios. They are different enough where they should not ignore what came before. I want another game similar to A Link Between Worlds. I love Metroid Dread, but I'm still very excited for Metroid Prime 4, etc.

Question for you guys, is there anyway to see how many shrines you have completed (outside of looking at the map and counting)? I want to know how close I am to 152. My guess is I'm probably around halfway there, which makes me worry about how I'm going to find the rest. I feel like I've hit nearly every one that is out in the open.

bonham2 wrote:


Load screen gives you stats. Just fast travel somewhere. Lightroots max out at 120 so the other is shrines.

Speaking of lightroots, found the last one this morning. It was a tiny circle hidden by the dark blue (deeper) area of the map. The reward might as well have been the same as the reward in BotW for getting all the Korok seeds. Underwhelming...

Does that mean there are 32 shrines in the sky?

bonham2 wrote:


I assume the delta would be in the sky, but I don't know how many shrines there are. I thought I read somewhere there were 156, unless that counted some of the temples.

Found the fire temple while exploring for light roots. Kind of annoyed they locked the fast travel back to it (presumably) by story. Oh well, next stop Goron city to hopefully activate that.

theJaw wrote:



That 100% seems to be a miscommunication, likely due to the language barrier. I remember a ton of folks running with the traditional dungeon story, but I didn't really see it happening.

I've only done the wind temple, and honestly didn't find it to be any better than the divine beasts sans the boss fight (which I much prefered over fighting black clouds). The climb to get to it was cool though.

I just beat the game with all shrines completed and all costumes... took around 140 hours. I used no guide for any shrines, but used a guide for some of the costumes. AMAZING game - love the story. No duping here! But I did use all of the amiibos for additional items and costumes.

SMY36738 wrote:

I put 170 hours in BotW. Only up to 35 hours on TotK...but I had no kids back then with BotW .

The only thing I did not do in BotW was get all the Korok seeds beyond what was needed to max out weapon/shield/bow slots and upgrade the amiibo-exclusive armor since harvesting star fragments and other dragon parts was a pain. I think I got like 450 seeds which was like half?

I can't imagine coming anywhere close to putting in an equivalent amount of time in TotK given the kids (I can play a few hours every weekday night and maybe a bit more than that on weekend nights).

SMY36738 wrote:


That's darn near a full time job! Nice job man.

I did not upgrade all armors... just the 2 main ones, plus Hylian Hood and Hylian Trousers. I also only found less than 200 Korok seeds, so I did not max out my weapon/bow/sheild inventory... but yeah, it took a lot of hours and dedication!

My spouse has been waiting patiently to play, so I had to give it up or I'd be hunting for more seeds! I've done every single side quest that I came across, except to find all wells. Still missing 20 of those.

I bought a copy for my kids... I don't get enough opportunities to share. lol

Digital for me, physical for them.

KCPenguins wrote:

Thanks for this. I have completed 97 shrines, so I've actually done more than I thought.

theJaw wrote:

For sure! I definitely think there's more they could have done to make them feel like traditional dungeons, while not giving up the style of BotW/TotK.


It definitely sounds like he didn't realize they were asking about "traditional" dungeons. He just thought they were asking if the game has dungeons, and yes, it does.

I stumbled upon King Gleeok yesterday. Took a few tries but was able to defeat him. Mostly took a few tries because I would run out of stamina and hit the ground while high up in the air and forgetting to each a recipe to replenish stamina so I can land safely during the last phase of him.

I'm really digging that fact that many of the shrines have multiple solutions in terms of how you can solve them.

There's just so much to do in the game and while it seems repetitive, it's still fun IMO. I may take a break once FFXVI comes out though.

Failed to defeat a Lynel multiple times. 4 hearts and an old shield wasn't enough. I've been relying on evasion/counterattacking, but my weapons aren't very strong.

Maybe I'll try again. I can take two hits from the Lynel, but can't take any of its rush attacks. Those take Link out with my current equipment.

A good challenge, but I suspect that I'd break all of Link's weapons before I take out this Lynel.

I couldn’t imagine trying a Lynel with 4 hearts. I have 20 hearts right now and still don’t wanna try haha

theJaw wrote:
:) Yeah, those Lynels are powerful.

I tried again. The Lynel broke all 4 of my shields, and then tackled Link. I left the area. Maybe I'll return when I have better weapons and more hearts.

Stronger gear is probably more important than extra hearts (although both are great, of course). Have you unlocked any fairy fountains and upgraded your gear yet @nonamesleft? Also, learn how to cook powerful dishes. A +3 attack power dish goes a long way in a lynel fight.

Scott wrote:
No fairies yet and haven't upgraded my gear yet either. The dishes I can cook though. I have the ingredients.

Yeah I don't think I'd be fighting lynels with 4 hearts and just the base gear lol Even with great dishes, you're going to burn through a lot of them, and probably a crap load of weapons too.

I think if you get good a parrying, head shots with arrows, and mounting you can probably do fine with 4 hearts. You'd want a decently strong melee weapon to attack with while mounted so the fight doesn't go on forever, but you could do it with just one weapon since durability isn't effected when hitting a lynel while mounted.

Beat the fire temple. Again enjoyed the boss fight, and again the "dungeon" was equivalent to a weaker divine beast. It was nice to be able to circumvent the 'way N intended' the dungeon be solved though. Nuts to the maze of rails.

Upgrading some armor, not sure if I want to hunt for more armor, upgrade batteries, explore the sky more, attack shrines, side quests or the next dungeon... so many options.

SwiftJAB wrote:

Yeah, but it takes practice at fighting lynels to get good at those things. By the time you've fought plenty of lynels and gotten good at those things, then yeah, you could beat one with 4 hearts. But not just starting out.


He's unlikely to have a strong weapon yet since he's so early in the game, is the other thing. I love that trick though, I'm so glad they kept it in this game and didn't remove it after BotW.

Lynels pretty sure I saw something they hate tech, drop some and they freak and attack it, not you.

Octorocks, I remember them sucking up stuff in BOTW but I dont remember what happened to it but the Rock Octorock suck your weapon up and spit it out stronger, then go to another and its a multiplier. Goron has a few near one another.

See Octorock and then smack a Lynel!

Scott wrote:

Good thing the game let's you save and load. No need to beat a bunch if you just practice on one over and over.



Plenty of weapons out there, just need to travel a bit to get to them. And if he could find a diamond, that would be a +25 buff. Shoot, if he has amiibos, he could possible get some good stuff from just scanning them.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's possible early game depending upon how much effort you want to put into it.

SwiftJAB wrote:

True!


Yeah, definitely possible, just not very realistic. It didn't sound to me like he was wanting to Google where he could go raid some high-powered weapons, he was just trying to fight them with what he has currently.

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