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Topic   Final Fantasy

MrBean
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11-Jun-2019(#1)
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MrBean
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26-Jun-2023(#41)
Thankfully the game does get a bit less linear.

I'm legitimately impressed with this one and absolutely enjoying it.
ued222
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27-Jun-2023(#42)
Bravely Default, Triangle Strategy and some others are turn based and likely cost a pretty penny to make. Super Mario RPG is coming out to alongside a ton of other turn based RPGs. I am unsure if any of them are Triple A in cost though. I am finding it is going more indie as of late and many of the games only require 10k-1000k to break even nowadays for the genre. I fear the availability of online guides and builds ruin the strategy involved.
Bleed_DukeBlue
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1-Jul-2023(#43)
The All Bark and Playthings side quests in FFXVI are dark! I’ll give them credit. After the worst set of protagonists in FF history in FFXV, they got the tone right this time for the most part.
benstylus
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2-Jul-2023(#44)
ued222 wrote:
> I fear the availability of online guides and builds
> ruin the strategy involved.

These are really easily avoided though. Just don't read/ watch them.

It's not like plot spoilers which you can casually read mid paragraph (he's Luke's father!)... a strategy or build usually will take a bit more explaining.

Chocobo
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7-Jul-2023(#45)
Is it worth it to go through arcade mode?
Chocobo
Gold Good Trader
7-Jul-2023(#46)
Best1989 wrote:
> We need to accept in our hearts that mainstream big-bucks turn-based games are a
> thing of the past.
>
> Nice to see a main FF game getting all those positive comments. XIII and XV are infamous
> for all the hate.

My opinion, but 12 is the best FF. 8 is my favorite, but 12 does so much right.
Feeb
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7-Jul-2023(#47)
12 is the best combat. 4 and 6 (us) best overall.
brian9824
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7-Jul-2023(#48)
Beat FF1 Pixel Remaster and started 2, never played some of the non US releases so looking forward to playing thru 1-6.

I might need to play 7,8,9,10,10-2, and 12 on switch and just go thru them all in order as I havent played most of them for years.
ued222
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8-Jul-2023(#49)
This game needed a deeper system. Weapons don't have additional effects that changed combat and just increase stats. I would have liked going for a more ranged build possibly instead of being forced to go more close combat all the time. I don't feel like playing the game again. Not to say it is a bad game but it is lacking in replayatability to me and customization which I feel RPGs need. It also is mostly depressing most of the game minus some moments. I don't like some combat elements. It reminds me of Nier where I tried to shoot and hack and slash at the same time which I found extremely difficult. I like doing the most amount of damage possible with the dog and just find me button mashing.
MrBean
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* 9-Jul-2023(#50)
ued222 wrote:
> This game needed a deeper system. Weapons don't have additional effects that changed
> combat and just increase stats. I would have liked going for a more ranged build
> possibly instead of being forced to go more close combat all the time. I don't feel
> like playing the game again. Not to say it is a bad game but it is lacking in replayatability
> to me and customization which I feel RPGs need. It also is mostly depressing most
> of the game minus some moments. I don't like some combat elements. It reminds me
> of Nier where I tried to shoot and hack and slash at the same time which I found
> extremely difficult. I like doing the most amount of damage possible with the dog
> and just find me button mashing.

I agree, the overall gear/inventory was just ... weak. You pick up tons of mats throughout the game, skip 80% of the new store inventory, for a random upgrade that never really feels like anything changed, sans the sword appearance. I haven't changed any of my accessories in ages either.

Really feels like they could have a much better craft/upgrade system. Like they tried, and then cut it short due to time/budget, something, and left it half done.

I was at like 250k in gil and like, what the hell am I supposed to do with this? Seems like it serves no purpose, except to buy the soundtracks ... which I finally started doing, hope this doesn't bite me.

Overall, the game feels more like a walking sim to be honest.
Chocobo
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9-Jul-2023(#51)
MrBean wrote:
> ued222 wrote:
>> This game needed a deeper system. Weapons don't have additional effects that changed
>> combat and just increase stats. I would have liked going for a more ranged build
>> possibly instead of being forced to go more close combat all the time. I don't
> feel
>> like playing the game again. Not to say it is a bad game but it is lacking in
> replayatability
>> to me and customization which I feel RPGs need. It also is mostly depressing most
>> of the game minus some moments. I don't like some combat elements. It reminds
> me
>> of Nier where I tried to shoot and hack and slash at the same time which I found
>> extremely difficult. I like doing the most amount of damage possible with the
> dog
>> and just find me button mashing.
>
> I agree, the overall gear/inventory was just ... weak. You pick up tons of mats throughout
> the game, skip 80% of the new store inventory, for a random upgrade that never really
> feels like anything changed, sans the sword appearance. I haven't changed any of
> my accessories in ages either.
>
> Really feels like they could have a much better craft/upgrade system. Like they tried,
> and then cut it short due to time/budget, something, and left it half done.
>
> I was at like 250k in gil and like, what the hell am I supposed to do with this?
> Seems like it serves no purpose, except to buy the soundtracks ... which I finally
> started doing, hope this doesn't bite me.
>
> Overall, the game feels more like a walking sim to be honest.

The walking sim is how I felt early on. I don’t mind the story, but they need to take a note from Tales of and provide more areas to explore.
MrBean
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13-Jul-2023(#52)
Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisis came out today on mobile.
Renaissance2K
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15-Jul-2023(#53)
I was cautiously excited about this until the preview that came out a few days ago. The game presents too little of the story content, and you need to pay to progress through the chapters at a decent rate, after the "honeymoon period" at the start of the game.

MrBean
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* 19-Jul-2023(#54)
49 hours into XVI. Feels like I'm nearing the end (just collected my last power, all side quests and hunts completed up to this point). As expected, story went a little into the deep end but honestly not bad. The overall story, acting, character development has been surprisingly good. I'm actually really interested to see how they conclude the story and the reasoning/drive behind the main antagonist.

My biggest gripe is that the combat is just so insanely repetitive at this point with no real creativity or fun anymore.

Still, enjoying the game. Looking forward to wrapping. Haven't looked at the trophies yet, not sure if Plat is insane or not. Honestly I just hope there's some kind of end game big challenges in store.

Getting the urge to go finally play the Zodiac Age.
Feeb
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* 20-Jul-2023(#55)
I just fought very early boss marboro man plant guy- the music is great. If this is the boss combat song I’m psyched to continue. It feels very generic ARPG excepting the clearly FF music. I definitely prefer ys IX gameplay.
MrBean
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20-Jul-2023(#56)
@Feeb glad you said that. I picked up IX but totally forgot. Crap, gotta figure out how to get that in the queue.
MrBean
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29-Jul-2023(#57)
Well, damnit. Almost end game in XVI. Looking at trophies, got everything I can do... Two require a NG+ play through. How dumb, thats gonna be a hard pass.
Feeb
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* 29-Jul-2023(#58)
I’m just really getting into it and… it’s very boring. I like the music and… the … music. Gameplay is very shallow, feels like a boss fighting game with walking in between. Only 4 hours in and not understanding how this met acclaim yet 15 got trashed. It makes me want to shelve it and put the time into XIV instead. And I just may.
MrBean
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29-Jul-2023(#59)
@Feeb it will get better. There's definitely a lot of drag, but overall, I'm pretty happy with it, I think. Rolling into the last area right now.
MrBean
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29-Jul-2023(#60)
I will say that this game may have the best trophy name ever "Such Dodge, So Mega".
MrBean
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30-Jul-2023(#61)
XVI may have the longest credits of any game. Sooooo many names, how the hell do they turn a profit when paying this many damn people for multiple years? My God.

Overall, I really did enioy the game. Combat got boring, lots of really slow walking Sim areas, but the story/world/characters, made it worth my time.

47/50 trophies, can't get the other two unless I do NG+. Wrapped up in 57 hours (truly felt ike double that).

I debate NG+, but realistically... Maybe in a year or two. Happy to be done. Time to move onto Aliens, Calisto, Hogwarts, TotK... And then Spiderman, Wonder, Mortal Kombat, Jesus too many still.
theJaw
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30-Jul-2023(#62)
FFXII The Zodiac Age is free on PS Plus. Think I’ll finally give it a fair shot sometime soon.
Renaissance2K
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30-Jul-2023(#63)
MrBean wrote:
> XVI may have the longest credits of any game. Sooooo many names, how the hell do
> they turn a profit when paying this many damn people for multiple years? My God.

Spider-Man PS4 has three hours of credits. I think the only games that can top that are those Kickstarter projects that thank all the individual donors.

MrBean
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* 30-Jul-2023(#64)
theJaw wrote:
> FFXII The Zodiac Age is free on PS Plus. Think I’ll finally give it a fair shot
> sometime soon.

I recently restarted this (second time), really want to commit to it. Finished original back on ps2, but never Zodiac. Seems like it's totally worth it.

I remember enjoying XII back in the day, but explicitly remember not using the combat system as intended as I wanted to keep everything manual. Really need to get this on the priority list.

Just so hard to replay something when there's so many huge games on the backlog these days.
Feeb
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30-Jul-2023(#65)
Playing FFXII correctly feels like playing all characters in an mmo with no noobs that stand in fire. You can setup how the heals are done and when / which status effects are removed, which DPS is used, who they focus etc. it feels really well done but you definitely have to commit to understanding and setting it up. I know other games have tried this but it just looks and feels perfected here.
Chocobo
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3-Aug-2023(#66)
MrBean wrote:

> My biggest gripe is that the combat is just so insanely repetitive at this point
> with no real creativity or fun anymore.
>

I can't stand it at this point. There's no variation and it's driving me insane.

> Getting the urge to go finally play the Zodiac Age.

Hands down my favorite FF. I'm not sure at what point it surpassed 8, but everything about 12 is perfect.
MrBean
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* 2-Sep-2023(#67)
I never went back to the XV DLC. Wonder if this will be worth it. I enjoyed XVI but wasn't everything I was hoping it'd be.

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/169813307141172...
MrBean
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* 14-Sep-2023(#68)
Welp, this is exciting, Feb 29th!

This looks pretty great already. Supposedly 100 hours!

Safe to assume we'll have to wait another 3 years for the third part, on PS6.

https://youtu.be/lNVL-ygqw3w
MrBean
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* 21-Oct-2023(#70)
Man, I really wish I could play XIV... But alas, I enjoy being married with kids.

https://youtu.be/fhqHwPPcWN4
lordkaosu
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22-Oct-2023(#71)
Been playing XIV since the 2.0 beta with the wife, we find it pretty easy on our time and no worse than other games unless you let it be (it can be more time consuming than playing Cat Quest in co-op for instance).

MrBean
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2-Nov-2023(#72)
brian9824
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3-Nov-2023(#73)
MrBean wrote:
> Time to buy a Butter Finger.
>

Funny enough they give you all that but no system to play it on
lordkaosu
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3-Nov-2023(#74)
You're trying to say that bundle isn't so ultimate after all?

brian9824
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* 3-Nov-2023(#75)
lordkaosu wrote:
> You're trying to say that bundle isn't so ultimate after all?
>
>

It should come with a lifetime of hair gel so you can pretend you are your favorite final fantasy char. THAT would be ultimate.

Or a life sized Barett body pillow
MrBean
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8-Nov-2023(#76)
Question its legitamcy, but wow a IX remake would be amazing. Hell, just a proper remaster would be plenty awesome.

Still, sad that we have to get so excited about the old games vs. building new ones that are worthwhile.

https://www.gfinityesports.com/news/final-fantasy-...
Renaissance2K
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8-Nov-2023(#77)
How on Earth are they going to do a decent remake of IX when VII is going to take half a century to finish? I'm worried this is going to be like the FF8 Remastered release, where they AI-upscale some textures and squeeze it into an under-optimized PC port.

Shane12m
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8-Nov-2023(#78)
MrBean wrote:
> Question its legitamcy, but wow a IX remake would be amazing. Hell, just a proper
> remaster would be plenty awesome.
>
> Still, sad that we have to get so excited about the old games vs. building new ones
> that are worthwhile.
>

But they are doing both. Ff16 just came out
MrBean
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8-Nov-2023(#79)
Renaissance2K wrote:
> How on Earth are they going to do a decent remake of IX when VII is going to take
> half a century to finish? I'm worried this is going to be like the FF8 Remastered
> release, where they AI-upscale some textures and squeeze it into an under-optimized
> PC port.
>
>

Yep. VIII was disappointing, that was just a quick money grab.
justin_credible
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* 9-Nov-2023(#80)
So I'm guessing 9 will be a game "remade" with graphics on par with about Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles on Gamecube and not Final Fantasy VII Remake.

I would rather they turn that 9 upside down and remake 6 from scratch. (it was 6 for PS1, originally known to North America as 3 for Super Nintendo) I'm wondering why they never did it. Are they afraid it won't sell well enough when the word of mouth would be they're remaking one of the greatest Final Fantasys of all time that several generations of gamers never played? I find that hard to believe. Instead the ones that were already developed in 3D are the only ones to get any love.
Renaissance2K
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14-Nov(#81)
I'm not working through Final Fantasy XVI as fast as everyone else, so I apologize, but I'm partway through the fight between

Ifrit and Titan Lost

and hot damn. This is the most metal Final Fantasy ever.

image

Okay, second most metal Final Fantasy ever.

Topic   Final Fantasy