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Topic   PlayStation 5 Discussion Thread

Frank
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11-Jun-2020(#1)
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Let's discuss Sony's latest console, the PlayStation 5!


benstylus
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29-Aug-2023(#161)
Dualsense Edge is the best selling accessory in the US
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/08/ps5s-pro-c...

PSVR2 sold about 600k units in six weeks
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/psvr-2-sold-just-shy....

It tracks

MrBean
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29-Aug-2023(#162)
I really want the Edge but holding out for a v2 with better battery. Should probably just cave.
Feeb
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29-Aug-2023(#163)
benstylus wrote:
> Dualsense Edge is the best selling accessory in the US
>
> PSVR2 sold about 600k units in six weeks
>
> It tracks
>
>

I was shocked to see this. No way anyone pays for this stuff?! They certainly do. They likely will.
ErickRPG
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* 29-Aug-2023(#164)
I'm excited about the playstation portal because of how it can turn on and off your PS5 almost as if you pushed the PS button on your dualsense controller. So imagine being away from home, or heck even just in another room on the other side of the house. You pick up your PS Portal and hold the PS button for a sec and it's like you have your PS5 right there with you.

This is especially cool if you still like physical games. My PS4 and PS5 collection I will now consider a portable games collection, as long as this thing works well. I'm thinking of selling my xbox versions and buying PS4 versions of a handful of games I haven't beaten yet. Because I'd much rather play on something like the PS Portal.

Feeb
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29-Aug-2023(#165)
I’ve used remote play hundreds of miles from home and it’s good with great internet connections. Wifi is almost not an option for a solid experience. If this remote play was seamless with wifi it would be absolutely worth the cost. I’ve had power outages from storms, cats knocking out plugs etc kill my ability to use it for a week because ps5 powered off.
ErickRPG
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* 29-Aug-2023(#166)
How is remote play done without wifi though? Cellular data I'm guessing?

Feeb
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* 29-Aug-2023(#167)
ErickRPG wrote:
> How is remote play done without wifi though? Cellular data I'm guessing?
>
>

I meant with my ps5 on a wifi and not hard wired. I cannot get a solid experience without my home ps5 hardwired. Even with the best wifi signals.

I have used it with cellular on my phone- it was pretty bad.
Dusk
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29-Aug-2023(#168)
MrBean wrote:
> I really want the Edge but holding out for a v2 with better battery. Should probably
> just cave.
I highly doubt it. All the dualsense's have terrible battery. It's an amazing controller otherwise, might be my overall favorite, dethroning the 360/switch pro/xbox elite v1 for me.

MrBean
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29-Aug-2023(#169)
Yeah, true. Well, maybe black friday it'll see a minor drop, hopefully.
PizzaTheHutt
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* 29-Aug-2023(#170)
"Sony Interactive Entertainment filed trademarks for Astro Bot on August 25 in Europe"

I really hope this is something to do with an upcoming PSVR2 game. 🙏
Shane12m
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29-Aug-2023(#171)
PizzaTheHutt wrote:
> "Sony Interactive Entertainment filed trademarks for Astro Bot on August 25 in Europe"
>
> I really hope this is something to do with an upcoming PSVR2 game. 🙏
>

I hope so! If it was something coming soon wouldn’t they have filed it earlier?
Dusk
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29-Aug-2023(#172)
MrBean wrote:
> Yeah, true. Well, maybe black friday it'll see a minor drop, hopefully.
Yeah definitely. $200 is a bit steep, but with how well its built, the ability to have no stick drift, all the dualsense features, etc, I'd say it's worth it, but it'd be nice to grab it for a $150ish range for sure.

Dusk
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29-Aug-2023(#173)
PizzaTheHutt wrote:
> "Sony Interactive Entertainment filed trademarks for Astro Bot on August 25 in Europe"
>
> I really hope this is something to do with an upcoming PSVR2 game. 🙏
>
Don't have a VR2 (yet), but would love a new game by them. Selfishly, I hope it's full fledged platformer instead of a VR game, but would be amazing if 2 games came out.

Archer
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30-Aug-2023(#174)
On September 6th PS+ prices are jumping up. So get some years added now.

PS Plus Essential

Old Yearly Price: $60

New Yearly Price: $80

PS Plus Extra

Old Yearly Price: $100

New Yearly Price: $135

PS Plus Premium

Old Yearly Price: $120

New Yearly Price: $160
PizzaTheHutt
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30-Aug-2023(#175)
Wow that sucks. I guess back to the PS+ Essential when my PS+ Premium expires next July.

bill
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30-Aug-2023(#176)
The thing is, they have deals on these prices (e.g. black friday I paid $75 for Plus Extra last year). So, it's hard to say if the price now is better than it will be when it's on sale.
Kommie
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30-Aug-2023(#177)
I'm not gonna bother renewing my PS Plus or Gamepass once it expires. I don't think they're worth it. Almost never use them
Bleed_DukeBlue
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30-Aug-2023(#178)
Yikes. I feel really lucky that I took advantage of that window when you could convert all of your years of regular PS+ to premium with a month of PS Now when they first made the switch. I've got PS+ premium until April 2029.

Archer wrote:
> On September 6th PS+ prices are jumping up. So get some years added now.
>
> PS Plus Essential
>
> Old Yearly Price: $60
>
> New Yearly Price: $80
>
> PS Plus Extra
>
> Old Yearly Price: $100
>
> New Yearly Price: $135
>
> PS Plus Premium
>
> Old Yearly Price: $120
>
> New Yearly Price: $160
TalonJedi87
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* 30-Aug-2023(#179)
They must be high to think a $20 price hike is just fine and dandy. I too won’t be re-upping my sub once it expires in November. Def not worth it. I hope they lose a lot of subs for this greedy ass move too. And if I ever do Game Pass it’ll just be short term like 1-3 months with a cheap CD Keys code if I ever wanna beat a couple of new games they add.
bill
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30-Aug-2023(#180)
I had a good year with Plus Extra, played a lot of great games out of the catalog. Saved tons of money because I stopped buying games otherwise mostly. Weirdly, I've been buying more Switch games, though.

At this point, I've played all the games in the plus catalog that I was interested in. So, I'm unsure about continuing. I think I will do another year, but it may feel like a waste unless they add a lot of good stuff to it. I have stuff on my wishlist that I'm hoping will fall into the catalog...
Orlandu
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* 30-Aug-2023(#181)
I think a lot of people will balk at the extra/premium prices. That's a steep % increase all at once.
TalonJedi87
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30-Aug-2023(#182)
To quote a famous grand Jedi master to Sony: “The shadow of greed that is.”
longhornsk57
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30-Aug-2023(#183)
I'm glad I stacked like 5 years when the first conversion happened but I'd never renew at those prices that's crazy
beavis
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30-Aug-2023(#184)
Yea I think I'm out at the Premium level. I haven't actually played anything even though I was excited about it. I keep saying I'm going to go back and play some PS1 games I missed but I just never do. I may just renew at Essential level.

What happens if you don't renew and let it drop but pick it back up later. Do you get back access to all the Essential games you claimed from before?
PizzaTheHutt
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30-Aug-2023(#185)
PS+ Essential is, well, essential for me because my friend and I play so many co-op games online. We live on opposite ends of the country, so playing locally isn't an option. But if they're upping the price of it, then it'd be nice if they upped the quality of monthly games they offer too (Saints Row ain't it).

Feeb
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30-Aug-2023(#186)
The way I obsessively play every game I get into and the number I own- sub service is not for me.
bill
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30-Aug-2023(#187)
It comes down to math. A $20 increase is worth it if you get that much increase in games you play from the monthly or catalog that you would have bought. $20 doesn't buy as much game as it used to.

Game prices have gone up. It's $70 for a new A-list game now. For example, I'm interested in playing the Dead Space remake, but it came out at $70. It's on sale now for 30% off, but that is still $50. I'm thinking I'd pay maybe $20 for it or wait for it to be included in the catalog. I'm patient.

The randomness of what ends up as a free monthly PS Plus game or in the Plus Extra catalog is the tricky part of this. It's hard to know in advance if those games will be worth the yearly price of PS Plus. Hard to know if waiting for a game you want to play makes any sense. Waiting sucks, but paying $50+ for a game also sucks.
bill
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30-Aug-2023(#188)
Regardless, now would be a good time to check on your auto-renewal settings.
benstylus
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30-Aug-2023(#189)
bill wrote:
>
> The randomness of what ends up as a free monthly PS Plus game or in the Plus Extra
> catalog is the tricky part of this.

I don't think it's randomness. I think they specifically dangle quality releases every so often to boost subs, then go back to the lesser releases for a few months until a significant number start to lapse, then put out a few more good ones, etc.


bill
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30-Aug-2023(#190)
Yeah, but there are (random) quality games that I have no interest in. I need a crystal ball to know which quality games are coming so I'll know whether to just buy them now (on sale) or wait.

If they did 12 months of quality games in genres I don't like, I'd regret subbing.

But yeah, if they're raising prices maybe they will also be announcing some quality games coming to the catalog.
DrizzDrizzDrizz
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30-Aug-2023(#191)
increase sucks but it’s still worth it for me, i rarely even buy PS games anymore (though that’s more due to how badly they messed up, and still aren’t fixing, Croatia transitioning to Euro currency - you literally can’t buy anything via the store directly since January 1, you have to top up your wallet with gift cards instead, absurd)

I’ll buy another year at old price and be on the lookout for deals like bill mentioned, i guess
MrBean
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* 30-Aug-2023(#192)
Hrm, are there legit discount codes out there anymore? Looks like I'm paid up on Premium till late 2026, would extend further if possible (and cheap) but don't have much interest in paying $120 being that I almost never use it. Definitely won't renew at that new price once it expires.
TalonJedi87
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30-Aug-2023(#193)
I hope CD Keys continues having discount codes. They still do now for both Game Pass Ultimate and PS+ basic
ErickRPG
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31-Aug-2023(#194)
I had gamepass for a couple of years. But then I just realized I have so many physical games that I don't ever need any sort of game rental service for the rest of my life.

benstylus
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* 31-Aug-2023(#195)
But if you sell all your games you'd have enough money for a subscription/rental service for the rest of your life!

ErickRPG
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31-Aug-2023(#196)
benstylus wrote:
> But if you sell all your games you'd have enough money for a subscription/rental
> service for the rest of your life!

That's a great idea. Sell an asset to rent. Maybe I'll do that with my house too!

DarkFact
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31-Aug-2023(#197)
I'd just done a one month premium sub to see what the classics collection was about. Looks like I can safely uninstall that stuff and cancel the sub...
Finn
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31-Aug-2023(#198)
bill wrote:
> It comes down to math. A $20 increase is worth it if you get that much increase
> in games you play from the monthly or catalog that you would have bought. $20 doesn't
> buy as much game as it used to.
>
> Game prices have gone up. It's $70 for a new A-list game now. For example, I'm
> interested in playing the Dead Space remake, but it came out at $70. It's on sale
> now for 30% off, but that is still $50. I'm thinking I'd pay maybe $20 for it or
> wait for it to be included in the catalog. I'm patient.
>
> The randomness of what ends up as a free monthly PS Plus game or in the Plus Extra
> catalog is the tricky part of this. It's hard to know in advance if those games
> will be worth the yearly price of PS Plus. Hard to know if waiting for a game you
> want to play makes any sense. Waiting sucks, but paying $50+ for a game also sucks.


I agree, There is still a lot of value in PS Plus and it's varying tiers.


My take:

I think as gamers we have had it pretty easy and I seem to think gamers have this opinion that inflation should not affect us. Well it does. The cost of running these server farms has gone up from rent and taxes assuming they rent... but one thing for sure is the cost of power to run these vast farms has also gone up. I am sure there are other costs that have been impacted by inflation. It sucks but these costs get passed down. Why people think Sony, MS and Nintendo are our friends I have no bloody clue. They are out to make money and it's that simple. They have share holders to appease... that's business! you don't have to like it, but that is the way it is. Prices going up 20 bux a year is nothing for the value you get. You can call it greed, but IMO that's just the entitlement speaking IMO. If you don't want to pay it then don't. Gaming is a privilege not a right. that maybe a hardnose take that will ruffle feathers but that's the cold hard truth as I see it. PS+ and GP are still very much great values, even with both seeing price increases over the last couple months.
benstylus
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* 31-Aug-2023(#199)
It honestly depends on the type of gamer you are.

We don't all fall into the same space in this hobby. Some people love AAA games, some people prefer indies. Some people put thousands of hours into a single Call of Duty or Madden game, others just want tons of games that are easy to plat. Some people just want to play, no matter the condition of a game, others want to collect and will buy only mint complete copies, preferably sealed. Some people play a lot, others watch other people play a lot.

It's a big hobby and there is room for all of us. Whether gamepass/psn plus is a value for our circumstances or not.

TalonJedi87
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* 31-Aug-2023(#200)
I just like to sub temporarily to game pass for 1-3 months, beat a couple of games they have on there over time then let my sub run out. I also wait a long time now to buy new games. I don’t buy them at launch almost never now since they mostly drop in price a few months after release there’s just no reason to rush to buy a say $60-$70 title anymore. Unless you’re one of those rare folks who is all caught up with their backlog and thirsty for some more. If so, the more power to ya!
MrBean
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* 31-Aug-2023(#201)
PS Portal up for pre-order: https://direct.playstation.com/en-us/buy-accessori...

Releases Nov 15th

I snagged it.

Does PS Direct allow for returns? Would prefer to buy elsewhere just in case.

Topic   PlayStation 5 Discussion Thread