Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:> This is pretty amusing at this point. The irony is apparently lost on you that you
> continue (over and over) telling me how much you don't care about and don't want
> to engage in this conversation yet can't seem to stop yourself.
>
> I'm not sure how me making a comment and you misunderstanding it and then being incapable
> of admitting that counts as a "debate," but OK. We're really not debating anything.
> (I even agreed with your initial premise that criticizing Fox was political. I
> just fleshed out why I thought that, and, apparently, the criticism I included in
> that explanation has gotten under your skin for some reason.) You've chosen an odd
> hill to die on.
>
> Snappy wrote:
>> Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:
> |>> Lol. You misrepresented what I was saying, so I explained where you were incorrect.
> |>> Rather than admit to your mistake, you pretended like you didn't really read
>> it
> |>> and then told me to take a hint because you didn't want to debate. (Seems like
>> you
> |>> were pretty interested in debating when you thought you had a "gotcha" moment
>> because
> |>> you didn't read carefully =). You're free to take the ball and go home. No
> one
> |>> is forcing you to respond. Everyone is very aware that you can't handle politics
> |>> being discussed in your vicinity, which, as I've already said, is a you problem.
> |>>
> |>> Snappy wrote:
>> |>> Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:
> |>> |>> Lol. What mental gymnastics did you go through to come to that conclusion?
>>
> |>> I
>> |>> initially
> |>> |>> said this:
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> "Fox News represents itself as a neutral news organization that is “fair
>> and
>> |>> balanced,”
> |>> |>> so criticizing it for focusing on stories intended to draw viewership through
>> |>> appeals
> |>> |>> to outrage is not inherently political unless they’re lying and their agenda
>> |>> itself
> |>> |>> is inherently political."
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> Once again, I said that criticizing Fox for focusing on stoking outrage is
>> not
>> |>> inherently
> |>> |>> political UNLESS they're lying and their agenda itself is inherently political.
>> |>>
> |>> |>> I thought my implication was pretty clear: they're lying and their agenda
>> itself
> |>> |>> is inherently political, so criticism of them takes on a political connotation.
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> You then incorrectly claimed that "it took [me] a paragraph to explain why
>> bashing
> |>> |>> Fox News is definitely *not* political." It's cool. You misread, but no
>> big
>> |>> deal.
> |>> |>> That's why my next response started with "You're missing the point."
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> I proceeded to elaborate on my previous comment, clarifying that I did see
>> criticism
> |>> |>> of Fox as political for the specific reason that it isn't a neutral news
> organization
> |>> |>> but, rather, a political propaganda outlet. You can't really criticize a
>> political
> |>> |>> propaganda outlet in a way that isn't at all political.
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> I'm going to come back to something else I pointed out earlier. If you can't
>> |>> handle
> |>> |>> talk that has any political implications, then you can simply not engage
> in
>> it.
>> |>>
> |>> |>> It's really not that hard. The fact that you can't handle other people doing
>> |>> so
> |>> |>> is kind of a you problem.
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> Snappy wrote:
>> |>> |>> Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:
> |>> |>> |>> You’re missing the point. I’m agreeing that criticism of Fox News
>> has
>> |>> become
> |>> |>> |>> political but only because Fox News is not actually trying to be a fair
>> and
>> |>> balanced
> |>> |>> |>> source of information. It found a niche selling political propaganda
>> that
>> |>> invites
> |>> |>> |>> an emotional reaction. For that reason alone, critiques of what they
>> do
> |>> have
>> |>> |>> a political
> |>> |>> |>> angle to them. If you don’t think Fox is selling outrage, then I’m
>> curious
>> |>> |>> what
> |>> |>> |>> you think they are doing. There are multiple peer-reviewed studies that
> |>> evidence
> |>> |>> |>> how Fox News viewers are less informed across the board than other Americans.
>> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> |>> In any case, for someone who supposedly is not a Fox News supporter
>> and
>> |>> just
>> |>> |>> wants
> |>> |>> |>> politics to not be discussed, it seems odd that you keep following up
>> about
>> |>> it.
>> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> |>> Your choice to continue responding is actually bringing in more political
>> |>> discussion
> |>> |>> |>> :). You could just take your own advice and give it a rest.
> |>> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> |>> Snappy wrote:
>> |>> |>> |>> Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:
> |>> |>> |>> |>> Fox News represents itself as a neutral news organization that is
>> “fair
>> |>> |>> and
>> |>> |>> |>> balanced,”
> |>> |>> |>> |>> so criticizing it for focusing on stories intended to draw viewership
>> |>> through
>> |>> |>> |>> appeals
> |>> |>> |>> |>> to outrage is not inherently political unless they’re lying and
>> their
>> |>> agenda
>> |>> |>> |>> itself
> |>> |>> |>> |>> is inherently political.
> |>> |>> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> |>> |>> Snappy wrote:
>> |>> |>> |>> |>> DCGX wrote:
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> Snappy wrote:
>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> benstylus wrote:
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> Finn wrote:
>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> They are becoming more and more dramatic in there takes.
>> Like
> |>> |>> with
> |>> |>> |>> the
> |>> |>> |>> |>> PS5
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> slim
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> needing
>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> to phone home when you install the drive. Nobody takes
> time
> |>> to
> |>> |>> research.
>> |>> |>> |>> |>> For
>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> instance,
>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> you can't take a drive from a non working Xbox Series
> X and
> |>> pop
> |>> |>> it
> |>> |>> |>> in
> |>> |>> |>> |>> another
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> unless
>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> you take the PCB with it... That's not something the vast
> |>> majority
> |>> |>> |>> of
> |>> |>> |>> |>> people
>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> now
>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> how to do.. the drives are "Married to the console" has
> been
>> |>> since
> |>> |>> |>> the
> |>> |>> |>> |>> 360/PS3
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> days.
>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> It's something Sony or MS can't really work around. YouTube
>> |>> is
> |>> |>> full
>> |>> |>> |>> of
> |>> |>> |>> |>> those
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> awful
>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> takes. And I find many of the channels I subscribe to
> are
> |>> all
> |>> |>> guilty
>> |>> |>> |>> of
> |>> |>> |>> |>> it.
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> ReviewTechUSA
>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> is getting bad for it so far as calling it anti consumer
>> and
>> |>> really
> |>> |>> |>> attacking
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> Sony
>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> without really looking into it.
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> Outrage brings views
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> Just ask Fox news
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>>
>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>>
>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> I’m not a Fox News, or any major news outlet, supporter
> - but
> |>> how
> |>> |>> about
> |>> |>> |>> |>> leaving
>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> the politics out of the video game site?
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> It's not politics. It's literally Fox News's strategy, which
> is
>> what
> |>> |>> benstylus
>> |>> |>> |>> |>> was
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> pointing out, and they've admitted it on multiple occasions,
> including
>> |>> |>> their
> |>> |>> |>> |>> recent
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> legal scuffles.
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> |>> |>> |>>
>> |>> |>> |>> |>>
>> |>> |>> |>> |>> It’s politics.
>> |>> |>> |>>
>> |>> |>> |>> I see it took you a paragraph to explain why bashing Fox News is definitely
> |>> |>> *not*
>> |>> |>> |>> political lol. Is this real? Give it a rest people. It’s political
>> -
> |>> durk
> |>> |>> durk
>> |>> |>>
>> |>> |>> I don’t care to discuss Fox News because… this is a video game site,
>> and
>> |>> that’s
>> |>> |>> obviously a *political* topic… which you were oddly refuting but now
> seem
> |>> to
> |>> |>> have
>> |>> |>> backed off on. Good for you for changing that obviously wrong assertion.
>> |>>
>> |>> Bruh… take the hint… I’m really not interested in debate club with you.
> |>> I didn’t
>> |>> even really read what you said. The comments sections on Facebook or any news
> |>> outlet
>> |>> website seems like where you’d find some friends to play with.
>> |>>
>> |>> I just wanted to comment about @benstylus injecting *political* commentary
> because
>> |>> I find it obnoxious. Mission accomplished.
>>
>> I stopped reading what you were saying several monologues ago. lol Who are you
> even
>> debating with? Give it a rest.
Word.
