Shane12m
15-Feb(#2)Heavyd814life wrote:> Kommie wrote:
>
> The fudge is he talking about lol. I read the quote twice and I’m still confused.
>
>
>
Can’t stand the dude. What a dumb statement
Feeb
16-Feb(#4)PizzaTheHutt wrote:> Alan Wake 2 has sold 1.3 million copies, making it the fastest selling Remedy game
> of all time. I guess going digital only for a full priced game didn't hurt them at
> all.
>
>
I’ve almost bought it a few times. I feel like every time I visit any digital storefront it’s in my face. I guess the aggressive advertising is working.
Heavyd814life
16-Feb(#5)PizzaTheHutt wrote:> Alan Wake 2 has sold 1.3 million copies, making it the fastest selling Remedy game
> of all time. I guess going digital only for a full priced game didn't hurt them at
> all.
>
>
I saw this on Gematsu earlier. Smoke and mirrors, imo. 1.3 million copies when your development + marketing costs are a reported $70 million isn't exactly great if you do the math. If you look beneath the surface and beyond whatever headline they try to push, I think you see a much clearer picture.
There's this quote from the press release:
"the game has already recouped a significant part of the development and marketing expenses."
So the game still hasn't turned a profit. And Remedy Entertainment's stock is down 30% in the last month which is a HUGE drop so obviously investors aren't happy with the company's outlook. You take Epic's money, you skip over a physical release and you're still in the red.
I don't see how this is positive news. It scares me that a game that had all this buzz and hype is super, super niche. For reference, Granblue Fantasy Relink, a super niche JRPG which came out last week, has already sold 1 million copies. Maybe just maybe limiting the number of people who are able to buy your game that cost a crapton to make isn't' a good idea.
justin_credible
16-Feb(#6)Who's the say it wouldn't be at 2 million or 2.5 million with physical? I personal know some people that won't buy a digital only game. I prefer physical myself but I did buy it.
Shane12m
* 16-Feb(#8)Heavyd814life wrote:> PizzaTheHutt wrote:
>> Alan Wake 2 has sold 1.3 million copies, making it the fastest selling Remedy
> game
>> of all time. I guess going digital only for a full priced game didn't hurt them
> at
>> all.
>>
>>
>
> I saw this on Gematsu earlier. Smoke and mirrors, imo. 1.3 million copies when your
> development + marketing costs are a reported $70 million isn't exactly great if you
> do the math. If you look beneath the surface and beyond whatever headline they try
> to push, I think you see a much clearer picture.
>
> There's this quote from the press release:
>
> "the game has already recouped a significant part of the development and marketing
> expenses."
>
> So the game still hasn't turned a profit. And Remedy Entertainment's stock is down
> 30% in the last month which is a HUGE drop so obviously investors aren't happy with
> the company's outlook. You take Epic's money, you skip over a physical release and
> you're still in the red.
>
> I don't see how this is positive news. It scares me that a game that had all this
> buzz and hype is super, super niche. For reference, Granblue Fantasy Relink, a super
> niche JRPG which came out last week, has already sold 1 million copies. Maybe just
> maybe limiting the number of people who are able to buy your game that cost a crapton
> to make isn't' a good idea.
>
>
Yup and making it so you can’t buy it on steam had to hurt sales significantly as well
justin_credible
17-Feb(#10)ErickRPG wrote:> Since I am a dollar sign I speak with my money. It is the only power I have. When
> the rumor came out their next XSX version will be discless (this one is much more
> solid and likely to happen) I ditched Xbox. I didn't buy baldur's gate 3 when it
> was digital only and now I have a physical collectors edition on the way for PS5.
> I won't buy alan wake 3 either. They are definitely missing out on a lot of physical
> sales, and it's a choice they made. My choice is to not buy it.
>
>
Alan Wake 2 you mean right? Unless 3 is on the way and I was unaware.
justin_credible
19-Feb(#12)I've played 48 hours of Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth. I'm 99% sure my two favorite games of this year are going to be out by the end of this month, this and Final Fantasy Rebirth.
Kommie
20-Feb(#15)issue of performance is mostly a game by game basis and the developer. Like, I'm sure some people will thing the Switch 2 will play the new Zelda games out of the box at 60 FPS but it doesn't work like that unless they update the games as they were made targeting 30 FPS. And knowing Nintendo you'll be paying full price all over again for ports.
longhornsk57
20-Feb(#19)Ya I'm thinking about playing the trilogy on my laptop or on PS6 instead of having any performance issues.
Feeb
* 21-Feb(#23)Archer wrote:> SMT:V Vengeance was just announced for all platforms. Which is SMT:V with its new
> DLC. It was originally just a switch title. June 21st this year.
Nice. I stopped playing it shortly after launch but would definitely revisit on a beefier box.
Archer
21-Feb(#24)Feeb wrote:> Archer wrote:
>> SMT:V Vengeance was just announced for all platforms. Which is SMT:V with its
> new
>> DLC. It was originally just a switch title. June 21st this year.
>
> Nice. I stopped playing it shortly after launch but would definitely revisit on a
> beefier box.
Yeah, it ran like crap on the switch. I suffered through it. But don't remember anything about it really. The story was pretty much non existent. It was such an odd game. I'm looking forward to seeing what they added for the story.
justin_credible
21-Feb(#25)I'm on Chapter 12 of 14 on Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth. Close to 60 hours in.
Haven't seen anyone else mentioned they're playing through it except one person and nothing listed in Last Game You Beat? Everyone should be playing this.
Heavyd814life
21-Feb(#26)justin_credible wrote:> I'm on Chapter 12 of 14 on Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth. Close to 60 hours in.
>
> Haven't seen anyone else mentioned they're playing through it except one person and
> nothing listed in Last Game You Beat? Everyone should be playing this.
It's on my hit list along with Tekken 8 and Persona 3. I've been juggling Helldivers 2 (Soo good!) and Granblue Fantasy Relink (10 hours in. It's solid). And then Rebirth drops in a week. It has been an insane start to the year!
Groo
22-Feb(#27)I upgraded to the PS4 Pro when gamestop had a great bonus trade in and the Star Wars Pro was on sale. I got rid of the game it came with but that was a slick looking PS4 Pro (I still have the controller) everything played better, and it was worth it. As of right now I will say I will not upgrade, but will have to see what the Pro has going for it.
longhornsk57
22-Feb(#29)I would definitely upgrade, especially if it means 4K:60 and not having to choose between 4k:30 and 1080p:60 - imagine playing Spiderman in fidelity with the performance FPS etc.
PS5 is good hardware but it still can't push enough fps in fidelity modes and especially if there's ray tracing. Gimme that Pro or 6 any day I'd upgrade day 1.
theJaw
28-Feb(#31)It’s almost like these giant corporations should stop buying up smaller developers, but who am I to say ya know?
Oduomega
28-Feb(#32)theJaw wrote:> It’s almost like these giant corporations should stop buying up smaller developers,
> but who am I to say ya know?
All they care about is "the line goes up", anything "quality" that's not 100% guarenteed to make them money (nothing is 100%...) gets tossed. Shaving pounds to save pennies is what they're doing, these MBA dolts don't know what the market wants, and wouldn't be able to find out with a map and a native guide, lol.
Kommie
28-Feb(#37)It could be like fighting games where tons of content is locked behind DLC and skins.
longhornsk57
28-Feb(#42)maybe I don't really understand what a "live service" game is, but what about like fortnite or warzone etc, you are those considered live service and is there an issue with those?
Kommie
28-Feb(#43)Games like Fortnite and Warzone get a pass cause they're free to play games that are technically "live service". Then there's the bullcrap pay full msrp for "live service". The latter games tend to always fail.
Archer
* 28-Feb(#44)longhornsk57 wrote:> maybe I don't really understand what a "live service" game is, but what about like
> fortnite or warzone etc, you are those considered live service and is there an issue
> with those?
Those are live service games. But they are also free to play games. So people don't care about them nickle and dimming to make money. As its a free game. And those are purely cosmetic purchases. The issue people have is when you buy a $70 game, and it turns out to be a live service game that is constantly putting ads in your face to buy DLC. They then also seem to design the game around road blocks and frustrating the player in hopes they pay for the micro-transactions to make the game not so frustrating. Meaning they are not just cosmetic. They also seem to force ads on you more than f2p games do. There are two types of these games. Ones that are done correctly like Fortnite that people don't have a problem with. And then all the other crap we get like Destiny 2, Diablo 4, Overwatch and so many others.
longhornsk57
28-Feb(#45)Oh ok. I guess I don't really understand the Diablo 4 one because I bought that game and beat it and did a little end game and never bought anything extra.
Also some games like CoD cold war for instance has a battle pass, but the game was fine without it but you could get it for $10 and get cool guns and operators and stuff, I never had an issue with it.
I guess if it was pay to win or pay to get things that really should just be in the game I could see. But I see the point I mean I appreciate normal games like Persona 3R I'm playing now it's just a game no added BS or extra transactions etc
longhornsk57
28-Feb(#48)Archer wrote:> @longhornsk57 Diablo 4 intentionally slowed the players progress down, making the
> grind longer and harder. Then released the season battle passes that give you xp
> boosts and material boosts. Which then do not even bring you back up to what the
> game was initially like before seasons came out and they nerfed everything into the
> ground. Their entire game design is around making you play as long as possible in
> hopes you spend money on the battle pass and other cosmetics. Which is what people
> have a problem with.
>
> CoD I personally think also falls on the Fortnite side. You can't really buy things
> in CoD that I'm aware of to make it pay to win, or to give you a shortcut in game.
> Its just cosmetic stuff isn't it? I don't play CoD so I don't know and don't pay
> attention to it.
ya you're pretty much right about CoD. For D4 I think I just didn't play it enough to be effected by what you're saying but that definitely sounds pretty horrible and I would absolutely not support some BS like that.
PizzaTheHutt
29-Feb(#50)Finn wrote:> Pay to win I wish would just go away. I don't mind the cosmetic stuff though that
> is fine. $65 for a horse though in D4 is pretty stupid though. People that buy it
> have more money than brains. A stupid DLC cosmetic worth just as much or more than
> the game? So dumb.
I agree about pay-to-win, it needs to go away. You know what sucks about the cosmetic stuff, though? Back in my day kids were judged by their peers based on what brand of sneakers they were wearing to school, or if you had a Starter brand jacket or not. These days they're judged by what skins they own in Fortnite and whatever other free-to-play game that becomes the flavor of the week.
https://kotaku.com/study-fortnite-free-to-play-gam... longhornsk57
29-Feb(#51)I gotta admit honestly I'm considering downloading Fortnite just for the skins, especially when I saw they have crazy stuff like Goku, Patrick Mahomes, and all sorts of crazy things
kevolones
2-Mar(#54)Mendo wrote:> yoooooooo! Well it took a while but i finally got a ps5. Struggling finding my next
> game to play though.
>
> I played God of War, ratchet & clank and the Spiderman games. All epic but what do
> i try now? Is the playstation plus worth it?
I think the PS Extra would be worth it for you since youve barely played anything.
Bleed_DukeBlue
2-Mar(#56)I second that. It has a horde mechanic for the zombies that is really unique. Also, if you haven’t played The Last of Us Part I and II, the PS5 remasters are beautiful.
Heavyd814life wrote:> Days Gone. Underrated exclusive, imo.
>
>
justin_credible
* 2-Mar(#58)Didn't the Bend Studios owner lose his mind because Sony refuse to make a sequel? Something like that. I'm not sure if he quit or not, but I know they haven't made anything since or announced anything.
Bleed_DukeBlue
2-Mar(#59)Supposedly, they’re working on a new IP open world game.
justin_credible wrote:> Didn't the Bend Studios owner lose his mind because Sony refuse to make a sequel?
> Something like that. I'm not sure if he quit or not, but I know they haven't made
> anything since or announced anything.
bonham2
2-Mar(#61)Mendo wrote:> yoooooooo! Well it took a while but i finally got a ps5. Struggling finding my next
> game to play though.
>
> I played God of War, ratchet & clank and the Spiderman games. All epic but what do
> i try now? Is the playstation plus worth it?
Those are all solid. I'm currently playing through Hogwarts Legacy. Recently, I played Sifu. If you're into hard kung fu games, it's absolutely amazing. Astro's Playroom was pretty cool and it's free!. PS+ is definitely worth it if you like a variety of games. Sackboy, Returnal, Stray, and Kena are all available on there plus tons of other games. Horizon Forbidden West is on there. I loved the first one, but I can't get into the sequel for some reason.
Anxiouz
* 2-Mar(#62)For anyone just getting a PS5 I always recommend getting the middle tier of PS+ for 1-3 months. It's a great way to try some fantastic games in the catalog and either keep doing PS+ to play them, or find out which ones you like and go find them used and let PS+ expire.
bill
2-Mar(#63)PS+ Extra
I agree that it's especially good if you're just getting into ps4/ps5 games.
Once you've played them or bought them, it's less worth it.
My first year with it was great, but I've played everything I wanted from the catalog now and it's more of a wait-and-see what each month adds.
justin_credible
2-Mar(#66)MrBean wrote:> TalonJedi87 wrote:
>> Days Gone was great. Too bad it didn’t get much love commercially.
>
> I'd love to replay. Their launch screwed up the rep and sales, but it ended up being
> absolutely awesome.
PS5 remaster would be pretty cool. If they can do Until Dawn I don't see why they can't do Days Gone.
Headshot
2-Mar(#67)thinking about getting my first ps5 - free ps4 to ps5 game upgrades still a thing?
Anxiouz
3-Mar(#69)I don't have a problem paying $10 to upgrade a game. It's not free for these companies to make a last-gen game take advantage of current gen hardware. And it's completely optional.
Headshot
3-Mar(#70)i have searched for different lists - nothing seems to be fully up to date.
Anyone have a good source on the free or paid ps4 to ps5 upgrade games?
PS5 will be here Tuesday,
PizzaTheHutt
3-Mar(#72)Headshot wrote:> i have searched for different lists - nothing seems to be fully up to date.
>
> Anyone have a good source on the free or paid ps4 to ps5 upgrade games?
>
> PS5 will be here Tuesday,
I can't find a complete up-to-date list at the moment, but just know that for Sony's 1st party games, Horizon: Forbidden West in early 2022 was their last game to support the free PS4-to-PS5 upgrade. Any game they've released after that will charge $10 and any game released before that is still free.
DarkFact
4-Mar(#73)imageI was gonna wait for the PC port anyways, I'm not buying games until end of November this year, but after playing FF16 I knew this was coming after they said the next game was next gen exclusive, I was like oh boy. This won't scale well for performance mode. FF16 already looked pretty dumpy and it still couldn't even nail 60fps. I'm envious of people who are down playing action oriented titles at half refresh, I'm too spoiled this late in my life.
Finn
4-Mar(#75)PizzaTheHutt wrote:> Finn wrote:
>> Pay to win I wish would just go away. I don't mind the cosmetic stuff though that
>> is fine. $65 for a horse though in D4 is pretty stupid though. People that buy
> it
>> have more money than brains. A stupid DLC cosmetic worth just as much or more
> than
>> the game? So dumb.
>
>
> I agree about pay-to-win, it needs to go away. You know what sucks about the cosmetic
> stuff, though? Back in my day kids were judged by their peers based on what brand
> of sneakers they were wearing to school, or if you had a Starter brand jacket or
> not. These days they're judged by what skins they own in Fortnite and whatever other
> free-to-play game that becomes the flavor of the week.
>
Yep, and at least up here it was Mondetta shirts, Request jeans... lol
Finn
4-Mar(#76)Mendo wrote:> yoooooooo! Well it took a while but i finally got a ps5. Struggling finding my next
> game to play though.
>
> I played God of War, ratchet & clank and the Spiderman games. All epic but what do
> i try now? Is the playstation plus worth it?
Yeah, you can Go wrong with Horizon. If you have never played it then jump into the first then go IMMEDIATLEY into the 2nd! and get that DLC. It's exclusive to PS5 and man oh man is it great.
Last of us remastered is a good one also, if you never played or it's been awhile. Part two at least has a $10 upgrade if you already bought Last of Us 2. Gran Turismo 7 is a great racer if you are looking for one to add some variety to your library. Street Fighter 6 or any of the last two Mortal Combat games are good additions to have for fighters.
I was actually impressed with Mortal Combat 11... I like how the story was done as story modes in fighters, I find are usually toss in like a bad afterthought.
theJaw
5-Mar(#78)Helldivers 2 is very fun. I didn’t care about it but my pal talked me into it and it’s been a good time. Not nearly as obnoxious other games of the same style.
Google “helldivers Joel” and find some neat stuff out.
Bleed_DukeBlue
5-Mar(#80)Most people I’ve seen talk about it like it, so I hope you will too. To be honest, I love looter shooters, but I was really disappointed with Helldivers 2. I played it for a couple of hours and immediately sold it and the original Helldivers that was sitting on my shelf.
Finn wrote:> Who has been playing Hell Divers 2? I just got it yesterday but I need to Plat Prince
> of Persia and I decided to Plat Tales of the New Borderlands.. I said I was not going
> to because the two main characters in the game are so damn annoying but I am not
> sure what is worse.
>
> I plan on "Diving" into Hell Divers 2 next week for sure. Can't wait.