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Topic   Atomic Heart

MrBean
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1-Feb-2023(#1)
I've really been looking forward to this but just read an article that left me a bit worried.

https://www.pcgamer.com/atomic-heart-preview/

Really debating the limited edition (exclusive to their own website), yet didn't realize it's hitting game pass on day one.

Regardless, hope this delivers!
MrBean
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2-Feb-2023(#2)
Damn, what I do to deserve 3 negs? Am I behind on this chat elsewhere? Apologies if this was already discussed ... I get lost in the mega threads.
Slickriven
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20-Feb-2023(#3)
The reviews are finally dropping, ACG was a fan but pointed out a good number of issues. SkillUp was not a fan, enjoying parts but being off put by too much of it.
I'm torn, SU's criticisms felt impactful, the writing seems really bad and if I claimed to dislike the crummy lead in Forespoken then Atomic Heart's dude might land in the same boat. I'm also someone who really enjoys exploring and if I need to, killing all foes, but in the open world areas, SU basically says you can't. There are tons of cameras, repair drones will fix anything you destroy and shutting down the system that controls this isn't simple nor permanent. How he defined it gave me nightmare reminders of the utter crap system that was in Far Cry 2. SU also pointed out that lots of enemies were bullet sponges, not an aspect I like much.
It looks awesome, both technically but also conceptually and I don't agree with SU's complaints about lacking cohesion b/c that doesn't really matter to me. AGC had praise for the music and I enjoy that in games often, so I want to play it but might wait for some patches or just do it on easy.
I'm trying to get through the most recent Jedi game, so maybe I'll just keep focused on that for a while.

ued222
Triple Gold Good Trader
20-Feb-2023(#4)
I watched the lets play and the game has a massive amount of bugs. I get it free on Gamepass so I'll give it a shot but it seems like crap. The combat seems terrible, the story and characters are questionable. Hopefully I will enjoy it else wise Kirby and Scar's Above might be my only real hope at decent February 2023 releases.
Slickriven
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20-Feb-2023(#5)
I read a review from Hardcore Gamer and they were positive on it, 4.5/5 score. I got the sense that it greatly depends on what your expectations are going in. If your thinking this is a new Prey or BioShock both gameplay and visually, then I think gameplay you'll not be happy but looks you will. Hardcore said that the story/main character wasn't great but they just really enjoyed the atmosphere and gunplay.
I'm surely going to try it out, eventually. Might wait till maybe April and some patches, plus I want to finish Jedi Fallen Order and think I'm only around 1/3+ through that.

Feeb
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20-Feb-2023(#6)
Yikes. These guys even grind the MH crowns.

https://twitter.com/raymondtracing/status/16275943...
nonamesleft
Double Gold Good Trader
20-Feb-2023(#7)
Friend of mine was looking forward to this one. Just realized the release date is tomorrow.
Feeb
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20-Feb-2023(#8)
Lots of politics involved. Gotta try it and block the noise.
ued222
Triple Gold Good Trader
21-Feb-2023(#9)
Feeb wrote:
> Lots of politics involved. Gotta try it and block the noise.
The radio section where the main mentions that and later sections.

I think I prefer Prey, thank god for gamepass. The first robots were easy enough but picking up items by holding the trigger is a pain. The shooting and melee combat were also bad. I was hoping it would get better which it does but not by enough to justify playing it more. Waiting for Kirby now.
MrBean
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21-Feb-2023(#10)
Installing now. It seems worthwhile to at least check out now, especially being on GP.
Noid
Double Gold Good Trader
21-Feb-2023(#11)
MrBean wrote:
> Damn, what I do to deserve 3 negs?

While I legitimately love this site and it's members, there're a small minority that just looove to drop a silent neg for no apparent reason. broken heart
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
21-Feb-2023(#12)
Feeb wrote:
> Lots of politics involved. Gotta try it and block the noise.

I haven’t followed this game at all. What’s the scoop with that?
benstylus
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21-Feb-2023(#13)
Shane12m wrote:
> Feeb wrote:
>> Lots of politics involved. Gotta try it and block the noise.
>
> I haven’t followed this game at all. What’s the scoop with that?

Short answer: Russia

Long answer
https://www.pcgamer.com/why-are-people-arguing-abo...

Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
21-Feb-2023(#14)
benstylus wrote:
> Shane12m wrote:
>> Feeb wrote:
> |>> Lots of politics involved. Gotta try it and block the noise.
>>
>> I haven’t followed this game at all. What’s the scoop with that?
>
> Short answer: Russia
>
> Long answer
>
>

That was a good read, thanks
Yoshi
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21-Feb-2023(#15)
benstylus wrote:
> Shane12m wrote:
>> Feeb wrote:
> |>> Lots of politics involved. Gotta try it and block the noise.
>>
>> I haven’t followed this game at all. What’s the scoop with that?
>
> Short answer: Russia
>
> Long answer
>
>
Why am I not surprised that PC Gamer quickly moved on from any potential issues caused by Tencent's funding?
Simon_Belmont
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21-Feb-2023(#16)
Put about 3 hours into it. I'm loving it. Scratching all the little Bioshock/Prey itches I've been having. Super gorgeous game, great soundtrack, amazing setting like nothing else out there.
The complaints people are having seem pretty convoluted.
The lip sync issue is that the game was coded/recorded in Russian and then other languages were added. If you switch the game to Russian with subtitles, everything syncs perfectly.
The difficulty isn't too bad. Start the game on easy then move up to challenging.
Yes, the intro is nearly a half hour long. It's worth it and very gorgeous. Stick with it.
I feel like people want to complain for the sake of complaining these days.
I want to call out of work tomorrow and play this all day.
benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
* 21-Feb-2023(#17)
Yoshi wrote:
> benstylus wrote:
>> Shane12m wrote:
> |>> Feeb wrote:
>> |>> Lots of politics involved. Gotta try it and block the noise.
> |>>
> |>> I haven’t followed this game at all. What’s the scoop with that?
>>
>> Short answer: Russia
>>
>> Long answer
>>
>>
> Why am I not surprised that PC Gamer quickly moved on from any potential issues caused
> by Tencent's funding?

It's not what this story was about, but right in thr article it says:

"The takeaway from this probably isn't that Atomic Heart shouldn't be criticised, but that far more games should be."

Although if everyone boycotted every company that does bad things or has any ties to any person or country that did or does bad things, there would be nothing left. People pick their battles.

All three of the big console manufacturers would be gone. Windows PCs wouldn't exist, Android devices would be gone, Apple would have gone the way of the Pippin. All sports leagues and most sports teams would disappear. Board games would be pretty mudh wiped out. And let's not even get started on Hollywood.

The only thing we would have left is Levar Burton and Reading Rainbow.


Slickriven
GameTZ Subscriber Double Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
22-Feb-2023(#18)
Simon_Belmont wrote:
> I feel like people want to complain for the sake of complaining these days.

Yes, 1000 times yes. Today's keyboard warriors just love to dog. Can it stop now? Everybody seemingly has an opinion and they want us all to know and care about that opinion.

@benstylus So what you're essentially saying is that boycotting companies for some bad things or ties to a person or country is dumb - so like the whole cancel culture that's vomited all over society for the past handful of years? If so, then yes, please let's end that crap.
If Atomic Heart is good and you enjoy it fine, it doesn't have to be an endorsement of anything but the people who made the game. Similar with that Hogwarts game, but whatever I didn't really want to get into a cultural discussion on here...
Haha about that article in which it references The Good Place TV show. Kinda shady that they don't really say much about Tencent and the CCP ties, or that buying just about anything on Amazon with so much of that coming from China

benstylus
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* 22-Feb-2023(#19)
Slickriven wrote:
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> @benstylus So what you're essentially saying is that boycotting companies for some
> bad things or ties to a person or country is dumb - so like the whole cancel culture
> that's vomited all over society for the past handful of years? If so, then yes, please
> let's end that crap.

No, I'm just saying you have to pick your battles.

Russia is an easy one for people to fixate on right now because they are in the news and actively trying to invade and take over an internationally recognized sovereign country in a time when that sort of thing is heavily frowned upon, to put it mildly.

China is a harder boogeyman to boycott simply because so much of our way of life depends of the cheap labor we get from making things there. People talk about decoupling our economy from that and bringing back good manufacturing jobs to the US, but good jobs equals good wages equals much higher prices than we are used to, and Wal-Mart (another common boogeyman) has proven that the bottom line is the most important thing for a lot of people. Was recently watching a kickstarter board game offering "made in America" as a selling point. It was floundering because the cost was quite high - $90 for the base game. They canceled the project after a week or so, took a poll as to what people wanted from a relaunch, and the vote loud and clear was lower prices, even though the poll specifically said that meant production in China. They relaunched yesterday with a $65 base game price, and they have already funded. So much for boycotting China over human rights abuses if it means your game costs 40% more.

As for the so-called cancel culture of individuals, I'm less concerned about the public shaming for horrible and overtly racist/hateful/violent behavior (for example, flying into a rage when you are in Chinatown because a random person there is ethnically Chinese, telling your black server at Olive Garden to get the manager so you can demand a white server, or telling someone to "go back to your own country"), and more concerned about trying to get people fired over stuff like religious beliefs about gender and sexuality (Again, as long as those beliefs don't move into the hateful/violent part of the spectrum.)

Calling people out is 100% ok when done to politicians. It's their job to represent the people, so when they are failing to represent you, they need to be told.

I'm against the more extreme methods like doxxing, swatting, etc. That falls into an additional category of "violent, but I want to let others do the actual violence because I'm safer here behind the anonymity of my computer."

I guess the TLDR version is that on some level everyone is a hypocrite who tells themself whatever they need to hear to sleep at night.

Simon_Belmont
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23-Feb-2023(#20)
So far the only thing that's bugging me with Atomic Heart are the save points which are few and far between. I've replaying a lot of segments when I get killed in a stupid way.
Slickriven
GameTZ Subscriber Double Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
23-Feb-2023(#21)
I read a headline saying that console versions were having a bug preventing completing the tutorial. I haven't jumped into this yet but has anyone had that issue?

Simon_Belmont
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23-Feb-2023(#22)
Not at all. The "tutorial" is gorgeous. It's more of an interactive cutscene than anything.
Archer
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1-Mar-2023(#23)
I downloaded this with gamepass. I got about 15-20 minutes and shut it off, uninstalled it. I could not get past the dialogue, it is fudging horrific and makes me hate the game. I can't get past it. I didn't even really get into the combat. I just couldn't get past how terrible the main character is. The voice acting is awful. No sense of delivery or inflection, timing emotion. He just read everything as fast and as flat as he could. Horrible. The writing of the dialogue is bad as well. Its just so terrible. Everything about it is awful. Oh and the control setup is a mind boggling as well. Double hit a button and then hold to do something. WTF is that?
Simon_Belmont
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1-Mar-2023(#24)
You didn't even play the game. The intro is nearly a hour long. Controls are fine. The voice acting is bad because it's a RUSSIAN DEVELOPED GAME MADE IN RUSSIA as said by myself and others. Put the game on Russian language, put English subtitles on and everything lines up. I did the same thing with all the Metro games.
I've put 8 hours into Atomic Heart and I'm loving it.
I snagged Midnight Suns for $28 so I'm bopping back and forth.

Topic   Atomic Heart