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Topic   Limited Run Games..er scammers.

sa330206
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31-Jan(#1)
As most people know, Limited Run Games doesn't have a good reputation. Between very slow shipping, lack of updates, milking gamers for every penny, high shipping costs, etc. The list goes on. Anyway, I have always defended them. I thought it was cool they produced games that may have never got a physical release. After my most recent interaction, I can no longer support them.

A few months ago, they mailed out 5% off coupons with certain customers orders as a "thank you for waiting so long for these games." Ok, 5% off is pretty pathetic but fine I'll take it. I placed my first order in about a year this past Friday but the coupon they sent me wouldn't work. It kept saying it was invalid. I knew that games can often sell out fast so I placed the order and emailed customer service. Any normal company would just give me the 5% off and I would move on. However, LRG came out swinging. They told me I needed to cancel my whole order and "try again" with the coupon. I explained to them that isn't possible because items have already sold out and the whole reason I contacted them is because the coupon didnt work. I explained to them I was sent a 5% off coupon for being a loyal customer and would appreciate if they could just credit me. They refused and said again, I need to cancel and reorder (not possible).

I then came back and asked if they would rather lose a customer of over 8 years who has spent $1000's of dollars over a 5% off coupon (that they mailed me mind you)? This was their response.

"Since you are unwilling to perform the only solution we can make, there is nothing further we can assist you with.

I am sorry, but that is the final word on the matter. If you do decide you would rather not purchase from us in the future, then I wish you well in your future gaming endeavors."

So long story short, LRG is a crap company who has no idea what customer service means. Why would you mail out invalid coupons and then not honor them? Any other company would just make it right and move on. LRG deserves all the crap they get as they truly are a terrible company. Just sharing my experience in hopes that others don't make my mistake and order from them again. They are giving Gamestop a good run as the most terrible gaming company in the world.
SSA
Bronze Good Trader
31-Jan(#2)
ITT: Leopards ate my face
Kommie
250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
31-Jan(#3)
5%.
Feeb
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31-Jan(#4)
LRG has always been an investment. You give them money- eventually they’ll commit to giving you a game- a game that is no longer a limited run, not usually exclusive to them and often does already exist as a physical media. The FOMO zeitgeist sort of came and went across the board. CEs, LRG, every over priced physical/ collector piece has been done to death. Ironically you lose money as soon as you press buy.

But hey, they do sometimes print a shmup with a little more English than the ones I could get somewhere else for a decade or so.
sa330206
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31-Jan(#5)
Kommie wrote:
> 5%.

Totally pointless amount, I agree. I'm mad based on the principle that they mailed out coupons that don't work and refuse to honor them. I know I'm not a one off as I have seen others have issues with these coupons not working.
nonamesleft
Double Gold Good Trader
31-Jan(#6)
They do sometimes make games that I'm interested in playing though. There was a game called Bug Fables that I heard great things about. Supposedly similar to Paper Mario. If you prefer physical over digital, and it's exclusive to lrg, then why not?
Feeb
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* 31-Jan(#7)
nonamesleft wrote:
> They do sometimes make games that I'm interested in playing though. There was a game
> called Bug Fables that I heard great things about. Supposedly similar to Paper Mario.
> If you prefer physical over digital, and it's exclusive to lrg, then why not?

That’s exactly how they expect consumers to think. At one time, it was actually like that- you’d get a limited physical release that wasn’t available anywhere else. Now they have month long pre order windows and titles you can buy at brick and mortor etc. They’ve ridden the FOMO wave all the way to being a rote distributor of near shovelware. Good for them, it got bigger than they ever expected, but their initial, publicly stated mission does not exist anymore. They’ve also sold to embracer group so I’m sure they are trying to keep the facade of being the two good ole boys who just wanted to publish their digital games.
Missile

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31-Jan(#8)
Why would they give a single crap about their customer's loyalty when their scheme from Game 1 was taking any old piece of crap(See: Breach & Clear, Saturday Morning RPG, Octodad, Kemco RPGs, etc, et al) printing a thousand or so copies and making profit off the FOMO. They don't need you at all. You, however, are entirely dependent on them, and will be for the foreseeable future if you want that 400+ playstation 4 shovelware collection to still be complete.
Feeb
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31-Jan(#9)
Missile wrote:
> Why would they give a single crap about their customer's loyalty when their scheme
> from Game 1 was taking any old piece of crap(See: Breach & Clear, Saturday Morning
> RPG, Octodad, Kemco RPGs, etc, et al) printing a thousand or so copies and making
> profit off the FOMO. They don't need you at all. You, however, are entirely dependent
> on them, and will be for the foreseeable future if you want that 400+ playstation
> 4 shovelware collection to still be complete.

They were initially releasing their own stuff from Mighty Rabbit Studios- that’s why it was junk- but they sold out of the 1500? Or so copies in like 100 minutes. So they decided it was a good time to promise a whole bunch of crap and get pre paid for it. Initially it felt like a Ponzi scheme of some sort- and then it felt worse as they sold batches of hundreds of titles and took sometimes a year or more to ship them. I remember arguing with them about how shady it felt on CAG back then. Josh always said “we can’t afford to do this if we don’t take your money and spend a year getting it done…”

Yeah ok, that’s basically a shovelware kickstarter. But I’m bitter so bleh
benstylus
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31-Jan(#10)
I've purchased some books from them. The month long wait for shipping on a book that was listed as "in stock" was quite lame but if they're the only outlet selling it, you gotta either bite the towel or walk away.

sa330206
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* 31-Jan(#11)
Doug, one of the original founders of LRG is a good dude. He regularly posted on the CAG forums for a while. I know he no longer works at LRG since shortly after the embracer group bought them.

I am really just shocked at their lack of concern for brand imagine. They mail out coupons that don't work and instead of just crediting me $10, they would rather be nasty and lose a customer that has literally spend thousands of dollars since the beginning. The whole point of the coupon was to generate some goodwill (thanks for waiting a year on your games), yet they have even managed to mess that up. Any normal business would just admit the mistake, say sorry, and make it right.
nonamesleft
Double Gold Good Trader
* 31-Jan(#12)
I think Castlevania Advance Collection was an exclusive LRG release. That's a pretty cool game to have a cartridge of.

But coolness aside, it is sad when customers don't receive good customer service. Good customer service/good people skills should perhaps be the #1 rule of someone in that role.
thenadz
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31-Jan(#13)
LRG is trash and has always been trash, they exist only to milk gamers who like physical games and suffer from
FOMO. They’re very consumer-unfriendly so this doesn’t surprise me at all, I just wait for their crap to be clearanced at Best Buy if it’s a game I care about , or just ignore them altogether
sailorneorune
GameTZ Subscriber Quadruple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (7) Has Written 3 Reviews
31-Jan(#14)
reads thread

hopes Sparkster plushie doesn’t turn into vaporware

Feeb
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31-Jan(#15)
They usually get your stuff to you. It may take- no joke- over a year.
Slickriven
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1-Feb(#16)
sa330206 wrote:
> ... since shortly after the embracer group bought them.
>

This is all you had to say. That group is horrible and has laid off SO MANY devs since their shady azz Saudi oil blood money $2bil deal fell through - seriously F those folks...

Also 5% doesn't even cover the tax in my state, I fell your grift, but 5% is a joke discount.

Renaissance2K
GameTZ Subscriber Quadruple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
1-Feb(#17)
sa330206 wrote:
> I am really just shocked at their lack of concern for brand image.

They don't have the market cornered, but their customer base is made up people who think they do. If you want something badly enough and don't have any other options, you'll put up with a lot of bullcrap. Good on you for not falling for it.

sailorneorune
GameTZ Subscriber Quadruple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (7) Has Written 3 Reviews
1-Feb(#18)
Y'all are really making me wish I would have just waited for an eShop sale and that Fangamer made the plushie.

Best1989
Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Peru
1-Feb(#19)
You will be ok. Just forget about it and you will get it eventually.
synthetic1
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
2-Feb(#20)
Yep. I’ve been going for a full Xbox set since they started doing Xbox finally and this company is a freaking mess. The one saving grace is that their final products are actually good. But I’ve waited on average 1-2 years (literally) for everything I’ve ordered. Their customer service is non existent, their tracking system is a joke, and every so often they send out a “we hear you, we’re going to improve” type message and then nothing changes.

I can deal with this to a degree but I’m close to just saying fudge it. I had such high hopes when they announced Xbox games. I thought stuff like Celeste, Katana Zero, Cyber Shadow, etc would maybe get releases. Instead they’ve released like 2-3 actual hits (River City Girls 2, CV Advance collection) and the rest was either VERY old ports or just outright shovelware. It blows my mind that they operate the way they do.
Feeb
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2-Feb(#21)
When they started doing switch they basically started all over with the previous vita / ps4 release schedule. I’m sure they’ll do something of the sort with Xbox- a ton of already released volume they can sell through.
citizen_zane
GameTZ Subscriber Quadruple Gold Good Trader
27-Feb(#22)
I pre-ordered this back in June of 2022:

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I know these started getting shipped at least 8 months ago (probably longer), so back in October, I asked LRG about my order and they said the following:

"has yet to ship and is still at our location. Rest assured that once this order ships you will receive a shipping confirmation email with the tracking details included. Sadly, I am unable to provide a shipping estimate as our claims department can not see where in the queue a particular order is. While our shipping department is working through a higher-than-average volume, rest assured that your order is on the fastest track available."


Fine. So I've been waiting and waiting and still nothing, not a peep. So earlier this month, I reached out to them again. The response was a lot better than the first one:

"Looking at that order, it appears that it is in the active shipping queue and is expected to ship out shortly. You should receive a shipping confirmation with your tracking information once your order ships, so feel free to keep an eye out for that email in the near future. We appreciate your patience.

While we expect your order should ship out within the next 1-2 weeks, if your order has not shipped out within the next two weeks, please send us an update and we'll be happy to look further into this issue for you."


About a week later, I'm given a UPS tracking number, but all it said was that the label had been created, but not yet shipped. No, that didn't happen until February 26th, which is two weeks after it was printed!

UPS has it, but it looks like it may delayed there for a day "due to operating conditions," but at least it's on the way.

benstylus
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27-Feb(#23)
citizen_zane wrote:
> UPS has it, but it looks like it may delayed there for a day "due to operating conditions,"
> but at least it's on the way.

That's a secret agreement between UPS and LRG to delay it one final time before it finally gets to you.

citizen_zane
GameTZ Subscriber Quadruple Gold Good Trader
27-Feb(#24)
benstylus wrote:
> citizen_zane wrote:
>> UPS has it, but it looks like it may delayed there for a day "due to operating
> conditions,"
>> but at least it's on the way.
>
> That's a secret agreement between UPS and LRG to delay it one final time before it
> finally gets to you.
>
>

laughing out loud That wouldn't surpise me. I'm not really happy about it being sent UPS, only because I used to load trucks for them long ago. I go to see how the sausage was made, so to speak.

nonamesleft
Double Gold Good Trader
27-Feb(#25)
benstylus wrote:
> citizen_zane wrote:
>> UPS has it, but it looks like it may delayed there for a day "due to operating
> conditions,"
>> but at least it's on the way.
>
> That's a secret agreement between UPS and LRG to delay it one final time before it
> finally gets to you.
>
>
Ha.
flamingtoastjpn
Silver Good Trader
28-Feb(#26)
I ordered their very first release (Breach & Clear for the Vita, which I sold on here at some point).

I think they had a fine business model for obscure games that never would’ve seen the light of day otherwise. Sort of like what Working Designs used to do.

Whatever their business is now, makes no sense to me
synthetic1
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
* 28-Feb(#27)
My oldest open order just hit 1 year (D for the 3DO, 2/25/23) but I think my record was around 18 months for the Scott Pilgrim KO Edition so I might be waiting awhile still. My Maniac Mansion Special Edition is close to a year now too and I don’t anticipate that anytime soon.
tarzanpat
Gold Good Trader Canada
28-Feb(#28)
A scam is usually perforated by a person or people in stripes of communism thinking. society seems to display all sorts, and you want to be the capitalist. You only start to want because it's getting you to what you need. Otherwise you'd still be panelled in a lecture going, when does life begin?

In this instance, they gave you something they didn't honour. Did they do a background check? They are simply thinking you'll purchase again with the coupon when it didn't work. Companies with small people working, are the enterprise of all that's wrong with the system. If you have a valid complaint, take it find the people that are in charge of the business and directly send them a message.

Though I sent a message to lids, but I guess they're not the ppl for it. Thinking of basketball net mesh in hats and toques, or even the mesh and starting rosters of teams. Or just a commemorative mesh that in between the meshing has highlights of the teams greatest plays or whatever. Shoulda sent it to the nba, I'm like will they not give a gift card for an idea? Buggers. They're cringy and don't want to do anything apart from what is. You get programmed robots in this life, and not real people engineering a future and taking life along. Where are the real scenes?,where is an open mic Woodstock pre-celebration for the music? What's up with this world anyways? LOL
benstylus
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28-Feb(#29)
tarzanpat wrote:
> toques

Spoken like a true Canadian.



tarzanpat
Gold Good Trader Canada
28-Feb(#30)
benstylus wrote:
> tarzanpat wrote:
>> toques
>
> Spoken like a true Canadian.
>
>
>
>

The Toucan is the king bird. Can't always brim when you've got a skim dream. Something has to drive you. Apart from that, it's all a reaction. Where's the world of action-to-action. In everything, interactive and operational. No I don't think we need more tools. Maybe just a better grip, over at least ourselves, and not to not get a lip or a R.I.P, but to drip out our souls of sweat and break the skin like paint and aura on. We gotta go on up, roll with the times, become what we've always been no matter how this world is programmed and therapeutics you through hard times of work or ripping off your will. Back to the drawing board. What are we going to do? Sketch? Compose? In this world, maybe just forget the arts, and get to the engineerment of selling out time for a craft you've skilled to the diametric of your narrowing of space, time and matter. We can all be amused with all the small things. Forget the big. We can all objectify and put objects first. We can all be put to the subjective and fling ourselves with the people, but usually, there's no reaction. Was it always that our energies needed such space - probably, but we were simulated in deeper dreams - in a world of dreams, you can keep your dreams to live them out. Or you can sell out and do yourself an unjustice of a chore. And still probably fail. Probably ain't ever good enough. You ready to fly?
Feeb
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28-Feb(#31)
Drug TZ. WTF is happening.
nonamesleft
Double Gold Good Trader
28-Feb(#32)
Feeb wrote:
> Drug TZ. WTF is happening.
laughing out loud
tarzanpat
Gold Good Trader Canada
28-Feb(#33)
Feeb wrote:
> Drug TZ. WTF is happening.

Weed is not a drug. The girl that gave me $100 as I was singing and dancing, said it's not to be used for drugs. I said, I prob will use it on weed, so...she stopped me and said weed is not a drug. Yeah, I look rough. Gotta shave my beard. Y'all be slow. Room and food is not a luxury. You were in that club from the start haha

Weed is the excess of the universe, derived in a process, probably trying to get tainted by the propaganda of the media. There's gotta be a way to break through, but as it seems you can't comprehend free thought, you might as well be a machine. Don't smoke weed, it'll slow us all down
Feeb
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28-Feb(#34)
If it was 100$ worth she should have gave it to you at a bargain 120$ shipped.
tarzanpat
Gold Good Trader Canada
28-Feb(#35)
Now this is clowning around that makes no sense. I guess we gotta promote and provoke the future. No time limits, no express lanes by not missing out on life and I'm not talking about driving or shopping lol, and no real limits of mind to comprehend what should and would be possible if we didn't start off with sleep and end with sleep, dream than trip, than reach a future outside of fate and destiny that still isn't crashing our illusions together. It's a simple life, yes, but it's also an outcast or a castaway premise. You never see and hear the right things, so all you have is your fuel. Sure your brain picks up so much more, like the skull to the rest of this skeleton is only there to keep you warped a couple of chapters behind with the words you use and thoughts you have, than the breath transmissioning through you. Weed is meditation, it guides you to reach those brain levels, so you never get lost. Sure you can think you don't care much for money, but if the excess and point of success is as simple as promoting the excess of the former universe before envelopment and non-stop development. It's as simple as smoking a joint. It's still worth what a dime is, and you get it at a bargain blind. Money, you choose, you lose, you make points and moves, you're on a board in a show that's a game coding you into a commercial walking talkie signal. Evolution is real but stunted. It's full completion and rendition is only promoted when it's complete. This world is a bargain bin of fuses verses and illusions trying to plethora it into a dead mainstream. If you're only in it to take, you're a pure consumer. Never to fit to your own fancy. If you're in it to give, you still take, but it's like shake, gets you through. What's thorough is that people renditioned like a middle-classed all-star are all hipsters with attitudes, and haven't grown out of their pimples sitting on their asses still. It's the life that affixes the gaze to the loathsome, the ugly and the useless bad. Get in with the real, or get shuffled and cast out. It's a one way play, on a multi-forked prong of roads. You're in a box, even with picture in picture, you're still in cubix to the outfit of the universe. No one does nothing, everyone furthers something. Those that work, make engine noise for the real ones trying for the final straw. Where are we on this game plan, and where has your wisdom merlined you through looking at time through the constraints of being still. We can't own up by being a statue. You can't come to life and say the same stories. Every day has to be fresh. Do you think the real ones would take the time to do things over and over like the people in line trying to get through now with the rewind not press play and let's Fast Forward this, or Fire Fuse it. FF! Not final fantasy. Get a real reality, stop incubating through dormancy
Feeb
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* 28-Feb(#36)
Drink lots of water.

The Lazy Man's Guide to Enlightenment https://a.co/d/ibh5kjr
benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
29-Feb(#37)
tarzanpat wrote:
> no one is reading this

Please continue this conversation in another thread, it has absolutely nothing to do with LRG

Porksta
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29-Feb(#38)
I was listening to a podcast and the guy mentioned he had saved up enough of those reward tickets for a free game. He chose to get Galf for free. LRG responded to him that he could not select that game as it was "too limited". Well yeah, that's why he selected it lol.
Feeb
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29-Feb(#39)
Porksta wrote:
> I was listening to a podcast and the guy mentioned he had saved up enough of those
> reward tickets for a free game. He chose to get Galf for free. LRG responded to
> him that he could not select that game as it was "too limited". Well yeah, that's
> why he selected it lol.

They basically told me to throw all of mine away because I tried to redeem them too late. Yeah it takes as long as it takes to collect them. Ok.
citizen_zane
GameTZ Subscriber Quadruple Gold Good Trader
29-Feb(#40)
The package finally arrived yesterday. I was starting to worry there for a minute.

tarzanpat
Gold Good Trader Canada
* 29-Feb(#41)
benstylus wrote:
> tarzanpat wrote:
>> no one is reading this
>
> Please continue this conversation in another thread, it has absolutely nothing to
> do with LRG
>
>

Will stop. Just wanted to say, my mention of final fantasy, only saw one intro of an electric prison until they become marvelled so to speak or some inception moves them on higher lol. The fighting scenes, just as lame as real fighting. Like the guy today that wanted to fight Reeves, not gonna happen.

Not going to interfere with random convo in another game topic for a while lol. Take care all!

Edit: Guess I meant to say, if you're thinking about the last day, even if it's liberation, you're missing out on today...some of my points are lost, but there is some wisdom in my high cased semantics...sometimes. Ok, I can live with that lol
nonamesleft
Double Gold Good Trader
* 29-Feb(#42)
@tarzanpat Just be you, don't worry about it. I think some people here just weren't expecting content unrelated to this thread.
nonamesleft
Double Gold Good Trader
* 29-Feb(#43)
Regarding Limited Run Games, there's something I don't understand. It sounds to me like the biggest issue is the long wait time for purchases. But isn't that a given thing for things like pre-orders, especially those that are fan funded?

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't either want to wait ages for a game I purchase, but maybe that's a prerequisite when ordering from LRG.
benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
1-Mar(#44)
nonamesleft wrote:
> Regarding Limited Run Games, there's something I don't understand. It sounds to me
> like the biggest issue is the long wait time for purchases. But isn't that a given
> thing for things like pre-orders, especially those that are fan funded?

My most recent order from them was the SG-1000 Works book they had advertised as in stock.

Jeremy Parish also posted a video from their warehouse to show off the book. So they definitely had them.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hFrMx-vSkQA

It took a month and two follow up emails from me for LRG to ship an in-stock item.

nonamesleft
Double Gold Good Trader
1-Mar(#45)
benstylus wrote:
> nonamesleft wrote:
>> Regarding Limited Run Games, there's something I don't understand. It sounds to
> me
>> like the biggest issue is the long wait time for purchases. But isn't that a given
>> thing for things like pre-orders, especially those that are fan funded?
>
> My most recent order from them was the SG-1000 Works book they had advertised as
> in stock.
>
> Jeremy Parish also posted a video from their warehouse to show off the book. So
> they definitely had them.
>
> It took a month and two follow up emails from me for LRG to ship an in-stock item.
>
>
>
A month to ship? Hmmmm. Yeah, that's too long for supposedly in stock items.
benstylus
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1-Mar(#46)
nonamesleft wrote:
> A month to ship? Hmmmm. Yeah, that's too long for supposedly in stock items.

Plus two followup emails. One after two weeks, and another a week after that.

The third followup email, had it been needed, would have come from my credit card company's dispute resolution department.

benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
1-Mar(#47)
They are living dangerously by being located in NC with their poor customer service.

Hopefully they get their act together and don't become the next BuyRite.

tarzanpat
Gold Good Trader Canada
1-Mar(#48)
nonamesleft wrote:
> @tarzanpat Just be you, don't worry about it. I think some people here just weren't
> expecting content unrelated to this thread.

Hey, yeah. Had a dif phase, where I think too much from everything laying dormant that still wasn't making too much sense in my head, came out in my outdoor settings. Much more chill, and smoking dispensary weed again, not the native dispensary weed. Not that much dif, but the first is kinda more chill. Feel fresher smoking it.

Sorry for all the bs, seems I stepped in without thinking of the crowd and did my own thing. Been doing too much of that recently. Anyways, didn't mean anything about the games, I kinda still enjoy them without playing on a side hobby of buying when I see a good deal. As to its correlation to this world, I think we all are what the make up of life here is. That being said, some people panel in differently. We've all done similar things, maybe I just go for runs, or seems like binges. With my drinking, then gaming even, to partying, to staying in, to getting high. Gotta find a more enjoyable pace that works with how I'm feeling, not quite breathing, but something similar. Anyways, feel better, that's all that makes anything worthwhile. Time to ascend to the highest pinnacle, and then wait for liftoff HaHa. Take care gametzers

Topic   Limited Run Games..er scammers.